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MonsieurChoc posted:It would help if trolls like Tezzor and Yaws would shut the gently caress up about the Prequels. U first bitch
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Can we do something about these trolls that keep saying that the sun does not revolve around the earth
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Cnut the Great posted:Well yeah The Force Awakens very consciously draws on Arthurian legend. As lots of people have pointed out Maz Kanata is an obvious analogue of the Lady of the Lake who gives King Arthur his sword. lol
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Korean trailer, a few new shots https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9ADCdHhjyw
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Phi230 posted:the prequels were right Zoran posted:The Prequels Were Right I'm glad we're all friends now 
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The prequels would have been more right if they elected Jabba.
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RBA Starblade posted:The prequels would have been more right if they elected Jabba.
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Rewatched TFA night before last until I fell asleep. (Not saying it was boring, I've just been sick and sleep-deprived.) Maz and Hux are indeed very very bad. BORMANN: We shall destroy the government that supports the Partisans, the United Nations. Without their friends to protect them, the Partisans will be vulnerable, and we will stop them before they reach Tito! Edit: Actually, it makes more sense in real life for Hitler to forget all the armies he's at war with than for Snoke to do the same. Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Nov 11, 2016 |
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Nov 11, 2016 18:41
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Captain Splendid posted:Korean trailer, a few new shots Some proper space battles. I dunno why it matters so much but it totally does. Pumped like hell.
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I have a star wars universe question that I thought up today. How do the Jedi treat force using people (let's just say humans) that don't give a poo poo about the jedi religion and aren't sith? Like, I imagine there could be some dude who's strong in the force but never gets found and just grows up with it. Let's say he even figured out how to control it/use it and does so. Do the Jedi just leave him alone? Give him some kind of ultimatum?
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They run bars and have statues erected if them at said bar.
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spacetoaster posted:I have a star wars universe question that I thought up today. The jedi are super "convert or die" so
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spacetoaster posted:I have a star wars universe question that I thought up today. Based purely on extrapolating from the blasé medical testing in the filmsif you're born in or ever visit a republic hospital you can be pretty drat confident your medical records get sent to the Jedi.
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Phi230 posted:The jedi are super "convert or die" so Barudak posted:Based purely on extrapolating from the blasé medical testing in the filmsif you're born in or ever visit a republic hospital you can be pretty drat confident your medical records get sent to the Jedi. Wow. I guess the fascists had to go then.
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Rey is obviously Luke's daughter and Hillary is obviously going to win.
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HotCanadianChick posted:The thing is, though, that the slight asymmetry of the original trilogy helmets gives Vader some of his presence- human faces are not symmetrical and by having a helmet that's not perfect, it looks more 'human' to the viewer, on a subconscious level. The Ep 3 helmet has always looked a bit off because it is too symmetrical - you get the same effect if you take a picture of your face and then divide it down the middle and mirror one side- it looks 'off' because it's now too symmetrical. Kinda related to the uncanny valley effect. You said it yourself: Vader isn't supposed to come across as human. IMO he has way more presence in TESB and ROTJ than in ANH and his mask is way more symmetric and emotionless in those films. The reason this works way better than the alternative is because of the Kuleshov effect. If allows you to read a wider range of feeling and intentionality onto Vader's mask depending on the context, other than just meanness and brutishness, which his mask in ANH pretty much limits him to. I don't want to harp on this point too much. I know it's kind of minor and silly. But it's emblematic of a larger creative mindset that I disagree with, is all. e: Seriously though, in the few instances from ANH where you catch a few of Vader's mask head-on he looks like a dog smelling a fart more than anything else:  That's probably why Lucas tried to avoid shooting him from that angle. He looks increasingly more soulless, robotic, and harshly geometrical (as he should be) in each successive movie he appears in, as the budget and machining processes improve:    I don't understand why people have this tendency to fetishize and worship the production difficulties and money problems that went into making a film far more than the actual artistic vision behind it. Things like Vader's warped, uneven helmet and rushed, rigid-looking X-wing fighter maneuvers are merely manifestations of the depredations of the banks and the money-men at the studios who never gave a poo poo about the movie in the first place. They don't deserve your veneration. Cnut the Great fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Nov 12, 2016 |
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spacetoaster posted:I have a star wars universe question that I thought up today. They wouldn't have access to Jedi training so it's unlikely they would pose any threat. Up until TFA blew this idea out of the water, there was never any indication that it was possible for a being to exhibit advanced Force abilities in the absence of any formal education. It's like if you're born a math prodigy. You're going to be way better than most people at the fundamentals of math, and might even be able to extrapolate outwards to some more advanced concepts, but the odds of you independently reinventing caclulus sans any formal education are very very low. Anakin was the most powerful Force user to have ever lived, and the extent of his naturally manifesting talents was simply that he appeared to have greater reflexes than a normal human, and perhaps a more generally powerful sense of intuition. This is also the extent of the abilities Luke manifested in ANH with only a bare minimum of education. Then after three years of what is implied to be self-study he barely manages to even call his lightsaber to him using telekinesis. Phi230 posted:The jedi are super "convert or die" so This really isn't borne out by the movies. They're perfectly willing to cut Anakin loose in TPM despite his prodigious abilities, and Dooku is allowed to leave the Order while remaining in good stead with them, senior members of the Council even defending his good character. Someone without training isn't considered a threat by the Jedi, and someone with training who decides to peacefully part ways with them is also not considered a threat, precisely because of their having undergone training. Furthermore, Anakin himself was threatened with expulsion from the Order if he didn't shape up, not imprisonment and/or execution. The Jedi actually seem to be very "live and let live", until they become generals in the Clone War. Cnut the Great fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Nov 12, 2016 |
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I'm not up and up with all the Extended Universe stuff, but I always got the impression that you could only really use the force to your advantage if you had proper training, no matter how force sensitive you were. Then again, you'd have to ask youtself: Who was the first one who figured out that you could harness this power, and how did he/she do it then?
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drunkill posted:
You clearly enjoy the same imagery as me. Holy hell does that look cool! Great job.
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The first gif has turbolasers from the Star Destroyer firing upwards at what I assume is the rebel fleet The last gif you see the CAP moving into attack from the rebel fleet Will we be getting a proper fleet action here???
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I think those turrets are on the orbital station/dockyard, which the Star Destroyer is docked at in the last gif. The TIE fighters are launching from the orbital platform too. I think it is a space elevator since there is a 'tray' of the cargo containers that the AT-ACTs carry in the middle of that forcefield-like thing. So there is at least one SD there, hopefully a few others nearby.
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Cnut the Great posted:I don't understand why people have this tendency to fetishize and worship the production difficulties and money problems that went into making a film far more than the actual artistic vision behind it. Things like Vader's warped, uneven helmet and rushed, rigid-looking X-wing fighter maneuvers are merely manifestations of the depredations of the banks and the money-men at the studios who never gave a poo poo about the movie in the first place. They don't deserve your veneration. I don't think I ever noticed the design of the helmet changed at all, to be honest.
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RBA Starblade posted:I don't think I ever noticed the design of the helmet changed at all, to be honest. Well, yeah, as was said, Lucas shot around the faults of the helmet.
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:Well, yeah, as was said, Lucas shot around the faults of the helmet. Yeah, but it looks different in the other shots as well. Or is it just the lighting?
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sassassin posted:Those shots look like a rigid impression of the Episode 3 opening. Immediately following the third gif the X-wings stop fighting and fly straight for 5 minutes to have a chat.
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Silver Brushes posted:I don't know if I should spoiler a fan theory or not, but what do you think about the notion (not mine) that Jyn's dad intentionally incorporated the exhaust port design flaw ? About at the same storytelling level as Anakin building C3PO.
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I can't tell if that means you think it's good or bad.
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Mameluke posted:I can't tell if that means you think it's good or bad. It depends. Do you think that prequels can ruin movies that came before them?
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feedmyleg posted:About at the same storytelling level as Anakin building C3PO. Jyn's dad intentionally incorporating the thermal exhaust port design flaw would be bad because it would undermine a central theme of the original films, which is that the Empire is arrogant in its pretensions to absolute power, and that even the strongest foe has an Achilles heel. Having the Achilles heel be an intentional act committed by a Rebel sympathizer would complicate that theme to the point of unintelligibility. It would be far more of a betrayal of the themes of the series than anything that appeared in the prequels. It's just such a horrible, horrible idea. Luckily, as far as I know, there's no reason to even suspect that it's the case. In contrast, Anakin building C-3PO by hand does nothing except emphasize C-3PO's peculiar connection to humanity and the natural world, and more specifically his thematic kinship to Darth Vader, elements which were inherent to the original films. It's not comparable to the above idea in any way, unless you're trying to make the argument that C-3PO's connection to the young Darth Vader is contrived in some way. Well, it isn't. There's absolutely nothing contrived about C-3PO and R2-D2's connection to the main characters in the prequels. The problem is that everyone always insists on looking at things backwards. The prequels, obviously, take place chronologically before the originals. The way the story of the prequels unfold, it ends up being perfectly natural for the droids to end up in the hands of the Organas serving them on their private blockade runner. From that point, it makes perfect sense that they'd end up at the center of the war of rebellion against the Empire, and it's perfectly plausible that the ever reliable Artoo would be entrusted with a secret mission to deliver a message to Ben Kenobi on Tatooine. Ben Kenobi, remember, is one of two remaining Jedi allies of the Rebels left in the galaxy, and also the very reason Bail Organa ended up in possession of the two droids in the first place (he's literally the one who brought them to Bail's blockade runner in Episode III). It isn't terribly surprising that any droid belonging to one of the leaders of the Rebellion would at some point come into contact with Kenobi, let alone two trusted droids who actually share a history with him. And the only reason Artoo and Threepio run into Luke first is because they're aiming for the part of the planet where Ben Kenobi lives, which is obviously going to be a stone's throw away from where Luke lives. And on a barren planet like Tatooine, where people live hundreds of miles away from each other across tracts of utterly barren desert, if they were going to run into anybody, it was going to be either Ben or Luke. All that's happening is Artoo and Threepio are bouncing around between the ownership of the Skywalkers, the Organas, and Obi-Wan Kenobi, all of whom are close associates of each other and who are therefore bound to come into further contact over the years. There's some coincidence involved, mainly regarding the circumstances in ANH wherein the droids come to be selected for this particular mission (and actually only Artoo was--Threepio just tagged along), but not any more than there ever is in any of the original Star Wars movies, and not as much as is commonly claimed. If the movies had come out in order, no one would even notice anything. Cnut the Great fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Nov 13, 2016 |
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Cnut the Great posted:Jyn's dad intentionally incorporating the thermal exhaust port design flaw would be bad because it would undermine a central theme of the original films, which is that the Empire is arrogant in its pretensions to absolute power, and that even the strongest foe has an Achilles heel. Having the Achilles heel be an intentional act committed by a Rebel sympathizer would complicate that theme to the point of unintelligibility. It would be far more of a betrayal of the themes of the series than anything that appeared in the prequels. It's just such a horrible, horrible idea. Luckily, as far as I know, there's no reason to even suspect that it's the case. The original theme will already be "undermined" in your point of view because the Empire is reliant on someone like Jeyn's Dad instead of being this untouchable and arrogant force. Not saying that I'm a fan of the idea of him including this design flaw but you can talk it away just like you do with C3PO and the prequels (just that this time the Empire's arrogance/failure would be to not notice that someone like Jeyn's Dad introduced such a design flaw).
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Nah it's a pretty big coincidence that c3po and r2 happened to know our heroes before. Not everything needs to be connected.
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rear end Catchcum posted:Nah it's a pretty big coincidence that c3po and r2 happened to know our heroes before. Not everything needs to be connected. It does in Star Wars, dude.
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