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rear end struggle posted:Enjoy 4+ years of well deserved terrorist attacks America! You've earned it! Hope we bomb the Ottoman Empire!
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rear end struggle posted:Enjoy 4+ years of well deserved terrorist attacks America! You've earned it! gently caress you.
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Let's create and arm jihadists all over the middle east and then abandon them as soon as it is convenient abandon them. I'm sure they won't bear any resentment at all when we start bombing for Assad.
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rear end struggle posted:Let's create and arm jihadists all over the middle east and then abandon them as soon as it is convenient abandon them. I'm sure they won't bear any resentment at all when we start bombing for Assad. Let's just arm the ypg and be their air force because marxism is better than jihad.
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Panzeh posted:Let's just arm the ypg and be their air force because marxism is better than jihad. I somehow think that the Russian's selected American cabinet won't arm communists who also have a low intensity war with Assad.
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Sinteres posted:Russia has directly assisted the YPG multiple times, including very recently. And they have bombed the YPG
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rear end struggle posted:I somehow think that the Russian's selected American cabinet won't arm communists who also have a low intensity war with Assad. The neocons already love the SDF cuz it checks all the boxes they want: it's a US-friendly group, they hold actual territory, the US has already set up a base (or two) there, and those bases provides an easy way to plop special forces and other spooks in Syria to get up to whatever fun poo poo the neocons want to do. I mean, what better place is there to destabilize Assad from than inside his own country? Meanwhile, the SDF has an incentive to let the US do whatever we want as long as we keep flying the US flags and keep Turkey from shooting at the SDF. Not too hard, since we don't want our SOF and other spooks getting shot at either. The SDF check Trump's boxes too: Trump's said he wants to work with Russia to "knock the hell out of ISIS", and the PYD has opened a Moscow office (among other places like Germany), so hey these SDF guys are a group the US and Russia can bigly agree on backing. Trump himself knows very little about the Middle East, but he falls into the "Kurds are the good guys" mindset: quote:DT: Oh, I thought you said Kurds, Kurds. quote:SANGER: You said that they could be much more helpful with ISIS. I’m sure perhaps they can. The big difference they’ve had is that we’ve been supporting Kurdish forces that have been very effective —— That type of mindset can be further influenced by targeted propaganda, and of course the YPG have made sure to keep the propaganda knob turned up to 11: https://twitter.com/DrPartizan_/status/796695883928764416 quote:Kurdish women of the YPJ on the #Raqqa front lines against ISIS terrorists. #WrathOfEuphrates Oh, and then there's this that just popped up: http://www.kurdistan24.net/en/news/...agrees--Advisor quote:A member of the newly elected president of the United States Donald Trump's American Middle East Advisory Committee (AMCT) on Friday said the new administration respects the people of the Kurdistan Region and their struggle for independence.
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Speaking of Turks and Kurds... https://twitter.com/Nawaroliver/status/797474488615129088 Turkish/FSA have been focusing their advance in the east and center and have just today extended the frontline with the SDF location around Manbij. So far things look to be going ok.
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rear end struggle posted:I think most neocons still support the Turks over the PKK. I don't think so actually now that Erdogan is swinging the pendulum back towards authoritarianism. A realist (Hi Clinton and Putin) would support the Turks pretty much no matter what to protect their sphere of interest but with Trump we could get literally anything.
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Meanwhile, some grim news about Egypt and its crashing economy. It would be a disaster of absurd proportions if Egypt collapses at this point. The IMF loan may help buoy things, but if the subsidy cuts turn into widespread anti-Sisi sentiment, that could get very ugly very quickly. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/12/world/middleeast/egypt-gets-final-imf-approval-for-12-billion-loan.html?_r=0
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suboptimal posted:Meanwhile, some grim news about Egypt and its crashing economy. It would be a disaster of absurd proportions if Egypt collapses at this point. The IMF loan may help buoy things, but if the subsidy cuts turn into widespread anti-Sisi sentiment, that could get very ugly very quickly. I wonder if SISI was under threat whether both Putin and Trump would back him militarily. He checks a bunch of boxes for the both of them. Of course, I don't know either the US or Russia would welcome the task of actually supporting Egypt financially.
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Saladin Rising posted:SANGER: You said that they could be much more helpful with ISIS. I’m sure perhaps they can. The big difference they’ve had is that we’ve been supporting Kurdish forces that have been very effective —— can't wait for trump to use THE ART OF THE DEAL to broker peace between erdogan and the kurds
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break-up breakdown posted:can't wait for trump to use THE ART OF THE DEAL to broker peace between erdogan and the kurds This actually isn't as unfeasible as you'd think. All it would take is aligning the government of Rojava under Barzani and the PDK. Good luck pulling that off by force though.
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ISIS ATGM footage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqKm5Xn8LJE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4aU1GNEHko
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Throatwarbler posted:ISIS ATGM footage Everybody in those videos will be dead soon.
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Volkerball posted:This actually isn't as unfeasible as you'd think. All it would take is aligning the government of Rojava under Barzani and the PDK. Good luck pulling that off by force though. And all my third date with Rhianna would take is drawing a few zeroes in my bank account, doing some squats and cutting an album or three before going to the right parties.
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Willie Tomg posted:And all my third date with Rhianna would take is drawing a few zeroes in my bank account, doing some squats and cutting an album or three before going to the right parties. Rojava is even less defended than Rihanna.
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Crossposting from the AIRPOWER thread: Satellite photos of the Admiral Kuznetsov being such a piece of poo poo it's visible from space. I wonder what the odds are on that thing actually making it to Syria and back under its own power.
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Luckily Sevastapol is still under the rightful control of the Russian federation, Turkey has again become friendly, and it's a heavy helicopter tending missile cruiser and not an aircraft carrier.
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Rent-A-Cop posted:Crossposting from the AIRPOWER thread: Nonsense, the Kuznetsov will return to Russia under the power provided by it's crew. 
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Wikipedia says it paused off Crete November 3rd so if that picture was taken on the 8th it's been sitting there for awhile.
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starkebn posted:are they burning coal in that thing? They are highly pressurized diesel boilers that are need of a total overhaul. The Kuznetsov has been delayed for a refit for a number of years at this point.
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rear end struggle posted:Enjoy 4+ years of well deserved terrorist attacks America! You've earned it! Yeah if your boy Erdogan attacks us, we'll level Turkey and both parties will declare the retaking of the Hagia Sophia for Greece to be right and just. Crowsbeak fucked around with this message at 06:02 on Nov 14, 2016 |
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Ardennes posted:They are highly pressurized diesel boilers that are need of a total overhaul. The Kuznetsov has been delayed for a refit for a number of years at this point. The Captain of that ship must be a very grumpy person
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So I'm in Israel right now and I wanna know: any faux pas I should avoid? I'm scared of saying some crazy poo poo and getting looked at sideways, and I think this is a particularly sensitive country.
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orange sky posted:So I'm in Israel right now and I wanna know: any faux pas I should avoid? I'm scared of saying some crazy poo poo and getting looked at sideways, and I think this is a particularly sensitive country. It is often pretty easy to not talk politics in everyday situations, you will be fine.
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double nine posted:madagascar. I bet they already closed their ports though.
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Current location of the Kuznetsov's battle group, based on the location of their fleet tanker:
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Zudgemud posted:It is often pretty easy to not talk politics in everyday situations, you will be fine.
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orange sky posted:So I'm in Israel right now and I wanna know: any faux pas I should avoid? I'm scared of saying some crazy poo poo and getting looked at sideways, and I think this is a particularly sensitive country. Just as you'd never mention Ukraine while talking to a russian you'll be just fine if you don't mention
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Crowsbeak posted:Yeah if your boy Erdogan attacks us, we'll level Turkey and both parties will declare the retaking of the Hagia Sophia for Greece to be right and just. You missed his point completely.
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starkebn posted:are they burning coal in that thing? This is a style among all Russian diesel things
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^^^starkebn posted:are they burning coal in that thing? MiddleOne posted:Just as you'd never mention Ukraine while talking to a russian you'll be just fine if you don't mention Speaking of which, I spent about two weeks visiting relatives who either advocated for or at least were cool with the Crimea annexation. It took a lot of effort to avoid engaging in any discussions about this and ignoring the nonstop propaganda that was on TV constantly, but I managed somehow and we ended up getting along well. Real life isn't D&D so as long as you don't bring these topics up yourself, everything should be fine, Israelis aren't all hypernationalist assholes.
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I have told my dad that he's a moronic idiot who doesn't understand maths on Facebook yet we get on ok face to face Truly the internet is bringing families together
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Ghost of Babyhead posted:Some sort of MRAP (perhaps a Casspir?) with extra armour panelling and a BMP turret attached to the top. That is not a CASSPIR nose. The nose looks like an Alvis Saracen.
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I have a coworker who is emigrating to Israel because of the Trump election and she told me I was racist when I said Netanyahu wasn't any better. Amazing.
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:I have a coworker who is emigrating to Israel because of the Trump election and she told me I was racist when I said Netanyahu wasn't any better. Amazing. To be fair, she probably wasn't afraid of Trump, just looking forward to a new home or retail establishment in East Jerusalem.
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