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Phi230 posted:We just got poo poo on by a loud lunatic goddamn right
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I don't know what I can do but goddammit I'm going to try my hardest to try to help Ellison get the hen.
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Nov 11, 2016 17:34
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Hilario Baldness posted:I mean a third party would be cool, but Sanders essentially just inherited a brand name product for the price of nothing at all. He hasn't inherited it yet, but I really, really hope he does. Right now, the only thing I can see that matters is stopping Trump and his merry band of morons. His victory is built on sand. He's promised angry people things he can't possibly deliver. When he falls on his stupid orange face because he's a shill salesman and not a leader, there has to be a group ready to take advantage. Right now, like it or not, the Democratic Party is the only national organization that has the reach to do that, providing their leadership gets it through their skulls just how badly they misread everything. You want to smash capitalism and bring a glorious revolution? That's great, best of luck to you. But you have to get past Trump first. What absolutely cannot happen is shattering a potential movement over the tyranny of small differences. And compared to being against Trump and his abhorrent supporters, lots of things are small differences. I don't know if it would do any good, but first thing Monday I'm going to straight to my local Democratic Party office and making someone, anyone, listen to me.
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LmaoTheKid posted:I don't know what I can do but goddammit I'm going to try my hardest to try to help Ellison get the hen. well the plus side is absolutely noone in the history of the world actually has enthusiasm for centrists
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Nov 11, 2016 17:38
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Strep Vote posted:I'm like 11 pages behind but given the attitudes from the Democratic voters in this thread, we probably have a better chance of turning the Republican party into the socialist party. We just won't call it socialism. "National Socialism"
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Thoguh posted:Harry Reid can gently caress off. Vlad can like the result without orchestrating it dude. Trump's Russia friendly stance is obviously good for Vlad. That can be accepted without proposing a conspiracy.
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Nov 11, 2016 17:46
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Aside from voting I've been completely disengaged from politics for a long time, but I'd get my knuckles bloody to toss the clintonites out on their asses. Hopefully there are other people who feel the same.
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Nov 11, 2016 17:47
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Nov 11, 2016 17:48
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"hey guys maybe people like Lite Republicans after all!" - An idiot 70 year old who helped cause all this poo poo 20 years ago.
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quote:While Ellison appears to have broad support as a young African American face of the party who can bridge the Sanders-Clinton divide and — as one of the few Muslim members of Congress — stand at the front of the anti-Trump vanguard, already some Democrats have started wondering aloud about the various chair candidates’ commitments to reaching out to the working class white voters who backed Trump versus doubling down on Democrats’ existing coalition. Others have already raised red flags that there are no women whose names are circulating for position The democratic party can't even get out of its own way.
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Zikan posted:no https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IiHRSBAMwU Gene Hackman Fan has issued a correction as of 17:57 on Nov 11, 2016 |
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SpaceGoku posted:Aside from voting I've been completely disengaged from politics for a long time, but I'd get my knuckles bloody to toss the clintonites out on their asses. Hopefully there are other people who feel the same. I already sent messages to any Democrats who represent me and the DNC. We need to tell them they either acquiesce to Bernie or they will not have our support in the future. It worked for the Tea Party and it can work for us.
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Nov 11, 2016 17:50
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I've been blasting that Bernie petition to support Ellison out to all my contacts today and getting a good response.
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Equeen posted:If you're comfortable doing so, can you post the basic form of your emails? I definitely need to do the same. Sure. I grabbed most of it from Thundercracker on page 50. Thanks buddy, for getting me to email too. "To Whom it May Concern: My name is XXX. I live in XXX. I've been a Democratic voter and supporter for my entire adult life. I donated for both Obama and Clinton, and voted for XXX after voting for XXX in the primary. Until Tuesday night, I considered myself a supporter of Third Way Centralism. I mention these things to highlight the seriousness of what must be done. The party must make the right choice and back Bernie Sander's pick, Keith Ellison, for the DNC chairman, and let the Sanders wing lead the party. The credibility of establishment Democrats has been utterly destroyed. I call my own judgement into question for not heeding the populist movement that is sweeping the country and reshaping the electorate. Lower income Americans have been forgotten by a Democratic party that used to be their natural ally. We must turn our focus to raising wages for the middle and lower class and strengthening our unions. We must force Wall Street and the top 5% to pay their fair share instead of looting the last remaining wealth of our breadbasket. If the Democratic Party unites under a common banner and fully embraces the millions of Americans who are struggling and who are fearful for their futures, we can retake our country in 2020 and return dignity, respect, and tolerance to the White House. If we instead fall into an ugly civil war between the centralist and progressive wings of the party, it will spell the end of American liberalism in its entirety. Please do your part to convince the DNC to make the right choice. The only way out is the way forward, and to embrace the brand of populism that Mr. Sanders harnessed in 2016." I've already heard back from my county organization and I'll see where it takes me.
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Nov 11, 2016 17:52
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Oh word, Martin O'Malley? Well thank fuckin god, we've been saved. I'll work on a Top 10 of why "MOM" knows best! Get it, because his initials spell MOM? Look, someone already retweeted it!
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Nov 11, 2016 17:53
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Hey Minneapolis goons That Know The City More than Me, is Keith Ellison's HQ in North? It's off of Plymouth, and if so that's cool as heck.
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:gently caress off mom Remember that time some Hillbot blew up at everyone in the Bernie thread because they were making fun of MOMS 
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Zoran posted:Remember that time some Hillbot blew up at everyone in the Bernie thread because they were making fun of MOMS GODDAMN SEXIST BERNOUTS!!!!
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:Oh word, Martin O'Malley? Well thank fuckin god, we've been saved. I'll work on a Top 10 of why "MOM" knows best! Get it, because his initials spell MOM? Hey, look at all those tweets comparing O'Malley to a character from that great progressive show, The Wire! Carcetti was one of the good guys, right? I've never watched it myself.
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Top 10 of why "MOM" knows best Kitty Kat Remix! I replaced the pictures with cat pictures that vaguely resemble the original pictures! If we're playing the women card you can deal them the meow in!
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Thoguh posted:The democratic party can't even get out of its own way. Well if what Snake says is true, then the Clintonistas are totally shell shocked and disorganized. Now would be the time to get organized and lock it down ASAP.
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Zikan posted:the war is loving on ur very cool
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DaveWoo posted:Hey, look at all those tweets comparing O'Malley to a character from that great progressive show, The Wire! Carcetti was one of the good guys, right? I've never watched it myself. He was one of us. *creepy smile* Page 69: The Sex Page https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1SdjRSqqHE
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:I mean for gently caress's sake these people were savaged by the capitalist class and now desperately need help. Aren't these the people the Democratic Party are supposed to help? The Democrats put forth complex solutions to a complex problem - but these voters are not the type to care for that. Paul Ryan will poo poo on them for 8 years, then when Trump is not on the ballot, some will swing back to the Democrats for a cycle or two and so on and so forth.
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comingafteryouall posted:I already sent messages to any Democrats who represent me and the DNC. That's not what the Tea Party did.
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TyrantWD posted:The Democrats put forth complex solutions to a complex problem - but these voters are not the type to care for that. Paul Ryan will poo poo on them for 8 years, then when Trump is not on the ballot, some will swing back to the Democrats for a cycle or two and so on and so forth. the complex solutions can have easy labels like "we are going to help the real americans who have been hosed by republicans giving handouts to their billionaire friends" messaging loving matters
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Zikan posted:jesus if O'Malley is running, that means multiple establishment candidates. the fact that they couldn't get schumer is still hopeful because to give you an idea of how much of a clintonite schumer is Oh god how does everything that comes out of these people's mouths make Trump look like a loving genius.
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TyrantWD posted:The Democrats put forth complex solutions to a complex problem - but these voters are not the type to care for that. Paul Ryan will poo poo on them for 8 years, then when Trump is not on the ballot, some will swing back to the Democrats for a cycle or two and so on and so forth. Your "complex solutions" were all a bunch of market based nonsense, and your appeals to the economically anxious were compromised by simultaneously attempting to appeal to a connected donor class of corporate interests & IT bourgeois.
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TyrantWD posted:The Democrats put forth complex solutions to a complex problem - but these voters are not the type to care for that. Paul Ryan will poo poo on them for 8 years, then when Trump is not on the ballot, some will swing back to the Democrats for a cycle or two and so on and so forth. The thing you're refusing to accept though is that just because a solution is complex and intersectional does not make it a good solution.
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Nov 11, 2016 18:04
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TyrantWD posted:As long as its a factory that makes the same widgets that the previous factory did. Trump is not promising these workers jobs in factories for the new economy - his appeal was promising to bring back the exact same types of jobs that were lost. I grew up in the most blood red area of the most blood red state that went for Trump (southern coalfields of WV). I'll give you a little bit of insight: No one wants to be a loving coal miner in WV. It's poo poo work, your union doesn't have your back half the time (if you're in a union mine), and you're living in fear that you'll lose the one lifeline you have to a middle class life at any point. Democrats since Carter, including Hillary, can't grasp this fact for some weird reason. You don't have to bring coal back, no one wants it back because it objectively sucks. However, you -do- have to come up with a good way for these people who are here to enjoy a middle class life. That answer is not, as bad as many people want it to be, promising them a free college education. That answer is exactly what Trump did, but you can do it in an honest way.
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I really have to love the petitions circulating around regarding doing away with the electoral college or trying to convince electors to change their vote. Ain't no way in seven loving hells you're going to be able to convince the opposition to change it when they are totally winning with it. Any petition to electors to be faithless, any petitions to do it popular vote only, is trying to keep yourself busy contemplating your navel while ignoring the humongous sucking chest wound that is the fact that republicans will shortly control both houses, the white house, 69 out of 99 state legislatures, and 35 governorships. I'm not saying it doesn't suck, but for fucks' sake, could we please concentrate on what would be easier to achieve?
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Nov 11, 2016 18:06
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B-b-but we offered expansion of medicare! (to anybody older than 55) Where's everybody going?
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bump_fn posted:the complex solutions can have easy labels like "we are going to help the real americans who have been hosed by republicans giving handouts to their billionaire friends" No, personality matters. Trump could deliver on nothing in his first term other than cut taxes for the rich and remove Wall Street regulations, and he would still carry blue collar white voters by the same margin.
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Typo posted:"National Socialism" LOL I walked into that one
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TyrantWD posted:The Democrats put forth complex solutions to a complex problem - but these voters are not the type to care for that. Paul Ryan will poo poo on them for 8 years, then when Trump is not on the ballot, some will swing back to the Democrats for a cycle or two and so on and so forth. Bullshit. The Democrats hand waived their problems away with bullshit about "job retraining" and "college grants". Even if these people retrained and got college degrees they'd still live in a town with zero jobs. The real Democratic Party solution was to get the kids to flee and wait until the parents loving died.
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