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iospace posted:It's what I want. You're not wrong in any way but gently caress you for reminding me that the concept of a Trump/Pence lead constitutional convention isn't literally impossible and now I'll never sleep. But yea hopefully the Dems just accept that congress is gonna be split for a good bit, but we can at least gently caress the senate up bad enough to hamstring the madness.
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# ? Nov 14, 2016 05:45 |
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Battle Royale Baby posted:Just do what I was planning on doing: quoting tweets from Nihilist Arbys he prominently supporting hillary and dismissed bernie in the primary so i'm not sure i could make him feel any more nihilistic right now i drat well can try though
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# ? Nov 14, 2016 05:45 |
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How dire is the map for 2018 in terms of the potential for the 3/5th's statehouses needed for constitutional convention stuff? Is that pretty much the last chance we have of keeping them from that kind of power? Hell has there ever been a point in the history of the country where one party had enough power to pass constitutional amendments?
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# ? Nov 14, 2016 05:52 |
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RedneckwithGuns posted:How dire is the map for 2018 in terms of the potential for the 3/5th's statehouses needed for constitutional convention stuff? Is that pretty much the last chance we have of keeping them from that kind of power? They need one more. I'm not loving joking.
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# ? Nov 14, 2016 05:54 |
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Eh, that's from before the election results. It's easy to say when you believe you're going to win.
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# ? Nov 14, 2016 05:54 |
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iospace posted:They need one more. I'm not loving joking. Only 1? I thought it was 5?
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# ? Nov 14, 2016 05:55 |
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I don't believe the Constitutional Convention scare-hype (although if it's useful in making people turn out for local elections, well...) republicans are god awful but there are some of them that will realize the unilaterally passing some constitutional amendment goes beyond party loyalty and is totally and 100%
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# ? Nov 14, 2016 05:56 |
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iospace posted:It's what I want. oh i think i'm gonna puke
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# ? Nov 14, 2016 05:57 |
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RedneckwithGuns posted:How dire is the map for 2018 in terms of the potential for the 3/5th's statehouses needed for constitutional convention stuff? Is that pretty much the last chance we have of keeping them from that kind of power? not quite 'dire' yet but if somehow we don't learn anything from last week then yes we're absolutely going to be in a situation where only a handful of morons aping trump's 'the foreigners took your jobs I'll make them give them back somehow' message can put us in that position.
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# ? Nov 14, 2016 05:57 |
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http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/obama-clinton-democrats-231301 obama and clinton talking to the dnc on monday.
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# ? Nov 14, 2016 05:57 |
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logikv9 posted:I don't believe the Constitutional Convention scare-hype (although if it's useful in making people turn out for local elections, well...) I don't think there's much risk of it actually HAPPENING but the fact that they would have that level of control over politics is enough to make me a bit queasy at all.
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# ? Nov 14, 2016 05:58 |
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and what loving amendment could they pass? balanced budget? no abortion? "REPUBLICANS WIN FOREVER" amendment?
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# ? Nov 14, 2016 05:59 |
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logikv9 posted:and what loving amendment could they pass? balanced budget? no abortion? "REPUBLICANS WIN FOREVER" amendment? abortion probs and some underhanded voting rights or moneyed interests thing.
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# ? Nov 14, 2016 06:00 |
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iospace posted:It's what I want. which amendment do you think they'll kill? Is it the one stopping Trump from having a 3rd term?
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# ? Nov 14, 2016 06:00 |
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iospace posted:They need one more. I'm not loving joking. oh god i'm gonna double puke
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# ? Nov 14, 2016 06:00 |
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logikv9 posted:and what loving amendment could they pass? balanced budget? no abortion? "REPUBLICANS WIN FOREVER" amendment? I think specifically the idea is pretty nebulous right now, but the fact that they would have the ability to turn their god awful ideas into actual constitutional amendments is terrifying
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# ? Nov 14, 2016 06:00 |
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Tatum Girlparts posted:I don't think there's much risk of it actually HAPPENING but the fact that they would have that level of control over politics is enough to make me a bit queasy at all. Yeah, at the very least it would give them a powerful weapon they can use to threaten the Dems if they try to play hardball.
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# ? Nov 14, 2016 06:01 |
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iospace posted:They need one more. I'm not loving joking. How did the Democrats gently caress up THIS BAD!? Not just this year, but pretty much how it snowballed into this. Why didn't the alarms ring after 2010?
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# ? Nov 14, 2016 06:02 |
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logikv9 posted:and what loving amendment could they pass? balanced budget? no abortion? "REPUBLICANS WIN FOREVER" amendment? uh depending on who wins the inevitable power struggle in the right that's looming, yea poo poo like 'no abortion' and 'gently caress queers' and all are absolutely possible agenda items. On the other end I'm 100% positive the economic wing would try to force through some kinda 'right to work' bullshit as national policy to just finish unions off. Shockingly, having the weight to possibly gently caress with our constitution means a lot of bad things can happen. Moreover, even if you (probably rightly) don't think anything that level would happen, just the fact that there's that much of a power imbalance between the right and the left should be enough reason to not want to hit that benchmark.
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# ? Nov 14, 2016 06:03 |
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one thing tho is state legislatures are much less... corruptible. there's a bunch of people who won't toe the line and are genuinely just enthusiastic about representing constituents. even in blue states theres lots of repub legislators that are just like "maybe less taxes but its cool" i would bet there would be a few people actually honorable enough to fall on the sword for our country there. but betting on that is loving scary.
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# ? Nov 14, 2016 06:03 |
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zen death robot posted:Revoke the 22nd only after they repeal the 17th
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# ? Nov 14, 2016 06:03 |
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punk rebel ecks posted:How did the Democrats gently caress up THIS BAD!? What's really is that liberals were having lots of fun with the seemingly endless Trump-GOP drama and were predicting the inevitable collapse of the GOP after the election.
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# ? Nov 14, 2016 06:05 |
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anime was right posted:http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/obama-clinton-democrats-231301 this is clinton's one chance to partially redeem herself, just say "i was wrong" and let the bernie wing takeover given how ungracefully she's taken the loss i'm fully expecting her to throw her weight behind some third way piece of poo poo
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# ? Nov 14, 2016 06:06 |
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Zikan posted:this is clinton's one chance to partially redeem herself, just say "i was wrong" and let the bernie wing takeover
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# ? Nov 14, 2016 06:08 |
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Zikan posted:this is clinton's one chance to partially redeem herself, just say "i was wrong" and let the bernie wing takeover if she's smart, she'll just throw it to whoever she thinks will actually win and start working behind the scenes for chelsea. i think she knows she's finished and has little political clout right now tbh.
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# ? Nov 14, 2016 06:08 |
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"The future of a party is clearly Cory Booker and Andrew Cuomo."
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# ? Nov 14, 2016 06:09 |
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is there some some web 3.0 bullshit website for finding... I dunno... political campaigns to participate in? advocacy groups to help out? hope? any way to channel this anxiety and anger into something productive?
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# ? Nov 14, 2016 06:09 |
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the only clinton i'll accept seeing again is socks
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# ? Nov 14, 2016 06:09 |
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enraged_camel posted:What's really is that liberals were having lots of fun with the seemingly endless Trump-GOP drama and were predicting the inevitable collapse of the GOP after the election. I kept telling people that they have to focus on the House, but they replied with "Demographics is Destiny" and to just wait it out 20 years because whites are too racist.
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# ? Nov 14, 2016 06:09 |
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punk rebel ecks posted:How did the Democrats gently caress up THIS BAD!? Smug certitude that they were morally right and would win in the long run
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# ? Nov 14, 2016 06:10 |
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Sojenus posted:the only clinton i'll accept seeing again is socks I know things are tough but please do not dig up cat bones
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# ? Nov 14, 2016 06:11 |
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"the demos duke, the demos!" "i'm colorblind, kid"
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# ? Nov 14, 2016 06:11 |
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anime was right posted:"the demos duke, the demos!"
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# ? Nov 14, 2016 06:13 |
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Tatum Girlparts posted:I know things are tough but please do not dig up cat bones sorry but my enthusiasm for a clinton has been noted by Ada and they're now digging up buddy for his 2020 run
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# ? Nov 14, 2016 06:16 |
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anime was right posted:http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/obama-clinton-democrats-231301 I unironically hope Zach yells at them too.
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# ? Nov 14, 2016 06:16 |
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anime was right posted:"the demos duke, the demos!" gently caress
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iospace posted:It's what I want. 2006 house election was an 8% difference, 2008 was a 10.6% difference, 2010 was a 6.8% difference, and 2014 was a 5.7% difference. A 6% difference would make things close enough in the house that it could become a poo poo show, and an 8% to 10% difference is absolutely enough to flip the house. Every midterm election in the last decade has been a wave election, and the largest waves this decade have been Democratic waves in response to an unpopular GOP president. The house can be in play you idiots, maybe don't sell yourselves short 700 days before the election even happens?
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also you don't need to actually pass a single thing, you'd just need enough D's to keep the GOP from passing anything you need way less seats to logjam than you need to legislate
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# ? Nov 14, 2016 06:21 |
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logikv9 posted:and what loving amendment could they pass? balanced budget? no abortion? "REPUBLICANS WIN FOREVER" amendment? you joke but... https://mobile.twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/93787072778874880
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# ? Nov 14, 2016 06:25 |
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I'm going to quote myself again because it's just so loving ridiuclous.punk rebel ecks posted:How did the Democrats gently caress up THIS BAD!?
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# ? Nov 14, 2016 06:26 |