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| Goku |
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202 | 7.09% |
| Vegeta |
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279 | 9.79% |
| Krillin |
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208 | 7.30% |
| Piccolo or his nameks |
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212 | 7.44% |
| Gohan or Cool Gohan |
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135 | 4.74% |
| Yamcha |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Tien |
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120 | 4.21% |
| Muten Roshi |
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89 | 3.12% |
| Tao Pai Pai |
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71 | 2.49% |
| Frieza |
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69 | 2.42% |
| Cell or an android |
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86 | 3.02% |
| Buu |
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62 | 2.18% |
| Hercule "Mark" Satan |
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327 | 11.48% |
| Videl |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Bulma |
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104 | 3.65% |
| Yajirobe |
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99 | 3.47% |
| Ginyu or other Frieza squad guy |
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68 | 2.39% |
| King kai or another kai |
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53 | 1.86% |
| Chi-Chi |
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83 | 2.91% |
| Goten |
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43 | 1.51% |
| Trunks or Cool Trunks |
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112 | 3.93% |
| Bardock |
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48 | 1.68% |
| Other villain of DB,Z, or GT(please post about it!) |
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41 | 1.44% |
| Uub |
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42 | 1.47% |
| Oolong |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Zamasu |
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26 | 0.91% |
| Total: | 1326 votes | ||
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Maron > 18 > Bulma > Chi Chi > the one we all forgot.
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Nov 7, 2016 14:42
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Rutibex posted:So, the official canon is the manga (not the anime), up until Dragonball Super where the official canon switches to the anime? The idea of an official canon is completely hosed now. I think we are in for years of debates about what version of events is canon. It'll be anime vs manga vs movies vs nothing. It's gonna be fun!
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Nov 7, 2016 14:51
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If it's not in the manga, then it is in "questionable alternate timeline canon", which is where all of the movies and GT are.
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Nov 7, 2016 15:04
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Xenoverse is the only canon now
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Nov 7, 2016 15:05
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Anything that fits is what I consider canon. (Headcanon?) Stuff like Bardock.
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Nov 7, 2016 15:15
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Agoat posted:Anything that fits is what I consider canon. (Headcanon?) Technically there are mangas of him and Gine, so...
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Nov 7, 2016 15:25
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Just blame time travel creating too many timelines and leave it at that.
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Nov 7, 2016 16:14
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Canon was never a thing that especially mattered with Dragon Ball. The different versions of the story all influence each other anyways, even back when the manga was first being published.
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Nov 7, 2016 16:24
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The only canon we need is the one where Broly is canon
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Nov 7, 2016 16:25
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Special beam canon.
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Nov 7, 2016 16:36
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Raxivace posted:Canon was never a thing that especially mattered with Dragon Ball. The different versions of the story all influence each other anyways, even back when the manga was first being published. People only use canon to shut up dumb stuff like GT and Broly fans. And the one person that liked the Garlic Jr. Saga.
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Nov 7, 2016 16:53
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"Canon" is useful insomuch as there are some things that happen in filler which make non-filler stuff less sensible and it helps explain why, but beyond that nobody working on DB cares more about canon than fun.
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Nov 7, 2016 16:57
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sassassin posted:Special beam canon. Thread title, please.
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Nov 7, 2016 17:57
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Rudoku posted:People only use canon to shut up dumb stuff like GT and Broly fans. And the one person that liked the Garlic Jr. Saga. The Garlic Jr. Saga could've been cool if you changed basically everything about it.
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Nov 7, 2016 18:07
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sassassin posted:Special beam canon. This guy gets it. Toriyama had zero interest trying to connect to GT, or anything else. And I approve this message.
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Nov 7, 2016 18:10
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The best thing to happen to Dragon Ball canon is when like halfway through the Jaco manga, which at the time was assumed to be its own standalone thing, the Briefs family showed up with like 6 year old Bulma and everyone lost their minds about it secretly being a Dragon Ball prequel that even ended up being directly about Goku's arrival on earth Thank you Jaco for being great
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Nov 7, 2016 18:29
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How many people watching Super do you suppose even know the Jaco manga exists?
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Nov 7, 2016 18:30
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Jaco really is the best. I wish we could get some more content either on tv or print about his cool space cop adventures.
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Nov 7, 2016 18:30
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Kelp Plankton posted:The best thing to happen to Dragon Ball canon is when like halfway through the Jaco manga, which at the time was assumed to be its own standalone thing, the Briefs family showed up with like 6 year old Bulma and everyone lost their minds about it secretly being a Dragon Ball prequel that even ended up being directly about Goku's arrival on earth I think it was the last chapter that confirmed this was a Dragon Ball prequel, and Toriyama even joked about plugging Dragon Ball right at the end.
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Nov 7, 2016 18:49
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Kelp Plankton posted:Xenoverse is the only canon now Put it this way; I would NOT be surprised to have the Supreme Kai of Time actually showing up in Super to fix this mess and/or lambast Zamasu for the Time Rings nonsense. Or she's appointed/born specifically because of this mess right at the end.
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Nov 7, 2016 19:32
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The only thing I care about is if Goku and Piccolo driving cars is canon.
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Nov 7, 2016 19:56
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SpazmasterX posted:The only thing I care about is if Goku and Piccolo driving cars is canon. It is the only canon thing in the entire Dragon Ball Extended Tourniverse
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Nov 7, 2016 20:07
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Bloodly posted:Put it this way; I would NOT be surprised to have the Supreme Kai of Time actually showing up in Super to fix this mess and/or lambast Zamasu for the Time Rings nonsense. Or she's appointed/born specifically because of this mess right at the end. If you look closely at Xeno Trunks' clothes, you can see that he has Future Trunks' sweater on underneath. In short, yes, your OC is canon.
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Nov 7, 2016 20:22
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Raxivace posted:How many people watching Super do you suppose even know the Jaco manga exists? if you care enough to search out and watch fan subs (until crunchyroll picked it up, but still), you probably care enough to have read jaco's bizarre adventures especially since he's in the movies and people probably went "ok but who" and looked it up
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Nov 7, 2016 20:36
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Pyroi posted:If you look closely at Xeno Trunks' clothes, you can see that he has Future Trunks' sweater on underneath. if anything XV2 establishes everything is canon in some timeline or another Interestingly Turles and Slug are explicitly from "different histories" but no one is surprised when Cooler shows up, so I guess the implication is Cooler really always existed even if the movies with him in it couldn't have happened in the ""main timeline""
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Nov 7, 2016 21:36
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Blockhouse posted:if anything XV2 establishes everything is canon in some timeline or another Cooler exists somewhere in the world he's just varying levels of not giving a poo poo about his family
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Nov 7, 2016 21:41
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at this point, I can't imagine anyone is ever surprised to see a freeza
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Nov 7, 2016 21:58
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One big thing that points to him being canon is the fact that Toriyama himself designed Cooler and Final Form Cooler. He's just not as strong as Freezer, so he doesn't get involved in as much poo poo
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Nov 7, 2016 22:00
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Tarble is canon because Bulma mentions him in Battle of the Gods which is canon.
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Nov 7, 2016 22:15
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Canon: Jaco manga -> DB manga -> Dragonball Z Kai + Goku and Piccolo drive cars + Krillin throws a rock at Goku's head -> Son Goku And Friends Return -> Vegeta goes to a theme park -> Battle of Gods -> Revival of F -> Cross Universe Tournament Saga -> Goku Black/Zamasu Saga -> Xenoverse 1 -> Dragonball heroes/Xenoverse 2 simultaneously -> Dragonball Online -> Dragonball Fusions -> excessive time travel ruins spacetime and causes Dragonball GT
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Nov 7, 2016 22:32
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Kelp Plankton posted:-> excessive time travel ruins spacetime and causes Dragonball GT good punchline
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Nov 7, 2016 22:40
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What makes it so Cooler's first appearance can't be canon? I'm not arguing, just wondering. I kinda thought he just shows up one day, gets dunked on, done. Doesn't seem hard to fit in.
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Nov 7, 2016 23:00
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Spiderdrake posted:What makes it so Cooler's first appearance can't be canon? I'm not arguing, just wondering. I kinda thought he just shows up one day, gets dunked on, done. Doesn't seem hard to fit in. I think it takes place pre-Trunks/Frieza fight while also having Goku on Earth which is an impossible point in time according to normal events Xenoverse 2 just being like "the movies are other timelines" makes pretty much everything avoid that problem though PS the time egg that Tokitoki lays that contains a new timeline is where Super comes from, its all canonical
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Nov 7, 2016 23:06
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Spiderdrake posted:What makes it so Cooler's first appearance can't be canon? I'm not arguing, just wondering. I kinda thought he just shows up one day, gets dunked on, done. Doesn't seem hard to fit in. At what point in time was Goku around but not able to go Super on command, while Gohan still had a tail?
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Nov 7, 2016 23:08
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Last episode I watched was the one where Freeza kills Vegeta. I'd forgotten that this dub (Funimation) was the with the weird line where Vegeta finds religion on his deathbed and remarks that, "If there really is a God, He must be good to let me live long enough to see this." It also has Vegeta explaining that he was only evil because Freeza said he'd kill his father if Vegeta didn't do everything he said, which I think is a bit hard to square with how he'd acted in all his scenes up to that point. What does he say in that scene in the Japanese version?
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Nov 7, 2016 23:30
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If I remember correctly, he tells Kakarotto to take his Saiyan pride and kill Freeza as revenge for what he did to the Saiyans. At no point does Vegeta show regret for his actions, nor does he put an excuse for them, he's a bloodthirsty monster to his last moment, just one that happens to be on the heroes' side for the time being. Goku also has his first moment of Saiyan pride then and there.
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Nov 7, 2016 23:32
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Loved the episode. Vegeta taking the hit for his son was pretty great. God I hope that Pilaf does some shenanigans with the dragonballs, Vegeto has to stay around for a while longer, there's some hijinks with both familys, the new tournament starts but there's some hubub about forbidden godly fusions and time fuckery going on, Zeno is upset he can't pal around with Goku but gets palmed off to Mr. Satan or something, Beerus sweats a little more about all this going down in his universe and Bulma sasses another god. snickothemule fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Nov 8, 2016 |
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Nov 7, 2016 23:54
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Spiritus Nox posted:At what point in time was Goku around but not able to go Super on command, while Gohan still had a tail? Probably because I haven't watched the movie proper in a decade
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Nov 7, 2016 23:57
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Zeno-sama is going to be very upset that his friend is now half Vegeta.
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Nov 8, 2016 00:22
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VanSandman posted:The Garlic Jr. Saga could've been cool if you changed basically everything about it. Maron is great. Yamcha beats up Piccolo. Everyone gets to beat up Gohan, knowing how much of a failure he'd be. Garlick Jr. saga is good apart from Kami and Popo's magical journey fighting evil ghosts. And the last fight drags a bit.
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