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K. Waste
Feb 27, 2014

MORAL:
To the vector belong the spoils.

Basebf555 posted:

At their best the Bond films are a great travelogue series. They're usually shot pretty well and make great use of exotic locations, the Connery Bonds look great on blu ray.

The best part of any Bond movie is when he finally confronts the "anti-bond." Like, Dr. No is exactly like a bad travelogue up and until you finally actually meet Dr. No, and then suddenly the film's imperialist setting and politics are faced with this subdued "yellow peril" specter who is also, as he makes blatant reference in his egomaniacal pontificating, a "ethnic heterodox" figure. From Russia with Love is a vast improvement, though, even what with its hypersexualized depiction of the "native" gypsy women - it boils down the entire formal structure of the film to Bond's clandestine struggle against this nameless figure who is basically him, but for "the other side." It's wickedly gripping on a psychosexual level - and very homoerotic at times, although in a proto-Cruising, sadomasochistic way.

Honestly, I think Goldfinger is way less gripping than From Russia with Love, too - And not just because of... Well, you know the scene.

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7 RING SHRIMP
Oct 3, 2012

that is a ridiculous amount of adjectives and words i cannot understand

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
UNGH LET ME LICK THOSE BOOTS DADDY HULU ;-* ;-* ;-* YES YES GIVE ME ALL THE CORPORATE CUMMIES :shepspends: :shepspends: :shepspends: ADBLOCK USERS DESERVE THE DEATH PENALTY, DON'T THEY DADDY?
WHEN THE RICH GET RICHER I GET HORNIER :a2m::a2m::a2m::a2m:

Basebf555 posted:

the Connery Bonds look great on blu ray.

Agreed, the quality is remarkable. Rivals Bladerunner in a "best blu-ray image quality from old movie" contest.

Die Sexmonster!
Nov 30, 2005

4 RING SHRIMP posted:

that is a ridiculous amount of adjectives and words i cannot understand

welcome to Trump's America :(

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.

4 RING SHRIMP posted:

that is a ridiculous amount of adjectives and words i cannot understand

"all the best bond villains are evil foreign / gay / radical versions of james bond and he wanna bang them, so instead he bangs them by proxy through their henchwomen"

with a little bit of

"this is probably bad for bond and will eventually result in him getting his dick lasered off, figuratively if not literally"

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

I still quite like the way they stage and frame Blofeld throughout the film.

Also the opening scene is awesome, as is the train fight.

magnificent7
Sep 22, 2005

THUNDERDOME LOSER
After Goldmember they all went to poo poo.

Die Sexmonster!
Nov 30, 2005

magnificent7 posted:

After Goldmember they all went to poo poo.

Nooo, Goldmember was the lovely one.

A MIRACLE
Sep 17, 2007

All right. It's Saturday night; I have no date, a two-liter bottle of Shasta and my all-Rush mix-tape... Let's rock.

Lol, Goldmember was an Austin Powers movie

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

I still quite like the way they stage and frame Blofeld throughout the film.

Yeah, like Skyfall, Spectre is really well staged and directed, and the photography is great, but ye gods, that script is just an absolute mess. I don't blame Craig for being reticent to return to the role when half of his Bond movies have involved much of the thing being rewritten in the middle of filming (although, at least on Spectre, he wasn't the one doing the writing).

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
The second Austin powers movie is better than a good half of the bond films.

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot

Metal Geir Skogul posted:

The second Austin powers movie is better than a good half of the bond films.
oh come on now, that's a pretty extreme stance

FrankeeFrankFrank
Apr 21, 2005

Say word son.

GonSmithe posted:

Movie is amazing, everyone watch it.

Unless you're really squeamish.

I want to ask this as non-troll-y as possible... but why is it good?

I heard great things about it, so I rented it 6 months ago or whatever, and was really disappointed. To me it's nothing more than HOSTEL, and the 50 other movies just like HOSTEL. Innocent teens get caught in a bad situation through no fault of their own and are tortured and killed. And if your movie has the grossest kill scene your movie is the best. The only things unique about this movie were that they weren't on spring break, and captain Picard is racist... I think....

Im going to watch it again right now.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

FrankeeFrankFrank posted:

Im going to watch it again right now.

Yeah, do this, because it doesn't look like you paid a ton of attention. The only thing Green Room and Hostel have in common is that they both have gore, and they use gore way differently.

MeatwadIsGod
Sep 30, 2004

Foretold by Gyromancy
The best Bond movie is Metal Gear Solid 3.

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

MeatwadIsGod posted:

The best Bond movie is Metal Gear Solid 3.

Turning Bond from a sociopath to an autistic man was a stroke of genius.

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot

MeatwadIsGod posted:

The best Bond movie is Metal Gear Solid 3.The Phantom Pain

Detective No. 27 posted:

Turning Bond from a sociopath to an autistic man was a stroke of genius.
He always was one - we just used to reward men for being completely unable to function in regular life, for being "Special", and now they get put in "special"ed because nobod wants to put up with a pants-wetting adult man who will attack you for no reason based on things only he sees in his mind

coyo7e fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Nov 16, 2016

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
UNGH LET ME LICK THOSE BOOTS DADDY HULU ;-* ;-* ;-* YES YES GIVE ME ALL THE CORPORATE CUMMIES :shepspends: :shepspends: :shepspends: ADBLOCK USERS DESERVE THE DEATH PENALTY, DON'T THEY DADDY?
WHEN THE RICH GET RICHER I GET HORNIER :a2m::a2m::a2m::a2m:

magnificent7 posted:

After Goldmember they all went to poo poo.

Assuming you meant Goldfinger, it's easily the worst Bond movie. Bond rapes a lesbian straight and literally and I mean literally plays no role in stopping the bad guy.

Spatulater bro!
Aug 19, 2003

Punch! Punch! Punch!

regulargonzalez posted:

Assuming you meant Goldfinger, it's easily the worst Bond movie. Bond rapes a lesbian straight and literally and I mean literally plays no role in stopping the bad guy.

I suspect he meant what he said.

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

SPACE-A-HOLIC
Taco Defender

FrankeeFrankFrank posted:

I want to ask this as non-troll-y as possible... but why is it good?

I heard great things about it, so I rented it 6 months ago or whatever, and was really disappointed. To me it's nothing more than HOSTEL, and the 50 other movies just like HOSTEL. Innocent teens get caught in a bad situation through no fault of their own and are tortured and killed. And if your movie has the grossest kill scene your movie is the best. The only things unique about this movie were that they weren't on spring break, and captain Picard is racist... I think....

Im going to watch it again right now.
It's a down to earth siege movie where actions have real consequences, so when characters are in danger we should be genuinely worried for their safety, and they have motivations and goals that extend beyond the events of the movie. Most of that can probably be described as "realism" but whatever the filmmakers are doing, along with Blue Ruin, is pretty captivating to me.

I thought (Green Room) it was particularly cold how Patrick Stewart's character and the others were managing the extermination of the band with budgets and timelines like they were managing a corporate event, even in the handling of their management team and promotions. I can see similarities to Hostel in the violence and the sense of inevitability, but Green Room seems more like drama than gorno, if just in the development of its skinheads compared to empty vessels like The Dutch Businessman. There's a strata of different personalities and motivations in there beyond "malicious killer."

Knight fucked around with this message at 21:43 on Nov 16, 2016

Remulak
Jun 8, 2001
I can't count to four.
Yams Fan

Timby posted:

Yeah, like Skyfall, Spectre is really well staged and directed, and the photography is great
Disagree 100%. Skyfall is one of the best looking movies I've ever seen, just about every still is GORGEOUS. Spectre is boring as poo poo to look at (and listen to, agreed that the script is poo poo).

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Remulak posted:

Disagree 100%. Skyfall is one of the best looking movies I've ever seen, just about every still is GORGEOUS. Spectre is boring as poo poo to look at (and listen to, agreed that the script is poo poo).

The opening of Spectre is the polar opposite of boring and is up there with the best openings of any Bond film.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
I never had any problems with the pacing of Spectre. Like the most common criticism is that it's boring but I never felt the story wasn't moving.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
Casino Royale is the best, followed closely by Live and Let Die, then spectre, then From Russia with Love.

E: :psyduck:

Queen_Combat fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Nov 16, 2016

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer
My favorite Bond is Live and Let Die, and my least favorite Bond song is Live and Let Die.

Remulak
Jun 8, 2001
I can't count to four.
Yams Fan
My favorite Bond movie is is On Her Majesty's Secret Service. But it has the worst bond.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

coyo7e posted:

He always was one - we just used to reward men for being completely unable to function in regular life, for being "Special", and now they get put in "special"ed because nobod wants to put up with a pants-wetting adult man who will attack you for no reason based on things only he sees in his mind



Wow this is dumb in like, 12 different ways

FrankeeFrankFrank
Apr 21, 2005

Say word son.

Knight posted:

It's a down to earth siege movie where actions have real consequences, so when characters are in danger we should be genuinely worried for their safety, and they have motivations and goals that extend beyond the events of the movie. Most of that can probably be described as "realism" but whatever the filmmakers are doing, along with Blue Ruin, is pretty captivating to me.

I thought (Green Room) it was particularly cold how Patrick Stewart's character and the others were managing the extermination of the band with budgets and timelines like they were managing a corporate event, even in the handling of their management team and promotions. I can see similarities to Hostel in the violence and the sense of inevitability, but Green Room seems more like drama than gorno, if just in the development of its skinheads compared to empty vessels like The Dutch Businessman. There's a strata of different personalities and motivations in there beyond "malicious killer."

I watched it again... still feels like something I've seen 100 times.

I liked BLUE RUIN...

fishtobaskets
Feb 22, 2007

It's not about butthole pleasures
Lipstick Apathy

FrankeeFrankFrank posted:

I watched it again... still feels like something I've seen 100 times.

I liked BLUE RUIN...

That last part is so weird because Green Room felt way more like Blue Ruin than Hostel to me. I think one of the reasons everybody liked Blue Ruin is that the violence is sparse, gritty, and earned. That's the vibe I got from Green Room. By contrast, Hostel is archetypal torture porn.

Raskolnikov2089
Nov 3, 2006

Schizzy to the matic

regulargonzalez posted:

Assuming you meant Goldfinger, it's easily the worst Bond movie. Bond rapes a lesbian straight and literally and I mean literally plays no role in stopping the bad guy.

He gets Pussy Galore to warn Fort Knox, then fights Odd Job so that the bomb can be disarmed. Then he kills Goldfinger in the end. I don't think literally means what you think it means.

yo mamma a Horus
Apr 7, 2008

Nap Ghost
The Bond movie where he gets surgery to become Asian is immensely stupid and only believe it is real because I have seen it.

Filthy Hans
Jun 27, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 10 years!)

yo mamma a Horus posted:

The Bond movie where he gets surgery to become Asian is immensely stupid and only believe it is real because I have seen it.

This is a bad opinion. The assault on the hollow volcano is one of the best set pieces in the entire franchise. Also You Only Live Twice has one of the 3 best theme songs, along with Goldfinger and A View To A Kill.

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot
Stander is up on Amazon Prime video (starring THomas Jane, who is awesome). I think it used to be on netflix, but it's a really great movie based on the life and career of a South African cop who started a spree of 30 bank robberies s in apartheid-era South Africa. A lot of his robberies were really ballsy, and it's a fun watch.

The movie plays up the fact that Stander claimed that his bank robberies were due to him being upset about a massacre of black south africans which he participated in however, it's debatable at the very least, whether he was actually there when it happened or not, and by the end of the film it's pretty clear what his primary motivation seemed to be, right up to the end.

coyo7e fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Nov 17, 2016

Wonderful Bread
Nov 11, 2013
just watched the tiger

features a scene where a tiger massacres a hunting party of 50 armed men (japanese soldiers included)

terrible editing and writing, and hollywood-imitator filmmaking. made me laugh. worth a drunk (half) movie night

Wonderful Bread
Nov 11, 2013

Knight posted:

It's a down to earth siege movie where actions have real consequences, so when characters are in danger we should be genuinely worried for their safety, and they have motivations and goals that extend beyond the events of the movie. Most of that can probably be described as "realism" but whatever the filmmakers are doing, along with Blue Ruin, is pretty captivating to me.

I thought (Green Room) it was particularly cold how Patrick Stewart's character and the others were managing the extermination of the band with budgets and timelines like they were managing a corporate event, even in the handling of their management team and promotions. I can see similarities to Hostel in the violence and the sense of inevitability, but Green Room seems more like drama than gorno, if just in the development of its skinheads compared to empty vessels like The Dutch Businessman. There's a strata of different personalities and motivations in there beyond "malicious killer."

Hostel is an awful - borderline unwatchable - porno; Green Room is cinematic bliss. apples to oranges

Only outright not-so-great moment in Green Room was when traitor nazi gets cgi sprayed across his face by the bartender. Was cheap, bland, and pushed an interesting plot device into a shallow grave. Everything before and after was harmonious on all levels. probably my favorite film that plays by genre rules since blue ruin, but i haven't thought to hard about it

Spatulater bro!
Aug 19, 2003

Punch! Punch! Punch!

Wonderful Bread posted:

Hostel is an awful - borderline unwatchable - porno;

Because all violent movies about sadistic killers are porno.

Sarchasm
Apr 14, 2002

So that explains why he did not answer. He had no mouth to answer with. There is nothing left of him but his ears.

Spatulater bro! posted:

Because all violent movies about sadistic killers are porno.

No, just Hostel.

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot

Wonderful Bread posted:

just watched the tiger

features a scene where a tiger massacres a hunting party of 50 armed men (japanese soldiers included)

terrible editing and writing, and hollywood-imitator filmmaking. made me laugh. worth a drunk (half) movie night
Counterpoint: the CGI tiger is the second-best actor in the film. And if you wanted to watch some Princess Mononoke with live actors you got what you were looking for.

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Bayham Badger
Jan 19, 2007

Secretly force socialism, communism and imperialism types of government onto the people of the United States of America.

God drat Green Room was good. Did not make the Blue Ruin connection (went in blind, as I try to do with all horror/thrillers) until the end, and now I feel like a double feature is in order. Really cool how Saulnier just kind of takes a single seed of an idea and runs with it.

We’re not keeping you, you’re just staying.

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