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iospace posted:Stepped down So why did he step down? I was told it was due to him not playing well with the blue dogs.
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Arri posted:Run Booker in 2020 to see Trump win again. It's going to happen. Somebody floated Tim Kaine in a different thread, and that really says it all, doesn't it?
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Mutant Standard posted:So why did he step down? I was told it was due to him not playing well with the blue dogs. As someone who liked my Blue dog senators/House members. gently caress the Blue dogs.
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Mutant Standard posted:So why did he step down? I was told it was due to him not playing well with the blue dogs. Didn't he just chase pharma money for a lobbying firm and that's why he shat on Sanders for advocating UHC in the primaries? Like, was it an amicable separation so he could lobby, or did lobbying come after the fact?
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Raskolnikov38 posted:oh yeah a self-made google survey with a sample size of 248 is definitely meaningful here's a bigger one http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president
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punk rebel ecks posted:Why the gently caress won't he stop wiping his nose? Woke Syndrome
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temple posted:This is good. However, when I say ber... people immediate shut down. I kinda just feel like giving up talking about politics with people that supported hillary because they just won't see racial justice needs economic justice to be successful. Again, the reason why that tickles some of their fancy is because it is so convenient for them as their taxes won't have to be raised or their pay would have to be diverted.. Racial issues don't effect them. However, the second they do the obvious happens. I'm just saying if the Democratic Party completely wins the entire working class, a lot of those liberal whites will begin hop sides, especially if the Republicans tone some things down. The urban upper class used to be solidly Republican for a reason.
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temple posted:This is good. However, when I say ber... people immediate shut down. I kinda just feel like giving up talking about politics with people that supported hillary because they just won't see racial justice needs economic justice to be successful. Just mention more progressive policies. Do some research on Keith Ellison's policies (he probably supports an agenda similar to Bernie's) and talk about those. If you mention Bernie because the primary was pretty contentious after an amiable start they think of you as an adversary but if you only talk about his platform-a platform which helps the poor and the needy-and don't mention his name you can keep those feelings from leaking in.
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MeatwadIsGod posted:Didn't he just chase pharma money for a lobbying firm and that's why he shat on Sanders for advocating UHC in the primaries? Like, was it an amicable separation so he could lobby, or did lobbying come after the fact? he literally won the house and the senate. probably figured ok im done time to cash out we got this
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This is the lamest inspirational quote I've ever heard.
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cory booker's gonna start anthony weiner-ing more women to build up the "i'm straight" cred for a 2020 run
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from a new york times article i googled:quote:Howard Dean will not seek a second term as chairman of the Democratic National Committee, ending a tenure marked by an aggressive attempt to reshape the mission of the committee – and to court support by the so-called Netroots – but also marked by frequent quarrels with Democratic leaders over his abilities and the direction he was taking the party. edit: quote:Dean's tenure at the DNC has been marked by a sharp disconnect between the grassroots of the party and the operative class. Automata 10 Pack has issued a correction as of 05:06 on Nov 14, 2016 |
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platzapS posted:This is the lamest inspirational quote I've ever heard. what's not inspirational about "if poo poo is bad just make it better"??
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:political correctness did not elect trump. the democratic party and especially the hillary campaign ignoring the economic concerns of the American working class, both white and minorities, did if you're familiar with zizek's other stuff, that's exactly his point. political correctness is an attempt to shut down, say, racism, without addressing the relationship between class struggle and racist ideology. trump says some vile poo poo, twitter eggs and your racist uncle say some vile poo poo, hillary and liberals are aghast but, crucially, offer no response beyond "naughty naughty", because going deeper than that would mean addressing the injustice of neoliberal economic policy (which is the thing that some otherwise potentially sensible people are getting angry about and dealing with by enacting white supremacist fantasies). liberals don't WANT rubes to move beyond racism and towards socialism.
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Mutant Standard posted:from a new york times article i googled: There was nothing official but everyone said Pelosi and Reid hated his guts and didn't trust his ideas to actually deliver. I'm sure he's already flooded their inboxes with 'boy wish we had a 50 state strategy huh' emails. He also hilariously owned Rham multiple times. Also as a bad Hillary poster I'm incredibly embarrassed how wrong and owned I am
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logikv9 posted:cory booker's gonna start anthony weiner-ing more women to build up the "i'm straight" cred for a 2020 run cory booker is the only man in history to set off gay rumors by texting a female stripper Also not looking forward to a bunch of rehashed cory in da house memes
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Mutant Standard posted:from a new york times article i googled: Hahahaha loving really how the gently caress did you manage to find a guy who managed to unfuck all your problems post-2000 and throw him out How.
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Run Booker and Cuomo in the primaries if you want Trump to win again in 2020, imo.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:There was nothing official but everyone said Pelosi and Reid hated his guts and didn't trust his ideas to actually deliver. I'm sure he's already flooded their inboxes with 'boy wish we had a 50 state strategy huh' emails. hilariously owning rham is a plus in my book. that pharma lobbying thing still taints him though and i'm going to stick with who bernie and warren endorsed.
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Arri posted:Run Booker and Cuomo in the primaries if you want Trump to win again in 2020, imo. God that's right, Cuomo's probably trying to position himself for that too. That fucker. That rear end fucker.
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didn't rahm throw a shitfit and quit the administration because they weren't triangulating enough
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Lol.Tatum Girlparts posted:Also as a bad Hillary poster I'm incredibly embarrassed how wrong and owned I am Yeah, you were really annoying. But as long as you apologize all is well and good.
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Mutant Standard posted:hilariously owning rham is a plus in my book. I don't know who he lobbied for exactly so I can't say how great a choice that was, but yea going from grassroots focus and working on people's day to day issues before tackling lofty goals right to 'pharma lobbyist' isn't a great look to get for yourself. Bro Dad posted:didn't rahm throw a shitfit and quit the administration because they weren't triangulating enough More or less, he threw a lot of shitfits. Fittingly one of the things Dean wrecked him on was calling out what a huge baby he was and saying that's why no one works with him instead of it being some big plot or whatever.
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Mutant Standard posted:Oh, Dean was a lobbyist for Dentons. Ugh come on Dean. Like, I still like him and want him to get the job and just start throwing office supplies at people while screaming 'what did we learn', but man gently caress Dentons.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:There was nothing official but everyone said Pelosi and Reid hated his guts and didn't trust his ideas to actually deliver. I'm sure he's already flooded their inboxes with 'boy wish we had a 50 state strategy huh' emails. Great, now you said it. Rham is totally going to run in 2020. Mutant Standard posted:hilariously owning rham is a plus in my book. I want Dean in charge of strategy but not touching policy.
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iospace posted:Great, now you said it. Rham is totally going to run in 2020. can we have ellison on policy and dean on strategy, can that work
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246 out of 300 million, and if his sample selection was poor, eg. in just a few areas of the country, then his entire thesis is easily falsifiable. Just LOL.
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Calling it now that it's gonna be Malloy/Booker If only because Malloy is going to be leaving CT with the last of the businesses soon enough
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Mutant Standard posted:can we have ellison on policy and dean on strategy, can that work that'd be a dream setup, yea. I'm not sure if there's an official title for Dean to have that'd let him be that but he could easily just be a 'consultant' or whatever to get him at the table to just beat people over the head with demographic maps.
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Well, they used to be friends, or at least friendly. Bill and Hillary attended Donald and Melanie's wedding back in 2004 or something like that.
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Arri posted:Run Booker and Cuomo in the primaries if you want Trump to win again in 2020, imo. I want them to run. I want them to be crushed. I desperately want one of these goddamn Clintonites to run so we can metaphorically put their goddamn head on a pike as a message to any would be challengers to the new progressive agenda.
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man i'm going to do it tomorrow regardless but i've got no idea what to say when i call my rep's office other than "no war but the class war fix the dnc motherfucker *click*" at least he's already a member of the progressive caucus
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Tatum Girlparts posted:that'd be a dream setup, yea. I'm not sure if there's an official title for Dean to have that'd let him be that but he could easily just be a 'consultant' or whatever to get him at the table to just beat people over the head with demographic maps. a co-chair model with divided responsibility has been used before. i still think dean as senior strategist or whatever is a better idea if he must be involved
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enraged_camel posted:Well, they used to be friends, or at least friendly. Bill and Hillary attended Donald and Melanie's wedding back in 2004 or something like that. but hillary said they're not friends! are you accusing her of flipflopping?
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Sojenus posted:man i'm going to do it tomorrow regardless but i've got no idea what to say when i call my rep's office other than "no war but the class war fix the dnc motherfucker *click*" Just do what I was planning on doing: quoting tweets from Nihilist Arbys
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Mutant Standard posted:can we have ellison on policy and dean on strategy, can that work It's what I want. Right now, the Democrats have to do this: 1. reorganize and fast. 2018 is going to be coming up quick. 2. get a solid policy down. 3. Figure out how to go about getting people elected. Once's that done, for 2018: 4. Manage to keep the GOP Statehouses below the convention threshold. 5. Manage to keep under 60 GOP Senators. 6. Poach some house seats if possible. Currently, the house can be written off as is, and it'll take a wave to flip it. Save that for 2020, though if 2018 is favorable enough, try there. Overplaying our hand in 2018 could cost us redistricting in 2020, which is why we need to stop the bleeding in 2018. 1st priority is to keep any amendments or a constitutional convention from happening. 2018 is a very favorable senate map for GOP pickups, so damage has to be limited there and how.
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As if I needed any more proof that Hillary wasn't actually going to do anything as President. I guess she really did believe her Super Predator comments still? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Tatum Girlparts posted:There was nothing official but everyone said Pelosi and Reid hated his guts and didn't trust his ideas to actually deliver. I'm sure he's already flooded their inboxes with 'boy wish we had a 50 state strategy huh' emails. Tatum you will be born anew in the baptismal fire of :bernget:
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