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Tias posted:It's the same here in Europe. Our freepers go "dey take are jerbs" every time they get, until a TV documentary actually showed how loving hard and lovely immigrant jobs are, and how no white person would even consider taking them. If those fucks want to work at slaughterhouses with no real worker protection they should go do it so they, too, can die at the ripe age of 48.
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The ACA is something you will not get back in a generation once it is torn up, and that much seems likely. Beyond that my main fear (self-serving as I am not American) the insanity of Putin. The commitment to NATO and willingness to fight about international matters is not an undivided good of the US, but the counterbalance really is necessary. I really doubt Trump will ruin anything that cannot be fixed beyond that though. Even the SCOTUS issue, while unfortunate, is something I doubt he will play that hardball about, he is not solve religious nut.
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The idea that I've had is that McConnell and Ryan have healthy egos too, and they're not going to roll over to Trump and lose what influence they have left in the party. The idea that the whole system will become an assembly line because everyone has the same letter next to their name isn't true, because as noted Trump is the very definition of a RINO. There's some cases where it will become a rubber stamp; the Supreme Court seat looks like it'll be one, but the party still has their agenda and if Trump wants to go in a different direction you're going to see the infighting kick up. Now if Ryan loses his speakership to someone from the House Freedom Caucus and all the angry Trump supporters start bearing down on McConnell, then you run the risk that the system becomes Trumps and Trumps alone. But I don't think that'll happen, if only because Congress is going to want some insurance in case Trump's presidency goes south.
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How much of what they attribute to George Soros can actually be attributed to George Soros? Wait. Let me rephrase. I know they blame literally everything on George Soros. Pretty much the only time I hear of the guy are in these fringe right wing circles. Does he donate to candidates, at least?
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Dude, he donates to candidates. He pays women to get abortions. He sends checks to thugs for playing the knockout game.
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Nov 10, 2016 20:25
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myron cope posted:How much of what they attribute to George Soros can actually be attributed to George Soros? Yeah he's a major donor. But more importantly hes a rich politically active Jew. Therefore he's a blood drinking Nazi (literally an accusation) Puppetmaster.
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I want to ask this somewhere, because it's something I heard on the night and it's become, while not a hope, a curiosity. And somehow this thread's one of the saner and more rational D&D threads, who probably won't go crazy in a derail about it. Trump has some lawsuits coming up. I know there's the rape case in December, and the Trump University case sometime (I think it's ongoing?), possibly more. Presume he loses one or more of these, what happens? Since I'm pretty sure you can't be elected as a felon, I'm sure something does, but not what. I know at some point it becomes President Pence (oh god), but is there a point before that when it becomes even more baffling? Or a point afterwards when it doesn't even matter? Is there even precedent for us to know at all?
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Cleretic posted:I want to ask this somewhere, because it's something I heard on the night and it's become, while not a hope, a curiosity. And somehow this thread's one of the saner and more rational D&D threads, who probably won't go crazy in a derail about it. Rape case was dropped because woman was continually harassed and hounded by the brownshirt Trump supporters.
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Cleretic posted:I want to ask this somewhere, because it's something I heard on the night and it's become, while not a hope, a curiosity. And somehow this thread's one of the saner and more rational D&D threads, who probably won't go crazy in a derail about it. I don't think there's an actual answer to this. We'll just have to wait and see! Bring popcorn. Trump Us civil and not criminal I think so there'll be no felon elect from there.
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Nov 10, 2016 22:00
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Twelve by Pies posted:One is that yeah, we seriously don't know what Trump will do. Obviously stuff like the wall or mass deportation will never happen, Guess what motherfucker
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You know since he's backed by kkk literal neonazis You know that the Daily News said the same thing for Hitler right You should know
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robotsinmyhead posted:Trump's "Day One" plan has a lot of stuff in it that could be construed as 'Populist' in a lot of ways. In fact, I quite like a lot them on-paper. Watching FReepers attempt to claim that they were always about these things will be funny. What got him in office was a dem shitshow and democrat voters staying home in droves. That doesn't mean we should not be worried about what he'll do, but he wasn't elected to slash the EPA.
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Tias posted:What got him in office was a dem shitshow and democrat voters staying home in droves. That doesn't mean we should not be worried about what he'll do, but he wasn't elected to slash the EPA. Climate Change denier, head of Trump's "EPA transition team" and one of the people he's apparently considering for the job
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Well, by all accounts, Trump is incredibly impressionable. So just find some celebrity he admires, get them to meet him and proclaim how great he is, then have them convince him of the important work the EPA is doing. Maybe it'll help.
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Maybe that's what Obama's going to do. Impart the seeds of climate change acceptance.
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Islam is the Lite Rock FM posted:Maybe that's what Obama's going to do. Impart the seeds of climate change acceptance. Obama already has Operation Charm Offensive underway: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/11/10/obama-to-welcome-trump-to-white-house-for-first-meeting-since-election/
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Cleretic posted:I want to ask this somewhere, because it's something I heard on the night and it's become, while not a hope, a curiosity. And somehow this thread's one of the saner and more rational D&D threads, who probably won't go crazy in a derail about it. He'll do the same thing he has in other cases he couldn't win. He'll settle out. That way he doesn't get branded a criminal legally
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SocketWrench posted:Freeper tale 13,064,333. Yeah, if you ran a business, why didn't you have money set aside somewhere in case of issues like this? When I applied for foodstampa because the glorious imperial reign of Rick Snyder and his right to work nonsense put me out of work, I got them right away, albeit only about 200 bucks a month though Yep and 200 is about the maximum for a single person. But oh no I was laughed out of the office for being white and actually needing help!
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tacodaemon posted:Obama already has Operation Charm Offensive underway: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/11/10/obama-to-welcome-trump-to-white-house-for-first-meeting-since-election/ So have they turned on Trump for being a Rino after that? Or are they going with "He's a model of grace and class!"
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Ambitious Spider posted:So have they turned on Trump for being a Rino after that? Or are they going with "He's a model of grace and class!" Nothing less than him being replaced with Bizarro Trump: The one that isn't a damnable fascist bigot TM is going to get them out of cult of personality. That and the chances that he won't deliver on his promises.
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Cleretic posted:I want to ask this somewhere, because it's something I heard on the night and it's become, while not a hope, a curiosity. And somehow this thread's one of the saner and more rational D&D threads, who probably won't go crazy in a derail about it. It looks like the university case is Civil, so it's not like he is facing jail. If something truly deplorable comes out, Congress could impeach, but the bar for that is impossibly high given that Trump has already committed half a dozen gaffs, that 20 years ago would have ended any politicians career.
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Annointed posted:Nothing less than him being replaced with Bizarro Trump: The one that isn't a damnable fascist bigot TM is going to get them out of cult of personality. That and the chances that he won't deliver on his promises. Or they all starve once social security gets gutted in favor of more ocean dicks.
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I Greyhound posted:It looks like the university case is Civil, so it's not like he is facing jail. If something truly deplorable comes out, Congress could impeach, but the bar for that is impossibly high given that Trump has already committed half a dozen gaffs, that 20 years ago would have ended any politicians career. And for a Republican Congress to impeach a Republican president for anything short of actual, undeniable treason would be unimaginable. Hell, for them to even dream of it would cost every single member their seat.
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Nihilarian posted:remember when it was "Donald Trump will never be elected!" Trying to get actual legislation passed through the government is a bit different from persuading people to vote for you. I figure Trump will probably increase the amount of border guards and maybe do some general repairs on areas of the fence that need it and that'll be the best he'll be able to pull off.
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Islam is the Lite Rock FM posted:Or they all starve once social security gets gutted in favor of more ocean dicks. Even then they'll probably smile knowing that Trump is their future and the last thing they see. Remember tax cuts and how much they harm people is proportional to how much of a minority you are. If you're white, chances are it's minute. And the more poor/minority you are, the more the entire place falls into shambles.
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Annointed posted:Even then they'll probably smile knowing that Trump is their future and the last thing they see. Remember tax cuts and how much they harm people is proportional to how much of a minority you are. If you're white, chances are it's minute. And the more poor/minority you are, the more the entire place falls into shambles. The primary freep demographic relies on social security. Everytime COLA comes up threads pop up there bitching that their welfare checks won't increase. Also I'm not so sure dying of diabetic ketoacidosis and smiles go well together.
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Not to mention literally the only section of the white vote Hillary won was the 50k or less a year bracket. But she definitly lost the "people who identify as working class" bracket like my family. My grandparents screamed at me when I claimed that they weren't working class a couple years ago. 300k or so btw. Own three houses. But one is a "farm" in assnowhere texas they've dumped hundreds of thousands of dollars into to make it more aesthetically "farmy", one is a cabin in the mountains, and the other is a McMansion suburbia. But no. "Working class". e2: Woops hit the farsi changeover button. Trump did not win the working class vote is what I meant to write. e3: 
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Annointed posted:Even then they'll probably smile knowing that Trump is their future and the last thing they see. Remember tax cuts and how much they harm people is proportional to how much of a minority you are. If you're white, chances are it's minute. And the more poor/minority you are, the more the entire place falls into shambles. Eh, they'll handle it like they did when Bush was cratering the economy. "It's just a little rough patch before his awesomeness totally gets the ball rolling. We just have to tug the bootstraps for a little bit till those nasty lieberals gently caress off" After Trump's out of office and the damage has been done to extents it takes another 4-8 years to climb out of they'll disown him as a Republican and insist they never voted for the tangerine
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SocketWrench posted:After Trump's out of office and the damage has been done to extents it takes another 4-8 years to climb out of they'll disown him as a Republican and insist they never voted for the tangerine I appreciate your enthusiasm, but come on: the damage will start right as the new president is taking over and the typical voter with a 1 month attention span will blame THAT guy.
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TotalLossBrain posted:I appreciate your enthusiasm, but come on: the damage will start right as the new president is taking over and the typical voter with a 1 month attention span will blame THAT guy. That's how they handled Bush though. When Obummer took office all of the past eight years was his fault, Dubya became poison and everyone distanced themselves from his name after to the point some even forgot him all together and insisted Obama's been running the country since the 2000 elections. Once the orange one gets things so hosed the mere mention of his name incites responders to rack off his fuckups, the Republicans will toss him like a poo poo filled diaper
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I'm sure no one does, but don't expect Republicans to take blame for anything now, even when they control it all. They'll find their particular brand of strawman, one who probably wouldn't pass the paper bag test, and blame them. It's happened for decades, and it won't change now. They're going to gently caress this country up 5 ways from Sunday, then use mental gymnastics to blame minorities and democrats. Then when the next democratic president is elected and tries to fix the damage done, and can't fix it overnight because of the extent of the damage, you'll have the right screaming again about how ineffective Democrats are. It's a vicious cycle and is enough to make any rational person want to quit this country.
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Zipperelli. posted:I'm sure no one does, but don't expect Republicans to take blame for anything now, even when they control it all. They'll find their particular brand of strawman, one who probably wouldn't pass the paper bag test, and blame them. That's exactly what the Tea Party was. The minute Obama became president, and the Republican brand became toxic, they all donned their little tri-corner hats and "Oh my god! The Iraq war is terrible," "the deficit is out of control!"
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From BREAKING: Portland police say anti-Trump protest is 'riot' posted by freeper tcrlaf with keywords: oregon; portland; portlandoregon; riot; soros Riot, indeed. Minor property damage so far, but still ongoing as I write this. Smashed cars, an electrical box in a park, smashed windows. Standard "anarchists." Yes, any real anarchists can roll their eyes at that. The rioters - at least the ones that appeared on the local 11 o'clock news - seemed to make it pretty clear that they were just taking advantage of the situation to be assholes, with multiple stories about how the actual protesters attempted to intervene. The reporters noted how many rioters weren't afraid of the cameras. Oh yes, one more thing. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/796900183955095552 Just in case you were wondering why the Soros keyword appeared. quote:Portland liberals rioting against Trump. Because, violence and hate are bad... and stuff. quote:To: tcrlaf quote:The Thug Party. quote:To: tcrlaf quote:To: SpaceBar quote:To: tcrlaf Just quoting this one to make sure everyone knows that Rogue treats their IT staff like poo poo and nobody should buy their beer on principle alone. quote:To: tcrlaf GOD WILL FIX IT quote:To: tcrlaf quote:To: tcrlaf quote:To: funfan quote:To: umgud quote:To: theoilpainter quote:To: tcrlaf Ever encounter a post that you think you can stop bolding, but then it goes on and on? quote:To: tcrlaf The thread goes on a bit more, but I want to end it here. Flip the roles and implied pejoratives in this post and it might sound more familiar to you, possibly capable of coming out of this thread. It's a post entirely out of place on freep. quote:To: tcrlaf
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Annointed posted:Watch as the media praises the brownshirts and the police approve of their actions. Happening right now on CNN
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Plinkey posted:Happening right now on CNN Are you loving serious? If the electoral college does a repeat of 2000, fascism wins, democracy dies and I actually am worried for so many of my friends.
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Nihilarian posted:yeah, I'm sure the EPA will be perfectly fine with Myron Ebell in charge We're talking past one another. Trump will gently caress up the EPA, but that is not why he was elected. He was elected because he wasn't Clinton - and also, of course, because of the kook vote, but I think "dealing with" illegals and muslims swayed more of them than slashing the EPA. E: a lot of my US queer and trans friends on facebook are talking about arming themselves. Are Trumps admin going to be as hosed up to LGBTQ people as they think? 
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Annointed posted:Are you loving serious? If the electoral college does a repeat of 2000, fascism wins, democracy dies and I actually am worried for so many of my friends. Yeah, they were showing portland protests and don't even know what 'less than lethal munitions' means they had some police chief on the phone that said it was now a riot and time to bring out the less than lethal munitions, which CNN called 'non-lethal munitions' after they hung up.
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Tias posted:E: a lot of my US queer and trans friends on facebook are talking about arming themselves. Are Trumps admin going to be as hosed up to LGBTQ people as they think? Probably not, but Dems getting into the gun culture and getting them out of the bubble and interacting with the rest of america is probably a good thing.
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Plinkey posted:Probably not, but Dems getting into the gun culture and getting them out of the bubble and interacting with the rest of america is probably a good thing. Dems will buy up all the guns and ammo then claim the shortage of ammo and the high price of guns is because Trumps goons are readying the queer internment camps. I hear they bought a billion rounds of ammo for "training exercises".
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