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Cingulate posted:So what are realistic - first of all, numerically possible - coalitions on a Bundeslevel right now? How guaranteed is Black-Red to have a majority actually? How unlikely is Red-Red-Green to have one? Tons. Depends on how wrong the official prognosis is, otherwise very likely. Very unlikely if things continue like now. No. No we have nightmares enough thank you, Black-Green could work out, but doesn't give a majority either. lovely. That's all answers in sequence.
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Torrannor posted:So Chris Christie is competent? Or is Gabriel incompetent at impersonating Chris Christie? I mean, Gabriel has no bridgegate. Besides, Maas is all right, what's your problem with him? Especially when you have idiots like Dobrindt or Öttinger running around. Maas ist ein Showman und Selbstdarsteller. Wenn er irgendwo ein Problem sieht, dann macht er eine große Show darüber, wie sein Ministerium da einen tollen Plan für hat und dass damit alles geregelt wäre. Das Problem ist, dass die Gesetze die dabei rauskommen schlecht sind. Und zwar nicht nur rechtspolitisch schlecht - da halte ich sie zwar auch mit Masse für Müll - sondern auch mit groben handwerklichen Fehlern. Ein super Beispiel dafür ist u.a. dass Maas die Anerkennung von im Ausland geschlossenen Ehen abschaffen will, wenn die Ehe mit einer (nach deutschen Verständnis) minderjährigen / nicht ehemündigen Person geschlossen wurde. Das klingt erstmal gut und ist so ein tolles "Da haben wir was gutes getan!"-Gefühl für die Kernwähler der Reihenhausrentner- und studienräte ist aber in praktischer Hinsicht vollkommen unzulänglich. Denn es bedenkt in keiner Art und Weise die sich daraus ergebenden Folgeprobleme, z.B. was ist wenn die Ehegatten zwischenzeitlich volljährig sind, und schließt die Frauen davon aus, in Deutschland von ihren (nach ausländischem Recht) Ehegatten Unterhalt zu beziehen oder sich von diesen scheiden zu lassen. Und unter dem Gesichtspunkt von Familienschutz und Abstammungsrecht ist das auch suboptimal. Achja, das Justizministerium hat übrigens an der Ministerialerlaubnis von Siggie mitgeschrieben bzw. Anmerkungen dazu gemacht, auch wenn der Hauptautor jemand aus dem Wirtschaftsministerium war. Bei so ziemlich jedem größerem Patzer dieser Legislaturperiode ist der Maas im Hintergrund auch noch mitbeteiligt. Randler fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Nov 10, 2016 |
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Randler posted:Boris "Cingulate" Palmer. Palmer is more of a redditor 
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I sometimes read in the welt.de comment section because I like to hate life, but the one below made me laugh a lot. Topic of the article was what will happen to trumps companies while he is president.Gerhard K. posted:Wenn er wirklich clever wäre, würde er alles verkaufen, ein paar (wenige) Millionen für sich behalten und den Rest spenden für den Wiederaufbau des "Rustbelts" und die Arbeiter dort. Er wäre nach seiner Amtszeit immer noch ein reicher Mann und würde seine Kritiker schocken. Why of course, now that he is elected The Donald will go full socialism and give up all his money to help the poor and oppressed workers 
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niethan posted:Palmer is more of a redditor Well, America went blue alright :austriansay: 
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Nektu posted:I sometimes read in the welt.de comment section because I like to hate life, but the one below made me laugh a lot. Topic of the article was what will happen to trumps companies while he is president. I just had a florida friend of mine tell me about hearing some poo poo for brains yap about the excact same idiocy, has to be a talking point on some moldy corner of reddit or whatever hellhole the alt right hangs out right now.
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az posted:I just had a florida friend of mine tell me about hearing some poo poo for brains yap about the excact same idiocy, has to be a talking point on some moldy corner of reddit or whatever hellhole the alt right hangs out right now. It's probably got to do with the whole "businessman" meme Trump has going on. Since he has no political experience whatsoever, his followers have convinced themselves that he'll just take over the government and run it like a private enterprise, using his  proven business acumen. I guess randomly dumping money into places is their latest attempt to reconcile that idea and reality.
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System Metternich posted:Well, America went blue alright :austriansay: Wir sind sowas von im Heisl daheim.
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It was 11:11:11 on my clock. I blame the capitalist pig-dog forums. Or Radium.
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Yes, I too had nothing better to do on 11.11. at 11:11:11 than to post on the something awful dot com internet forum
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Denken sie, dass Deutschland den gleichen Weg wie Amerika gehen wird? Ich will einwandern
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Mister Olympus posted:Denken sie, dass Deutschland den gleichen Weg wie Amerika gehen wird? Ich will einwandern Not for a long time. The AfD (our populist rightwing idiot movement) is going to be relevant in a couple of states but has no chance of governing on a federal level. Plus they're currently busy infighting. Germans are (as of yet) too lazy and too well-fed to actually play at having a revolution.
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botany posted:Germans are (as of yet) too lazy and too well-fed to actually play at having a revolution. Also that sign clearly says not to step on the lawn.
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botany posted:Not for a long time. The AfD (our populist rightwing idiot movement) is going to be relevant in a couple of states but has no chance of governing on a federal level. Plus they're currently busy infighting. Germans are (as of yet) too lazy and too well-fed to actually play at having a revolution. I'm getting flashbacks to the beginning of the US presidential election last year...
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Mahlertov Cocktail posted:I'm getting flashbacks to the beginning of the US presidential election last year... Then you don't understand the difference between the electoral systems.
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Hasn't every other party said "hell no" to the thought of AfD in government? If that's true, they'd have to get 51% on their own as far as I understand German politics. Which is pretty much impossible even for a mainstream party.
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Drone posted:Hasn't every other party said "hell no" to the thought of AfD in government? If that's true, they'd have to get 51% on their own as far as I understand German politics. Which is pretty much impossible even for a mainstream party. Ding ding ding!
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Actually there was like one or two crazies from the CDU out of East Germany that talked about the possibility of a CDU-AfD Coalition, if the SPD was to get together with the Linke.
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Mister Olympus posted:Denken sie, dass Deutschland den gleichen Weg wie Amerika gehen wird? Ich will einwandern As such it's nearly impossible for us to have a cataclysm like in the usa, even if a party managed to cast a Grand Gerrymandering spell.
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Infected posted:Actually there was like one or two crazies from the CDU out of East Germany that talked about the possibility of a CDU-AfD Coalition, if the SPD was to get together with the Linke.
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Mithaldu posted:Half of the german Bundestag is elected like the senators in the usa, FPTP style per district. However the other half is distributed proportionally to votes acquired amongst the parties that made it past the 5% mark in the popular vote.
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frankenfreak posted:Not quite correct. All seats are proportionally distributed. The people elected in the districts are subtracted from the total allotment, the rest is filled up from the state parties' lists. (Somewhat simplified, but it's the gist of how it works.) Oh poo poo, that's even better. So if all Abgeordnete came from the same party, but the Zweitstimmen-Verteilung had that party only at a relatively low percentage, the Bundestag could get very huge?
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Helge Schneider for Bundespräsident, engage
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Mithaldu posted:Oh poo poo, that's even better. So if all Abgeordnete came from the same party, but the Zweitstimmen-Verteilung had that party only at a relatively low percentage, the Bundestag could get very huge? Witness the black magic of Überhangsmandate and weep
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Mahlertov Cocktail posted:I'm getting flashbacks to the beginning of the US presidential election last year... We already scouted German Donald Trump (a handsome fella named Dieter Bohlen, who had a famous TV talkshow called "Modern Talking" in the 80s) and he is under close watch. As soon as he makes any moves for the chancellorship we will still have at least a year to get the hell out and to Kanada. Don't worry man, it's under control.
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Goa Tse-tung posted:Helge Schneider for Bundespräsident, engage Would unironically vote
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Drone posted:Hasn't every other party said "hell no" to the thought of AfD in government? If that's true, they'd have to get 51% on their own as far as I understand German politics. Which is pretty much impossible even for a mainstream party. The CDU/CSU looked like they might be able to in the last election due to the way the 5% threshold works. Under certain circumstances you may find that a party that only got 40% or so of votes gets 50% of the seats. Right now 40% for the AfD is utterly ludicrous, of course, but I'm fairly confident that a double-digit result is not only possible but even likely.
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Goa Tse-tung posted:Helge Schneider for Bundespräsident, engage Holy poo poo, i would so vote for that. There are few people better capable of representing germany than good old Kommissar 00 Schneider. System Metternich posted:Witness the black magic of Überhangsmandate and weep In good old german tradition ein Abendstudium is required to grok this poo poo. Thanks for the link. I remember learning about this earlier in my life, guess i can learn it again. 
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ArchangeI posted:The CDU/CSU looked like they might be able to in the last election due to the way the 5% threshold works. Under certain circumstances you may find that a party that only got 40% or so of votes gets 50% of the seats. Right now 40% for the AfD is utterly ludicrous, of course, but I'm fairly confident that a double-digit result is not only possible but even likely. A prominent example being the CSU at the state election in 2003, where they got 61,something% of the popular vote iirc, but ended up with more than two-thirds of the seats Unrelated, but I looked something else up while I wrote the above and realised that in the 1972 election, Union and SPD together accounted for 90,7% of the popular vote  In 2009, it was 56,8%, though it has recovered somewhat by now ofc. No recovery for the Austrian Volksparteien - in 1975, ÖVP and SPÖ together got 93,3% and current polling sees them at somewhere between 45% and 48%. How the mighty have fallen 
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Ficking lol autobahnprivatisierung 
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Where will they get the Bundesrat votes for the Grundgesetzänderung? And why do we even need a PKW-Maut if we privatize the Autobahn anyway??
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*in Siggy Pop voice* Schöner Kohleausstieg, den ihr da geplant habt. Wäre doch schade, wenn da die eine Partei umkippen würde... Torrannor posted:Where will they get the Bundesrat votes for the Grundgesetzänderung? And why do we even need a PKW-Maut if we privatize the Autobahn anyway?? Auch privatisierte Autobahnen kosten Geld. (Privatisierung bedeutet ja nicht, dass man die Anteile an der neuen Autobahngesellschaft sofort verkauft. Die Deutsche Bahn AG wird ja auch noch zu 100 v.H. vom Bund gehalten.) Ich bin auch momentan noch nicht abgeholt, ob man tatsächlich die Autobahnen selbst in die Gesellschaften überführen will, oder ob man nur eine Finanzierungsgesellschaft plant. Und ÖPP [PPP] im Zusammenhang mit dem Bau und der Wartung von Autobahnen gibt es auch schon jetzt.
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Freut euch, bald habt ihr Zustände wie in Italien, nur mit schlechterem Essen.
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