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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:2006, 2008, 2010, and 2014 have all been massive wave elections against the party in charge, with 2016 not technically being a wave but certainly feeling like one. It's not a wave against the party. It's a huge thunderclap against the Federal government and liberal elites as a whole. quote:Donald loving Trump and the GOP aren't going to fix that. They will have the Presidency, the House, the Senate, and the SCOTUS -- all elected by the people scorned by the Democratic party. Please explain how the Democratic party is going to build furniture factories in North Carolina. Where's the capital coming from? Who is going to run it? How is this factory's products going to compete with cheaper Chinese products? Won't the factory contribute to climate change, accelerating the death of the planet?
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Corky Romanovsky posted:This relates to the BookFace image post "If you voted for Trump, tell your LGBT, Muslim, women, etc. friends why they don't matter." When I mentioned that the wording may be a bit harsh, and that someone may have voted for Trump because they prioritized another issue ahead of those groups, their response only imagined that other issue was "gently caress the system". It may have been that reason for many, but... If you voted for Trump you hate women, the disabled, and minorities, period, full stop, sorry You also hate gays and the transgendered Sorry! Don't vote for a literal white supremacist and rapist calling for active genocide next time! Your own self centered bullshit reasons for voting don't Trump the fact that Trump ran on the platform he did (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Corky Romanovsky posted:This relates to the BookFace image post "If you voted for Trump, tell your LGBT, Muslim, women, etc. friends why they don't matter." When I mentioned that the wording may be a bit harsh, and that someone may have voted for Trump because they prioritized another issue ahead of those groups, their response only imagined that other issue was "gently caress the system". It may have been that reason for many, but... it's pretty reasonable to be loving furious that people got heart eyes for some extremely blatant lies and proceeded to put an existential threat to anyone who isn't a straight white male into the white house
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Wyld Thang posted:Please explain how the Democratic party is going to build furniture factories in North Carolina. Where's the capital coming from? Who is going to run it? How is this factory's products going to compete with cheaper Chinese products? Won't the factory contribute to climate change, accelerating the death of the planet? OK, please explain how Trump is going to do those things
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Nov 10, 2016 16:55
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sportsgenius86 posted:I never said millenials weren't struggling. A lot of them are. The ones that are don't happen to be the ones driving the grassroots effort for the party right now because they were pushed out by the people I'm talking about. LOL if you think Dunham is grassroots for the Dems. *cranes neck to all of the young people who for the first time got involved with the primary process and GOTV for Bernie*
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Mirthless posted:If you voted for Trump you hate women, the disabled, and minorities, period, full stop, sorry um excuse me don't use such strong language! They just don't care! Totally different!
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HannibalBarca posted:I'm worried that this is correct and it filtered up, in various forms, to the top of the Clinton campaign, which massively failed to make arguments that would have supplanted their ultimately completely worthless GOTV campaign. There's a lot to dissect here. I think it's exactly what happened. To me, it seems that Hillary became so obsessed with being a living superhero to these people that basking in the idolatry became the primary focus, which in turn led to the neglect of the people that caused her the election. It's what led to the hosed up polling bullshit. They focused on a subset of the electorate and that's why the flawed polling seemed so believable and why she didn't visit Wisconsin in the last six months but was able to stand on big stages with rich celebrities who are similarly idolized and also have nothing in common with the bottom sections of her party.
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I really hope Obama doesn't just gently caress off and gives some support to Our Revolution or something similar. We need those grassroots infrastructure now more than ever.
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Mirthless posted:If you voted for Trump you hate women, the disabled, and minorities, period, full stop, sorry and the award for totally missing the point goes to mirthless, unsurprisingly
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LmaoTheKid posted:LOL if you think Dunham is grassroots for the Dems. does anyone actually know any dems who like Lena Dunham or think she's cool and good at all I don't personally know anyone who does not acknowledge that Lena Dunham is a child rapist and shitlord who does the movement more harm than good It's not like we can make her stop calling herself a democrat
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Mirthless posted:If you voted for Trump you hate women, the disabled, and minorities, period, full stop, sorry Thanks for posting a perfect example of everything that was wrong about the narrative!
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How do posters on both sides get the same anime red text avatar? Makes less sense than this election, amirite
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Karl Barks posted:and the award for totally missing the point goes to mirthless, unsurprisingly What's the point to miss? Frosted Flake posted:Thanks for posting a perfect example of everything that was wrong about the narrative! WHAT loving NARRATIVE? It's NOT A NARRATIVE TO POINT OUT THINGS SOMEBODY SAID AND DID
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Nov 10, 2016 16:57
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sportsgenius86 posted:I never said millenials weren't struggling. A lot of them are. The ones that are don't happen to be the ones driving the grassroots effort for the party right now because they were pushed out by the people I'm talking about. There are a ton of millenials who are struggling, and many of them are stuck in towns whose only factory closed 10 years ago. They never had a chance to go to college, they have zero job prospects, and they've watched as people in their age group have joined the salary class and go out to eat and go to the bar every weekend while sharing "10 ways the struggle is real!" articles on facebook and tweeting out "dumb fuckin hicks ruin everything!" from their new iPhones. Many of these people have embraced the nasty racism and homophobia of the GOP because at least the GOP is talking to them. The Democratic Party has spent the last decade shifting between ignoring them and sneering at them. Fiction posted:Yeah jimrob and the family trying to scrape by on 24000 a year were really all over those liberal campuses and on twitter and decided to not vote for Hillary because of SJWs Bingo.
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MAN THIS NARRATIVE THAT WE'RE ALL RACISTS IS UNFAIR GUYS NOW LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT HOW THE JEWS AND MEXICANS ARE MUSLIM RAPISTS
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Mirthless posted:Sorry! Don't vote for a literal white supremacist and rapist calling for active genocide next time! Your own self centered bullshit reasons for voting don't Trump the fact that Trump ran on the platform he did Actually they do, if the person voting is struggling to keep afloat himself, nobody is going to starve themselves to help some abstract other person. As for people who live comfortable lives and still can't find a shred of empathy, well, gently caress them.
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Also I'm pretty sure the 'grassroots level' of the democratic party includes a whole lot of latino union workers and black churchgoers and you know struggling white people, and so on and so forth.
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Nov 10, 2016 16:58
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Mirthless posted:What's the point to miss? i think u should double down on this message and just keep doubling down as the democratic party voter base shrinks to nothing
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LmaoTheKid posted:LOL if you think Dunham is grassroots for the Dems. The grassroots effort for Bernie was about Bernie and not the Democratic Party and if people were smart enough to realize this, maybe Trump wouldn't be President-Elect right now. Using "Lena Dunham" is probably a bit too much of a reduction given how much of an rear end she has turned out to be, but I'd like for anyone to try to tell me the most vocal groundswell in support of Hillary since primary season isn't basically a clone army of Dunham's character from Girls.
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Mirthless posted:MAN THIS NARRATIVE THAT WE'RE ALL RACISTS IS UNFAIR GUYS NOW LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT HOW THE JEWS AND MEXICANS ARE MUSLIM RAPISTS Have you ever left a city in your life?
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steinrokkan posted:Actually they do, if the person voting is struggling to keep afloat himself, nobody is going to starve themselves to help some abstract other person. Nobody is starving because of Obamacare and gently caress you if you think your retarded "economic anxiety" should come before being able to receive treatment for the actual anxiety disorder I have Some people can only lead comfortable lives because of the healthcare bill that is now going away because people thought it was a good idea to elect the guy who wants to round mexicans up into internment camps Don't cry to me because you get to live with the consequences of your lovely vote. gently caress you. You get to wear the same hood and sheet that the rest of the KKK wears for the next four years.
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Wyld Thang posted:It's not a wave against the party. It's a huge thunderclap against the Federal government and liberal elites as a whole. Oh word? Well poo poo better not even try talking to these people. They're probably too dumb to understand this anyway, right?
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Mirthless posted:Mister Fister, most people don't actually care about PC Gone Wrong. Your candidate won with a minority of the popular vote in an election where less than 30% of the population turned out. Just gently caress off with this poo poo. You're never going to live in an America where you can get away with bald racism anymore among your peers, whether or not Trump got elected. Who is 'my candidate' Mirthless? Are you seriously trying to say that because i'm not a fan of SJW culture that i'm a Trump voter, even though you know for certain that i'm a Bernie supporter? You don't have to be a racist to see how forcing trigger warnings on everything, censoring speakers/ideas you don't like, and making sure you use the correct pronoun (and holy poo poo are there a ton of them) for a particular otherwise you'll get eaten alive is off putting to a shitload of people.
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Mirthless posted:Nobody is starving because of Obamacare and gently caress you if you think your retarded "economic anxiety" should come before being able to receive treatment for the actual anxiety disorder I have People are literally going hungry right now because they can no logner afford their premiums. Obamacare might not have caused it, but it did nothing to help, and in fact is a net negative for many of the people it was supposed to help.
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Mirthless posted:Nobody is starving because of Obamacare and gently caress you if you think your retarded "economic anxiety" should come before being able to receive treatment for the actual anxiety disorder I have There are no poor, unemployed people between Los Angeles and New York, and because they don't exist, they couldn't have voted for Trump. Therefore only racists and billionaires voted for him. Also despite your epic meltdown, I didn't vote for Trump, lol.
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steinrokkan posted:Also who came up with the idea that if you criticize the financial system, you are a holocaust denying anti-semite hiding behind dog whistle signals, that wasn't a winning move, let me tell you. You can criticize the financial system! You're a holocaust denying anti-semite because you voted for Donald Trump, the holocaust denying anti-semite!
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Mirthless posted:cool she maybe should have tried talking about these things at some point instead of making every appearance on tv and every debate about her opponent During debates, she should have talked about it rather than just pointing people to her website. I doubt many people even looked at those pages after she mentioned them during actual debate time.
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Trump: My vp is Mike "Torture the Gays" Pence I'm going to go door to door to kick people out Women are an inconvencience for employers Grab'em by the pussy I'm gonna cut taxes for the rich I'm prob gonna take away your healthcare too Also I'll bring back jobs by <mumble mumble mumble> The military: this man can't be trusted to be commander in chief of the american military Nuke launchers: Please dear god don't do this Economists: Please help The most limp dicked liberals in the world: Um maybe don't say mean things about people that voted for him
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Mirthless posted:Nobody is starving because of Obamacare and gently caress you if you think your retarded "economic anxiety" should come before being able to receive treatment for the actual anxiety disorder I have nice ableist slur mirthless
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Mister Fister posted:Who is 'my candidate' Mirthless? Are you seriously trying to say that because i'm not a fan of SJW culture that i'm a Trump voter, even though you know for certain that i'm a Bernie supporter? You don't have to be a racist to see how forcing trigger warnings on everything, censoring speakers/ideas you don't like, and making sure you use the correct pronoun (and holy poo poo are there a ton of them) for a particular otherwise you'll get eaten alive is off putting to a shitload of people. I remember the specific quote that got you your red text, Mister Fister, if you didn't vote for Trump you were certainly glad to see him win (sadly, he will not force women to strip and parade them through the streets so you can shame them) Shadowhand00 posted:During debates, she should have talked about it rather than just pointing people to her website. I doubt many people even looked at those pages after she mentioned them during actual debate time. Yeah you see this is exactly what I mean, this is the kind of dumb poo poo she did. The conversation was always about Trump, it was rarely (if ever) about how she was actually going to do better than him. What a dumb way to cammpaign. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Yes a man who got fewer votes than Romney was buoyed by the racist vote that wasn't already firmly in the R column.
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Pomp posted:Trump: My vp is Mike "Torture the Gays" Pence man I don't know why you're spinning this narrative that Trump is a racist don't you know anything about ((((ECONOMIC ANXIETY))))
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Pomp posted:The most limp dicked liberals in the world: Um maybe don't say mean things about people that voted for him mmmm this post tastes like straw
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