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Goa Tse-tung
Feb 11, 2008

;3

Yams Fan

Maneck posted:

The ball got dropped in naming the Gamblor War.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KqANzZ_YVk

Gamblor got his own war? He was a bit spergy but that's cool :unsmith:

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Maneck
Sep 11, 2011

Goa Tse-tung posted:

Gamblor got his own war? He was a bit spergy but that's cool :unsmith:

Sadly, he got robbed. Instead of a good name, CCP stepped in to officially name the war. So a war that started over Space Monkey Alliance (a Goonwaffe ally) accusing an EVE casino of RMT, which expanded to engulf SMA's allies because the casino had functionally unlimited funds, was named after the animal upon which Goonwaffe's mascot is based because it rhymes with "three".

As far as :ccp: decisions go, at least it's understandable. The aggressor's narrative of "everyone in EVE against GSF" is better marketing than "the war that one side won't bother fighting because the aggressor funding the war doesn't even exist in game and is therefore unassailable". "Gamblor War" and "the Casino War" (what we call it) suffer from the detriment of accuracy.

causticBeet
Mar 2, 2010

BIG VINCE COMIN FOR YOU

Magic Rabbit Hat posted:

They're all pretty decent. Minmatar ships are pretty good now with small artillery, but I like Caldari for their weapon variety. I would avoid Amarr. Barring a few stand-outs, their ships are one-dimensional and boring. If I had to choose it would either be Gallente or Minmatar; both races have solid ships at all Alpha classes, have useful fleet EWAR, and their T1 and faction frigates are pretty viable for solo roams.

Plus, Thrashers and Catalysts are useful gank boats.

Amarr is far from boring but I'd say they're the most SP dependent ones and I don't think anything cruiser or below is worth running with meta guns and some of the other alpha clone skill restrictions. Like you could do some of the brawling frigs but you're severely limited without pulse access

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Maneck posted:

Sadly, he got robbed. Instead of a good name, CCP stepped in to officially name the war. So a war that started over Space Monkey Alliance (a Goonwaffe ally) accusing an EVE casino of RMT, which expanded to engulf SMA's allies because the casino had functionally unlimited funds, was named after the animal upon which Goonwaffe's mascot is based because it rhymes with "three".

As far as :ccp: decisions go, at least it's understandable. The aggressor's narrative of "everyone in EVE against GSF" is better marketing than "the war that one side won't bother fighting because the aggressor funding the war doesn't even exist in game and is therefore unassailable". "Gamblor War" and "the Casino War" (what we call it) suffer from the detriment of accuracy.

I like "World War RMT"

Zephyrine
Jun 10, 2014

This is what meat is supposed to be like, dingus
War of sovless aggression.

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Zephyrine posted:

War of sovless aggression.

The War The Trash Took Itself Out (And Joined The Enemy)

Zephyrine
Jun 10, 2014

This is what meat is supposed to be like, dingus

Rust Martialis posted:

The War The Trash Took Itself Out (And Joined The Enemy)

But said trash was misunderstood and everyone made up.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Zephyrine posted:

But said trash was misunderstood and everyone made up.

lmao what

someone link duchemin's farewell post citing unspecified wrongs within goonfleet culture

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

Well, shoot! We ain't come this far just to dump this thing in the drink. What's the nearest target opportunity?

Rust Martialis posted:

I like "World War RMT"

:agreed:

It'd be better if IWI got banned during the war, but :shrug:

Guess a ton of dudes are out loads of isk, 5b per flipped system seemed way too good to be true (it did keep a few PL FCs on the hook for a while though). Pretty sure BFM was paying people that helped him sovwand out of his own pocket, I can't even begin to speculate what his losses were.

Baculus
Oct 25, 2007

I DID A BIG CACA IN MY DRUG STORE DIAPER

Zephyrine posted:

But said trash was misunderstood and everyone made up.

TFW you realize the best you can hope for is that your group of "friends" dismisses you as trash.

Zephyrine
Jun 10, 2014

This is what meat is supposed to be like, dingus

tickets to the gunt show posted:

TFW you realize the best you can hope for is that your group of "friends" dismisses you as trash.

I think the analogy got away from me :ohdear:

Phil TheHeat
Jul 29, 2015
Stuff in my hanger that I haven't the skill to use, but was stupid enough to steal / buy anyway, now has a yellow box round it.

Handy once I noticed.

FruitNYogurtParfait
Mar 29, 2006

Sion lied. Deadtear died for our sins. #VengeanceForDeadtear
#PunGateNeverForget
#ModLivesMatter

Zephyrine posted:

I think the analogy got away from me :ohdear:

so did gsf

1001 Arabian dicks
Sep 16, 2013

EVE ONLINE IS MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY BECAUSE IM A FRIENDLESS SEMILITERATE LOSER WHO WILL PEDANTICALLY DEMAND PROOF FOR BASIC THINGS LIKE GRAVITY OR THE EXISTENCE OF SELF. ASK ME ABOUT CHEATING AT TARKOV BECAUSE, WELL, SEE ABOVE

Unfunny Poster posted:

Was it enough to pay for a new cell phone?

DELETE THIS

Landsknecht
Oct 27, 2009
I hope this person is trolling, nobody can be so unfunny and dumb

Xolve posted:

:agreed:

It'd be better if IWI got banned during the war, but :shrug:

Guess a ton of dudes are out loads of isk, 5b per flipped system seemed way too good to be true (it did keep a few PL FCs on the hook for a while though). Pretty sure BFM was paying people that helped him sovwand out of his own pocket, I can't even begin to speculate what his losses were.

AFAIK most PL dudes were paid out, or were at least 80% paid out

Someone's new faction titan fit with a full set of purples is the direct result of campaign-commanding wwb

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

Zephyrine posted:

War of sovless aggression.

Rust Martialis posted:

The War The Trash Took Itself Out (And Joined The Enemy)

Rust Martialis posted:

I like "World War RMT"


I still think my proposal is/was the most accurate: The War Wherein Eve Still Sucks

The Hambulance
Apr 19, 2011

:20bux:

ASK ME ABOUT MY AWESOME STARTUP IDEA


Pillbug

silentsnack posted:

I still think my proposal is/was the most accurate: The War Wherein Eve Still Sucks

Too vague.

Hexel
Nov 18, 2011




Landsknecht posted:

campaign-commanding wwb

"hey horde/TEST go entosis this poo poo you'll love it

Landsknecht posted:

campaign-commanding

Hexel
Nov 18, 2011




Landsknecht posted:

Someone's new faction titan fit with a full set of purples is the direct result of campaign-commanding wwb

how salty was manny, elendar, the PL old guard FC's that they were too inactive to snag one of the best contracts yall ever had

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

Well, shoot! We ain't come this far just to dump this thing in the drink. What's the nearest target opportunity?

Orange Red Bull posted:

"hey horde/TEST go entosis this poo poo you'll love it

It was a Ghost Time thing, paid out to individual FCs. If TEST/Horde were involved at all, I don't know- because who gives a gently caress about TEST/Horde?


Orange Red Bull posted:

how salty was manny, elendar, the PL old guard FC's that they were too inactive to snag one of the best contracts yall ever had

Elendar and Hedliner both made a super brief return, pretty sure neither of them really cared much and even said "EVE is still rubbish I see" and hosed off.

Manny was out there losing Marauders nightly with Grath, so I'm pretty sure he dived into that honey jar head first.

Numismancer
Sep 15, 2004

by sebmojo
World War RMT is drat good, ngl.

1001 Arabian dicks
Sep 16, 2013

EVE ONLINE IS MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY BECAUSE IM A FRIENDLESS SEMILITERATE LOSER WHO WILL PEDANTICALLY DEMAND PROOF FOR BASIC THINGS LIKE GRAVITY OR THE EXISTENCE OF SELF. ASK ME ABOUT CHEATING AT TARKOV BECAUSE, WELL, SEE ABOVE
I thought world war bee was a good name.

Landsknecht
Oct 27, 2009
I hope this person is trolling, nobody can be so unfunny and dumb
who was buying all the IWI isk

Zephyrine
Jun 10, 2014

This is what meat is supposed to be like, dingus
World War Bee was a surprisingly bad name but it became *the* name.

The Casino wars is a little better.

luminalflux
May 27, 2005



Zephyrine posted:

World War Bee was a surprisingly bad name but it became *the* name.

The Casino wars is a little better.

because ccp pr head ned coker shoved it down everyone's throats

Rhymenoserous
May 23, 2008

Gwyneth Palpate posted:

biased version:

dj came back to goonswarm expecting a boosh into the directorate, did not receive one, then goatse'd goonfleet dot com after xenuria was elected to the csm with our assistance

while the casino wars were going on he made Ten Dollar Bond in a bad attempt to schism goonswarm federation, and managed to convince whoever owned the old Goonswarm alliance name to give it to him

the alliance proceeded to grab rear end around delve and querious before getting evicted, then they were gifted space by some ex-BoB corps in fade

the alliance peaked at about 200 dudes or so after extensive public recruitment attempts, then dj decided "gently caress this" and just killed his own alliance because i guess it was too much work or something

This is pretty spot on tbh. You forgot the bit where he told all of his people "Feel free to follow me to my new alliance" when that option was never really on the table lol

Service Charge
Jan 22, 2004
I'm not cheap

Rhymenoserous posted:

This is pretty spot on tbh. You forgot the bit where he told all of his people "Feel free to follow me to my new alliance" when that option was never really on the table lol

Hey his new corp is open to everyone!

Zephyrine
Jun 10, 2014

This is what meat is supposed to be like, dingus

luminalflux posted:

because ccp pr head ned coker shoved it down everyone's throats

I'm blaming reddit for that and say that CCP just jumped on the bandwagon.


Service Charge posted:

Hey his new corp is open to everyone!



I miss the time when DJ was just a legend of the past. Then he had to show up and be all human and flawed.

Landsknecht
Oct 27, 2009
I hope this person is trolling, nobody can be so unfunny and dumb

Service Charge posted:

Hey his new corp is open to everyone!



DJ too has realized that eve is a bad game

Gwyneth Palpate
Jun 7, 2010

Do you want your breadcrumbs highlighted?

~SMcD

Rhymenoserous posted:

This is pretty spot on tbh. You forgot the bit where he told all of his people "Feel free to follow me to my new alliance" when that option was never really on the table lol

Ah yeah, I wasn't too sure what exactly went down there and it wasn't too relevant so I left it out

Landsknecht
Oct 27, 2009
I hope this person is trolling, nobody can be so unfunny and dumb

Gwyneth Palpate posted:

Ah yeah, I wasn't too sure what exactly went down there and it wasn't too relevant so I left it out

yo querns have you mined with the new rorq drones? what's the deal with them

Hexel
Nov 18, 2011




Landsknecht posted:

who was buying all the IWI isk

probably these guys

1001 Arabian dicks
Sep 16, 2013

EVE ONLINE IS MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY BECAUSE IM A FRIENDLESS SEMILITERATE LOSER WHO WILL PEDANTICALLY DEMAND PROOF FOR BASIC THINGS LIKE GRAVITY OR THE EXISTENCE OF SELF. ASK ME ABOUT CHEATING AT TARKOV BECAUSE, WELL, SEE ABOVE
The ways casinos were run basically made proving RMT impossible, they just banned them anyway without proof because it's CCP and it's their game.

The combination of perceived legal issues, unrestricted RMT, unassailable wealth and effects on the health of the game more than justified the outlawing of eve casinos.

Zephyrine
Jun 10, 2014

This is what meat is supposed to be like, dingus

1001 Arabian dicks posted:

The ways casinos were run basically made proving RMT impossible, they just banned them anyway without proof because it's CCP and it's their game.

The combination of perceived legal issues, unrestricted RMT, unassailable wealth and effects on the health of the game more than justified the outlawing of eve casinos.

They probably bought some isk as a test then traced the delivery pilots accounts through transactions and IP addresses.

Hexel
Nov 18, 2011




Zephyrine posted:

They probably bought some isk as a test then traced the delivery pilots accounts through transactions and IP addresses.

thats entrapment

im gonna need an internet lawyer to sign off on these kind of shady practices

nex
Jul 23, 2001

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Grimey Drawer

1001 Arabian dicks posted:

The ways casinos were run basically made proving RMT impossible, they just banned them anyway without proof because it's CCP and it's their game.

The combination of perceived legal issues, unrestricted RMT, unassailable wealth and effects on the health of the game more than justified the outlawing of eve casinos.

Can you say anything about how they were run? I just assumed IWI worked as a laundromat to obfuscate RMT transactions, but have no insight.

Lack of Gravitas
Oct 11, 2012

Grimey Drawer
If you ask your isk buyer "Are you CCP Security" then they have to answer honestly, it's the spacelaw

1001 Arabian dicks
Sep 16, 2013

EVE ONLINE IS MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY BECAUSE IM A FRIENDLESS SEMILITERATE LOSER WHO WILL PEDANTICALLY DEMAND PROOF FOR BASIC THINGS LIKE GRAVITY OR THE EXISTENCE OF SELF. ASK ME ABOUT CHEATING AT TARKOV BECAUSE, WELL, SEE ABOVE

nex posted:

Can you say anything about how they were run? I just assumed IWI worked as a laundromat to obfuscate RMT transactions, but have no insight.

You (the casino) pay out to separate clean accounts who just look to sell on player auctions dot com independently, when in reality you control that separate account. You can even make it sneakier by having other bankers fill that account's (the RMTer) wallet because you own the website and control everything.

You can't differentiate between an RMTer who just happened to win big on IWI, or on a guy who happened to play IWI months ago, or a guy working with IWI to RMT. It's also hard to catch them in the first place.

anyway that's how I'd do it

Gwyneth Palpate
Jun 7, 2010

Do you want your breadcrumbs highlighted?

~SMcD

Landsknecht posted:

yo querns have you mined with the new rorq drones

no

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PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

Service Charge posted:

Hey his new corp is open to everyone!



Never meet your heroes

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