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PhazonLink posted:It's a bit tinhat, but wha are the chances Putin installs some of his peeps in Donnie's cabinet or clos to him, haven't really seen any post about that other than East Europe falling and stuff. {{{Ivanka}}} Trump
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jwang posted:Because progress is always painful, and unless you want this progress to stay, it needs to be reinforced into our lizard brains by pain. The brief 8 years of the Bush administration apparently isn't painful enough, what with the recession and housing bubble; so this time I'm hoping that enough bad poo poo gets pushed through that people realize that touching the hot stove is bad, that letting a fire burn out of control will cause massive damage. This lesson needs to be taught in a fashion that tells the whole of US that the policies that benefits only a section of the nation is always a terrible policy, and instead should encompass the whole nation. The lesson that divides "us" and "others" is an entirely insane idea that only makes this great nation worse, and is anathema to progress needs to be seared into our historic conscience like the idea that Nazism, fascism, totalitarianism are TERRIBLE things, and letting little evils like curbing the rights of a minority is simply the first step towards that greater one. So that future generations can look back and say, "This is where America had its darkest hour, where they let the evils of the past rise again. Thank god we've vanquished that demon, and has remained ever vigilant for its return." Clinton caused the market crash and housing bubble dude
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Polygynous posted:Michelle It is an interesting idea, but from the rumors she wants nothing to do with DC after January.
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Glimm posted:The truth hurts. Trump supporters are mostly backwater hicks, and pointing that out was not enough to stop him. Don't worry, trump will make you a believer when he wins again in 2020 
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Democrats can't actually obstruct anything with no branch of government. The worst they can do is what the Republicans did before and object to any suspension of standard order. That would make every vote take at least 3 days. Other than that, they are totally powerless. The Republicans successfully stole a Supreme Court vacancy too, so the Dems can't even rely on the court as a hail mary.
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via posted:A complete reorganization of the national Democrats, firing of every one of the top 50 people in the DNC, and an end to appeasement of the GOP. I say we start a Socialist party.
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Fojar38 posted:Why is everyone expecting the fillibuster to be nuked McConnell already said they would do it. Scott Walker also says that Paul Ryan is on board with sending bills to the Senate, using budget reconciliation, and passing them to President Trump with a simple majority.
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Fojar38 posted:Why is everyone expecting the fillibuster to be nuked Because Republicans are calling for it to be nuked. Scott Walker was most recent.
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Fojar38 posted:Why is everyone expecting the fillibuster to be nuked You can beat a filibuster with a supermajority, which the Republicans now have because the dems are dipshits
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Pollyanna posted:I say we start a Socialist party. Lol yeah that will catch on 
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Bryan posted:It is an interesting idea, but from the rumors she wants nothing to do with DC after January. That was my point. 
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:I sincerely hope Obama is the last democratic president. We need a new party. The Democratic Party is completely toxic. But the Republican party is even more toxic. I dunno, maybe you're right, burn both parties, burn everything. Except the people who suffer from that are never the people at the top only the people at the bottom. Are we all doomed?
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Quick Draw McGraw posted:You can beat a filibuster with a supermajority, which the Republicans now have because the dems are dipshits The Republicans don't have a supermajority in the senate. Also you don't need a supermajority to change the rules to remove the filibuster anyway. You should probably lurk more.
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legoman727 posted:So does anyone really think the take-away from this will be "we didn't go leftist enough" and not "oh look, it turns out Progressives don't vote, gently caress them." The remainder of the dems are probably going to run right hard after this, while progressive causes are buried as we try to rebuild the 2 to probably 8 years of republican fuckery. Well, Democratic politicians will have to choose between winning for the party or getting paid by big donors. Probably they will lean towards the latter
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jwang posted:Because progress is always painful, and unless you want this progress to stay, it needs to be reinforced into our lizard brains by pain. The brief 8 years of the Bush administration apparently isn't painful enough, what with the recession and housing bubble; so this time I'm hoping that enough bad poo poo gets pushed through that people realize that touching the hot stove is bad, that letting a fire burn out of control will cause massive damage. This lesson needs to be taught in a fashion that tells the whole of US that the policies that benefits only a section of the nation is always a terrible policy, and instead should encompass the whole nation. The lesson that divides "us" and "others" is an entirely insane idea that only makes this great nation worse, and is anathema to progress needs to be seared into our historic conscience like the idea that Nazism, fascism, totalitarianism are TERRIBLE things, and letting little evils like curbing the rights of a minority is simply the first step towards that greater one. So that future generations can look back and say, "This is where America had its darkest hour, where they let the evils of the past rise again. Thank god we've vanquished that demon, and has remained ever vigilant for its return." This is the most white liberal super privileged poo poo I've read today.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:McConnell already said they would do it. Scott Walker also says that Paul Ryan is on board with sending bills to the Senate, using budget reconciliation, and passing them to President Trump with a simple majority. Unless they expect to win complete control of the Senate for the rest of time (which maybe isn't that far off from the truth) it could boomerang on them. The second option is much safer. pocket pool fucked around with this message at 04:20 on Nov 10, 2016 |
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:McConnell already said they would do it. Scott Walker also says that Paul Ryan is on board with sending bills to the Senate, using budget reconciliation, and passing them to President Trump with a simple majority. uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh
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negromancer posted:This is the most white liberal super privileged poo poo I've read today. It reads like he's taking his shoes off by the side of a bridge Good thing that sticky is up
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jwang posted:Because progress is always painful, and unless you want this progress to stay, it needs to be reinforced into our lizard brains by pain. The brief 8 years of the Bush administration apparently isn't painful enough, what with the recession and housing bubble; so this time I'm hoping that enough bad poo poo gets pushed through that people realize that touching the hot stove is bad, that letting a fire burn out of control will cause massive damage. This lesson needs to be taught in a fashion that tells the whole of US that the policies that benefits only a section of the nation is always a terrible policy, and instead should encompass the whole nation. The lesson that divides "us" and "others" is an entirely insane idea that only makes this great nation worse, and is anathema to progress needs to be seared into our historic conscience like the idea that Nazism, fascism, totalitarianism are TERRIBLE things, and letting little evils like curbing the rights of a minority is simply the first step towards that greater one. So that future generations can look back and say, "This is where America had its darkest hour, where they let the evils of the past rise again. Thank god we've vanquished that demon, and has remained ever vigilant for its return." Real life isn't a movie the electorate at large doesn't learn a specific lesson the way an individual does.
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Quick Draw McGraw posted:Clinton caused the market crash and housing bubble dude This is you being facetious right? It's hard to tell sarcasm and such in purely text format. If you're entirely serious, then I don't know what to say. Any rebuttal I make would be construed as cherry picking facts, not doing enough research, or using biased sources. The only way to prove you wrong would to let the great social experiment of USA run itself into the ground, burning everything on its way down upon the fires of hatred fanned by the right. If that's a desirable outcome for me, then I need to check myself in to an asylum.
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Quick Draw McGraw posted:Well, Democratic politicians will have to choose between winning for the party or getting paid by big donors. Probably they will lean towards the latter You're such a middle school level troll, how would they keep getting "paid by donors" if they lose and have no power? you idiot
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negromancer posted:This is the most white liberal super privileged poo poo I've read today. Please give me a rebuttal, because I'm feeling super nihilistic right now. I sincerely welcome anything that can turn me away from this way of thinking. I'm seriously considering going in for counseling as is.
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:I sincerely hope Obama is the last democratic president. We need a new party. The Democratic Party is completely toxic.  starting a new party brbah what should I call it
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corn in the bible posted:btw democrats will never win another election again We're going to see a new party system come out of all this. Mark my words.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:But the Republican party is even more toxic. Only if you're an illegal immigrant or a crooked politician If not then you're fine enjoy the fruits of The new trump era
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jwang posted:Please give me a rebuttal, because I'm feeling super nihilistic right now. I sincerely welcome anything that can turn me away from this way of thinking. I'm seriously considering going in for counseling as is. Nothing you care about matters and if you are rich and white life will be perfectly fine no matter what happens to the rest of the country Also hitler had some good ideas
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Kilroy posted:
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jwang posted:Please give me a rebuttal, because I'm feeling super nihilistic right now. I sincerely welcome anything that can turn me away from this way of thinking. I'm seriously considering going in for counseling as is. If you're hurting and considering it, go for counseling. I'm swearing off this thread again, but seriously: If you are having mental health issues get help. There should be no shame in it. I'm doing the same. Counseling has helped me through some awful times in my life, and no-one should be ashamed or feel weak for asking for treatment when they're hurting.
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legoman727 posted:So does anyone really think the take-away from this will be "we didn't go leftist enough" and not "oh look, it turns out Progressives don't vote, gently caress them." The remainder of the dems are probably going to run right hard after this, while progressive causes are buried as we try to rebuild the 2 to probably 8 years of republican fuckery. That would guarantee the end of the Democrats. I feel like they've only lasted as long as they have because they were ostensibly left enough that decent people would begrudgingly vote for them over the far-right insanity that is the Republicans. But people this year realized they're not different enough to really care.
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Quick Draw McGraw posted:Clinton caused the market crash and housing bubble dude get your facts straight
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My Linux Rig posted:Only if you're an illegal immigrant or a crooked politician Low, low effort.
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Fojar38 posted:Why is everyone expecting the fillibuster to be nuked Because with a Republican President, majorities in both House and Senate, and the ability to make a Conservative SCOTUS a thing, it just makes their job easier.
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jwang posted:Please give me a rebuttal, because I'm feeling super nihilistic right now. I sincerely welcome anything that can turn me away from this way of thinking. I'm seriously considering going in for counseling as is. Grab a hold of yourself man. Embracing nihilism isn't the alright thing to do lol
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Kilroy posted:no that was carter, clinton hollowed out the rust belt when he conceived of, wrote, signed and then implemented nafta Let's be fair: he almost certainly didn't conceive of or write it
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My Linux Rig posted:Well you know the whole trying to bully people into voting for your party didn't work so maybe they should be a little more open to starting a dialogue at least You didn't even win the popular vote sociopath. We have no reason to treat with you.
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VROOM VROOM posted:That would guarantee the end of the Democrats. I feel like they've only lasted as long as they have because they were ostensibly left enough that decent people would begrudgingly vote for them over the far-right insanity that is the Republicans. But people this year realized they're not different enough to really care. If this was the takeway by ordinary people, then ordinary people are loving idiots.
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Pollyanna posted:communist do we still care about optics, do we still say that word - anyway bad optics I want something with "Left" or "Leftist" in it like "American Left Party" but the alliteration there is bad it's gotta be punchy but describe our goals reasonable well which is full communism now, also the animal's gonna be a bald eagle so we can get out in front of the patriotism stuff
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:Grab a hold of yourself man. Embracing nihilism isn't the alright thing to do lol Say what you want about the tenets of Aryzing dude, at least it's an ethos.
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