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Ursine Catastrophe: Nov 9, 2009; It's a lovely morning in the void and you are a horrible lady-in-waiting.

don't ask how i know; Dinosaur Gum

bernie is good and cool. death is certain, inshallah. :bernget:

how many sex cakes do you think could feed a family of 4?

:duckie:

# ? Nov 15, 2016 04:41

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# ? May 11, 2024 13:44

ate shit on live tv: Feb 15, 2004; by Azathoth

Atrocious Joe posted:

Identity politics is a dumb phrase that apparently includes Marxism at this point since that focuses on people's identity as workers or capitalists.

Identity politics is whatever you want it to be in your heart.

drat lastgirl got to post this complaint before me

Identity Politics is a Privileged Distraction.

# ? Nov 15, 2016 04:43

Souai: Dec 16, 2007

In Ellison news, the Wisconsin Dem Chair Martha Laning endorses:

http://www.wisdems.org/news/democratic-party-of-wisconsin-chair-endorses-rep-keith-ellison-for-dnc-chair

# ? Nov 15, 2016 04:45

OhFunny: Jun 26, 2013; EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

I just got home.

I drove an hour to attend my County Democrat Meeting and got to speak during open forum.

I said I was there because I was angry. Angry that Donald Trump is President and Hillary Clinton. That I was also angry that labor had been ignored this election. That we lost Wisconsin and Michigan, the most union states, because we didn't speak to labor issues. Donald Trump spoke to workers about how he was going to bring jobs back from China. He's lying of course, but lies are better than silence. I said Democrats need to make labor the #1 priory going forward from the local to the national level and the strongest voice for that would be to support Keith Ellison as the next DNC chairman.

Everyone applauded and a woman came up to me later to thank me for speaking and that they needed more rabble rousers. :3:

I'm feeling pretty good right now.

# ? Nov 15, 2016 04:47

Al!: Apr 2, 2010

Ursine Catastrophe posted:

bernie is good and cool. death is certain, inshallah. :bernget:

how many sex cakes do you think could feed a family of 4?

woah!!! nice sig!!!!!!!!!!!

# ? Nov 15, 2016 04:47

logikv9: Mar 5, 2009; Ham Wrangler

Lastgirl posted:

This.

Mods, can we just start probating identity politics chat? I feel like it's a necessity because we keep looping right the gently caress back to it and god knows D&D has plenty of circular firing squads for this over their threads.

"We should reform education."

"Why should we when people are getting gunned down in the street?"

"We should probably look to shifting off the industrial model so people can find some financial stability and be put to work instead of drinking away in their dilapidated rural homes and misdirecting their rage and worsening the cascading effects of all the messes we're in."

"LMAO "ECONOMIC ANXIETY!" LMAO. Btw people are being gunned down in the streets."

"We should probably focus on some outreach programs that gives minorities gainful vocational employment, towards infrastructure, healthcare, and robotics in the long run."

"Pfft as that will ever exist with institutional racism."

"Yeah which is why we should prioritize the issues and list them out to erode the symptoms that causes such institutions because it's not going away overnight."

Or we could just go with the c-spam posting route of

"bernie is good and cool. death is certain, inshallah." :bernget:

"how many sex cakes do you think could feed a family of 4?"

I prefer that.

my take: no

# ? Nov 15, 2016 04:47

theHUNGERian: Feb 23, 2006

Sorry for the day crew question, but given that none of the news outlets I follow predicted this outcome, I am worried that I live in an echo chamber. What news outlet(s) should I be following to get the most balanced news coverage? Laughing in my face while saying "they all suck" is an acceptable answer.

# ? Nov 15, 2016 04:48

Lastgirl: Sep 7, 1997; Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

logikv9 posted:

my take: no

# ? Nov 15, 2016 04:48

Zikan: Feb 29, 2004

OhFunny posted:

I just got home.

I drove an hour to attend my County Democrat Meeting and got to speak during open forum.

I said I was there because I was angry. Angry that Donald Trump is President and Hillary Clinton. That I was also angry that labor had been ignored this election. That we lost Wisconsin and Michigan, the most union states, because we didn't speak to labor issues. Donald Trump spoke to workers about how he was going to bring jobs back from China. He's lying of course, but lies are better than silence. I said Democrats need to make labor the #1 priory going forward from the local to the national level and the strongest voice for that would be to support Keith Ellison as the next DNC chairman.

Everyone applauded and a woman came up to me later to thank me for speaking and that they needed more rabble rousers.

I'm feeling pretty good right now.

didn't say "full communism now" get out neoliberal

but seriously thank you and good job!

# ? Nov 15, 2016 04:49

The_Politics_Man: Aug 25, 2015

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

Podesta is a piece of poo poo and a massive racist that implied that Ecuadorian people were uncivilized savages for not having lobster risotto in their embassy.

loving purge every Clinton tainted prick out of the party. Let them have their risotto and their wine. We need solutions for the working class and immigrants. Not rich neoliberal fucks.

collectivize the drug farms

# ? Nov 15, 2016 04:49

Atrocious Joe: Sep 2, 2011

In order to move beyond Identity Politics we must all become part of a shared consciousness, where individual identity is abolished.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pL-sYwiioeY

# ? Nov 15, 2016 04:49

Vox Nihili: May 28, 2008

"Identity Politics" is sort of a boogeyman phrase but it captures the heart of the matter: Dems must be a party for all underprivileged people, including workers and the broader working class, to win at the national level. If we start infighting about which identity is the Real Underprivileged Group we fall apart.

# ? Nov 15, 2016 04:49

Lemming: Apr 21, 2008

OhFunny posted:

I just got home.

I drove an hour to attend my County Democrat Meeting and got to speak during open forum.

I said I was there because I was angry. Angry that Donald Trump is President and Hillary Clinton. That I was also angry that labor had been ignored this election. That we lost Wisconsin and Michigan, the most union states, because we didn't speak to labor issues. Donald Trump spoke to workers about how he was going to bring jobs back from China. He's lying of course, but lies are better than silence. I said Democrats need to make labor the #1 priory going forward from the local to the national level and the strongest voice for that would be to support Keith Ellison as the next DNC chairman.

Everyone applauded and a woman came up to me later to thank me for speaking and that they needed more rabble rousers.

I'm feeling pretty good right now.

I'm going to one Wednesday, did you get any follow up information about how things move forward? I'm planning on agitating for him as well, but I want to do more than show up for a meeting every so often.

# ? Nov 15, 2016 04:49

iospace: Jan 19, 2038

Souai posted:

In Ellison news, the Wisconsin Dem Chair Martha Laning endorses:

http://www.wisdems.org/news/democratic-party-of-wisconsin-chair-endorses-rep-keith-ellison-for-dnc-chair

Good. I need to get more involved, but my schedule is this: school-school-school-school-work-work-work :rip:

# ? Nov 15, 2016 04:49

Sheng-Ji Yang: Mar 5, 2014

Atrocious Joe posted:

In order to move beyond Identity Politics we must all become part of a shared consciousness, where individual identity is abolished.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pL-sYwiioeY

agreed

# ? Nov 15, 2016 04:50

logikv9: Mar 5, 2009; Ham Wrangler

You have to be pretty delusional to think that Podesta was disparaging Ecuadorian cuisine. But hey if you have a drug farm there maybe you grow to like that cuisine quickly!!

# ? Nov 15, 2016 04:50

Ursine Catastrophe: Nov 9, 2009; It's a lovely morning in the void and you are a horrible lady-in-waiting.

don't ask how i know; Dinosaur Gum

theHUNGERian posted:

Sorry for the day crew question, but given that none of the news outlets I follow predicted this outcome, I am worried that I live in an echo chamber. What news outlet(s) should I be following to get the most balanced news coverage? Laughing in my face while saying "they all suck" is an acceptable answer.

the only news outlets that were predicting a trump win are the ones who think the wall is a fantastic idea, so i'm going to err on the side of "they all suck"

# ? Nov 15, 2016 04:50

Lastgirl: Sep 7, 1997; Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Atrocious Joe posted:

In order to move beyond Identity Politics we must all become part of a shared consciousness, where individual identity is abolished.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pL-sYwiioeY

Full ~~Communism~~ Transhumanism now!

# ? Nov 15, 2016 04:51

bump_fn: Apr 12, 2004; _{two of them}

OhFunny posted:

I just got home.

I drove an hour to attend my County Democrat Meeting and got to speak during open forum.

I said I was there because I was angry. Angry that Donald Trump is President and Hillary Clinton. That I was also angry that labor had been ignored this election. That we lost Wisconsin and Michigan, the most union states, because we didn't speak to labor issues. Donald Trump spoke to workers about how he was going to bring jobs back from China. He's lying of course, but lies are better than silence. I said Democrats need to make labor the #1 priory going forward from the local to the national level and the strongest voice for that would be to support Keith Ellison as the next DNC chairman.

Everyone applauded and a woman came up to me later to thank me for speaking and that they needed more rabble rousers.

I'm feeling pretty good right now.

i'm jealous i really wish i could do that but i can't for the life of me figure out when the chicago one is (no surprise there)

# ? Nov 15, 2016 04:52

ate shit on live tv: Feb 15, 2004; by Azathoth

theHUNGERian posted:

Sorry for the day crew question, but given that none of the news outlets I follow predicted this outcome, I am worried that I live in an echo chamber. What news outlet(s) should I be following to get the most balanced news coverage? Laughing in my face while saying "they all suck" is an acceptable answer.

Don't look for Pundit's "hot takes." Look for interviews, and polls. Basically primary sources. For example, what does Jaime Harrison say about his odorous relation with the Podesta Group? Well lets watch Rachel Maddow because she has him on. "It's to feed the kids." :what:

Welp at least we know.

# ? Nov 15, 2016 04:52

Atrocious Joe: Sep 2, 2011

theHUNGERian posted:

Sorry for the day crew question, but given that none of the news outlets I follow predicted this outcome, I am worried that I live in an echo chamber. What news outlet(s) should I be following to get the most balanced news coverage? Laughing in my face while saying "they all suck" is an acceptable answer.

Bill Mitchel and YourVoice Radio apparently

https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/762497721831874561

# ? Nov 15, 2016 04:52

Beachcomber: May 21, 2007; Another day in paradise.; Slippery Tilde

Helpful/hurtful?: posters and billboards reading "what class are you?"

I feel like most people just assume they're middle class and have never even considered that they're not

# ? Nov 15, 2016 04:54

Zythrst: May 31, 2011; Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!

logikv9 posted:

You have to be pretty delusional to think that Podesta was disparaging Ecuadorian cuisine. But hey if you have a drug farm there maybe you grow to like that cuisine quickly!!

I think we've all learned that Mr. Podesta has a very refined palate indeed. :ghost:

# ? Nov 15, 2016 04:56

ate shit on live tv: Feb 15, 2004; by Azathoth

Beachcomber posted:

Helpful/hurtful?: posters and billboards reading "what class are you?"

I feel like most people just assume they're middle class and have never even considered that they're not

That's the secret. "It could be worse therefore I shouldn't complain." is the message.

# ? Nov 15, 2016 04:58

OhFunny: Jun 26, 2013; EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

Lemming posted:

I'm going to one Wednesday, did you get any follow up information about how things move forward? I'm planning on agitating for him as well, but I want to do more than show up for a meeting every so often.

I didn't think to do that. I just left when the meeting adjourned. Many of the local town chairman were in attendance. I'll contact mine and ask about it sometime this week.

# ? Nov 15, 2016 04:59

Zythrst: May 31, 2011; Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!

Beachcomber posted:

Helpful/hurtful?: posters and billboards reading "what class are you?"

I feel like most people just assume they're middle class and have never even considered that they're not

It sort of depends, if you get to a certain level of poor you can't fool yourself anymore.

# ? Nov 15, 2016 04:59

LegionAreI: Nov 14, 2006; Lurk

bump_fn posted:

i'm jealous i really wish i could do that but i can't for the life of me figure out when the chicago one is (no surprise there)

I'm happy to go to mine but the next meeting apparently isn't until January for some ridiculous reason

# ? Nov 15, 2016 05:01

KIND OF A KIM DEAL: Oct 28, 2016; by zen death robot

Lastgirl posted:

This.

Mods, can we just start probating identity politics chat? I feel like it's a necessity because we keep looping right the gently caress back to it and god knows D&D has plenty of circular firing squads for this over their threads.

"We should reform education."

"Why should we when people are getting gunned down in the street?"

"We should probably look to shifting off the industrial model so people can find some financial stability and be put to work instead of drinking away in their dilapidated rural homes and misdirecting their rage and worsening the cascading effects of all the messes we're in."

"LMAO "ECONOMIC ANXIETY!" LMAO. Btw people are being gunned down in the streets."

"We should probably focus on some outreach programs that gives minorities gainful vocational employment, towards infrastructure, healthcare, and robotics in the long run."

"Pfft as that will ever exist with institutional racism."

"Yeah which is why we should prioritize the issues and list them out to erode the symptoms that causes such institutions because it's not going away overnight."

Or we could just go with the c-spam posting route of

"bernie is good and cool. death is certain, inshallah." :bernget:

"how many sex cakes do you think could feed a family of 4?"

I prefer that.

Get people in elected office that actually give a poo poo about (and hold them responsible to serve) the working class and from that point on pressing social justice issues will naturally become part of the cause, but if it's continually the other way around the fight will get struck down nearly every time and inevitably nothing will ever get repaired economically in this country and the struggle will continue to die on that hill time and time again.

# ? Nov 15, 2016 05:01

Souai: Dec 16, 2007

That is part of the difficulty in appealing to the working class. I know a lot of people consider literally having a full time job at minimum wage to be middle class. The barest of making ends meet means I'm middle class etc.

You get variances of no wealth 25k income to millionaires with 250k income meaning middle class. Everyone wants to identify as middle class.

# ? Nov 15, 2016 05:02

Atrocious Joe: Sep 2, 2011

Beachcomber posted:

Helpful/hurtful?: posters and billboards reading "what class are you?"

I feel like most people just assume they're middle class and have never even considered that they're not

This feels like how Occupy started

# ? Nov 15, 2016 05:03

punk rebel ecks: Dec 11, 2010; A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

So I found my State Speaker's email address.

It was missing on the list but here it:

mmadigan@housedem.state.il.us

What do I write exactly if I want Keith Ellison as the DNC chair?

# ? Nov 15, 2016 05:04

Atrocious Joe: Sep 2, 2011

punk rebel ecks posted:

So I found my State Speaker's email address.

It was missing on the list but here it:

mmadigan@housedem.state.il.us

What do I write exactly if I want Keith Ellison as the DNC chair?

Donate to his campaign fund and make sure to use his associated law firm for any of your legal needs. Then maybe try to get a meeting to express your concern.

# ? Nov 15, 2016 05:06

GlobglogGroAbgalab: Jul 25, 2016; It appears that the elephant is highly sensitive to the effects of LSD - a finding which may prove to be valuable in elephant-control work in Africa.

Beachcomber posted:

Helpful/hurtful?: posters and billboards reading "what class are you?"

I feel like most people just assume they're middle class and have never even considered that they're not

I was raised to believe that my family was middle class when in fact we were poors.

I also somehow didn't realize that my parents were fats. I should have known, though. They taught me to wipe my butt all wrong.

In all seriousness though, I think a lot of people either don't realize they're poor or don't want to realize. And when you put two incomes together, it muddies the water even more. How secure do you have to be to not be poor? How long could you keep a roof over your head if you lost your job? If you were sick? Issues regarding lower class workers would be easy to ignore if you don't realize that the concern you personally.

GlobglogGroAbgalab has issued a correction as of 05:10 on Nov 15, 2016

# ? Nov 15, 2016 05:06

KIND OF A KIM DEAL: Oct 28, 2016; by zen death robot

Souai posted:

That is part of the difficulty in appealing to the working class. I know a lot of people consider literally having a full time job at minimum wage to be middle class. The barest of making ends meet means I'm middle class etc.

You get variances of no wealth 25k income to millionaires with 250k income meaning middle class. Everyone wants to identify as middle class.

Yes I'm strictly only referring to able bodied people capable of working between the 15%-25% Federal tax bracket.

Go to bed or go screw

# ? Nov 15, 2016 05:06

Gringostar: Nov 12, 2016; Morbid Hound

punk rebel ecks posted:

So I found my State Speaker's email address.

It was missing on the list but here it:

mmadigan@housedem.state.il.us

What do I write exactly if I want Keith Ellison as the DNC chair?

You should probably call him (773) 581-8000

# ? Nov 15, 2016 05:07

Zikan: Feb 29, 2004

punk rebel ecks posted:

So I found my State Speaker's email address.

It was missing on the list but here it:

mmadigan@housedem.state.il.us

What do I write exactly if I want Keith Ellison as the DNC chair?

that e-mail doesn't work, we've tried it repeatedly and get failed to deliver messages

# ? Nov 15, 2016 05:08

surfacelevelspeck: Oct 1, 2008; communism's sleepiest soldier

LegionAreI posted:

I'm happy to go to mine but the next meeting apparently isn't until January for some ridiculous reason

Looks like I missed the bus on my local parties as well. WilCo Democrats held their monthly meeting on the 10th, and the Texas Democratic Party holds their meetings...sometime? I think I remember it being the first Thursday of the month, but it's impossible to find anything on their website.

I'm kind of surprised nobody is scheduling any party meetings or anything, considering the complete shellacking we just received and all the poo poo going on in the party at large right now.

# ? Nov 15, 2016 05:09

Atrocious Joe: Sep 2, 2011

Zikan posted:

that e-mail doesn't work, we've tried it repeatedly and get failed to deliver messages

this is Illinois Dems as gently caress

# ? Nov 15, 2016 05:09

bump_fn: Apr 12, 2004; _{two of them}

punk rebel ecks posted:

So I found my State Speaker's email address.

It was missing on the list but here it:

mmadigan@housedem.state.il.us

What do I write exactly if I want Keith Ellison as the DNC chair?

i tried emailing that on friday and it bounced

call the office instead

# ? Nov 15, 2016 05:09

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# ? May 11, 2024 13:44

Fulchrum: Apr 16, 2013; by R. Guyovich

Zythrst posted:

Also its narrated by Bernie and Mark Ruffalo so now I want Bernie to be in The Avengers.

90% of the audience - "why did Stan Lee shave his moustache?".

OhFunny posted:

I just got home.

I drove an hour to attend my County Democrat Meeting and got to speak during open forum.

I said I was there because I was angry. Angry that Donald Trump is President and Hillary Clinton. That I was also angry that labor had been ignored this election. That we lost Wisconsin and Michigan, the most union states, because we didn't speak to labor issues. Donald Trump spoke to workers about how he was going to bring jobs back from China. He's lying of course, but lies are better than silence. I said Democrats need to make labor the #1 priory going forward from the local to the national level and the strongest voice for that would be to support Keith Ellison as the next DNC chairman.

Everyone applauded and a woman came up to me later to thank me for speaking and that they needed more rabble rousers.

I'm feeling pretty good right now.

And that woman's name was Albert Einstein.

Seriously though, why are people saying Ellisson is the only choice for a labor focused Dem party? Does he have experience as a strike leader or a union boss or something?

Not being dismissive, I just want to know what exactly people are referring to.

# ? Nov 15, 2016 05:16

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