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Serf
May 5, 2011



Looking forward to whatever our equivalent of the yellow stars are


FAUXTON posted:

But capitalism doesn't reward anyone for hard work, that's what seizing the means is for so you're stripping out the rear end in a top hat boss slurping up 80% of the revenue. Capitalism rewards people for selling at a markup and producing on the cheap. It's the outgrowth of an obsession with cottage industry in the face of an industrializing world and doesn't account for the way a basketweaver on a farm actually owned their own "factory" whereas textile mills straight up turned children into machinery. Having a steel mill owned by a workers collective doesn't preclude a loving market for steel, but it does protect the steel workers from being seen as a faceless cost to be minimized.

the fundamental mistake you are making is confusing the reality of capitalism with the myth that has been fed to us for centuries. the myth is real, the myth is what people believe. you will never ever convince them that they were lied to, and they will happily work themselves to death with the hope that they will "make it"

hobbes was right

E: now more than ever we need Ed Balls

E2: fb

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mannerup
Jan 11, 2004

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confused posted:

For me, I have a multi part plan:
1. Give money to news organizations. So far, beyond my usual subscriptions, I've started subscribing to the Washington Post and the LA Times. Will probably add the NYT and ProPublicia to the mix as well.
2. Volunteer at organizations which defend the people most vulnerable to the Trump presidency.
3. #CalExit as a backup plan if poo poo really hits the fan.

1. subscribe to nyt
2. volunteer
3. secede from the union

seems like a giant leap between 2 and 3

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

well what the gently caress

Serf
May 5, 2011


1. buy guns and ammo
2. wait for the goldshirts

Louisgod
Sep 25, 2003

Always Watching
Bread Liar
Q: Are you muslim?
A: No.

Q: Are you sure?
A. Oh yeah.

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

Serf posted:

1. buy guns and ammo
2. wait for the goldshirts red hats

ftfy

they're going to determine whether you're a muslim or not based on how arabic your last name sounds/skin colour/where you're from.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Serf posted:

Looking forward to whatever our equivalent of the yellow stars are


the fundamental mistake you are making is confusing the reality of capitalism with the myth that has been fed to us for centuries. the myth is real, the myth is what people believe. you will never ever convince them that they were lied to, and they will happily work themselves to death with the hope that they will "make it"

hobbes was right

E: now more than ever we need Ed Balls

E2: fb

Oh you're talking about pragmatism and not idealism. My bad.

Misc
Sep 19, 2008

gradenko_2000 posted:

The issue isn't that Piketty is wrong from an academic perspective, it's that his proposed solutions are impossible from a practical perspective.

Yes, I believe his observations to be accurate, but the logical conclusions to take from his observations are Marx's, not Piketty's nu-Keynes, deck chair shuffling. Capitalism will always find a way to wiggle out of any laws or "rights" that are put in its path.

Matoi Ryuko
Jan 6, 2004



gently caress this poo poo.

Louisgod
Sep 25, 2003

Always Watching
Bread Liar
In all seriousness isn't a "Muslim Registration Database", whether for citizens or immigrants, grossly unconstitutional and would get immediately swatted down once it gets thrown to the high court? Or maybe lol nothing matters and the SCOTUS will be packed with Apprentice finalists come that time

Serf
May 5, 2011


Agrajag posted:

ftfy

they're going to determine whether you're a muslim or not based on how arabic your last name sounds/skin colour/where you're from.

while I don't disagree that it will be the redhats, I still want to tie them in with their Nazi predecessors

UFOTacoMan
Sep 22, 2005

Thanks easter bunny!
bok bok!

Obama will be the first to register to show that he's the responsible adult and because he loves this country that much.

Serf
May 5, 2011


Louisgod posted:

In all seriousness isn't a "Muslim Registration Database", whether for citizens or immigrants, grossly unconstitutional and would get immediately swatted down once it gets thrown to the high court? Or maybe lol nothing matters and the SCOTUS will be packed with Apprentice finalists come that time

search your feelings: do you think the courts will matter

Cephalocidal
Dec 23, 2005


In a bizarre twist all muslim women are required to wear the hijab and all muslim men are required to prominently display the janbiya for ease of identification.

Louisgod
Sep 25, 2003

Always Watching
Bread Liar

Serf posted:

search your feelings: do you think the courts will matter

here are my feelings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9Nw4DM-yck

confused
Oct 3, 2003

It's just business.

mannerup posted:

1. subscribe to nyt
2. volunteer
3. secede from the union

seems like a giant leap between 2 and 3

#3 is for the case where poo poo goes really really bad, but I think it's good to lay the groundwork. Just think of all of the horrible poo poo governments are capable of doing to people, I believe Trump is capable doing of all of it. The US has done horrible poo poo to parts it's population in the past, no reason to think it won't in the future.

I think it's important to note, that my fear has nothing to do with a Republican in the White House. I've voted for several Republican Presidential candidates. If any of the other Republicans who ran (even Ted Cruz) had won, I would have been upset, but not scared. Trump scares the poo poo out of me.

deathbysnusnu
Feb 25, 2016


Louisgod posted:

In all seriousness isn't a "Muslim Registration Database", whether for citizens or immigrants, grossly unconstitutional and would get immediately swatted down once it gets thrown to the high court? Or maybe lol nothing matters and the SCOTUS will be packed with Apprentice finalists come that time

Trump is going to probably pack the court. We're so far past governing norms right now. In a 38 to 4 ruling, all foreigners to be put on trains to fun time camp.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Louisgod posted:

In all seriousness isn't a "Muslim Registration Database", whether for citizens or immigrants, grossly unconstitutional and would get immediately swatted down once it gets thrown to the high court? Or maybe lol nothing matters and the SCOTUS will be packed with Apprentice finalists come that time

There's a good chance that the Roberts Court would still swat down a Muslim Registration Database, even after Trump appoints Shinkuu Scalia, but a second appointment to replace a liberal might break the firewall.

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene
https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/798898493129629696

:bahgawd: WE JUST DONT KILL CHINAMEN ANYMORE :bahgawd:

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


https://twitter.com/SimonMaloy/status/798907487445389314

iospace
Jan 19, 2038



Paging Baloogan

Serf
May 5, 2011


confused posted:

I think it's important to note, that my fear has nothing to do with a Republican in the White House. I've voted for several Republican Presidential candidates. If any of the other Republicans who ran (even Ted Cruz) had won, I would have been upset, but not scared. Trump scares the poo poo out of me.

this exactly. as much as I despise republicans and all that they stand for, I would not be nearly as terrified of any of the other candidates as I am right now. under a republican you would know that poo poo would be bad but predictably bad. under Trump you have no idea what will happen, only that it will probably be bad and likely worse than bad. also Trump has no idea what Trump is gonna do either

FistEnergy
Nov 3, 2000

DAY CREW: WORKING HARD

Fun Shoe

:psyduck: and its still only november

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Louisgod posted:

Q: Are you muslim?
A: No.

Q: Are you sure?
A. Oh yeah.
No, all you need for identifying enemies of the people are these two steps:
1. Say words 'radical islamic terrorism' aloud
2. Now eat this bratwurst and down it with vodka

deathbysnusnu
Feb 25, 2016


Serf posted:

this exactly. as much as I despise republicans and all that they stand for, I would not be nearly as terrified of any of the other candidates as I am right now. under a republican you would know that poo poo would be bad but predictably bad. under Trump you have no idea what will happen, only that it will probably be bad and likely worse than bad. also Trump has no idea what Trump is gonna do either

He's already doing the go ahead with the Muslim registry, we're in full on Hitler territory right now. I'm thinking about booking the next flight out of the country if he goes with a national religious affiliation registration system to protect "religious freedom". I feel so loving safe as an atheist right now.

Hamelekim
Feb 25, 2006

And another thing... if global warming is real. How come it's so damn cold?
Ramrod XTreme
Seems bannon thinks capitalism that dehumanizes workers isn't good. He dislikes libertarianism but also state run businesses. He also believes we need a white Christian nation so yeah.

At least he sees that the Republican perspective of Paul Ryan is wrong. If what he said is what he really believe.

I guess that's good if you are white?

https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedNews/status/798643803728973825

Hamelekim fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Nov 16, 2016

Serf
May 5, 2011



he's not wrong, but human stupidity will prevent anyone from understanding the real issue on both sides of the fence


deathbysnusnu posted:

He's already doing the go ahead with the Muslim registry, we're in full on Hitler territory right now. I'm thinking about booking the next flight out of the country if he goes with a national religious affiliation registration system to protect "religious freedom". I feel so loving safe as an atheist right now.

the second he was elected and I realized that Bannon would have his ear I knew we were all hosed

crazy cloud
Nov 7, 2012

by Cyrano4747
Lipstick Apathy
Can I register as a Muslim even if I'm not one, just to gum up their .xls and the treads of the tank we Muslims will inevitably be grinded beneath?

Serf
May 5, 2011


I suppose that if Kushner wins the war for control then we'll just see massive corruption and awful poo poo that will still lead to global ecological collapse, but we could skip the American Holocaust on the way out

a.lo
Sep 12, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 6 hours!

crazy cloud posted:

Can I register as a Muslim even if I'm not one, just to gum up their .xls and the treads of the tank we Muslims will inevitably be grinded beneath?

We are going to be sent to labor camps eventually

comingafteryouall
Aug 2, 2011



I thought this was particularly cogent and can't wait for Jim Webb to run for the socialist worker's party :shrug:

mannerup
Jan 11, 2004

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♬No Matter What You Do Im Gonna Get It Without Ya♬

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https://twitter.com/ericawerner/status/798910882801709057

can't blame em

Louisgod
Sep 25, 2003

Always Watching
Bread Liar

crazy cloud posted:

Can I register as a Muslim even if I'm not one, just to gum up their .xls and the treads of the tank we Muslims will inevitably be grinded beneath?

"i singed up ironically! i signed up ironically!" I continue to insist as I slowly get dragged to a camp

Hamelekim
Feb 25, 2006

And another thing... if global warming is real. How come it's so damn cold?
Ramrod XTreme

deathbysnusnu posted:

He's already doing the go ahead with the Muslim registry, we're in full on Hitler territory right now. I'm thinking about booking the next flight out of the country if he goes with a national religious affiliation registration system to protect "religious freedom". I feel so loving safe as an atheist right now.

Bannon wants a Christian identity for the nation to bind it together. I wouldn't be too happy.

orange sky
May 7, 2007

crazy cloud posted:

Can I register as a Muslim even if I'm not one, just to gum up their .xls and the treads of the tank we Muslims will inevitably be grinded beneath?

A lot of people were talking about doing that. I honestly hope they use an online plataform. Even I would attempt to hack that poo poo, besides ddosing it all day with my toaster

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

Hamelekim posted:

Seems bannon thinks capitalism that dehumanizes workers isn't good. He dislikes libertarianism but also state run businesses. He also believes we need a white Christian nation so yeah.

At least he sees that the Republican perspective of Paul Ryan is wrong. If what he said is what he really believe.

I guess that's good if you are white?

https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedNews/status/798643803728973825

is this supposed to make people feel better? what are you even trying to get across?

this man is still a loving monster

Matoi Ryuko
Jan 6, 2004


Louisgod posted:

"i singed up ironically! i signed up ironically!" I continue to insist as I slowly get dragged to a camp

"Shut up and get on the train" Said the man with the AR15 wearing the MAGA hat

mannerup
Jan 11, 2004

♬ I Know You're Dying Trying To Figure Me Out♬

♬My Name's On The Tip Of Your Tongue Keep Running Your Mouth♬

♬You Want The Recipe But Can't Handle My Sound My Sound My Sound♬

♬No Matter What You Do Im Gonna Get It Without Ya♬

♬ I Know You Ain't Used To A Female Alpha♬
https://twitter.com/stevenportnoy/status/798911283240243200
https://twitter.com/stevenportnoy/status/798911533229035520

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

spineless gently caress

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Hamelekim
Feb 25, 2006

And another thing... if global warming is real. How come it's so damn cold?
Ramrod XTreme

Agrajag posted:

is this supposed to make people feel better? what are you even trying to get across?

this man is still a loving monster

I'm trying to find a reason to stay positive here. Because the future is scary right now.

I need to restock my go bag and stored food before trump takes power.

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