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Homestar Runner posted:ty. That's why I like PHUL so much, I have my low rep days and my hypertrophy range days. Today was hypertrophy legs so I'm crawling home. But I'm going to have some whey mixed with some oats for breakfast and it's going to be awesome!
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That looks interesting. I'm not sure how I feel about 4 days a week, I usually do 3 but I might try this out when I get bored of 5x5. How long does an average workout take you?
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Drunk Driver Dad posted:That looks interesting. I'm not sure how I feel about 4 days a week, I usually do 3 but I might try this out when I get bored of 5x5. How long does an average workout take you? Including rest time on the compound lifts, which at this stage is about three minutes between sets on the power days, each workout takes about an hour to an hour and fifteen minutes. You could probably speed it up if you wanted to by cutting out some of the accessory work, or by alternating push-pull sets with shorter rest times in between. Overall I'm really enjoying it though, and it's helped me to break through a few plateaus. Eventually, I'm going to give in and start a 6-day Push, Pull, Legs programme. The gym is becoming my life.
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I was working out next to a slammin korean babe who was doing all these wacky stretches beside me so I had to hold in a massive fart while doing facepulls. I finished my set and then walked outside and set off a car alarm. Also it ain't your life until you are on that 6 day a week stuff.
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Speaking of cardio, after a year of lap swimming I finally figured out why I was working so hard and still only had 40 minute miles... I haven't been applying power to 100% of my stroke. I was easing up at about waist level, not applying any power to the last 20% of the movement down to my hips. As soon as I figured that out, my lap time is down to 50 seconds, from 70, with the same effort. drat, I'm an idiot. But in my defense I was never actually taught how to swim, I've just been doing it wrong my whole life. Thanks, youtube videos breaking down the strokes of olympic swimmers
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I felt crappy yesterday, so I didn't go to the gym. But today, I'm going to the gym.
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GORDON posted:Speaking of cardio, after a year of lap swimming I finally figured out why I was working so hard and still only had 40 minute miles... I haven't been applying power to 100% of my stroke. I was easing up at about waist level, not applying any power to the last 20% of the movement down to my hips. As soon as I figured that out, my lap time is down to 50 seconds, from 70, with the same effort. drat, I'm an idiot. Dont stop at your hips... use your legs too when you swim they help a lot
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Fallows posted:i dont even remember my leg work out last night i was so tired yea i barely remember going to the gym last night its weird i ate breakfast for dinner last night which i DO remember 
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If your memory is fading and your mind is playing tricks on you, be sure to increase salami intake
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Fallows posted:Dont stop at your hips... use your legs too when you swim they help a lot I lost my legs in 'Nam thanks for triggering me. But actually yeah I do kick... did you know that triathalon swimmers usually don't kick? I didn't know that until recently.
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Zzulu posted:If your memory is fading and your mind is playing tricks on you, be sure to increase salami intake i just picked up a 2-pack of sliced salami from costco 
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Homestar Runner posted:there is fun to be had in both pushing super heavy things AND gettin your pump on with reps. do whatever / both IMO  your tendons.GORDON posted:Speaking of cardio, after a year of lap swimming I finally figured out why I was working so hard and still only had 40 minute miles... I haven't been applying power to 100% of my stroke. I was easing up at about waist level, not applying any power to the last 20% of the movement down to my hips. As soon as I figured that out, my lap time is down to 50 seconds, from 70, with the same effort. drat, I'm an idiot. (Did that this morning. Good stuff, and the warm, humid pool air was good on my sore throat)
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Zzulu posted:If your memory is fading and your mind is playing tricks on you, be sure to increase salami intake Salami is RED MEAT and VERY SALTY stay away from it.
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FedEx Mercury posted:Salami is RED MEAT and VERY SALTY stay away from it. 
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FedEx Mercury posted:Salami is RED MEAT and VERY SALTY stay away from it. Ok I guess I will just do pepperoni from now on then
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FedEx Mercury posted:Salami is RED MEAT and VERY SALTY stay away from it. you sound pretty salty ABOUT YOUR LACK OF GAINS 
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Update: shoulder still hurts really really bad to lift.
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Tiny Lowtax posted:Update: shoulder still hurts really really bad to lift. 
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Update: living out of my work truck for the next week in Fox Creek, Alberta. I could probably work out but I'll be living on Swanson Hungrymans and water 50km into the bush. So gently caress workouts.
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Tiny Lowtax posted:Update: shoulder still hurts really really bad to lift. 8 weeks no lifting
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Well that's one way to bulk. Today I ran four miles then did some core work. Sucks not lifting.
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Tiny Lowtax posted:Well that's one way to bulk. Today I ran four miles then did some core work. Sucks not lifting. If you go to the truck stop and question the age of the chicken strips or whatever, they will offer up a sweet discount.
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Tiny Lowtax posted:Well that's one way to bulk. Today I ran four miles then did some core work. Sucks not lifting. I know the feeling, I had to stop lifting for about six weeks at the start of the year and you don't realise how important an aspect of your life it's become until you're not able to do it. I hope that you get better soon.  Meanwhile, seven weeks into bulk and convinced I'm just getting fat. 
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Hey persmegma do people ever modify that PHUL? I don't really want all that leg volume, at least right now. My legs already blew up way past everything else on just 3x5 squats and 1x5 deadlifts when I did SS. In fact I still haven't worked over 150 lbs since dealing with my knee problem this second go around, and they are still bigger and more defined then my upper body. I'm thinking Squats 3x5 deadlift 1x5 on the Strength Leg day and maybe Front Squat 3x8 and romanian deadlift 3x8 on the leg hyper day. I can add ab poo poo to fill out my time on those days.
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Drunk Driver Dad posted:Hey persmegma do people ever modify that PHUL? I don't really want all that leg volume, at least right now. My legs already blew up way past everything else on just 3x5 squats and 1x5 deadlifts when I did SS. In fact I still haven't worked over 150 lbs since dealing with my knee problem this second go around, and they are still bigger and more defined then my upper body. I'm thinking Squats 3x5 deadlift 1x5 on the Strength Leg day and maybe Front Squat 3x8 and romanian deadlift 3x8 on the leg hyper day. I can add ab poo poo to fill out my time on those days. Yeah that all sounds fine to me, PHUL is really just a template when it comes to the accessory work. If you don't want to do the hypertrophy work on legs day, you could always turn it into a three day programme, with power and hypertrophy days for upper body and strength maintenance for lower.
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I think I'll keep it 4 days, I think upping frequency to hit my upperbody muscle groups 2 times a week as opposed to the 1.5 on SL might do me good. Unless you mean I could keep doing legs 3 days, but I've been wanting to work front squats and romanians in, so I may try it like I mentioned. Also thinking increasing weight only once a week would be more doable for me as well.
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Drunk Driver Dad posted:I think I'll keep it 4 days, I think upping frequency to hit my upperbody muscle groups 2 times a week as opposed to the 1.5 on SL might do me good. Unless you mean I could keep doing legs 3 days, but I've been wanting to work front squats and romanians in, so I may try it like I mentioned. Also thinking increasing weight only once a week would be more doable for me as well. I think it would be best to keep upper and lower on separate days to be honest, as otherwise the upper body volume will either leave you too tired for a good leg workout, or alternatively if you do legs first, it might impact the upper body lifts. But why not give it a shot, and see if it works for you? Edit: but I'd only do legs on two of those workouts, given your knee problems you don't want to irritate by increasing volume too much. There's a piece here on volume. The aworkoutroutine site is really good for a lot of this stuff, you should look through his writing on volume, he writes a little on joint stress too. Pesmerga fucked around with this message at 08:49 on Nov 18, 2016 |
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I've been doing some research (I asked Google) and it seems dumbbell bench presses are slightly better than barbell bench presses. It feels better when I do dumbells, and I can lift more too. Maybe time to ditch the barbell?
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bb bench is for fat powerlifters and isn't worth dying for imo *wrist shatters into a million pieces*
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Alan_Shore posted:I've been doing some research (I asked Google) and it seems dumbbell bench presses are slightly better than barbell bench presses. It feels better when I do dumbells, and I can lift more too. Maybe time to ditch the barbell? The benefit to me of the barbell is being able to rack it and get into a good position, which will eventually become too difficult to do on your own if you're using dumbbells. I mean, I'm starting to struggle a little bit with getting into position for dumbbell inclines at this point, and I'm only using 30kg in each hand.
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Pesmerga posted:The benefit to me of the barbell is being able to rack it and get into a good position, which will eventually become too difficult to do on your own if you're using dumbbells. I know what you mean, I have to really heft them up then slowly lower myself on the bench. It'll get easier though! MORE WEIGHT!
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Pesmerga posted:I think it would be best to keep upper and lower on separate days to be honest, as otherwise the upper body volume will either leave you too tired for a good leg workout, or alternatively if you do legs first, it might impact the upper body lifts. But why not give it a shot, and see if it works for you? Maybe you misunderstood, the way I wanted to do it keeps it that way. The only thing I'd consider on leg day is abs afterward, maybe curls. Also I feel pretty confident my knee issue is only from the tendons/muscles/whatever being tight from standing and walking all day. If I slowly warm up into squatting it's usually fine, at least here lately.
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Drunk Driver Dad posted:Maybe you misunderstood, the way I wanted to do it keeps it that way. The only thing I'd consider on leg day is abs afterward, maybe curls. Also I feel pretty confident my knee issue is only from the tendons/muscles/whatever being tight from standing and walking all day. If I slowly warm up into squatting it's usually fine, at least here lately. Ah yeah, sorry, i did, I thought you were saying doing legs as part of each workout. Nah, I think what you're suggesting is good, I hope it works for you!
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Drunk Driver Dad posted:Maybe you misunderstood, the way I wanted to do it keeps it that way. The only thing I'd consider on leg day is abs afterward, maybe curls. Also I feel pretty confident my knee issue is only from the tendons/muscles/whatever being tight from standing and walking all day. If I slowly warm up into squatting it's usually fine, at least here lately.
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Chinatown posted:closegrip bench for freaking lyfe I had to rescue a dude last week who was doing close grip bench without a spotter. Probably saved his life. If that was you, you're welcome.
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Good thing over thinking isn't prohibited in this thread! Also spicy Italian sausage gains (everything about it)
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Chest stuff today at the gym guys. I added a new blister / future callus on top of the 8 I already have. I've been hitting a couple hundred balls at the driving range every few days. My hand will be indestructible and hardened like a siberian babushka
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