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dubzee
Oct 23, 2008



Haier posted:

We got our own Duterte. I wonder how many countries will now have their own america.jpg chat threads going.

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Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
on the plus side of trump winning china is probably hosed

twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

Get on my level

Darkman Fanpage posted:

on the plus side of trump winning china is probably hosed

I don't get the connection

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

twerking on the railroad posted:

I don't get the connection

He said he wants to slap Chinese products with large tariffs.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Trade War Baby!

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Also label them as a currency manipulator.

Dicky mouse
Apr 11, 2008

"No No Not like that....Thats just silly"

LingcodKilla posted:

Also label them as a currency manipulator.

LOL he wont

Many Many new building will go up with the trump name in China, and of course the licensing fee's straight to him.

China can buy what ever it wants now.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Buh buh he's a man of his word and it was in his 100 day plan!

You don't go back on your 100 day plan!

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010

Blistex posted:

*I thought that she meant "pecker" but apparently it's an old-fashioned term for a baby's penis. :(
:lol:

P-Mack
Nov 10, 2007

"When the students poured into Tiananmen Square, the Chinese government almost blew it. Then they were vicious, they were horrible, but they put it down with strength. That shows you the power of strength. Our country is right now perceived as weak ... as being spit on by the rest of the world"

Our new president.

fish and chips and dip
Feb 17, 2010

Dicky mouse posted:

LOL he wont

Many Many new building will go up with the trump name in China, and of course the licensing fee's straight to him.

China can buy what ever it wants now.

Would that fly in the US though? From what I understand a lot of powerful and established figures in US politics can't stand Trump, and would a move like that not be serving corruption charges on a silver platter to the anti-trump faction?

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


quote:

hi, guys - my stay in chengdu from 10.12. - 15.12. is getting nearer.
two questions: (snip boring question details}

Chinese reply: chengdu?

This one's a Chinese OP, in a group for people living in Chengdu:

quote:

Is there anyone live in ChengDu?

fish and chips and dip
Feb 17, 2010
I had something wonderful happen today. In my office building we have three elevators, one for odd floors, one for even floors and one that stops at every floor, all three are synced so if you can't call the even or odd elevator it's either all or none. I was going back to my office after lunch in the odd numbered elevator, it stopped at 11th floor, and two young women got on then they got off at the 13th floor and took the stairs down to the 12th floor.

Mimesweeper
Mar 11, 2009

Smellrose

fish and chips and dip posted:

I had something wonderful happen today. In my office building we have three elevators, one for odd floors, one for even floors and one that stops at every floor, all three are synced so if you can't call the even or odd elevator it's either all or none. I was going back to my office after lunch in the odd numbered elevator, it stopped at 11th floor, and two young women got on then they got off at the 13th floor and took the stairs down to the 12th floor.

What would you do, walk up the stairs? It's the drat future, we walk downhill both ways.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

fish and chips and dip posted:

I had something wonderful happen today. In my office building we have three elevators, one for odd floors, one for even floors and one that stops at every floor, all three are synced so if you can't call the even or odd elevator it's either all or none. I was going back to my office after lunch in the odd numbered elevator, it stopped at 11th floor, and two young women got on then they got off at the 13th floor and took the stairs down to the 12th floor.

hey where in china do you live right now

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

LingcodKilla posted:

I'm liking this Indian guy.

I'm pretty sure he likes to kill muslims a lot, but to be fair to him so do most indians.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Darkman Fanpage posted:

on the plus side of trump winning china is probably hosed

China was hosed no matter who won, the dominoes have already been falling for years now

Obama's firm patience in dealing with the China Bubble will be looked back at as a work of political genius.

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

Fojar38 posted:

China was hosed no matter who won, the dominoes have already been falling for years now

Obama's firm patience in dealing with the China Bubble will be looked back at as a work of political genius.

Donald Trump will go down in the history books as the man who destroyed China, like Reagan and the cold war.

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
there was an awesome street fight today and i got some pictures. was really intense, a young guy wearing a puffy jacket started beating an old guy with his own hat. he also took some papers off the ground and shoved them in the old guy's mouth. by the end of it there were probably like 60 people watching, it was great. i'll try to post the pics in the next few days.

a policeman showed up in the middle of it and was like "did you guys call me?" and the guy beating the old guy was like "no" and he said "what are you doing with that old man?" and the young guy said "he tried to cheat me with a fake ticket" and the police officer was like "oh ok" and just walked away and the young guy continued beating the elderly man lmao

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


The Great Autismo! posted:

a policeman showed up in the middle of it and was like "did you guys call me?" and the guy beating the old guy was like "no" and he said "what are you doing with that old man?" and the young guy said "he tried to cheat me with a fake ticket" and the police officer was like "oh ok" and just walked away and the young guy continued beating the elderly man lmao

I support this cop's decision

fish and chips and dip
Feb 17, 2010

caberham posted:

hey where in china do you live right now

I live in the dystopian neon hellscape that is Shanghai.

fish and chips and dip
Feb 17, 2010

Nanomashoes posted:

Donald Trump will go down in the history books as the man who destroyed China, like Reagan and the cold war.

If China is collapses on Xi Jinping's watch, I'll have a smug poo poo eating grin for until I die.

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax

Dicky mouse
Apr 11, 2008

"No No Not like that....Thats just silly"

fish and chips and dip posted:

Would that fly in the US though? From what I understand a lot of powerful and established figures in US politics can't stand Trump, and would a move like that not be serving corruption charges on a silver platter to the anti-trump faction?

I know this isn't the best thread for it.

But trump was screaming the FBI was after him because of Hilary, the Election was fixed. I heard just today about how the election is fixed, it just didn't work. The media is all for in for Hilary. blah blah blah.

So who is gonna investigate trump for corruption? The Feds? he'll have a lot of sway with them as POTUS, The corrupt liberal media? Congress?

All the other bullshit aside, The fact that trumps name is his product means that almost any country can put money right into his business, that he'll claim his son is running so he doesn't know anything about it.....omg that sounds so Chinese.

Part of me hopes he just goes full cartoon and steals fort knox leaving not calling us losers, while the first lady talking about trying to find moose and squirrel.

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax
Corrupt local politicians are sitting around outside with tables full of black money to "loan" to farmers, hoping when/if they repay it all back it will become white money for them. They are loaning stacks of 3 lakhs rupees (300 thousand rupees), which is an amount that is nearly impossible for any farmer to ever pay back in his lifetime. LMAO at these bastards.

Dicky mouse
Apr 11, 2008

"No No Not like that....Thats just silly"
so how does it work? its like forever loan sharking?

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

Haier posted:

Corrupt local politicians are sitting around outside with tables full of black money to "loan" to farmers, hoping when/if they repay it all back it will become white money for them. They are loaning stacks of 3 lakhs rupees (300 thousand rupees), which is an amount that is nearly impossible for any farmer to ever pay back in his lifetime. LMAO at these bastards.



Hope the taxman pays attention to this and brings all of them over for questioning

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

Dicky mouse posted:

so how does it work? its like forever loan sharking?

serfdom

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax

caberham posted:

Hope the taxman pays attention to this and brings all of them over for questioning
"Bhai, maybe this will help you forget all about this little problem. We don't want any trouble."
*Pulls out a wad of devalued cash*

On topic:
All over the world, people with ill-gained funds tend to sink them into property and real estate. Indians and Cihnese with black money are generally no exception, but the difference between Indians and Chinese is that it's easier for the Chinese to buy property abroad and transfer huge amounts of uncounted-for money for that purpose than it is for Indians (Even though Xi is trying to crack down on it). Unfortunately for the Western world, then we get a glut of tuhao and people with stolen money crowding places and forcing locals out.

Haier fucked around with this message at 09:35 on Nov 10, 2016

Jimmy Little Balls
Aug 23, 2009

fish and chips and dip posted:

I had something wonderful happen today. In my office building we have three elevators, one for odd floors, one for even floors and one that stops at every floor, all three are synced so if you can't call the even or odd elevator it's either all or none. I was going back to my office after lunch in the odd numbered elevator, it stopped at 11th floor, and two young women got on then they got off at the 13th floor and took the stairs down to the 12th floor.

The building my company in has some big school which has classrooms on multiple floors so all day you get kids taking the elevator to go up or down 1 floor. Chinese people also don't seem to understand that the big flashing up arrow above the door to the elevator means it is going up so nearly every time I'm in the elevator someone will barge their way into it and then freak out because it isn't going in the direction they wanted. Bowling through crowds of idiot children who try and get in as soon as the door opens is good stress relief though.

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax

Jimmy Little Balls posted:

The building my company in has some big school which has classrooms on multiple floors so all day you get kids taking the elevator to go up or down 1 floor. Chinese people also don't seem to understand that the big flashing up arrow above the door to the elevator means it is going up so nearly every time I'm in the elevator someone will barge their way into it and then freak out because it isn't going in the direction they wanted. Bowling through crowds of idiot children who try and get in as soon as the door opens is good stress relief though.
Where I work is a big apartment in an apartment building with 30 floors. My boss owns so many places that she used one of her houses as an office instead of renting a specific place. Across the street is a middle school and down the road a high school and there's an elementary school somewhere. Every day at noon, and then again at two and also four PM is insane pandemonium of kids and lovely grandparents clogging every hallway and elevator. The old people are worse than the kids, because they bum rush the elevator door as soon as it's open before anyone can exit, like it's going to leave without them.
Many of them don't control the kids at all, even if the kid is doing something bad like hitting other kids and making them upset. There's this one poo poo I used to see every day with his grandpa and the kid would kick and punch other kids who are big enough to go alone. He'll pull on their backpacks as they are getting off, or hit all the buttons so the elevator stops at every floor. They'd get angry and then he'd run back to gramps, who would say nothing and do nothing. One day he was running full speed through some of those plastic air conditioner doors, coming right at me while I was about to walk through them. I had enough time to either accept this kid at mach one into my crotch, or defend myself. I turned sideways and hip-checked him right into a wall. He bounced much farther and harder than I thought. He was on the ground, staring at me all googly eyed and the grandpa just stood there saying nothing, and then I smiled at him and he got up and left.

There are a lot of people that don't understand the up/down arrows, but the thing that gets me is the crazed "door close" button mashing. I have yet to be in an elevator in China where this isn't the case.
They mash the gently caress out of that button, and I can see it's broken in all but one of the elevators. It saves them about one full second of time if it actually works, but it usually never does. They mash it even while the doors are closing. Whenever I get on I never touch it, and there's someone else in there they sigh very loudly and go to pound on it while the doors are already closing. It's the same as that nervous "OMG OMG OMG OMG" that people in the supermarket line get when you're not shoulder-to-shoulder with the person in front of you, shoving all their stuff out of the way to make room for yours. People get so on edge when you don't press that loving button that the whole vibe of the elevator changes immediately. They're losing precious single-digit seconds of their life and its all your fault, even though they're facedown in their phones regardless of where they are going or what they are doing. I will always gladly let them have their panic attack of the day.

One more elevator gripe:
I have found that many, many men with a friend or partner like to use it as a time to complain about foreigners. I know it's on purpose and it's dumb as hell, but it always, always begins the exact same way:

*Overly gesticulates looking the foreigner up and down*
*Big, loud inhalation through the teeth, followed by teeth sucking, followed by tsk-tsking*
*Another deep breath and more teeth sucking*
"WAIGUOREN blah blah ZHONGGUOREN blah blah *teeth sucking or tsking* WAIGUOREN blah blah ZHONGGUA blah blah MEIGUO blah *teeth sucking or tsking* WAIGUOREN blah ZHONGGUOREN"

The "blah blahs" are always something comparing how Chinese are better at this or that, or they can't understand why we are known for this or that. I've been with friends or my boss when this happens, the guys not knowing we're together, and then someone will tell them to shut up and they get all face-lossed and quiet.

The other variation, when they think they are truly safe:

*Overly gesticulates looking the foreigner up and down*
*Big, loud inhalation through the teeth, followed by teeth sucking, followed by tsk-tsking*
*Another deep breath and more teeth sucking*
*Laughes*
*Moves away quickly and goes back to play phone*

Whenever I hear teeth sucking now I immediately know some whining is going to follow.

MisterOblivious
Mar 17, 2010

by sebmojo

Haier posted:

Corrupt local politicians are sitting around outside with tables full of black money to "loan" to farmers, hoping when/if they repay it all back it will become white money for them. They are loaning stacks of 3 lakhs rupees (300 thousand rupees), which is an amount that is nearly impossible for any farmer to ever pay back in his lifetime. LMAO at these bastards.

Can you give us, like, the scale?

Like "3 lahks" is "more than a farmer could pay back in a lifetime." But what is, like, their yearly wage? What's a "cr" of rupees? I get that a "cr" of rupees takes up more space than most goon apartments... It's, like, $150,000??

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


So post-Brexit UK reaffirms the 'golden era' in relations with Beijing! https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2016/nov/10/may-hails-golden-era-in-relations-with-china-politics-live

The Grauniad posted:

Theresa May has reaffirmed her commitment to maintaining the “golden era” in Britain’s relations with China as the government hosts talks aimed at boosting Beijing’s investment in the UK’s infrastructure.

Chancellor Philip Hammond is meeting a Chinese delegation headed by vice premier Ma Kai in London for the eighth UK-China Economic and Financial Dialogue as ministers seek to underline that Britain remains “open for business” following the vote for Brexit.

The move will be seen as a fresh attempt to reassure the Chinese after a rocky start to relations under May.

One of her first acts on becoming prime minister last July was to order a review of the project to build the new Hinkley Point C nuclear power plant - part-financed by the Chinese - to the intense annoyance of Beijing.

But having finally given the green light to the plant last September, May has again echoed the deal’s architect, former chancellor George Osborne, in speaking of a “golden era” in Sino-UK relations.
Congrats, British goons, your country has been ripped out of the EU and is being sold piecemeal to uncle Xi without a single flinch :allears:

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

MisterOblivious posted:

Can you give us, like, the scale?

Like "3 lahks" is "more than a farmer could pay back in a lifetime." But what is, like, their yearly wage? What's a "cr" of rupees? I get that a "cr" of rupees takes up more space than most goon apartments... It's, like, $150,000??

1 lakh is 10^5, 1 crore is 10^7

Bubblyblubber
Nov 17, 2014

MisterOblivious posted:

Can you give us, like, the scale?

Like "3 lahks" is "more than a farmer could pay back in a lifetime." But what is, like, their yearly wage? What's a "cr" of rupees? I get that a "cr" of rupees takes up more space than most goon apartments... It's, like, $150,000??

Look, the firangi can count in hindi!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4bmZ1gRqCc

Lahk is 100,000 and crore is 10,000,000. So 3 lahks is 300,000 ₹, divided by the average yearly indian income of around 20,000 ₹ that's 15 years of black money. 1 USD buys you 66 ₹, so a pile of 300 grand in rupees is worth around 4,5000 USD, or about as much as this 1999 Pontiac.

And farmers probably make less than the average.

Money black, so what

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Chinese men over 35ish all are apparently gay foot fetishists since they stare at my feet constantly. Like will spend literal minutes staring with occasional looks up and down me.

MisterOblivious
Mar 17, 2010

by sebmojo

Haier posted:

Where I work is a big apartment in an apartment building with 30 floors. My boss owns so many places that she used one of her houses as an office instead of renting a specific place. Across the street is a middle school and down the road a high school and there's an elementary school somewhere. Every day at noon, and then again at two and also four PM is insane pandemonium of kids and lovely grandparents clogging every hallway and elevator. The old people are worse than the kids, because they bum rush the elevator door as soon as it's open before anyone can exit, like it's going to leave without them.
Many of them don't control the kids at all, even if the kid is doing something bad like hitting other kids and making them upset. There's this one poo poo I used to see every day with his grandpa and the kid would kick and punch other kids who are big enough to go alone. He'll pull on their backpacks as they are getting off, or hit all the buttons so the elevator stops at every floor. They'd get angry and then he'd run back to gramps, who would say nothing and do nothing. One day he was running full speed through some of those plastic air conditioner doors, coming right at me while I was about to walk through them. I had enough time to either accept this kid at mach one into my crotch, or defend myself. I turned sideways and hip-checked him right into a wall. He bounced much farther and harder than I thought. He was on the ground, staring at me all googly eyed and the grandpa just stood there saying nothing, and then I smiled at him and he got up and left.

There are a lot of people that don't understand the up/down arrows, but the thing that gets me is the crazed "door close" button mashing. I have yet to be in an elevator in China where this isn't the case.
They mash the gently caress out of that button, and I can see it's broken in all but one of the elevators. It saves them about one full second of time if it actually works, but it usually never does. They mash it even while the doors are closing. Whenever I get on I never touch it, and there's someone else in there they sigh very loudly and go to pound on it while the doors are already closing. It's the same as that nervous "OMG OMG OMG OMG" that people in the supermarket line get when you're not shoulder-to-shoulder with the person in front of you, shoving all their stuff out of the way to make room for yours. People get so on edge when you don't press that loving button that the whole vibe of the elevator changes immediately. They're losing precious single-digit seconds of their life and its all your fault, even though they're facedown in their phones regardless of where they are going or what they are doing. I will always gladly let them have their panic attack of the day.

One more elevator gripe:
I have found that many, many men with a friend or partner like to use it as a time to complain about foreigners. I know it's on purpose and it's dumb as hell, but it always, always begins the exact same way:



Ahhh Elevator gripes, I'm getting so very used to those. And trains too! I may not be in China but I live in a building and state where most people weren't born in a country that has those and nobody knows how to use elevators/trains.

A: I'm 6'4", and wide
B: I'm exiting the elevator or train with a bike
C: My 6'4" body is exiting this elevator or train pushing a bike and YOU ARE NOT GETTING ON THIS ELEVATOR OR TRAIN UNTIL I EXIT

It shouldn't be very difficult for people to understand but I will run you down if try to walk onto the elevator the moment it opens instead of waiting to see if somebody is getting off. I run into strollers or shopping carts or children trying to bolt onto the elevator on a regular basis. We've got a dog and it requires a specific command to even get on the elevator, just to make sure everybody is off the elevator before we instruct the dog to get on. If a dog can learn such standard interactions it shouldn't be difficult for people to learn them.

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

Grand Fromage posted:

Chinese men over 35ish all are apparently gay foot fetishists since they stare at my feet constantly. Like will spend literal minutes staring with occasional looks up and down me.

creepy and intriguing

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax

MisterOblivious posted:

Can you give us, like, the scale?

Like "3 lahks" is "more than a farmer could pay back in a lifetime." But what is, like, their yearly wage? What's a "cr" of rupees? I get that a "cr" of rupees takes up more space than most goon apartments... It's, like, $150,000??

1 Lakh = 100 thousand rupees ($1502 USD right now)
1 Crore = 100 lakhs, or 10 million rupees ($150,289 USD)

It's an old system of counting they use from Sanskrit and some old Vedic texts, numbers going down to the atomic level for an unknown reason, which means VIMANAS, BABY.

They don't call them Millionaires there, they call them Crorepatis. In Slumdog Millionaire, it was "Who wants to be a Crorepati." Everything is counted in lakhs and crores and it can get very confusing to a non-Indian when you're trying to covert it in your head when they start saying like "10 crore 35 lakh."

Anyway, farmers:
http://www.thehindu.com/data/does-it-pay-to-be-a-farmer-in-india/article6713980.ece

Says they make over Rs. 6k per month for a farming household (like 5 people in a hut), but the expenses dissolve quickly and I feel that 6k is kind of generous for many of those farmers. The problem is that predatory lending is standard there, and much like US farmers, a lot of people are forever in debt due to buying very expensive machines, etc. Look at the graphs on the link, some of those farmer households are at 93% debt. They lose money like anything and I have read that some farmers without children (or those who died, etc.) were committing suicide over small sums like 3k rupees and the harrassment the lenders were giving.

A common thing is that developers or land-grabbers will go in and offer these people like 1/6th or 1/3rd what the land is worth in immediate black cash in exchange for the title. Many of the farmers will sell and then go buy dumb poo poo and blow through it all in a year and then have to go back and work as farmhands for other people or even on their old lands. My friend had a couple dozen cows and was very into the scene of how these farmers would screw themselves over, or be screwed over by others.
It cost him around 2k per month to feed his cows, and he could make about 6k per month selling the milk (I was a big customer, buying about 1k per month at 30 rupees per liter). He was doing fine because it was just a hobby and he had other money coming in and he was a devout Shiavite Hindu and loved cows, but for trying to take care of a family and pay for education and other costs, it would be pretty rough if you had to divide 4k per month between multiple people and pay back a predatory loan.

Someone on reddit r/india did the math and figured out that something like a crore in notes stacked up takes about as much space as a public toilet stall. Many of the black money dealers have multiple properties and it's not hard to think they have cash stacked in locked rooms in all of them. Buying many big purchases in India are usually done with black money, or partially through black money. Even buying a home appliance can be done this way if you don't get a warranty on it, meaning there is no receipt or proof of purchase. The society has been built on this and it needs a change. Tax is generally included in the price, but many times people will sell at regular price and then just keep the tax portion of it and pretend the sale never happened.
There's a million ways to earn black money in India and not get caught, so this whole initiative is a huge deal. I was telling one of my friends on the phone about it the other day and she was laughing the entire time because she immediately thought of all these people she knew there that are getting screwed hard right now.

Edit: Politicians can win tons of votes by going into farmer and poor areas and passing out 50s and 100s notes in black money a few times. They lose nothing and will gain so much more if they get elected. It's so god drat corrupt, it's almost comical sometimes. I have friends who are part of local government in tier 2 and 3 cities of millions of people and I've been sitting there where they are greeted and someone plops down a stack of cash or drops it into their pockets like it was nothing. I went with one to a dinner and under our plates was money. I have a friend that worked in Bollywood for 30 years and some of the poo poo he told me about how corrupt it is (and the starlets) is mind-boggling, but almost no different from these same politics and industries in first-world countries.

Haier fucked around with this message at 12:13 on Nov 10, 2016

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Xerxes17
Feb 17, 2011

MisterOblivious posted:

We've got a dog and it requires a specific command to even get on the elevator, just to make sure everybody is off the elevator before we instruct the dog to get on. If a dog can learn such standard interactions it shouldn't be difficult for people to learn them.

Dogs have a surprising amount of empathy for humans.

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