uspol november: as it turns out they could not stump the trump

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > uspol november: as it turns out they could not stump the trump

«‹›594 »

straight up brolic: Jan 31, 2007; After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

When will we stop feeling like poo poo

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:32

Adbot: ADBOT LOVES YOU

# ? Jun 5, 2024 23:57

Paradoxish: Dec 19, 2003; Will you stop going crazy in there?

Bhaal posted:

I don't know why I keep containing my urge to tell the 2nd group to eat poo poo and die hungry.

Maybe don't? These people voted for this. They need to own the consequences of that.

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:33

Fojar38: Sep 2, 2011; Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia

also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

straight up brolic posted:

When will we stop feeling like poo poo

It'll pass soon, and will likely be replaced by fire. This is a good thing.

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:32

Flip Yr Wig: Feb 21, 2007; Oh please do go on; Fun Shoe

Fojar38 posted:

Because Trump is already retracting all the poo poo that made them vote for him and backing down on his more extreme rhetoric. His campaign just removed the Muslim ban from his website for example.

Ta-da!

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:32

The Ol Spicy Keychain: Jan 17, 2013; I MEPHISTO MY OWN ASSHOLE

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

https://twitter.com/govhowarddean/status/796838538641833990

So Keith Ellison and Howard Dean are running for chair

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:32

sit on my Facebook: Jun 20, 2007; ASS GAS OR GRASS
No One Rides for FREE
In the Trumplord Holy Land

negromancer posted:

Because you don't care enough to actually risk even a fraction of what minorities have to risk everyday.

And its why we are where we are now.

not emptyquoting

Arguing your beliefs and arguing in defense of others on social media, with those whose minds you may even actually be in a position to change, is literally the least you can do.

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:33

Deadly Ham Sandwich: Aug 19, 2009; Smellrose

Deified Data posted:

Good post. I think this thread should get its poo poo together in a couple weeks but until then the circular firing squad with the occasional smug Trumpist doesn't make for compelling content.

But it is loving hilarious. This is a comedy forum drat it.

Also bigly post, Deified Data.

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:34

Main Paineframe: Oct 27, 2010

Xae posted:

Like it is not a sizeable portion of the progressive base has the mentality of a 12 year old girl and needs to be ~~~iNsPiReD~~~~ to perform their civic duty.

As long as that portion is large enough to dictate the outcome of the race they have to be catered to.

So what happens when catering to them leads to losses among another demographic? I'm not saying politics is a zero-sum game where you can't appeal to one group without losing another, but there was already disappointingly little attention paid to minority issues in this election, and I'm sure seeing that white Democrats can't be bothered to show up and have their back is going to do a real number on minority turnout - especially since any hope of reversing Shelby County is dead under a Trump presidency.

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:34

negromancer: Aug 20, 2014; by FactsAreUseless

Skippy Granola posted:

Here's my Canadian hot take based on an interested outsider's perspective: Folks are too pissed off these days to focus on the greater good.

I'm p sure most people who voted Trump would be okay with gay marriage and Healthcare and reproductive rights. Even the most hardcore right-winger might be persuaded to live and let live on some of these issues. Problem was the whole "deplorables" mistake put them on the defensive and consolidated the opposition.

See, I'm liberal as all get-out but I found the Democrat campaign to be pretty cloyingly moralistic. Hillary clung to her ersatz high horse, quoting Michelle Obama even as she slung mud with both hands. She wrestled with the pig and came out filthy.

"Privilege" is a useful and interesting concept but it's abused as an all or nothing affair. Thing is, privilege exists on a spectrum and in different ways.

A poor white rural family might not get stop-and-frisked, but they probably have a hard time making ends meet and might not have insurance.

A wealthy black doctor's family might be well taken care of and well-off, but might be pulled over by a racist cop cause their Audi is suspiciously nice.

Both have legitimate grievances against the system and both could justifiably lay blame on someone else for their problems.

So, it's not really about coddling racists. It's just about trying to foster some understanding. Otherwise you might as well just split into Democratia and Republistan and be done with it.

Tldr y'all make me sad sometimes. Canada is by no means perfect but at least our elections are boring.

I'd be okay with this.

Let the republicans turn their areas into a third-world country with no capabilities that can't make or produce anything but hatred and meth.

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:34

Doredrin: Sep 5, 2016; by zen death robot

Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:

But it is loving hilarious. This is a comedy forum drat it.

Also bigly post, Deified Data.

I learned from Fox News today that Donald Trump is actually saying "big league" when he says that.

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:35

Fojar38: Sep 2, 2011; Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia

also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

Flip Yr Wig posted:

Ta-da!

Bummer.

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:36

Potato Salad: Oct 23, 2014; nobody cares

Crain posted:

I'm still not really all in on getting back into thinking about, talking about, and watching politics again. This isn't just some "Woe is me, we shall now descend into the abyss" whine, although trying to get past that fear is part of it. I'm just having trouble approaching this situation in a manner that might be constructive. But it seems a lot of people do not have that hang up here.

At the very least we do have the numbers coming in finally. Hillary won the popular vote, Donald won the electoral college. Only one of those matters. Both candidates lost voters compared to last election and we lost the support of far more and in far more important places. But it wasn't a wave for the GOP. It was the Dems loss 100%. There wasn't a silent majority of right wing adherents who decided to make their presence known as a stance against the Obama years. We just lost more voters than the GOP did. But the nation did not magically turn into a giant KKK rally that we need to appeal to. It's ultimately the same population that is in favor of the ACA, in favor of Roe v. Wade, and in favor of things like gun control. The populace is still the most progressive we've ever been as a country, to whatever consolation that's worth to you.

At the numbers we have now only 37.6% of the nation voted. If you adjust that to voting eligible population it's 49.5%. The people who voted for the incoming presidential administration represent 24.7% of the voting eligible population. What this tells me is that the Democratic party does not, in fact, need to start our own Southern Strategy. Get that poo poo out of your heads, people who are saying we need to stop fighting so hard against bigotry because it makes bigots sad and more likely to vote against us. These are the same people who always vote against us. It just turns out that the GOP base is more reliable than the Dem base.

We lost 5.79 million votes. That's what we need to focus on. What do we need to do to ensure we get those votes again? Right now, I don't know what specifically we need to focus in on because god knows what the most pressing situation for the country will be in 2 and 4 years. It could be simple economic revitalization or it could be the need for unleaded bread. But we hosed up with Clinton. I forget who said it, but "Let's use the ultimate test for what a successful candidate is: An Election."

We lost with Clinton. Should we have? That's a meaningless question here. Yes the scandals were bullshit. I had a huge post talking about why the email thing was a bunch of poo poo. But ultimately Clinton was seen as having too much baggage, seen as being uncharismatic, and did not engage the voters we should have had with the platform she took. Is that true? I don't think so. But the electorate did. That's what matters. What we ran with Clinton didn't win. And looking at what I said above, the answer isn't to run to the center or right, but to push further left. We need to do better. But I don't know who the Dems can run in 4 years right now. Maybe someone will come out of seemingly nowhere like Obama. Someone who right now no one is noticing. But probably our next candidate will be another Kerry. So we're looking for someone in 8 years. We need that inspiring hope and change candidate. We need them to be cleaner. We need them to be fresher. Trump was, amazingly, the hope and change guy this time around. It was just terrible change and the hope was of something that takes 14 words to explain.

Right now though? This is the worst part. Now we wait. We don't know just how he's going to act in power. We don't even know for sure who his cabinet will be. But from what he's promised and campaigned on it'll be bad. We need to keep working, pushing, and moving forward. We're in for a long 4 years but if we don't start working now then it'll only get worse. Call your representatives. Call your senators. Write to the office of the president. Call, email, protest, volunteer, get involved. Try to challenge your friends and family politically (if you can).

Be a good person and survive.

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:35

disjoe: Feb 18, 2011

negromancer posted:

And they won't. They will poo poo on a plate if it means minorities have to eat it too.

They literally only want good poo poo for themselves, and if they have to share it they see it as less they should have and deserve to have.

And its not just the rural whites, but the suburban whites with higher than median income as well. They are doing well and do not want others that are not like them to do well. Period.

This is a huge population in America so it's not a one size fits all thing.

There will be whites that accept that message, and whites that reject it.

The ones that accept it are on board and I think they can change for the better. I was raised in rural Mississippi. I'm white. I've talked to racist whites in a closed room where they felt comfortable saying whatever came to mind. Some can be helped and changed. Some can't.

The ones that reject it, gently caress 'em. We're going to help them anyway just like we're going to help the black community down the road from them. And we're going to give their kids a good education too so that eventually the kids can learn just how categorically wrong their parents were about everything.

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:36

Seraphic Neoman: Jul 19, 2011

Scent of Worf posted:

https://twitter.com/time/status/796805891475570688

Drain the swamp
MAGA lmao

Does this surprise anyone? Did anyone really not see this coming?

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:38

Main Paineframe: Oct 27, 2010

disjoe posted:

I don't think the pivot should be "let's coddle the racist and say his racism is okay" and I really hope no one in this thread thinks it should be.

But should we be reaching out to voters in these poo poo areas and giving them concrete paths to improving their lives? I think so. The messaging should be "everyone having trouble deserves help, regardless of race, creed, color." Minority communities face unique problems and we shouldn't forget that. But if you can get a white racist guy to vote for someone who pledges to improve their lives AS WELL AS the lives of minority communities around him, that starts an interaction that halts the spread of racism and hate.

What happens when a white racist guy instead prefers to vote for people who pledges to improve their lives but not the lives of minority communities? What happens when a white racist guy would rather vote against people who pledge to improve the lives of minority communities even if they're also pledging to improve the lives of white people? This is how we end up with welfare recipients who vote to repeal welfare because, although it was really helpful to them when they needed it, they've heard that a lot of black people use welfare too and therefore it needs to go.

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:39

Judakel: Jul 29, 2004; Can't post for 9 years!

Main Paineframe posted:

So what happens when catering to them leads to losses among another demographic? I'm not saying politics is a zero-sum game where you can't appeal to one group without losing another, but there was already disappointingly little attention paid to minority issues in this election, and I'm sure seeing that white Democrats can't be bothered to show up and have their back is going to do a real number on minority turnout - especially since any hope of reversing Shelby County is dead under a Trump presidency.

Voter suppression is going to be an even bigger issue come next election and Democrats need to do a much better job of communication with minority voters on issues of actual importance. At the same time, they can reach out to blue collar workers, so long as they avoid PC lecturing.

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:38

Quorum: Sep 24, 2014; REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?

Fojar38 posted:

Note: I'm not saying that bad and lovely legislation isn't going to pass in the next 2 years, but there are still checks on power even with control of all branches of government, both seen and unseen. The founders were just as terrified of President Trump as we are.

Honestly, President Trump is probably the biggest kind of thing they were scared of. Sure, most of them wouldn't approve of a black or a woman president, but to be honest none of them would really seriously consider those possibilities anyway. A demagogue who sweeps into power on the backs of a mob, wielding concentrated executive power and with a rubber-stamp legislature? You bet your sweet rear end they'd have (collectively, if not necessarily individually) been terrified of that possibility. We know this for certain; so much of their political writings concerned the ways in which their system could be turned to tyranny, and the ways they'd tried to prevent that. It just so happens that we've, necessarily I would argue, concentrated power in the executive, such that when a demagogue inevitably ends up there, he's got access to so many more levers of power than previously in history. Andrew Jackson would have a spontaneous orgasm just thinking about the kinds of power Trump will have access to, and everyone at the time thought he was a loose cannon and a potential tyrant who swept into power on the backs of unprecedented popular support.

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:41

Too Shy Guy: Jun 14, 2003; I have destroyed more of your kind than I can count.

sit on my Facebook posted:

I wonder if at this point the ACA perhaps has the institutional inertia to not get repealed. The insurance companies have spent enormous amounts of money accommodating the infrastructure necessary to implement it, the GOP can't (hahaha of course they can but let's stay positive) just rip away pre-existing condition coverage, at least without massive popular outcry, and rich white people will see their rates go up as healthy young people with insurance through the exchanges all leave the risk pool. I'm at least convinced that repealing the ACA is not a DAY ONE, stroke-of-the-pen type thing.

The LA Times is thinking the same thing: Despite Republican pledges, 'repealing Obamacare' will be almost impossible -- but it could be damaged

quote:

Republicans �made the public think Obamacare caused all the trouble,� former Medicare official Don Berwick told Kaiser Health News. �That's absolutely wrong. They could repeal it tomorrow and costs would continue to go up.� If the GOP executes broad changes in the law but can�t quell the cost trends, it will be blamed for the failure.

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:40

Fansy: Feb 26, 2013; I GAVE LOWTAX COOKIE MONEY TO CHANGE YOUR STUPID AVATAR GO FUCK YOURSELF DUDE; Grimey Drawer

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

https://twitter.com/govhowarddean/status/796838538641833990

I'm with #YEEEARRRGH

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:40

mcmagic: Jul 1, 2004; If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

Scent of Worf posted:

So Keith Ellison and Howard Dean are running for chair

Dean was very good at his job, he's just been working for despicable people since he had it.... Keith Ellison rules.

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:40

Who What Now: Sep 10, 2006; by Azathoth

idiotsavant posted:

Cool, see you in 2020 with the next centrist Democrat to lose to Trump.

Nothing the DNC does will win them anything, least of all trying to court people who don't see a single problem with destroying countless lives. So I don't see the point in pandering to racists in a completely futile and ultimately meaningless gesture. There's no good reason to do it and people's willingness ITT to sell their souls for literally nothing is both astounding and distressing.

People keep saying "well I guess Trump will just get elected again" as if that were some sort of profound revelation. It's not. At this point it's an inevitability.

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:42

RealityWarCriminal: Aug 10, 2016

A lot of Republican had been talking about repealing the "bad parts" of Obamacare. They'll keep the pre-existing conditions coverage (or grandfather it in, somehow), but the individual mandate will go, maybe loosen employer coverage requirements, and you'll probably be allowed to buy across state lines, leading to a race to the bottom (similar to Delaware and coporate taxes). The whole thing will collapse in a few years, but in a way that Republicans can say they aren't to blame.

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:42

The Ol Spicy Keychain: Jan 17, 2013; I MEPHISTO MY OWN ASSHOLE

https://twitter.com/pgourevitch/status/796835973854351364

Another white liberal throwing minorities under the bus for not being perfectly submissive.

Note how he's comparing the propping up of racist birther conspiracy theory to people saying NotMyPresident because Trump spent his entire presidential race dehumanizing them.

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:43

Flip Yr Wig: Feb 21, 2007; Oh please do go on; Fun Shoe

Scent of Worf posted:

So Keith Ellison and Howard Dean are running for chair

Is there anything anyone outside the party apparatus can do to influence that campaign? I contacted my Rep, who caucuses about as far left as it gets, before realizing the Congressional delegations don't actually vote on that.

Then it turns out that my state chair, who does vote, is Mike loving Madigan.

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:43

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

sit on my Facebook posted:

not emptyquoting

Arguing your beliefs and arguing in defense of others on social media, with those whose minds you may even actually be in a position to change, is literally the least you can do.

So to be clear I am not silent. But strictly all my fb posts (aside from nothing-matters flavored drunken stuff that I don't recall posting (and in some cases double posting) on election night) have been even toned examinations into what we're losing, where we're going, how this happened, who has been empowered and validated, and so on. It's dismissed by the people who need it the most of course, so now I'm looking at disownment / make other family members cry over this rift options. It's not in my nature but nothing else works and we're all in hell anyway

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:44

mbt: Aug 13, 2012

"Russia and Syria have publicly announced wanting peace with US. DOW is at record level. Canada announces they are willing to renegotiate NAFTA with the US. It's only been two days." -the_donald headline, owns owns owns owns owns

negromancer posted:

Because you don't care enough to actually risk even a fraction of what minorities have to risk everyday.

And its why we are where we are now.

when an asian man walks outside hes literally in a more dangerous situation than fallujah. clam down my dude, you aren't healing a racial divide by telling white people how much they suck. I think you should read some threads on this very website on why you lost :grin:

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:44

Fansy: Feb 26, 2013; I GAVE LOWTAX COOKIE MONEY TO CHANGE YOUR STUPID AVATAR GO FUCK YOURSELF DUDE; Grimey Drawer

Scent of Worf posted:

https://twitter.com/pgourevitch/status/796835973854351364

Another white liberal throwing minorities under the bus for not being perfectly submissive.

Note how he's comparing the propping up of racist birther conspiracy theory to people saying NotMyPresident because Trump spent his entire presidential race dehumanizing them.

Stop protesting, angry young people! Just accept Trump as your leader, and in 4 years you can quietly vote for someone to speak for you.

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:43

Fojar38: Sep 2, 2011; Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia

also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

Quorum posted:

Honestly, President Trump is probably the biggest kind of thing they were scared of. Sure, most of them wouldn't approve of a black or a woman president, but to be honest none of them would really seriously consider those possibilities anyway. A demagogue who sweeps into power on the backs of a mob, wielding concentrated executive power and with a rubber-stamp legislature? You bet your sweet rear end they'd have (collectively, if not necessarily individually) been terrified of that possibility. We know this for certain; so much of their political writings concerned the ways in which their system could be turned to tyranny, and the ways they'd tried to prevent that. It just so happens that we've, necessarily I would argue, concentrated power in the executive, such that when a demagogue inevitably ends up there, he's got access to so many more levers of power than previously in history. Andrew Jackson would have a spontaneous orgasm just thinking about the kinds of power Trump will have access to, and everyone at the time thought he was a loose cannon and a potential tyrant who swept into power on the backs of unprecedented popular support.

It's true that the executive has wielded progressively more power since the Civil War but that's in part because the federal government has simply gotten larger and larger over time. Despite the rhetoric there is no point in history where the US government shrunk, not even during the Reagan years. The executive has more power but so do the other branches.

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:44

Quorum: Sep 24, 2014; REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?

Scent of Worf posted:

https://twitter.com/pgourevitch/status/796835973854351364

Another white liberal throwing minorities under the bus for not being perfectly submissive.

Note how he's comparing the propping up of racist birther conspiracy theory to people saying NotMyPresident because Trump spent his entire presidential race dehumanizing them.

lmao

In fact, the birther nonsense was "not the president." Donald Trump is legitimately the President of the United States, god help us. I just refuse to respect him or the dignity of his office, just as you wouldn't approve of a dog that shits on your nice rug just because it's Persian. There's no honeymoon period for this rear end in a top hat; he gets judged not just for what he says and does but what he has previously said and done, moving forward and I hope forever. If there is any pleasure at all to come, it will come from watching this fascist cheeto elemental fail miserably, just as he has failed miserably at every business venture he has ever attempted.

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:45

Sexual Aluminum: Jun 21, 2003; is made of candy; Soiled Meat

Reading this thread isn't fun anymore.

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:45

chumbler: Mar 28, 2010

Fansy posted:

Stop protesting, angry young people! Just accept Trump as your leader, and in 4 years you can quietly vote for someone to speak for you.

Provided that person excited you personally enough.

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:46

mbt: Aug 13, 2012

Fansy posted:

Stop protesting, angry young people! Just accept Trump as your leader, and in 4 years you can quietly vote for someone to speak for you.

what are the protests going to achieve, my dude, this is four years of punishment for picking the shittiest candidate on planet earth

you can't unfuck whats been hosed unless your name is lee harvey and I don't think that's right

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:45

straight up brolic: Jan 31, 2007; After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

The liberal infighting is interesting but not at all productive. We need to recognize the failures of the past, but only in so far as we can use them as a tool for the future. Pointing fingers is not an end in itself, it's just a means of self-congratulation.

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:46

Fojar38: Sep 2, 2011; Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia

also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

Sexual Aluminum posted:

Reading this thread isn't fun anymore.

Once it becomes apparent that this isn't literally the apocalypse we'll be back to our regular sarcastic arsehole selves.

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:47

mcmagic: Jul 1, 2004; If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

Sexual Aluminum posted:

Reading this thread isn't fun anymore.

Maybe there will be a little less polyannish delusion and more pragmatic solutions discussed after we all clean up our vomit from tuesday night.

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:46

Who What Now: Sep 10, 2006; by Azathoth

Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:

what are the protests going to achieve, my dude, this is four years of punishment for picking the shittiest candidate on planet earth

I sure as gently caress didn't pick Trump, so IDK what you're talking about.

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:46

Quorum: Sep 24, 2014; REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?

Fojar38 posted:

It's true that the executive has wielded progressively more power since the Civil War but that's in part because the federal government has simply gotten larger and larger over time. Despite the rhetoric there is no point in history where the US government shrunk, not even during the Reagan years. The executive has more power but so do the other branches.

Well, to be honest most of the centralization of power I'm thinking of has come mostly in two phases-- during the New Deal and its expansion of executive departments, and during the last eight years with its unprecedented failure of legislative leadership. Obama had to take actions which were technically within the power of the executive but were traditionally shunned, or else witness government fail completely. It's to his credit that he didn't do so more, honestly, poo poo like the trillion dollar coin or whatever would have been disasters.

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:46

Paradoxish: Dec 19, 2003; Will you stop going crazy in there?

mcmagic posted:

Dean was very good at his job, he's just been working for despicable people since he had it.... Keith Ellison rules.

The Fifty-state Strategy was arguably a pretty big mistake since many of the Democrats it put into office were too vulnerable to attacks from the right. Just because you can win a particular seat doesn't necessarily mean that you should, especially if you're going to have to divert huge amounts of resources to defending it in the future.

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:48

kartikeya: Mar 17, 2009

Doctor Butts posted:

This is a really good point. A whooooooole bunch of people in this thread complained how Hillary spent too much time attacking Trump and not doing the whole hope and change routine.

A woman being criticized for being too passive and too aggressive at the exact same time? This is not a thing that any woman has ever seen before ever, nope.

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:46

Adbot: ADBOT LOVES YOU

# ? Jun 5, 2024 23:57

PKJC: May 7, 2009

twodot posted:

What possible reason could you have to care about whether people feel guilty other than voting strategy?

Very simple, removing the idea that it's permissible for those people to live in complacency and pretend they didn't do something horrible. Every bit of bigotry that is allowed to lie passively, even the tacit approval of people who sat at home, contributes to the larger environment of hatred and oppression against minorities. You can fix bigotry by voting and you can also fix it by not staying quiet about bigotry just because it isn't wearing a hood or dragging someone behind a truck.

# ? Nov 10, 2016 23:48

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > uspol november: as it turns out they could not stump the trump

«‹›594 »