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It's kind of remarkable Firestar didn't get relegated to the occasional fanservice cameo ala Japanese Spider-Man. Someone at Marvel really loved Amazing Friends.
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WickedHate posted:It's kind of remarkable Firestar didn't get relegated to the occasional fanservice cameo ala Japanese Spider-Man. Someone at Marvel really loved Amazing Friends. At the time of the creation of New Warriors they didn't really have all that many teen heroes other than the New Mutants. And even Firestar was scraping the bottom of the barrel. Firestar sucks in case anyone was unaware.
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Nov 7, 2016 00:39
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Bendis had the Amazing Friends thing going with Bobby and Johnny at the time, so I think that's the reason he chose Firestar for Liz.
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Nov 7, 2016 00:45
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Aphrodite posted:Bendis had the Amazing Friends thing going with Bobby and Johnny at the time, so I think that's the reason he chose Firestar for Liz. Liz Firestar is even worse.
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Nov 7, 2016 00:50
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Only if you read non-Spidey Ultimate stuff, and that's your own fault. In Spidey she just disappears forever.
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Nov 7, 2016 00:51
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The arc where Liz becoming Firestar had the scene where Kong revealed he knew Parker was Spider Man for pretty much the whole time, and that scene owned.
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Nov 7, 2016 01:00
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just came from Dr.strange. great climax
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Nov 7, 2016 01:26
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I would not be surprised if Infinity War isn't the most expensive movie ever made or something else like that. Thing is, people love these characters, and will go just to see them hanging out. Something that did bother me about Doctor Strange is how much the music sounds like Star Trek, I mean it's the same coposer, but it's like Aliens and Wrath of Khan, same composer and the music sounds really similar.
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Nov 7, 2016 01:32
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Race Realists posted:just came from Dr.strange. You or the movie?
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Nov 7, 2016 01:38
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Rhyno posted:Firestar sucks in case anyone was unaware. Sure but her origin story is one of the most amazing Emma Frost stories ever! She blows up a horse because Emma loving Frost takes gas-lighting seriously.
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Nov 7, 2016 02:43
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twistedmentat posted:Something that did bother me about Doctor Strange is how much the music sounds like Star Trek, I mean it's the same coposer, but it's like Aliens and Wrath of Khan, same composer and the music sounds really similar. Has the Every Frame a Painting bit on Marvel music been linked in this thread yet? Some interesting stuff about temp music.
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Nov 7, 2016 04:00
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WickedHate posted:It's kind of remarkable Firestar didn't get relegated to the occasional fanservice cameo ala Japanese Spider-Man. Someone at Marvel really loved Amazing Friends. Jason Aaron had her in Amazing X-Men. There was an Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends issue written by someone else.
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Nov 7, 2016 04:04
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I also just saw Doctor Strange and I liked it quite a bit. I agree with the people that say that it doesn't do anything new, but it does it well and with style so it gets extra points.
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Nov 7, 2016 04:46
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Lobok posted:You or the movie? Exactly what I questioned too after reading that post. We're in the gutter!
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Nov 7, 2016 04:48
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Saw a funny tweet, the gist of which was : I love this story. Powerful arrogant man knocked down. Becomes more powerful, still arrogant.
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Nov 7, 2016 04:51
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Retro Futurist posted:If they want to focus on team ups and such I think it'd be more likely to have Blade in Dr.Strange 2 or something along those lines. Well, then we just need the Marvel equivalent of The Alchemist and I can have my live action "Order of the Triad" spin-off.
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Nov 7, 2016 04:58
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Whenever I read Dr. Strange he will always sound like Dr. Orpheus in my head.
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Nov 7, 2016 05:17
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ub posted:Has the Every Frame a Painting bit on Marvel music been linked in this thread yet? Some interesting stuff about temp music. This is kind of an ongoing trend with a lot of movies, though, isn't it? Really iconic driving themes seem to be out of favor, even though people still know and recognize classic stuff like Star Wars James Bond etc Same thing with games. Generically "cinematic" audio filler in lieu of anything with a personality. It's so bad that when Wonder Woman's weird Amazon screeching choir jungle music kicked in during Batman VS Superman I was like "OH poo poo" edit: sheeeit they said it in the video too
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OnimaruXLR posted:This is kind of an ongoing trend with a lot of movies, though, isn't it? Really iconic driving themes seem to be out of favor, even though people still know and recognize classic stuff like Star Wars James Bond etc I think the Marvel movies often have good themes (Avengers, Iron Man 1, Iron Man Three, Ant Man are all fun), it's just outside of that they're a bit dull. Also not mentioning Star-Spangled Man With a Plan was a bit of an oversight.
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ub posted:Has the Every Frame a Painting bit on Marvel music been linked in this thread yet? Some interesting stuff about temp music. There was a good response to that, which gets into how it's not really a question of originality at all, and more that Zimmer/post-Zimmer cinematic music is about sound instead of melody (and thus 'unhummable'). BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 10:16 on Nov 7, 2016 |
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Nov 7, 2016 10:09
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Wheat Loaf posted:I genuinely didn't cotton onto that. For some reason my first thought was the poor guy in Justin Hammer's defective Iron Man knock-off armour from IM2. That's how I saw it. Strange's story makes more sense if his origin had been stewing since 2010 instead of five months ago.
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Firestar only exists because they couldn't get Human Torch for the cartoon, right? Or did she exist before that?Aphrodite posted:Cap is an enormous rear end in a top hat in Civil War. Still no.
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Yeah she was created for the cartoon because the Human Torch's rights were tied up for decades (also why he wasn't in the original Fantastic Four cartoon) and she was worked back into the comics later via New Mutants and a hilariously tragic origin which involved Emma Frost burning her horses alive to force her into a co-dependent state
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Gavok posted:That's how I saw it. Strange's story makes more sense if his origin had been stewing since 2010 instead of five months ago. It also makes sense when you consider he was already on Hydra's radar by the time Cap 2 happened. Although I guess you could argue that he was valuable even before he learned magic.
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Marvel has some good themes and musical cues, the problem is that outside of Elfman's Avengers theme none of them ever get reused.
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Nov 7, 2016 13:25
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Little Mac posted:Marvel has some good themes and musical cues, the problem is that outside of Elfman's Avengers theme none of them ever get reused. Silvestri did the Avengers theme, not Elfman. ELfman's AoU score is incredibly forgettable I think.
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Nov 7, 2016 13:27
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Silvestri did the Avengers theme, not Elfman. Elfman's Age of Ultron soundtrack was the first one that tried to really integrate the distinct themes of the individual heroes. You get variations on Brian Tyler's Iron Man and Thor cues and even a bit of Silvestri's Cap March towards the end. And, of course, Elfman's Avengers theme acts as kind of an evolution or extrapolation of Silvestri's original Avengers theme.
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Nov 7, 2016 13:39
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twistedmentat posted:I would not be surprised if Infinity War isn't the most expensive movie ever made or something else like that. I heard a rumour that the combined budget for both movies could potentially approach $1 billion.
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If you include marketting it absolutely will.Phylodox posted:Elfman's Age of Ultron soundtrack was the first one that tried to really integrate the distinct themes of the individual heroes. You get variations on Brian Tyler's Iron Man and Thor cues and even a bit of Silvestri's Cap March towards the end. And, of course, Elfman's Avengers theme acts as kind of an evolution or extrapolation of Silvestri's original Avengers theme. I liked that aspect but I thought it didn't bring much new to the table. I think the Harry Potter films (and  's Batmen) did a better job of building on previous films while adding in new stuff.
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I've watched all these movies, most of them multiple times, and I can't remember a single bit of music that wasn't AC/DC or the Star Spangled Man With The Plan song.
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The Avengers theme is pretty noticeable IMO.
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Deadpool 2 starts filming in January 2017... but still has no director.
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Argue posted:It also makes sense when you consider he was already on Hydra's radar by the time Cap 2 happened. Although I guess you could argue that he was valuable even before he learned magic. Yeah, I like that the movie showed that v Strange was a good guy who did save a lot of people and loved it. He was just kind of a dick about how good he was.
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Argue posted:It also makes sense when you consider he was already on Hydra's radar by the time Cap 2 happened. Although I guess you could argue that he was valuable even before he learned magic. I thought the movie took place after Avengers, but before the other phase 2 films. There is a mention of an officer whos spine was twisted by experimented armor, which is the Hammer one from IM2.
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The beginning has to be years before the end. He's in recovery for a long time, then it skips most of his training. I would think Winter Soldier is while he's showing his big promise as a sorcerer.
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Other Comic News Tidbits from today / the weekend: - Dr. Strange had an $85 million opening weekend. About $15 million higher than projected. - Universal is making a live-action Voltron movie written by David Hayter for an early 2018 release. - The Sandman Movie (that is totally getting made this time, we swear!) just had the writer quit. - The Aquaman solo movie started Pre-Production this week. - Oscar-winning composer Michael Giacchino (Doctor Strange, Star Wars: Rogue One) will do the score for Spider-Man: Homecoming - Doctor Strange is in Thor: Ragnarok. No word on how big a role it is, but sources say it is an extended cameo. - "American Psycho" Author Bret Easton Ellis says he had dinner with WB executives who complained about problems with the upcoming Batman solo movie's script. Take with a grain of salt since it is second hand. quote:And they were just telling me that there are serious problems with the script. And that the executives I was having dinner with were complaining about people who work on the Batman movie. And they just said they went to the studio and they said, ‘Look, the script is … Here’s 30 things that are wrong with it that we can fix.’ And [the executives] said, ‘We don’t care. We don’t really care. The amount of money we’re going to make globally, I mean 70 percent of our audience is not going to be seeing this in English. And it doesn’t really matter, these things that you’re bringing up about the flaws of the script.’ So I do think global concerns play a big part in how movies, and what movies, are being made, obviously.”
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Hollismason posted:I just realized The gloves are what fix his hands . The real reason he was wearing gloves is probably so they don't have to do the hand makeup all the time. The funny thing about the Sandman writer news is that he reportedly told the studio that it totally wasn't going to work as a movie and they really should be looking more towards a cable TV series. So even Hollywood screenwriters aren't immune to the "just make it an HBO series" bug.
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twistedmentat posted:I thought the movie took place after Avengers, but before the other phase 2 films. There is a mention of an officer whos spine was twisted by experimented armor, which is the Hammer one from IM2. I thought that was a reference to Rhodey's accident in Civil War?
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WHOOPS posted:I thought that was a reference to Rhodey's accident in Civil War? There's an shot of New York in the beginning of the movie that clearly shows Avengers Tower, which suggests that the movie begins somewhere between Avengers 1 and AoU. By the time Civil War roles around, it isn't Avengers Tower anymore.
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The timeline wouldn't really work if the end of Civil War is mentioned before Strange's car crash. He has to heal, then go through all of the various treatments, then go to Kamar Taj and only then does he start his training. We don't know how long his training lasts but it'd be very short if we assume everything from the car crash onward takes place only since Rhodey's injury, especially with Thor 3 right around the corner. And his training isn't just a matter of memorizing some spells, there's martial arts training involved as well. Edit: Christine says something about him being gone, but I forget if she says anything specific about months or years.
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