Twelve by Pies posted:

As has been said before, Freep is worried that gay men will treat straight men like how straight men treat women.

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To: bobk3

Maybe they should call expert witnesses to define what constitutes an illegal act of “Mishandling Classified Material” ???

Maybe Generals Petraeus or Cartwright...

2 posted on 11/15/2016 3:18:40 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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To: bobk3

Fox gets Repubs to talk. Now Obama can give her the pardon.

3 posted on 11/15/2016 3:18:48 PM PST by Lent
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To: Lent

Bingo! My first thought too. Just SHUT UP and don’t make Obama skittish so we can wire her up to Old Sparky!

5 posted on 11/15/2016 3:20:56 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Jolla

"Can you be given a pardon if you have no criminal record or even any charges filed?"

Yep. Obama could pardon her for any federal crimes she may have committed, but my understanding is that he does not have the power to pardon her for any state crimes, e.g. anything to do with the Clinton Foundation as it may pertain to violating certain state statutes. In the first case, she does not have to have been indicted to receive a pardon.

12 posted on 11/15/2016 3:36:19 PM PST by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: bobk3

It was always going to be either impeachment or jail for Hillary... Thankfully she lost.

This is probably the reason why Obama is sooo P Od though. His legacy after 8 years in office will be reduced to 7 very small words.... Obama was the President who pardoned Hillary. That's because without his pardon she will surely go to jail, and Hillary is the sort of criminal who after being caught will likely drag as many as she can down with her in an effort to avoid hard time.

Obamacare, eliminated or modified to the point of non-recognition. Pretty much every other so-called 'accomplishment' wiped out with the stroke of pen, since they were all pretty much accomplished with one. Hopefully his melancholy doesn't become clinical or dangerous... After all, until January20th he still is the President and Commander in Chief.

16 posted on 11/15/2016 3:45:00 PM PST by jerod (Pro-Abortion Gun Control Freaks & Environmental Nuts who hated Capitalism? The Nazi's)
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To: bobk3

Just do it, don’t telegraph it.

Hit them while they’re on the ropes, and keep hitting them until they buckle and knuckle under.

17 posted on 11/15/2016 3:49:17 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: bobk3

OK this will rub against the grain.

First I think she is guilty as hell.

All military and civilians that handled classified information know what the penalties are for mishandling.

She was negligent about security at Banghazi both before the killings of the Americans and in any attempt to rescue them. So was her boss.

Her hearings should proceed up to the point of referral of charges if warranted.

The world is watching and at this point when her guilt is clear it may be wise for Trump to decline to prosecute, not pardon her. To prosecute a political opponent would be viewed as a vendetta, not the pursuit of justice.

The best possible alternative would be for obummer to pardon her before leaving office. That leaves the shadow of guilt over her and the political burdon of the pardon on obummer.

21 posted on 11/15/2016 4:15:09 PM PST by pfflier
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To: bobk3

What’d Trump grab their manginess?

The gang of 535, a.k.a. CONgre$$, should be in federal prison.

Their assets should be confiscated.

http://usdebtclock.org

The most EVIL, POS government in the history of this fabulous republic. OUTSTANDING Americans gave their lives for these PUNKS?

23 posted on 11/15/2016 4:30:30 PM PST by PGalt (CONGRATULATIONS Donald J. Trump)
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To: Lent

giving her a pardon would be an admission of guilt and then Congress could go after Obama! Remember his were abouts on night of Benghazi is unknown still and he was emailing Hillary under a fake name ....who knows what will turn up

26 posted on 11/15/2016 4:41:55 PM PST by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: ReaganGeneration2

Obama has NO LEGACY!!! Name ONE THING that could be considered a success......... still waiting!!!!!!

29 posted on 11/15/2016 4:45:54 PM PST by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: bobk3

“Congressional Clinton probes will go forward post-election, GOP lawmakers say”

They’d better knowing what she, and her cohorts on the left have in store for us.

IF we think these alleged “protests” organized by the left that are currently happening across the nation are outrageous, we haven’t even seen the worst they will be throwing at us trying to force America to compromise with them.

This is war, and we have to recognize it is nothing less than war. The left made their move towards their final solution during the Obama tenure knowing they had no chance of winning after his eight years without an all out war on the constitution, and the Republic that exists because of it.

30 posted on 11/15/2016 5:43:30 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists Call 'em what you will, they all have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Lent

That’s nonsense.

Who’s going to stop the DOJ from indicting all of these crooked MF’s once ole blue lips is out of office?

TRUMP is going to fire EVERY US Attorney on the first day, and their replacements are going to be out for blood.

No enforcement mechanism for any pardon by a guy who has no power anymore.

31 posted on 11/15/2016 6:10:54 PM PST by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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To: bobk3

Nobody is above our law— No Illegal Aliens and not the Clinton crime syndicate!!

33 posted on 11/15/2016 6:39:43 PM PST by WENDLE
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To: bobk3

This is excellent for the appropriate committees and investigations to take place. However the new President should not be hands-on with such matters of this former Cabinet Secretary Hillary Clinton. This is not a Page 1 story anymore but a Page 1001 story now that Hillary Clinton will never hold office or serve in government ever again.

36 posted on 11/15/2016 6:46:22 PM PST by Degaston
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To: bobk3

My concern is not indicting her, but what happens when she goes to trial. Will there be a jury that would convict her ? That is what makes me suspect the real reason behind these protests. It is sending a warning shot across the bows of potential jurors. If you convict Hillary, there will be an angry mob coming after you.

39 posted on 11/15/2016 7:47:07 PM PST by TheCipher (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself. Mark Twain)
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To: Pinkbell

I hate to say it, but it would be best for our side if Obama pardons her. Then history can blame him, but the Trump administration is relieved of a a no-win issue.

He has MUCH BIGGER FISH TO FRY. Like building a wall, reversing Obama Executive Orders, lowering corporate taxes, setting up tariffs on companies like FORD, cancelling funding to U.N. (especially climate), stopping Iran nuke deal, getting Justice(s) confirmed, changing the geopolitical landscape in ways the globalists will HATE (like working with Putin to destroy the Saudi/Qatar/Clinton creature: ISIS) and many more.

Maybe some of the criminals the Clintons sold influence to will come after their money, since she can no longer deliver the goods.

40 posted on 11/15/2016 8:30:48 PM PST by Disestablishmentarian
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To: Disestablishmentarian

I agree. I said that I never thought Trump should have said he would look into her situation. Sure, it sounded great on the campaign trail and the crowds loved it, but is it really something he wants to waste political capital and time on? He wants to unify the country (which I think can only be done to some extent), and that’s going to cause a lot of controversy and division. However, now that he has said he is going to do it, if he doesn’t do it, there will be supporters (not me, but some) who will feel he’s not keeping his word. There is also the whole point of draining the swamp and some people being “too big” for prosecution - meaning that someone who wasn’t Hillary Clinton would be in serious hot water for what she did.

If Obama pardons her, Trump can just say that his hands are tied. There is nothing he can do about it. He won’t have to worry about any controversy or division. He can focus on jobs, immigration, healthcare, etc. Obama will be hated by the same people who already hate him and loved by the people who already do.

It will be interesting to see what Obama does, but I think he will. We can’t know for sure. I think he is salty over what she did with her emails as SOS. Remember that Wikileaks showed Obama knew that she had a private email. This is contrary to what he said about learning about it on TV. This case could involve him, and so that would be a reason to pardon her. On the other hand, her email situation may have cost him his legacy because it ushered in Trump. That could be reason to not pardon her.

Again, though, I agree it would be easy for our side if he does.

42 posted on 11/15/2016 11:56:36 PM PST by Pinkbell (http://dtforpres.blogspot.com/2016/11/cnn-lies-multiple-times-to-help-hillary.html)
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Slashrat posted:

Just checking; Obama couldn't pardon Hillary even if he wanted to because she hasn't been convicted of anything yet, right?

Darkman Fanpage posted:

Has Freep reacted to the fact Obama will probably be part of Trump's kitchen cabinet and advising him on things?

jojoinnit posted:

Does that mean unofficial advisor?

Darkman Fanpage posted:

Yes. A kitchen cabinet is a group of people not officially assigned to cabinet positions but who have the president's ear regarding policy decisions.

jojoinnit posted:

Cool but I honestly can't imagine that'll be much of anything after the inauguration.

jojoinnit posted:

Cool but I honestly can't imagine that'll be much of anything after the inauguration.

Jagged Jim posted:

To: ReaganGeneration2

Obama has NO LEGACY!!! Name ONE THING that could be considered a success......... still waiting!!!!!!

29 posted on 11/15/2016 4:45:54 PM PST by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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jojoinnit posted:

Cool but I honestly can't imagine that'll be much of anything after the inauguration.

Neo_Crimson posted:

Obama and Pence vying for the Shadow Presidency would be the cherry on top of this crypto-fascist poo poo sundae.

robotsinmyhead posted:

I want Obama to train Trump to be like Wimp Lo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d696t3yALAY

Neo_Crimson posted:

Obama and Pence vying for the Shadow Presidency would be the cherry on top of this crypto-fascist poo poo sundae.

Darkman Fanpage posted:

Trump and Obama might as well have a tv show because there's going to be a whole lot of antics. The guy that spent the majority of Obama's presidency screaming that Obama was born in Kenya is now president and Obama has to help him not gently caress up being president, not because he wants to but for the good of the American people.

Darkman Fanpage posted:

Trump and Obama might as well have a tv show because there's going to be a whole lot of antics. The guy that spent the majority of Obama's presidency screaming that Obama was born in Kenya is now president and Obama has to help him not gently caress up being president, not because he wants to but for the good of the American people.

evilmiera posted:

Obama for acting VP forever.

But yeah, considering Trump just had to fire a large portion of his transition team this is all for the best.

chitoryu12 posted:

I seem to have missed this. Was there something he didn't know regarding employment in the West Wing?

chitoryu12 posted:

I seem to have missed this. Was there something he didn't know regarding employment in the West Wing?

Captain_Maclaine posted:

Probably, but this results from yet another low-level civil war going on between factions within his advisors. This time it's Kushner versus what's left of the Christie brigade.

Secret Agent X23 posted:

In Obama's position, I'm not sure I could resist the urge to say, "Trump, you sorry-rear end, sad-sack, ignorant motherfucker..." at every turn. If he does resist, he's a better man than I (although I'll admit that's setting the bar pretty low).

SocketWrench posted:

He pissed you psychos off to the point you elected human trash that is going to have the worst term since Grant

Gorilla Salad posted:

Also, corrupt public servants should be fed to woodchippers. So there's that.

Keyser S0ze posted:

Obama definitely eviscerated Trump and his backers in their "private meeting" before they came out and Trump stared at the floor and mumbled. Probably also reminded him the GOP would actually be calling all his shots and not him.

Secret Agent X23 posted:

In Obama's position, I'm not sure I could resist the urge to say, "Trump, you sorry-rear end, sad-sack, ignorant motherfucker..." at every turn. If he does resist, he's a better man than I (although I'll admit that's setting the bar pretty low).

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To: maggief

I think this will end up being ok. We’ll see. I’m not surprised here and I’m not too bothered by it. Stay the course where it matters. Keep the Trump Train on the tracks.

11 posted on 11/15/2016, 11:03:28 AM by TangledUpInBlue

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To: maggief

This is a mistake, but they won’t know it until he starts obstructing President Trump and they start getting angry calls and letters.


12 posted on 11/15/2016, 11:03:59 AM by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam , Know Peace)

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To: maggief

Unanimous?! Seriously? We need new members. Primary all of them.


19 posted on 11/15/2016, 11:07:43 AM by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp: Replace Ryan & McConnell; Primary Lyn' Ted and others.)

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To: maggief

Alternately, he shot at the king and missed.

Now Trump has him by the balls and is ready to start twisting.


22 posted on 11/15/2016, 11:08:32 AM by Luircin (Dancing in the streets! Time to DRAIN THE SWAMP!)

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To: maggief

He’s a seething cauldron of amnesty waiting for a chance to enact it.


26 posted on 11/15/2016, 11:10:18 AM by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)

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To: xzins

The most junior congressman could be Speaker at this point, because he only has to ask three questions of President Trump on a daily basis:

1. What do you want?

2. Where do you want it?

3. How high do I need to stack it?

36 posted on 11/15/2016, 11:14:57 AM by TADSLOS (God Bless President-Elect Trump! God Bless the United States of America!)

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To: maggief

Illegal vote, should only occur when new congress is sworn in.


37 posted on 11/15/2016, 11:15:13 AM by Mouton (The insurrection laws maintain the status quo now.)

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To: maggief

How the hell does an OUTGOING congress impose a leader on the INCOMING congress?

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.....................!!!!!!!!

These people are sure slow learners...


62 posted on 11/15/2016, 11:43:56 AM by Mr. K (Trump is running against EVERYONE. The Democrats, The Media, and the establishment GOP)

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To: maggief

Trump won Wisconsin inspite of Ryan’s best efforts to stab Trump in the back again and again.


81 posted on 11/15/2016, 12:46:00 PM by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)

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To: maggief

Paul Ryan must NOT be next in line after VP for President.... with all this scary assassination talk.


82 posted on 11/15/2016, 12:46:18 PM by libsdrinkkoolaid

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To: maggief

you can just kiss goodbye anything you had hoped would need congressional approval. I FULLY SUPPORT TRUMP USING EOs FOR EVERYTHING JUST LIKE HIS OBSCENE RPEDECESSOR.

83 posted on 11/15/2016, 12:47:40 PM by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)

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To: maggief

I wish they would have picked another Speaker, but Trump doesn't decide this.

What Trump can do is whip these guys into shape, Ryan as speaker or not.

We need to stay the course. Trump will lead the House and Senate.

If that is not the case, the next House elections are not that far away, and we stand to gain more in the Senate in two years.

This movement is strong and just getting started.

96 posted on 11/15/2016, 1:14:11 PM by caddie

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To: maggief

Sometimes on this FreeRepublic forum I wonder if there are some who would’ve preferred for the USA to have a Constitution like Poland had in the 1790s rather than what the USA got to replace the Articles of Ceonfederation. In Poland every member of the Sejm had Liberum veto power where at any stage of a session they could shout “Nie pozwalam” which would mean an immediate end to the current session and nullification of any legislation that had already been passed. Thus the legislators could stay true blue to their principles and never cave in on anything.

Well it turns out that the leaders of Russia, Prussia, and Austria had their own principles too. They wanted a weak Poland and to partition her boundaries amongst themselves. So they bribed members of the Sejm to shut down any progress and Poland surely decayed and fell into 120+ years of disappearance from the map of Europe.

One of the key components of the USA Constitution is the Principle of Compromise. This is part of what has made the USA the greatest nation in world history as far as I’m concerned. How many of the Freepers are true to this principle? Or how many are dogmatically stubborn where it has to be their way or the highway? If America is to be Great then its leaders must compromise effectively. Then freedom may reign for the rest of our days and that of our grandchildren.

104 posted on 11/15/2016, 3:05:53 PM by Degaston

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To: maggief

Spineless cucks didn’t get the memo when Trump was elected.


109 posted on 11/15/2016, 3:44:35 PM by wastedyears (Clinton's supporters crying is the best thing ever..)

McGlockenshire posted:

An insightful post from a 1999 freeper.

420 Gank Mid posted:

Alter Ego posted:

This is shockingly insightful. How has this guy not been banned?

Fathis Munk posted:

This has to be satire or something

Alter Ego posted:

Don't malign Grant. He was a genuinely good man who trusted the wrong people, and his first term was actually above average for that era of Presidents.