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Crowsbeak posted:For the most part I agree, but the people who are already part of the KKK, Nazis and others. We should subjugate, we should make fear, we should make wish they did not think the way they did. They are despicable, but special rules become common rules very easily. This is not a liberal way to think.
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nimh posted:gently caress off then. Seriously what is this? Go emmigrate to china and whinge that a gay spic isnt the party boss. How about you gently caress off with your racial slurs you ignorant son of a bitch. Ah yes let's address the poster with Mexican heritage with "spic." Lightning Knight fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Nov 9, 2016 |
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steinrokkan posted:Yeah, they are representative of 150 million people without an exception, including those who voted for Obama. If you ally yourself with Neo-Nazis you can't bitch when you're called an ally of Neo-Nazis.
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Agnosticnixie posted:I could probably go I told you so but this thread has had enough of them already, so question about an obscure point of US constitutionalism: as long as there is a case relating to it they can overturn precedence and any laws. whether they actually will do it is less clear -- i don't think they're going to find a case and overturn brown v board any time soon, though i guess gop people could deliberately set one up for that purpose if they thought it'd work. its true that just because something is not a constitutional right it doesn't remove federal laws protecting the ability to do it though so overturning lawrence wouldn't immediately illegalize bein' gay; however, it would make it possible for states and the fed to do so if they wished. which they would wish, probably.
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steinrokkan posted:But instead the current strategy is to convince the people who are not part of those groups that they are, in fact, just as bad, and might as well join them because we won't be arsed to acknowledge any difference. Dude, I've lived in the South for all 44 years of my life. You don't have to wear a robe or shave your loving head to hold dearly & cherish those things that comport to white nationalism. If you think the extreme right-wing groups like the Arayans were the only part of the Repub base who can't stand minorities & vote based on those dumb fears then you don't know poo poo from shinola.
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steinrokkan posted:But instead the current strategy is to convince the people who are not part of those groups that they are, in fact, just as bad, and might as well join them because we won't be arsed to acknowledge any difference. I mean, that's basically how democracy works, yeah. If you vote for the guy who says all the Mexicans are rapists and wants to bar Muslims entry to the US, and keeps spotting black people at his rallies and calling them out on mic as "thugs", then we can assume that you endorse all that poo poo, or at least don't consider it to be enough of a flaw to lose your vote.
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rudatron posted:Democrats have kept telling them that nothing will change, those jobs aren't coming back. Democrats have also been the only ones to offer realistic ways to fix this (for example, subsidized education in new fields). I have no problem condemning someone who votes for a "I will make the jobs magically return and give everyone unicorns" platform over actual policies.
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Who What Now posted:If you ally yourself with Neo-Nazis you can't bitch when you're called an ally of Neo-Nazis. They allied themselves with the Republican Party, the largest and longest running party in the USA. How are they responsible for who else affiliates with them, were people who voted Democrat also complicit on George Wallace's segregationist policies in Alabama, or affiliated with the KKK because they voted for the party represented by KKK member Byrd?
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FourLeaf posted:The liberal focus on loving stupid celebrity crap instead of real policies that affect people is why we are here today. This is the best post in the thread, the day after a reality TV star just got elected president by the other party.
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Lightning Knight posted:
I think this is totally wrong; the messaging should be universal and in a way that leads to logical, favorable conclusions on those issues.
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Lightning Knight posted:How about you gently caress off with your racial slurs you ignorant son of a bitch. Hey Homeboy, you live in a predominately straight white nation. You dont want to be ruled predominately by straight white men then GTFO.
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steinrokkan posted:They allied themselves with the Republican Party, the largest and longest running party in the USA. How are they responsible for who else affiliates with them, were people who voted Democrat also complicit on George Wallace's segregationist policies in Alabama, or affiliated with the KKK because they voted for the party represented by KKK member Byrd? The parties are not equal in their reprehensibleness, and only the most irredeemable of morons pretends that they are.
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So are there any detailed breakdowns of what Trump is likely to do once he takes office and what his obstacles are?
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you told a black poster that Trump is his fault and that kind of sort of makes me disinclined to take you seriously
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So I was curious about the numbers in Florida and the demographic breakdown, so used these two sources for vote numbers and demographics: http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/florida http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/08/politics/first-exit-polls-2016/ so for the 3 main candidates in Florida there were 9,296,909 total votes cast. According to the CNN exit poll 18% of voters in Florida were Hispanic, of those 33% voted for Trump - roughly 552,236. Trump had a majority of 119,817 in Florida. Trump wouldn't have won Florida if he didn't have a good level support among the Hispanic population there, he only got around 8% of the votes from Black people (97,600 roughly) so if his support amongst the Hispanic population was down at the same levels as it was in the Black population, he would have lost Florida , and only been on 250 electoral college votes.
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Who What Now posted:The parties are not equal in their reprehensibleness, and only the most irredeemable of morons pretends that they are. I do not, but it makes no sense to infer that A likes B C likes B therefore A likes C Especially when B is one of only two options available in the most important act of citizen empowerment.
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steinrokkan posted:They allied themselves with the Republican Party, the largest and longest running party in the USA. How are they responsible for who else affiliates with them, were people who voted Democrat also complicit on George Wallace's segregationist policies in Alabama, or affiliated with the KKK because they voted for the party represented by KKK member Byrd? YES, because that is the entire point of democratically elected officials. Their actions represent the will of the people, on paper at least, and so the people, by definition, hold some responsibility for putting that person into a position of power via election.
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Oh cool, making apologies for racists by saying those mean black people and sjws forced them into being racists. "Well I was just hanging out with racists and silently tolerating them, but since you called me the R word I have no choice but to scream white power every chance I get."
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I think something else to keep in mind over the coming days is that more people voted for Hillary, and the president of the United States is Donald Trump
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I blame facebook. gently caress facebook.
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steinrokkan posted:They allied themselves with the Republican Party, the largest and longest running party in the USA. How are they responsible for who else affiliates with them, were people who voted Democrat also complicit on George Wallace's segregationist policies in Alabama, or affiliated with the KKK because they voted for the party represented by KKK member Byrd? If they voted for George Wallace, yes that's not that hard.
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nimh posted:Hey Homeboy, you live in a predominately straight white nation. You dont want to be ruled predominately by straight white men then GTFO. Yeah, when America goes majority-minority I'm gonna see if this line of reasoning is still trotted out by you white nationalists.
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Harik posted:This is the best post in the thread, the day after a reality TV star just got elected president by the other party. OK you know what? you're right. what I SHOULD have said was: one party ran a celebrity candidate who spoke to people's concerns while the other ran a candidate who used celebrities to make rap videos about how stupid the other party's supporters were. guess there's smart ways to use celebrities in your campaign and incredibly stupid ways. Hillary picked the latter
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nimh posted:Hey Homeboy, you live in a predominately straight white nation. You dont want to be ruled predominately by straight white men then GTFO. Hey rear end in a top hat, you're a prick who uses racial slurs. Burn in hell.
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FCKGW posted:I blame facebook. gently caress facebook. i feel this is a good position for all occasions
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Captain Magic posted:They are despicable, but special rules become common rules very easily. This is not a liberal way to think. The US needs more socialist ways and to stop basking it the neoliberal consensus so that's probably a good idea. Banning nazis is not a matter of making people unequal before the law, it's a matter of dealing with a bunch of violent genocidal morons.
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paranoid randroid posted:you told a black poster that Trump is his fault and that kind of sort of makes me disinclined to take you seriously
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steinrokkan posted:They allied themselves with the Republican Party, the largest and longest running party in the USA. Uh, no, the Democrats are several decades older.
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steinrokkan posted:I do not, but it makes no sense to infer that That's not what the situation is. Here's a more accurate analogy. A likes B C likes B for the exact same reasons as A, but is more vocal about it Therefore A and C are not meaningfully different.
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Trabisnikof posted:If they voted for George Wallace, yes that's not that hard. Trump people didn't vote for David Duke or whatever.
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JFairfax posted:So I was curious about the numbers in Florida and the demographic breakdown, so used these two sources for vote numbers and demographics: itt democrats think that THE HISPANICS vote in lockstep
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Lightning Knight posted:Hey rear end in a top hat, you're a prick who uses racial slurs. Youre are literally denouncing straight white people. Thats why i called you a spic. You can choose where to live. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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steinrokkan posted:I do not, but it makes no sense to infer that Again, you're hinting that outside of identifiable groups like the KKK/Arayans/et. al., that racism wasn't a driving factor in the rest of the Trump voters.
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nimh posted:Youre are literally denouncing straight white people. Thats why i called you a spic. You can choose where to live. Quoting this astounding bit of insight into the troubled white american mind.
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nimh posted:Hey Homeboy, you live in a predominately straight white nation. You dont want to be ruled predominately by straight white men then GTFO. Oh hey a white supremacist. Can we expect that in a few decades you'll be singing the praises of Aztlan?
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JFairfax posted:So I was curious about the numbers in Florida and the demographic breakdown, so used these two sources for vote numbers and demographics: B-b-b-b-b-but the white supremacists! Hillary had no chance it's not fair!
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This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!
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Fojar38 posted:So are there any detailed breakdowns of what Trump is likely to do once he takes office and what his obstacles are? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37862521 What Trump (Or Mike Pence) have said he'll do on day 1 quote:, Indiana Gov. Mike Pence, has promised Trump will do):
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nimh posted:Youre are literally denouncing straight white people. Thats why i called you a spic. You can choose where to live.  I bet you're super pleasant in real life.
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nimh posted:Youre are literally denouncing straight white people. Thats why i called you a spic. You can choose where to live. Oh no he called me white, what a horrible slur, boo hoo. Like how do you live with yourself, do you have to be in a hamster bubble when you go out to deal with the oversensitivity?
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