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Matoi Ryuko posted:I'm just the new anime mod. If I were an admin though I would have banned nimh on the spot. Matoi for Admin 2016
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Did Republicans get this sad and butthurt when McCain and Romney lost? I get being bummed but people on my twitter are talking about how to use TOR and how Trump is going to have roaming deportation squads and its like LMAO you sound like the militia guys from that MoJo piece.
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I can't even backdoor in a probation anymore. ZDR fixed it. :/
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greatn posted:How is Trump going to end the war on coal, by banning fracking? As far as I'm aware, I'm not sure he can end the war on coal. Best I can tell most of the stuff he promised is unfeasible. Which raises the question of "what will the people who voted for him do when he can't accomplish what he said he would?" guess we'll find out over the next few years, fun times ahead.
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steinrokkan posted:I'm "hinting" that it racism is one of ways in which frustration can manifest, and that Democrats are first incompetent that they can't use the same frustration to inspire a different, more constructive emotion, second that they refuse to delve into these supposedly forever tainted waters, thuse conceding the conservatives, who have no such reservations about interfering on ideologically hostile ground, more and more territory. In other words, that they are so afraid of getting their hands dirty that they would rather lose everything. It kinda is
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Matoi Ryuko posted:I can't even backdoor in a probation anymore. ZDR fixed it. :/
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:As far as I'm aware, I'm not sure he can end the war on coal. Best I can tell most of the stuff he promised is unfeasible. Yeah I seriously can't see how it's possible. If the economy tanks and oil prices are low natural gas prices will still be low (because demand will be, way, way down) and it'll still eat in to coal, massively. If the economy doesn't tank and he does something stupid and oil prices go up, fracking gets turned back on and natural gas will still be vastly cheaper than coal and still eat in to coal. I don't think he can really do anything to make exporting coal come back, either.
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Main Paineframe posted:They probably feel the exact same way about you. Everyone feels that their beliefs are basically correct, and thanks to modern media, the internet, and decades of ideological think-tanks, anyone can find a factual-sounding piece of "evidence" to support their beliefs if anyone tries to tell them they're wrong. You can't convince them because they've already decided that what they believe is the truth and that anything that contradicts that is fake. That's why conservatives bitch about "scientists", "academics", and "the media" all being liberal - if a scientist determines that something in their conservative beliefs is objectively false, then clearly the scientist is just a tool of the leftist conspiracy, cooking the books and creating fake "truths" to swindle the populace and support the dastardly liberal agenda. I don't disagree at all. But it kinds of turns the whole "you must live among them & find common ground" argument on its head. What's scary to me is that these folks aren't unintelligent. They have jobs (some of them very high paying & lofty positions). They seem like normal folks who would have normal, maybe even centrist, positions. But the mere mention of anything Democrat brings out Alex Jones-esque volumes of bile & falsehoods.
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z0glin Warchief posted:The democratic voters in PA/WI/MI didn't believe this to be true. Clinton didn't lose because those people voted for Trump, she lost because they either weren't aware of the policies she would be pushing, or didn't trust her to follow through on them, and so stayed home. The trust factor was big I think. People were clearly looking for an outsider candidate. Whether it actually or ultimately makes sense is a different story.
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FactsAreUseless posted:You can PM an admin and see if any are around. I probated that guy, although I didn't see the post originally. I'm only seeing one in like... four pages, maybe. This thread's moving really fast. Right time, right place is all. I knew the umpteen reports on nimh would bring an admin by pretty quickly anyway.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:As far as I'm aware, I'm not sure he can end the war on coal. Best I can tell most of the stuff he promised is unfeasible. We can always just directly subsidize coal mines.
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C2C - 2.0 posted:After the hullaballoo subsides a bit, I'll probably reactivate my FB account. And those same folks will be there; the ones who I tried MANY, MANY, MANY loving times to have civil conversations with about the state of the nation. Begin by reforming your own party with new talent, capable of establishing some credibility for themselves. Then you'll have the same structural advantage as they. The GOP machine is well oiled, but the Democratic has been objectively lackluster, and as long as this state of affairs is allowed to persist, there can be only minimal inroads into the GOP territory. The Democratic party needs to find a common energy to start proselytizing en masse, not rely on individuals to try and do the politicians' jobs for them. Unfortunately Clinton was emblematic of the ivory tower attitude of not engaging with people she found beneath her. Meanwhile the GOP side has so much organized energy, used for wrong purposes.
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Pervis posted:Yeah I seriously can't see how it's possible. If the economy tanks and oil prices are low natural gas prices will still be low (because demand will be, way, way down) and it'll still eat in to coal, massively. He could probably try to subsidize the living hell out of it. Won't help his spending agenda, but that is something he could try.
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PST posted:Some, yeah. Stuff he can do without anyone else: Has he selected who his Secretaries of State/Defense will be?
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steinrokkan posted:Begin by reforming your own party with new talent, capable of establishing some credibility for themselves. Then you'll have the same structural advantage as they. The GOP machine is well oiled, but the Democratic has been objectively lackluster, and as long as this state of affairs is allowed to persist, there can be only minimal inroads into the GOP territory. The Democratic party needs to find a common energy to start proselytizing en masse, not rely on individuals to try and do the politicians' jobs for them. Unfortunately Clinton was emblematic of the ivory tower attitude of not engaging with people she found beneath her. Meanwhile the GOP side has so much organized energy, used for wrong purposes. The common energy is racism in america
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Trabisnikof posted:If they voted for George Wallace, yes that's not that hard. They basically did so...
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:Trump doesn't actually have any plans on how to actually do anything he promised that's more complicated than signing his name to something, hth. Yep. Don't look at Trumps views. Look at what Rudy and Chris Christy want to see what's gonna happen.
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steinrokkan posted:Begin by reforming your own party with new talent, capable of establishing some credibility for themselves. Then you'll have the same structural advantage as they. The GOP machine is well oiled, but the Democratic has been objectively lackluster, and as long as this state of affairs is allowed to persist, there can be only minimal inroads into the GOP territory. The Democratic party needs to find a common energy to start proselytizing en masse, not rely on individuals to try and do the politicians' jobs for them. Unfortunately Clinton was emblematic of the ivory tower attitude of not engaging with people she found beneath her. Meanwhile the GOP side has so much organized energy, used for wrong purposes. New Orleans has its own set of unique problems within the party that seem to be more deeply rooted & go back much further than anything else I've complained about in this thread. Hell, the whole state for that matter. 
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Trump is the GOP's Springtime for Hitler Metal Gear Rising Revengeance was ahead of its time
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Fojar38 posted:Has he selected who his Secretaries of State/Defense will be? He hasn't but this is what got said to the NYTimes quote:Rudy Giuliani for attorney general, Newt Gingrich for secretary of state, retired Lt. Gen Michael Flynn for defense secretary or national security adviser, Trump finance chairman Steve Mnuchin for Treasury secretary, and Republican National Committee finance chair Lew Eisenberg for commerce secretary.
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which cabinet position is in charge of bridges? because i think a certain new jerseyan might fit the bill
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Lessail posted:The common energy is racism in america The common energy is hatred. It's up to politicians to channel it towards some particular object.
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Bishounen Bonanza posted:Yep. Don't look at Trumps views. Look at what Rudy and Chris Christy want to see what's gonna happen. Yup. Regardless of himself he's going to put some real monsters into power that will gently caress up stuff severely either due to active malice or general incompetence. The response from the totally just concerned about their local economy Republicans that elected him will be *shrug* "OH WELL!"
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Bishounen Bonanza posted:Yep. Don't look at Trumps views. Look at what Rudy and Chris Christy want to see what's gonna happen. If Rudy Guillianni is appointed to a major cabinet position, I swear...
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corn in the bible posted:which cabinet position is in charge of bridges? because i think a certain new jerseyan might fit the bill Christie for Secretary of Hey Fatass Where's My McChicken?
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C2C - 2.0 posted:If Rudy Guillianni is appointed to a major cabinet position, I swear... hes gonna be AG
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steinrokkan posted:The common energy is hatred. It's up to politicians to channel it towards some particular object. I don't think you can magically wipe out 500 years of racism with "hey guys hate this instead" no matter your level of charisma.
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Glazier posted:FYG(or expect to get)M They'll certainly get theirs. Whether or not what they got satisfies them is another thing. And the store has pretty much a no-return policy until the term of contract is over.
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Dr. VooDoo posted:Pence and others fed him lines to say. They'll make bills to open up wildlife and national parks for oil/mining for him to rubber stamp and have him make the EPA worthless and kill any green energy projects. Nothing that's getting out through the next four years is gonna be a Trump brain child. He has no idea how to create bills. His ego will he stroked by the GOP then something will be given to him to sign. The people clamoring for an anti-establishment president have ended up handing the GOP the perfect gift for their establishment whims. There will be some vanity projects of Trump's to placate him for sure but the big ones will all be GOP created for him Even Pence I have no idea how anyone could ever make coal a viable business model again.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:As far as I'm aware, I'm not sure he can end the war on coal. Best I can tell most of the stuff he promised is unfeasible. That's where the danger lies. Trump already has a strongman personality cult to his die hard followers. As poo poo gets steadily worse it won't be strongman Trump failing it'll be traitorous elements in society holding him back and holding back America becoming great again. Maybe we'll see the HUAC come back in a bigly way to weed out the undesirables holding back Trump's glorious great America (it'll just be coincidence all those investigated happen to be in the GOPs way) greatn posted:Even Pence I have no idea how anyone could ever make coal a viable business model again. They can't and they know they can't. But strongman Trump says he, and only he, can make coal profitable again. A nice line to get people hurt by its down turn to vote him in. He'll gut the EPA and protections of threatened species land and nature preserves and without those shackles of big government holding them back coal will surge back. Of course oil and fracking will win out on that so something else must be holding strongman Trump back! Maybe it'll be things like workers rights and safety that are just straining those plucky little coal companies too much? Dr. VooDoo fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Nov 9, 2016 |
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corn in the bible posted:hes gonna be AG Trump as President is scary. His other cabinet position appointees are disturbing. Rudy as AG is Lovecraftian.
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corn in the bible posted:which cabinet position is in charge of bridges? because i think a certain new jerseyan might fit the bill Transportation.
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JFairfax posted:yeah I don't get it, socially the hispanic population has a lot more in common with the religious conservative right. Blacks are religiously conservative too, but Democrats rely on both groups being driven into their tent by the GOP blatant hate for them. Hell, one of the biggest issues for blacks was to please not be gunned down police and Democrats don't have a policy to stop that. I am kind of surprised Latinos voting Trump somehow think Trump and Republicans distinguish between Latinos. It is the same to the Republicans.
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Lightning Knight posted:I don't think you can magically wipe out 500 years of racism with "hey guys hate this instead" no matter your level of charisma. Reminds me of people in the climate change thread who say that if you can't undo all of global warming in one giant swoop, you shouldn't do anything at all.
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jwang posted:They'll certainly get theirs. Whether or not what they got satisfies them is another thing. And the store has pretty much a no-return policy until the term of contract is over. There's going to be a lot of dummies crying "but I thought this didn't apply to meee..." in the next few years.
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Michigan: Clinton down 13k votes. Pennsylvania: Clinton down 68k votes Wisconsin: Clinton down 29k votes That's 110,000 votes out of total ~13,000,000 cast in those three states, less than 1%. All three of these states have gone blue in every presidential election since 1992. While it's worth thinking about why she lost Florida or North Carolina or whatever, those were always swing states. The relatively tiny marginal vote in these three usually blue states is why she lost instead of squeaking by in an unexpectedly close EC win. There are definitely some lessons to take away from this, both for the next Democratic campaign and for left-leaning voters in "safe" blue states. I'd hoped we'd learned them in 2000 already, but I guess 16 years is a long time. Never, ever take anything for granted in politics.
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C2C - 2.0 posted:I don't disagree at all. But it kinds of turns the whole "you must live among them & find common ground" argument on its head. The "you must live among them & find common ground" argument is crap, honestly. Look at how much "being nice to people and demographics who didn't support him" Trump did! All I can see in that argument is a clear double standard, where the right can be openly insulting against racial minorities, religious minorities, women, and LBGTs with basically no penalties or reprecussions...but the left are awful people if they dare to be anything less than one hundred percent in tune with the needs of uneducated white males.
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PST posted:He hasn't but this is what got said to the NYTimes Gingrich is a hawkish interventionist at odds with Trump's campaign rhetoric so that actually makes me feel better about the US Alliance system and Flynn is a Democrat who worked with the Obama administration so those aren't the worst picks if your fear if full-scale unilateral withdrawal from the world and from the US Alliance networks
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