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Fuck You And Diebold
Sep 15, 2004

by Athanatos
I was stuck at a budget car rental for 45 minutes with the Hillary concession speech on. I think part of me died there

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Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
If your diagnoses is Hillary isn't left enough then your missing the point. Where you were on the right left spectrum did not matter in this election.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Louisgod posted:

My wife was amazingly somber but realistic this morning and saw the writing on the wall months ago relative, to her point, how people, including women and minorities (she underlined especially minorities) are remarkably sexist and distrusting of women. It's a view I just don't have as a white man and I fully believe her after she explained her feelings.

I was taken back by how she called out how rampant it is for women to be distrusting of other women regardless of class and how Hillary was essentially forced to balance her personality by not coming off strong, endearing and pompous and had to maintain composure without being, well, confident.

She's fully convinced the major factor that lead to her defeat was sexism. I hate to dismiss her view as MANSPLAINING or "no the polls said this.." or blaming white nationalists, but I'm starting to buy in that HRC lost because of the unspoken, non-captured misogyny women face every day that spread its way to this election. Racism and bigoted attitudes were definitely contributing factors but the way my wife put it was an "I get it" moment for me and I'm pretty loving convinced she's right.

I dunno this is probably the one hour of sleep speaking but we're going to have to do a thorough job of reverse engineering what happened beyond democrats not showing up to the polls.

Women do not unite in this country. Or, effectively, in almost any country. When they do, e.g. Iceland, they do very well. But America is a cutthroat country and there's very little love lost between different contingents of women.

Rocks
Dec 30, 2011

Obama is making an awesome speech and I look forward to seeing what he gets up to after the Presidency :3:

386-SX 25Mhz VGA
Jan 14, 2003

(C) American Megatrends Inc.,

Truga posted:

No, because she lost to an orange fascist.
It's really bizarre to hear constant breathlessness in the news about the power of the Trump base, then look at the results, and Hillary is +200k votes.

Trump supporters didn't decide this election, the electoral college did.

Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich

Josef K. Sourdust posted:

:siren: INFO POST :siren:

The Estonian national government has collapsed after a vote of no confidence. There will automatically be an election. Estonia has a 25% population of Russians. Estonia has an electronic voting system (afaik) and has been subject of Russian cyberwarfare in the past. There are pro-Russian political parties.

It's on.

Oh boy....

Well that's sobering

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

sugar free jazz posted:

alright so far we got


national highway fund
medicaid
medicare
social security
federal education funding
the epa
the irs
the federal reserve
national parks
justice department


what else we got. I'm gonna go out on a weird limb, total reach here, and say the pentagon and nsa are gonna get their funding grifted

nasa is gonna get all the funding when newt convinces trump to build the Trump Moon Base

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

sugar free jazz posted:

alright so far we got


national highway fund
medicaid
medicare
social security
federal education funding
the epa
the irs
the federal reserve
national parks
justice department


what else we got. I'm gonna go out on a weird limb, total reach here, and say the pentagon and nsa are gonna get their funding grifted

department of labor RIP jobs programs

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k

Pick posted:

Women do not unite in this country. Or, effectively, in almost any country. When they do, e.g. Iceland, they do very well. But America is a cutthroat country and there's very little love lost between different contingents of women.




Hahahaha hahaha, women, boy lemme tell ya *golf swing*

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

386-SX 25Mhz VGA posted:

So does Clinton winning more votes for president than Trump in the 2016 election not even warrant a footnote or mention on any election site or discussion today?

Yeah sure, she gets a place right next to Gore in the "poo poo no one cares about" paragraph of this decade.

GobiasIndustries
Dec 14, 2007

Lipstick Apathy

Yudo posted:

Clark is legit nuts though, not just a dud.

Again, David Clarke murdered one of his prisoners
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/david-clarke-jail-death-terrill-thomas_us_57e03580e4b04a1497b5f12e

Marx Headroom
May 10, 2007

AT LAST! A show with nonono commercials!
Fallen Rib

iospace posted:

I don't know, the same fuckers who gave trump unlimited free airtime to talk about whatever he dammed pleased while he continued to poo poo all over them. If the 1st amendment gets dismantled, the press did loving nothing to stop it.

Yeah the left leaning sources who were desperately looking for that primo slur that will totally destroy Trump this time really had nothing to do with it

FourLeaf
Dec 2, 2011

Pick posted:

Jim Webb. I think he could have done it.

No. Just no.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Louisgod posted:

My wife was amazingly somber but realistic this morning and saw the writing on the wall months ago relative, to her point, how people, including women and minorities (she underlined especially minorities) are remarkably sexist and distrusting of women. It's a view I just don't have as a white man and I fully believe her after she explained her feelings.

I was taken back by how she called out how rampant it is for women to be distrusting of other women regardless of class and how Hillary was essentially forced to balance her personality by not coming off strong, endearing and pompous and had to maintain composure without being, well, confident.

She's fully convinced the major factor that lead to her defeat was sexism. I hate to dismiss her view as MANSPLAINING or "no the polls said this.." or blaming white nationalists, but I'm starting to buy in that HRC lost because of the unspoken, non-captured misogyny women face every day that spread its way to this election. Racism and bigoted attitudes were definitely contributing factors but the way my wife put it was an "I get it" moment for me and I'm pretty loving convinced she's right.

I dunno this is probably the one hour of sleep speaking but we're going to have to do a thorough job of reverse engineering what happened beyond democrats not showing up to the polls.

Basically yeah, bigotry won the day. It's why I don't think Bernie would have done much better, you would just sub out "woman" with "Jew" and you still stir up the right wing hate machine.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

Venom Snake posted:

If your diagnoses is Hillary isn't left enough then your missing the point. Where you were on the right left spectrum did not matter in this election.

she should have made more empty promises and threaten to string up bankers and wall street but nope, those are her buddies! :)

Terror Sweat
Mar 15, 2009

gradenko_2000 posted:

"I love gives-no-fucks Obama, especially at all the shade he's throwing at Donald Trump!" - D&D, including myself, for multiple months

please dont mention that poo poo forum here, its all garbage

Space Flower
Sep 10, 2014

by Games Forum
hrm, no thrash metal at obama's speech. this bodes ill

Dr_0ctag0n
Apr 25, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 4 days!
Webb would have ended Trump just like that VC that threw a grenade at him.

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

resar posted:

FDR never happened I see

FDR as much as he owned did through the japanese in internment camps and much of what he did was to save off a socialist revolution. FDR's platform at the time was maybe more far left, but Bernie got a lot of the concessions he wanted and :shrug:

Vertical Lime
Dec 11, 2004

MadJackal posted:

Yeah sure, she gets a place right next to Gore in the "poo poo no one cares about" paragraph of this decade.

people associated with bill are poison

The_Politics_Man
Aug 25, 2015

Venom Snake posted:

If your diagnoses is Hillary isn't left enough then your missing the point. Where you were on the right left spectrum did not matter in this election.

why did your queen fail then?

386-SX 25Mhz VGA
Jan 14, 2003

(C) American Megatrends Inc.,

MadJackal posted:

Yeah sure, she gets a place right next to Gore in the "poo poo no one cares about" paragraph of this decade.
right next to voter suppression, poo poo that decides our elections but we can't mention because it's not important

Yudo
May 15, 2003

iospace posted:

Basically yeah, bigotry won the day. It's why I don't think Bernie would have done much better, you would just sub out "woman" with "Jew" and you still stir up the right wing hate machine.

You have no idea what just happened.

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot
Enjoy the new legitimacy of the KKK, gently caress it. Enjoy watching muslims/browns be persecuted even more, truly nothing matters. Have fun watching other minorities be scapegoated in the near future.

Josef K. Sourdust
Jul 16, 2014

"To be quite frank, Platinum sucks at making games. Vanquish was terrible and Metal Gear Rising: Revengance was so boring it put me to sleep."

PK loving SUBBAN posted:

Well that's sobering

Chance to test tankies on their "hurrr, what's wrong with Putin?" line

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Darkman Fanpage posted:

she should have made more empty promises and threaten to string up bankers and wall street but nope, those are her buddies! :)

Those are not her buddies. But it doesn't matter anymore.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Shinjobi posted:

Hahahaha hahaha, women, boy lemme tell ya *golf swing*

I'm a woman so I'm allowed to be mad at what we've done right now.

Pook Good Mook
Aug 6, 2013


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sugar free jazz posted:

alright so far we got


national highway fund
medicaid
medicare
social security
federal education funding
the epa
the irs
the federal reserve
national parks
justice department


what else we got. I'm gonna go out on a weird limb, total reach here, and say the pentagon and nsa are gonna get their funding grifted

They might futz around the edges with this, but their base clearly loves this poo poo. I really don't know how the GOP navigates learning that their base actually loves government spending so long as it's stuff they like.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Pook Good Mook posted:

If Chuck Schumer isn't planning to invoke cloture on every loving thing that comes before the body he's a goddamn moron. Some of the administrative stuff that the Executive branch passed under Obama is gone (or will at least be up to the courts once Trump-lackey led rule-making runs its course). The Senate can still save Obamacare, the tax code, certain social programs. You still need 60 votes to get any federal judges elected. Let Trump and his incompetent administration go hard right and get people pissed off (don't forget, 2/3's of Americans are totally fine with gay marriage, women in military, trans rights, etc). Senate dems need to hold the line.

The GOP are going to use the nuclear option at the first sign of Dem opposition.

Also lol if you think a shitlord like Schumer isn't going to cross the aisle.

Terror Sweat
Mar 15, 2009

hopefully the first victims will be all the clintonistas at the dnc

sugar free jazz
Mar 5, 2008

yeaah labor and HUD i forgot about those
FHA loans are straight outa here

fuckin, federal disaster insurance and FEMA holy poo poo fema they gonna get burned to the ground lmaoooo

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes
he big losers, beyond the Clinton family and Barack Obama: The Democratic Party, which now looks like a leaderless husk of what was once a coalition sure of its demographic destiny; the true NeverTrumpers who hoped Trump would lose big; John Podesta and the Clinton team; TV networks who garnered a new degree of hate from a frustrated electorate; James Comey, who will get it from both sides; old media conservatives who didn’t just reject but dismissed Trump and the phenomenon as mere celebrity worship; conservatives in the foreign policy space who explicitly backed her; any consultants who specialize in expensive GOTV efforts; the GOP autopsy; Bill Weld, who pretended to be a libertarian to try and get Hillary Clinton elected; and Joe Biden, who everyone will look back to as being able to beat Trump handily had he run.

What is clear is this: Donald Trump is the man Americans have chosen as their vehicle for the dramatic change they demand from Washington. They have utterly rejected the change offered in the eight year Barack Obama agenda as wholly insufficient. And they have given Trump the rare gift of a united government in order to make those changes happen. They have tossed aside the assumptions of an elite class of gatekeepers and commentators whose opinions they disrespect and disavow. And they have sent a message to Washington that nothing less than wholesale change will satisfy them, including a change in the fundamental character of the commander in chief.

http://thefederalist.com/2016/11/09/really-deserves-credit-trumps-win-barack-obama-media/

petit choux
Feb 24, 2016

Thoguh posted:

Also lets not forget those Podesta emails about how they wanted to push candidates like Trump and Carson so she would have an easier time in the general. Way to go DNC>

Yeah, about them "Podesta emails." If Hillary had Russian hackers casually dropping Republicans' confidential emails into public domain, she might have won it, too. ::makesyathink:: Or if a prominent Republican on the FBI spoke out a week before the voting began against Trump for - oh, I don't know, maybe he's done something, Hillary might have done better. Jesus gently caress, the stolen intel being treated as just another oppo drop. Like you're at a nascar race and somebody wins because somebody threw a tire in front of the leader, causing him to wipe out, that wouldn't be considered a legit win. It shouldn't be so quickly forgotten that Trump benefited massively from other people cheating. As well as his own, and the FEC lacked the decency to stand up to him.

Dogpiling on the loser is pretty undignified, IMO. Donald cheated and lied about everything and lots of republicans aided him in that. Republicans got a career swindler and libertine elected president, and used Russian intel to do it. This is worse than Watergate, because all the Pubs are still behind it. Because nobody called it out to begin with.

Donald Trump won this election by cheating, and by realizing that if he cheated, the people calling him out for it wouldn't have any power to do anything about it and he can distract the audience from it. Nixon made the mistake of being furtive about it.

petit choux fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Nov 9, 2016

Cephalocidal
Dec 23, 2005

sugar free jazz posted:

alright so far we got


national highway fund
medicaid
medicare
social security
federal education funding
the epa
the irs
the federal reserve
national parks
justice department


what else we got. I'm gonna go out on a weird limb, total reach here, and say the pentagon and nsa are gonna get their funding grifted

NASA may or may not be hosed, depending on how angry Trump is at space

Vanilla Mint Ice
Jul 17, 2007

A raccoon is not finished when he is defeated. He is finished when he quits.
A relay race, a relay race against someone who has been kicking and spitting on you the whole time and now you have to hand the baton to him and as soon as you do he is going to push you down to your rear end and squat on your face before running to the sunset controlling all branches of government as the most powerful person in the world

Communist Bear
Oct 7, 2008

Its great watching Babylon 5 happen in real life.

Who is Mr Morden in this version?

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

resar posted:

why did your queen fail then?

Trump: I will make the impossible possible and bring coal back from the dead. Hillary: insert a long winding talk about education and retraining here.

sugar free jazz
Mar 5, 2008

Pook Good Mook posted:

They might futz around the edges with this, but their base clearly loves this poo poo. I really don't know how the GOP navigates learning that their base actually loves government spending so long as it's stuff they like.


u are wrong u are so fuckin wrong theyre gonna block grantn that poo poo and its gonna go straight down the toilet

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Rocks posted:

Obama is making an awesome speech and I look forward to seeing what he gets up to after the Presidency :3:

Obama can give the classiest loving speeches no matter what. I'm sure if he lost in 08 or '12, he would give one of the greatest concession speeches of all time.

Though now he's giving his in 2016 :smith:

Mr. Jive posted:

Yeah the left leaning sources who were desperately looking for that primo slur that will totally destroy Trump this time really had nothing to do with it

"OH hey, trump is giving a policy speech, DROP EVERYTHING TO COVER IT!" vs "Oh, that wonk Hillary is giving a dry policy speech, meh, who cares." Then you had the boatloads of oppo that came out /that no one ran/. No one. Kurt kept on shouting at his colleagues going HEY YOU GUYS, THERE'S SOME SERIOUS poo poo HERE and no one cared because it didn't get them clicks.

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Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
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Cephalocidal posted:

NASA may or may not be hosed, depending on how angry Trump is at space

gingrich wants a moon colony so who knows

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