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Panzeh posted:Honestly y'all don't need to be in a coalition if you have no understanding of marxism-leninism or the way you sold out the communist party in the 50s. define "ya'll" here
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Koalas March posted:define "ya'll" here Y'all = "you people" 
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The irony, of course, is Lenin was pretty on board with the take down of oppression in all its forms.
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negromancer posted:Y'all = "you people" I honestly couldn't tell if he meant black people or not which is why I was asking before I blew his poo poo up
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Koalas March posted:I honestly couldn't tell if he meant black people or not which is why I was asking before I blew his poo poo up lol I don't know either and that comment came completely out of left field... Folks just driving through Negrotown yelling crazy poo poo.
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negromancer posted:lol I don't know either and that comment came completely out of left field... I'm expecting lots of posts that are the equivalent of some scared white dude sticking a confederate flag in his pickup and driving through a black neighborhood at top speed while screaming, "NIIIIIIGGEEEERRRSSSS GO HOOOOOOOMMME." Despite them, you know, being at home.
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Martha Stewart Undying posted:I'm expecting lots of posts that are the equivalent of some scared white dude sticking a confederate flag in his pickup and driving through a black neighborhood at top speed while screaming, "NIIIIIIGGEEEERRRSSSS GO HOOOOOOOMMME." Despite them, you know, being at home. Will that pickup be rolling coal the whole time for the full douche?
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PantherWill posted:Will that pickup be rolling coal the whole time for the full douche? Followed by stalling his engine and having a poc tow his sorry rear end home.
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Geostomp posted:All of the above. Alt-righters are usually young white men who expected the world to bow before them, and are stunned this was not the case. They deal with their feelings of inadequacy joining echo chambers that blame it all on everybody else. Women, minorities, LGBT people, "race traitors", somebody else is always there to explain why they aren't taking their "rightful" place. Latching onto white supremacy and often outright Nazism to boost protect their fragile egos and fears. Being angry and hateful is empowering and energizing in a twisted way, so they go for that instead of having to face the introspection that risks destroying their idea of self worth. Saying cluck like a rooster is the perfect way for them to express rage that their greatest achievement, being born white, doesn't actually promise them anything and shout that the world isn't conforming to their expectations. If they'd done one goddamn thing in their lives to be proud of...
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Martha Stewart Undying posted:I'm expecting lots of posts that are the equivalent of some scared white dude sticking a confederate flag in his pickup and driving through a black neighborhood at top speed while screaming, "NIIIIIIGGEEEERRRSSSS GO HOOOOOOOMMME." Despite them, you know, being at home. I like how you wrote the Doppler effect into it.
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PantherWill posted:Will that pickup be rolling coal the whole time for the full douche? Dixie horn too.
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Martha Stewart Undying posted:I'm expecting lots of posts that are the equivalent of some scared white dude sticking a confederate flag in his pickup and driving through a black neighborhood at top speed while screaming, "NIIIIIIGGEEEERRRSSSS GO HOOOOOOOMMME." Despite them, you know, being at home. I knew a dude like this in my town. Full swastika on his chest, would drive around singing poo poo from american history x, would spout vile poo poo about gay people constantly, the whole nine yards. A friend of mine at the time was a five foot tall flamboyantly gay cuban who decided his mission in life was to literally gently caress this guy in the rear end after finding out he lived two streets away. It took him about two weeks to do the deed, but he finally succeeded and proceeded to spread that poo poo across the entire town. Angry redneck dude left town in shame within a month.  Edit: Just in case ya'll needed a feel good story for your day.
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Cop Porn Popper posted:I knew a dude like this in my town. Full swastika on his chest, would drive around singing poo poo from american history x, would spout vile poo poo about gay people constantly, the whole nine yards. A friend of mine at the time was a five foot tall flamboyantly gay cuban who decided his mission in life was to literally gently caress this guy in the rear end after finding out he lived two streets away. It took him about two weeks to do the deed, but he finally succeeded and proceeded to spread that poo poo across the entire town. Angry redneck dude left town in shame within a month. Well that's taking "imma gently caress his rear end up" to a whole new level.
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Cop Porn Popper posted:I knew a dude like this in my town. Full swastika on his chest, would drive around singing poo poo from american history x, would spout vile poo poo about gay people constantly, the whole nine yards. A friend of mine at the time was a five foot tall flamboyantly gay cuban who decided his mission in life was to literally gently caress this guy in the rear end after finding out he lived two streets away. It took him about two weeks to do the deed, but he finally succeeded and proceeded to spread that poo poo across the entire town. Angry redneck dude left town in shame within a month. Was it... consensual?
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Lobster God posted:A couple of recent BBC documentaries may be of interest to those asking about minority experiences in the UK I know this was from a few pages back but thank you so much for these links. These are both super interesting and were great watches.
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While I know this thread is going in a lot of different directions, I'm interested in hearing about experiences about trans-racial adoption. How do you feel about children of color being adopted by white people? Is it another example of white supremacy? I know I've read horror stories about Native American adopted kids fostered by white families who only do it for the money (particularly in places like the Dakotas), and I can't imagine what black children go through in the foster care system. Somebody upthread (or in the Misogynoir thread) touched on having a family member raised by white parents that never touched on race. Granted, I'm privileged by being white, and I can only imagine a nasty culture shock from someone raised to think of a Just World only to have it smacked down because of their appearance. Hence I'm interested in personal experiences with people that grew up with adoptive parents that were a different race, both positive and negative. Prospective parents of foster care/adoption need to be mindful of the very real possibility that their children could be very different from them both physically and culturally. While everybody wants to bring up their children after their own culture for foster care or adoptive parents I feel like they need to be mindful of the cultural background of the children themselves. I've heard an anecdote that every parent of color has had to have the 'talk' with their kids; far from the birds and the bees I assume this talk is about how some people will refuse to treat them the same as they would treat white people. This is an experience obviously different than white people raising their white children under just world logic: "don't do anything that would look bad" "only bad people in the world get punished" "there is always a reasonable outlet for your feelings of anger/injustice". A white person raising up a child of color is going to need to be mindful of the fact that their own child won't necessarily have the privileges growing up they did, and because of that will need to make it a point to help their own child realize this. While I definitely agree white people have a TON of privileges, some white people for various reasons don't have the privileges of having children biologically and I'd be interested in the experiences of people under adoption/foster care.
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Cop Porn Popper posted:I knew a dude like this in my town. Full swastika on his chest, would drive around singing poo poo from american history x, would spout vile poo poo about gay people constantly, the whole nine yards. A friend of mine at the time was a five foot tall flamboyantly gay cuban who decided his mission in life was to literally gently caress this guy in the rear end after finding out he lived two streets away. It took him about two weeks to do the deed, but he finally succeeded and proceeded to spread that poo poo across the entire town. Angry redneck dude left town in shame within a month. wait wait you loving what
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Koalas March posted:this is a motherfucking joke right. The appropriation of Black Culture is a long standing tradition, unfortunately. Panfilo posted:While I know this thread is going in a lot of different directions, I'm interested in hearing about experiences about trans-racial adoption. How do you feel about children of color being adopted by white people? Is it another example of white supremacy? I know I've read horror stories about Native American adopted kids fostered by white families who only do it for the money (particularly in places like the Dakotas), and I can't imagine what black children go through in the foster care system. Somebody upthread (or in the Misogynoir thread) touched on having a family member raised by white parents that never touched on race. Isn't the adoption rate of minority children pretty horrible? I remember hearing that in the past, especially outside of *shudder* trendy adoptions.
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I think the message of the story was that the homophobe was closeted.
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Resident black poster checking in with rants and rambles. In the last month or so, I've started calling people out on their reaction to meeting me in person after only communicating via email or telephone. It's actually fairly amusing and entertaining, in a sense. People have the worst poker faces. Also, having been born and raised in Georgia until I moved to California to years ago, it's amazing how many folks--black and other--have only recently had to face overt racism. Meanwhile, I recall seeing an open field in the back woods with a platform on a large tree with the letters KKK spraypainted on at about age 6-7 and already being aware of what that meant at such a young age. (My father reacting to my confusion as to why there was a Jerry Springer's "Christmas with the Klan" episode around the same age was amusing, as he tried to tell me "not to worry about it" before I explained how I knew what the Klan was--just why they were on TV for entertainment.) A female Asian acquaintance, without irony, was absolutely floored when I regaled her with stories of microaggression and overt menacing from white men both in Georgia and California today. She revealed how she thought racism had ended and reemerged with Trump. My multitlracial student workers also, only recently, had never really encountered it as well. Holy poo poo, the Bay Area is a different world/bubble. Finally, I swear to god if I hear another white man whine about how black men have an easy time finding women to date based on a skewed perception caused by spending too much time watching porn--or focusing on the rare women that only date (or are curious about) black men--and lament their plight, I might have a nigga moment.
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Yeah, in Cali, especially the Bay Area, ESPECIALLY if you're fortunate enough to be white, I feel like we all live in a bubble. After the election, I thought people would be a lot more pissed off, but a lot of people were surprisingly like "well that's too bad, I guess we'll have to see what Trump does" as though what affected 80% of the rest of the country didn't matter. Even people of color I talked to didn't seem particularly worried or outraged, but again, we are in a way somewhat 'protected' from the worst potential effects. I would say the biggest problem is that people in the Bay Area see how everybody seems to get along and all and just projects that illusion on the rest of the US. It is so much harder for them to accept that it isn't the case. Admittedly, I can't blame them- [person of color has a crisis] [white person in the Bay Area] Cant you just (oh wait, your county/state doesn't have that option) Ok can't you just (oh, maybe someone in that situation isn't flush with cash to afford a lawyer) Well you can always move (assuming the person is willing to uproot everything to live in a distant place away from any support system they might have up to that point) I'll admit I was guilty of this for a long time. Working a government job in California gives you a really distorted view of just how lovely employers can treat you, because you are so insulated from the worst of it.
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Prowler posted:Finally, I swear to god if I hear another white man whine about how black men have an easy time finding women to date based on a skewed perception caused by spending too much time watching porn--or focusing on the rare women that only date (or are curious about) black men--and lament their plight, I might have a nigga moment. Hah, that reminds me of a data analysis the dating website OKCupid did years ago: (which also led me to my wife) They analyzed the rate of responses people of different ethnicities (as selected in their profiles) got to initial emails sent. They found that black men were the least likely to get a reply from any race of woman, followed by Latino men, with white men at the top (and Asian men trailing only a bit behind white men). For the women who replied, white women and Asian women almost never replied to black or Latino men, but replied to white or Asian men reasonably often. Latina women replied fairly often to white, Asian, or Latino men, but still rarely to black men. Black women, on the other hand, replied equally to more or less all ethnicities of men, and in addition, had the highest reply rates to initial emails of any ethnicity of women. But black women also had the lowest rate of being sent initial emails by men as well, by a large margin (white girls and Asian girls unsurprisingly got the most contacts by a large margin). Based on that study, and my dismal reply rate -about one reply for every 15-20 I sent out - for the (mostly white) girls around the portland area, I removed the distance restrictions and set it to only show black women as matches. Out of the first five black women I sent emails to, three replied back, and one of them ended up being the one who flew out here from NY to meet me, fell in love, moved in with me and then later got married to me. She's been the best, kindest hearted, and most supportive woman I've ever been with; and my only regret is that I had to go through so many self-absorbed, lying, cheating white girls and take so long to find her. The old saying is true: once you go black, you never go back. ...but if you're a black man, you're poo poo out of luck for finding a date anyways. 
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HotCanadianChick posted:Hah, that reminds me of a data analysis the dating website OKCupid did years ago: This is so true. As a Hispanic dude who uses tinder and OKC, the online dating scene is loving abysmal. Nothing like being asked the "Where are you really from?" question two messages in. That being said, this explains a lot about the Online Dating thread in E/N. Nothing like seeing a lot of progressive white liberals rationalize race as a preference.
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Forceholy posted:This is so true. As a Hispanic dude who uses tinder and OKC, the online dating scene is loving abysmal. Nothing like being asked the "Where are you really from?" question two messages in. Even in diverse places like the DC metro area is dire to date as a PoC. One of my fondest memories was of a date ending abruptly when my date realized I wasn't a citizen and couldn't get a green card out of me, so she stormed off.  I'm more or less done with online dating. Better to make an impression in person because it's easier to break down any barriers people might have about PoC (even other PoC--can't tell you how many black women profiles I came across proudly declaring they don't date black men).
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Forceholy posted:That being said, this explains a lot about the Online Dating thread in E/N. Nothing like seeing a lot of progressive white liberals rationalize race as a preference. People seriously just say "no blacks" or "asian women only" in some SA based dating thing and then say it's just a matter of taste? There's such a massive variety of shapes and features and figures within each "race" as well as cultures and personalities. I can see someone knowing after a lot of experience they tend not to get along with Saudi's or Australians, but to just write off a huge broad category of people seems... well... racist. Baronjutter fucked around with this message at 09:28 on Nov 13, 2016 |
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Baronjutter posted:People seriously just say "no blacks" or "asian women only" in some SA based dating thing and then say it's just a matter of taste? In the online dating thread they try to quibble about preferences and not finding certain skin colors/racial features attractive. It's as racist as any group of white people are when they don't think minorities are around.
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Baronjutter posted:People seriously just say "no blacks" or "asian women only" in some SA based dating thing and then say it's just a matter of taste? There's such a massive variety of shapes and features and figures within each "race" as well as cultures and personalities. I can see someone knowing after a lot of experience they tend not to get along with Saudi's or Australians, but to just write off a huge broad category of people seems... well... racist. It is more or less acceptable to talk about racial dating preferences in public, nevermind on the internet, under the guise of "well you can't help what you're attracted to".
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You have the Latino men and Asian men backwards, actually. I distinctly remember them talking about Asian men in relation to their black female counterparts. The Asian men thing is also true for gay dating. Martha Stewart Undying posted:I'm more or less done with online dating. Better to make an impression in person because it's easier to break down any barriers people might have about PoC (even other PoC--can't tell you how many black women profiles I came across proudly declaring they don't date black men). The first time I officially dated a black woman, we were each other's first. At age 29 (me) and 26 (her). That only ended because I was moving to California. Before that, I connected with a black woman who played video games and was agnostic, and I was her unicorn, of sorts. After California, I was yet anther black woman's first black boyfriend (26). So, why have y'all had such a difficult time dating black women? For me, most of the time, I represented husband material. Except the whole agnostic thing, which got me (actual quote) "sorry, my babies need to me raised with Jesus in their lives" type responses or lack thereof a vast majority of the time. There's also the physical and personality thing for other black women, but it seemingly otherwise always boiled down to religion. So: -Asian women, rare, infrequently racism from their perspective but usually parents (one partner had a sister whose black boyfriend wasn't allowed at her father's funeral; also a problem experienced by other black male friends). Aside from causal relationships, I've had no luck. -White women are a hugely mixed bag, ranging from objectification and racism to acceptance and curiosity. I'm so tired of "BBW" white women messaging me as though I'm their next dick ticket. -Latina women: no idea. Once I actually date one, I'll let you know. -Others: *shrug* My current partner of a year is Indian. Otherwise, I've dated mostly white women, but that's not exactly a glowing endorsement of tolerance when you hear some of my experiences dating them. Perhaps the most frustrating thing is the well-intentioned compliments I'll receive if I go on a date with someone skeptical. "Wow, I didn't expect such an intelligent conversation, can't remember the last guy who gave me one of those." "You have a really great attitude toward [homosexuality/women/racial issues/etc]" "I don't know what to do with you" (this one I've gotten verbatim three times in the past year; it is a phrase that reveals more than they intend). I've tried an experiment of messaging women on PoF (don't go there) without a profile picture, choosing only profiles that are looking for friends. The end result after sending pictures? Blocked a few times, instantly given number and told was handsome twice (turned out to be lying about the friend thing) twice, ghosted, otherwise,--uncommonly--normalish future interactions. Response rate was higher, even if some of the replies were pic requests, than with a pic. Race was listed in profile. Prowler fucked around with this message at 09:54 on Nov 13, 2016 |
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Oh, and finally: twice, when much younger, I was pulled aside by white women and encouraged to come out of the closet to them. That poo poo messed with me for a while before I realized they were struggling to reconcile the attributes "respectful and kind, feminist who calls men out on shittiness, isn't homophobic, articulate, skinny, and well dressed" with "black man." So, change that to "gay black man" and it all fits!
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Prowler posted:You have the Latino men and Asian men backwards, actually. I distinctly remember them talking about Asian men in relation to their black female counterparts. You're right, my memory of the exact details are very fuzzy after so many years.  Prowler posted:Oh, and finally: twice, when much younger, I was pulled aside by white women and encouraged to come out of the closet to them. That poo poo messed with me for a while before I realized they were struggling to reconcile the attributes "respectful and kind, feminist who calls men out on shittiness, isn't homophobic, articulate, skinny, and well dressed" with "black man." So, change that to "gay black man" and it all fits! Oh dear, it's like a spread of homophobic stereotypes in the middle of a big juicy racism sandwich. 
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Prowler posted:You have the Latino men and Asian men backwards, actually. I distinctly remember them talking about Asian men in relation to their black female counterparts. 
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I figure you'll get a kick out of this: Do you live in a bubble? A quiz Go straight to the quiz, take it and then look at who made the quiz if you didn't already know
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hackbunny posted:I figure you'll get a kick out of this: Is this The Bell Curve motherfucker? It's a weird quiz and I scored a 32 but I dunno what it's attempting to tell me really.
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Lightning Knight posted:Is this The Bell Curve motherfucker? Bingo Lightning Knight posted:It's a weird quiz and I scored a 32 but I dunno what it's attempting to tell me really. "Why Trump won" (retroactively)
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Yeah, i said that earlier, but I basically just quit dating because I didn't even feel like dealing with it any more. If I met someone along the way, all well and good, but I don't believe I will or even try to. Knowing the handicap I have gives me too much of a complex which makes it too hard for me to date, on the other side, so it's just messed up.
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Prowler posted:So, why have y'all had such a difficult time dating black women? For me, most of the time, I represented husband material. Except the whole agnostic thing, which got me (actual quote) "sorry, my babies need to me raised with Jesus in their lives" type responses or lack thereof a vast majority of the time. There's also the physical and personality thing for other black women, but it seemingly otherwise always boiled down to religion. I live in the Detroit area, where there is a huge amount of poverty in the area, and the demographic of that is mostly black. I'm also in my mid/late 30s. Black women that are attractive/maintain their health, have common interests with me and education get "taken" by white men with black fetishes when they're in their 20s. All that are left are those that I would not be attracted to. I get the BBW thing as well. This is a really touchy thing becaue you don't want to be too physically judgy, but there's the issue that you know they wouldn't message a white guy in your same position with the same frequency. If I was messaged by the super hot, fit, educated women that messaged my white friend with practically the EXACT same basic stats (income/height/weight/education/politics/religion/hair) as me on the site and very similar profiles, I wouldn't care. But the issue is, I was NOT messaged by them at anywhere near the same frequency, but was blown up by large white women constantly. It becomes a serious case of "what the gently caress," and you cannot help but get angry about it. I've dated every race, myself, and Indian/Asian/Middle Eastern is typically the roughest because (a) they typically don't even see you as a dating prospect in anywhere near the same frequency as black and white women, and (b) even if they do, there's like a 99% chance of their parents judging the hell out of you above and beyond the normal, as opposed to the 65% chance with white.
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Not to be unsympathetic to what you guys are talking about, but... LMFAOOO @ y'all struggling to date black women. That is not a thing common to the black experience. That's y'all. I've never heard any poo poo like y'all talking about in my life. Most black people usually date other black people, and people who somehow only manage to date outside their race are hella suspicious because that's something you pretty much have to go out of your way to do barring special circumstances. Also, gently caress the Bay Area. White people there are the worst kind of white people. Prowler posted:
Literally 92% of my experience with online dating. I've not even into white women, nor BBW, so the combination is wildly unacceptable, and why I don't online date. I think that's because of 2 things: 1) Hobosexual (this is not a typo) black men who use BBW women and exploit the fetish white women have. 2) BBW white women are pretty much on the low end of the scale of attractiveness and would rather settle for an attractive black man than a white man that's reflective of their situation (as in, a fat white dude). negromancer fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Nov 13, 2016 |
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Online dating is garbage and attracts the most lovely people, especially the ones who dont think it's racist to exclude whole demographics from their dating pool
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Marijuana Nihilist posted:Online dating is garbage and attracts the most lovely people, especially the ones who dont think it's racist to exclude whole demographics from their dating pool And the older you get the worst they are. It was tolerable at 26. At 31 LOL no.
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Marijuana Nihilist posted:Online dating is garbage and attracts the most lovely people, especially the ones who dont think it's racist to exclude whole demographics from their dating pool I disagree because I worked on the back end of online dating sites. Online dating draws normal people who think they're just putting a search preference out there on sites like OKC (pre OKC removing the race preference category from visibility because it resulted in minorities not contacting people that excluded them) or Match, not realizing that it broadcasts that preference to whoever looks at their profile. It's about as close as you can get to a double blind test when it comes to dating. Just like people couldn't realize why people who otherwise seemed so nice and normal screamed All Lives Matter and voted for Trump, they don't realize that most normal people around them "don't prefer" to date a black guy. The "most lovely people" are people that have been online forever and can't find a date or who are on and off all the time or who actually write dating preferences in there, but the numbers of "normal" people who have done a month on Match or tried Tinder for a bit and either met someone and gotten into a relationship, or didn't meet someone and quit are ridiculously high. And those people are the ones that are only searching for white men and putting a white preference on their profile, or subconsciously swiping every black man left on Tinder.
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