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IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

Time posted:

Haha I thought this was hyperbole

He has a really bad tendency to fall in love with the shot instead of trying to post up or roll to the hoop

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Lockback
Sep 3, 2006

All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.
3/10 isn't awful, and he needs to be out in the perimeter to give space for the Wiggins/Rubio/Dunn/LaVine drives. I do think he's better when he's more aggressive, but I understand why he thinks the looks are pretty good.

The 3rd quarter thing is super weird though. My thought was they were having trouble with the halftime adjustments but its getting ridiculous.

AggressivelyStupid
Jan 9, 2012

Cool Buff Man posted:

I don't know if its the same thing they're talking about but he got fined for wearing a nuggets throwback over a turtleneck once\



Should be fined for it not being their good throwbacks

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

Lockback posted:

3/10 isn't awful

I respectfully and wholeheartedly disagree.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

My god those dress code posts

Lockback
Sep 3, 2006

All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.

IcePhoenix posted:

I respectfully and wholeheartedly disagree.

It's TS%/eFG% of 45%. That's not great, but its hardly awful. I agree its not in his best interest but if he hit 1 more 3 we'd be celebrating that line and it wouldn't change the game outcome.

Chairchucker
Nov 14, 2006

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022




euphronius posted:

My god those dress code posts

Maybe one day this thread will look back in shame upon the posts besmirching D'Angelo Russell's name for his brave whistle blowing of that cad Nick Young.

Dejan Bimble
Mar 24, 2008

we're all black friends
Plaster Town Cop

Libertine posted:

What are they doing at halftime to play their third quarters that badly? It's practically comical.

I get really tired after I orgasm so it might be a lot of gay sex or possible mutual masturbation or mmf threesomes or possibly standard mf sex with the wolves's dance team

Cool Buff Man
Jul 30, 2006

bitch

Lockback posted:

It's TS%/eFG% of 45%. That's not great, but its hardly awful. I agree its not in his best interest but if he hit 1 more 3 we'd be celebrating that line and it wouldn't change the game outcome.

I think 45% ts/efg is indeed bad, he didn't make that extra 3 and it's irrelevant whether or not it means they would have won but what do I know

Cool Buff Man
Jul 30, 2006

bitch

Dejan Bimble posted:

I get really tired after I orgasm so it might be a lot of gay sex or possible mutual masturbation or mmf threesomes or possibly standard mf sex with the wolves's dance team

Oxytocin and Hairlines: A Case Study in Efficiency

Dejan Bimble
Mar 24, 2008

we're all black friends
Plaster Town Cop
As much as I hate to change the subject back to ball proper, is Dwight Howard good at defending post up centers?

Declan MacManus posted:

also I googled Mateen Cleaves to see if that was actually him and it turns out he's accused of sexual assault

is nothing sacred

He was found not guilty by a jury, it was a consensual thing that became extortion, like Derrick Rose. Mateen is like the mayor of Detroit/East Lansing, everyone who's met him talks like they met the dalai lama, he's just a very nice and giving person. It's the only reason he was in the league for like 14 years, he was kent bazemore x1000

Dejan Bimble fucked around with this message at 15:24 on Nov 16, 2016

zelah
Dec 1, 2004

Diabetes, you are not invited to my pizza party.

Dejan Bimble posted:

He was found not guilty by a jury, it was a consensual thing that became extortion, like Derrick Rose.

This isn't how civil trials work.

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming


Kemba rules, can someone explain the Otto Porter thing, the bottom five is basically perfect

Lockback
Sep 3, 2006

All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.

Dejan Bimble posted:

As much as I hate to change the subject back to ball proper, is Dwight Howard good at defending post up centers?


Dwight is still a good defensive center, he's just not the superstar one he was before injury. He was that in Houston too. People tend to round down "Worse but still good" to "Bad".

Cool Buff Man posted:

I think 45% ts/efg is indeed bad, he didn't make that extra 3 and it's irrelevant whether or not it means they would have won but what do I know

Good players for 6/14 from 2 all the time, it's not worth getting upset over. It's not good but its "regular down game" and not worth changing your shots over.

zelah posted:

This isn't how civil trials work.

Its easier to be found liable in a civil court than it is to be found guilty in a criminal one. Being exonerated in a civil court is usually a pretty good indication that you would not be found guilty in a criminal one.

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011

If Dwight Howard does not win a ring (which he won't) I think he is going to be the most interesting HoF debate out of the current batch of likely HoF players.

e: That's not totally true, he could totally win a ring in the twilight of his career as a traveling assassin.

Cool Buff Man
Jul 30, 2006

bitch

Lockback posted:

Good players for 6/14 from 2 all the time, it's not worth getting upset over. It's not good but its "regular down game" and not worth changing your shots over.

Oh yeah it's not a big deal or anything. It was just weird seeing him jack up 10 threes while not finding very much success last night. Looked a bit like the bad version of Boogie from last year. He's still a beast

Hashtag Banterzone
Dec 8, 2005


Lifetime Winner of the willkill4food Honorary Bad Posting Award in PWM

morestuff posted:



Kemba rules, can someone explain the Otto Porter thing, the bottom five is basically perfect

Otto has 17% USG (really low), 63% of his shots are assisted (thanks John Wall), and has a TS% of 61% (really good)

It's sorta like how Tyson Chandler and DeAndre always have really high ORtg

Cool Buff Man
Jul 30, 2006

bitch
Brandon Knight is gonna get traded to the Knicks for Brandon Jennings and the Brandon purgatory will continue

e: Is Brandon a top 5 most cursed NBA name?

Boosh!
Apr 12, 2002
Oven Wrangler
What happened to Justise Winslow?

Time
Aug 1, 2011

It Was All A Dream

Lockback posted:

Good players for 6/14 from 2 all the time, it's not worth getting upset over. It's not good but its "regular down game" and not worth changing your shots over.

I agree with you wholeheartedly but I think his overall game and the wolves would be served well with him rolling to the basket a bit more. Like, he doesn't need to get rid of the shot entirely but it would probably open up more looks for him and everyone else if he wasn't launching 10/game.

edit: You already said this in a better way and I missed it.

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011

Boosh! posted:

What happened to Justise Winslow?

What do you mean "what happened". He was a bad offensive player last year and now he is a bad offensive player with a 20% usage, so he looks even worse.

nachos
Jun 27, 2004

Wario Chalmers! WAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Winslow is a no good, terrible shooter and will remain limited as a player until he improves that. He's getting a bit better at running an offense but is still the same player as last year.

Spring Break My Heart
Feb 15, 2012

Paul Zuvella posted:

If Dwight Howard does not win a ring (which he won't) I think he is going to be the most interesting HoF debate out of the current batch of likely HoF players.

e: That's not totally true, he could totally win a ring in the twilight of his career as a traveling assassin.
He is a 100% lock.

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011

nachos posted:

Winslow is a no good, terrible shooter and will remain limited as a player until he improves that. He's getting a bit better at running an offense but is still the same player as last year.

Not only is he a terrible shooter, He's taking the most shots per game for his team. That's not a strategy for success.

Spring Break My Heart posted:

He is a 100% lock.

Oh I agree,and I beleive everyone here likely would too. I'm taking about moreso by the greater sports world in general. Narrative has not been kind to Dwight Howard

Hashtag Banterzone
Dec 8, 2005


Lifetime Winner of the willkill4food Honorary Bad Posting Award in PWM

Paul Zuvella posted:

What do you mean "what happened". He was a bad offensive player last year and now he is a bad offensive player with a 20% usage, so he looks even worse.

Riley probably asked him to take a paycut and/or insulted his friends and family

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming

Paul Zuvella posted:

What do you mean "what happened". He was a bad offensive player last year and now he is a bad offensive player with a 20% usage, so he looks even worse.

He's also taking more threes, which he's really bad at.

I forget where to find transition/fast-break numbers on the NBA site but I'd suspect he's ok there, as ok as a 33% shooter can be. Worth pointing out that Miami is better with him on the floor offensively since he's turning into a pretty good passer

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011

I will say that I don't think Winslow's usage is necessarily a bad thing. The Heat were always going to be a bad team this year after losing Wade and Bosh so they might as well trial by fire their way to see if Winslow can go from a 'really bad' offensive player to an "ok" one, which will determine if he spends his career as a defensive specialist role player or a real player you can build around.

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming
Winslow seems like a nice player to have even if he doesn't pan out completely, and he comes off like a good guy on top of that, but I'm rooting hard for him to fail so the Kaminsky thing will look better in hindsight

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
https://twitter.com/WerlySportsLaw/status/798584972609290244

Hmmm.

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011


This is a huge development, not only for the well being of the players in the D-league, but also legitimizing the D-league as a league used for actually developing players.

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming
I bet that'd bring a few more fringe guys and second-round prospects but the exposure (and probably cash) from one year of college BB is probably going to be more valuable to the top-tier guys

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
Yeah. Unless some boosters are paying me hella money If I were a NBA caliber talent I might just go to the D league for a year especially if the coaches there are actually coaching NBA basketball rather than whatever Bullshit a college coach might use because they have no incentive to develop me.


https://twitter.com/TerryLee__/status/798917579846930433

Yeah the D-League looks hella attractive.


Now if people start going and the league actually starts putting some advertising into it it might be a thing.

Dexo fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Nov 16, 2016

Hashtag Banterzone
Dec 8, 2005


Lifetime Winner of the willkill4food Honorary Bad Posting Award in PWM

Paul Zuvella posted:

I will say that I don't think Winslow's usage is necessarily a bad thing. The Heat were always going to be a bad team this year after losing Wade and Bosh so they might as well trial by fire their way to see if Winslow can go from a 'really bad' offensive player to an "ok" one, which will determine if he spends his career as a defensive specialist role player or a real player you can build around.

It's also a great way to stealth tank.

Here's my favorite stealth tanking strategies in order.

1. Leave a big hole in the depth chart - claim there's no value in the market or that you want to try JJ Hickson as a small ball 5
2. Try a SG or a SF at PG - if it works then you have the next Giannis, if it doesn't you still lost a lot of games (Olapido)
3. Rookie head coach - preferably a player that just retired so he will be extra bad
4. Make a 3rd option guy your 1st option - like Winslow or Nick Young

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida


This is legit incredible and a huge and awesome step.

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming

Dexo posted:

Yeah the D-League looks hella attractive.

It's already trending this way, but it'll be interesting to see if the NCAA gets hollowed out completely. A small group of one-and-done stars dominating career college players while the creamy middle plays in South Dakota

Redgrendel2001
Sep 1, 2006

you literally think a person saying their NBA team of choice being better than the fucking 76ers is a 'schtick'

a literal thing you think.

IcePhoenix posted:

This is legit incredible and a huge and awesome step.

Tokyo Sex Whale
Oct 9, 2012

"My butt smells like vanilla ice cream"

Declan MacManus posted:

Connect Four is a solved game, being "good" at it is like being "good" at tic-tac-toe

I think it's still respectable as long as he's playing timed games

Time
Aug 1, 2011

It Was All A Dream
Who is the Go champion of the NBA now that Timmy has retired? Make him face Pop at center court during all-star weekend

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

Declan MacManus posted:

Connect Four is a solved game, being "good" at it is like being "good" at tic-tac-toe

while yes it's a solved game. tbf it's a bit different than Tic-tac-toe.

The possibility space is larger. And it's harder to remember the exact sequence to counter every single placement choice.


Like I can run through every possible outcome in a tic-tac-toe game in less than 30 seconds. Connect 4 is exponentially harder to do that in.

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Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.
Are HS Grads eligible for the D-League? I thought it was under the same restrictions as the NBA in terms of draft/playing eligibility.

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