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Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

Well, now we all know who drank from the swamp.

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LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


MaxxBot posted:

gently caress, it's pretty sad to say this but he was probably the only intelligent member of the Trump inner circle. Crazy sure but at least intelligent, now we're left with crazy and stupid.

I wonder what position that fuckboi Lewandowski will end up with.

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug

LeeMajors posted:

I wonder what position that fuckboi Lewandowski will end up with.

Last I heard he was being floated around for head of the RNC

Boon
Jun 21, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Crowsbeak posted:

Sanders actually said he would hold Trump to his promises to protect Medicare and social security. This is good.

What does that even mean? Like how the gently caress do you think he's going to do that if Trump wanted to take it down?

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

HorseRenoir posted:

Last I heard he was being floated around for head of the RNC

This, more than anything, makes me hopeful. Because he's an idiot and they're handing over party organization to him.

Edit: ^ make noise and publicly condemn attempts to privatize, make the public know that the Republicans own that poo poo.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


HorseRenoir posted:

Last I heard he was being floated around for head of the RNC

The Trumpification of the GOP will be complete.

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

L-Shaped


Nap Ghost

MaxxBot posted:

gently caress, it's pretty sad to say this but he was probably the only intelligent member of the Trump inner circle. Crazy sure but at least intelligent, now we're left with crazy and stupid.

Yup, from the few times I've seen him in person he's a shithead but he's not stupid.

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Boon posted:

What does that even mean? Like how the gently caress do you think he's going to do that if Trump wanted to take it down?

He's gonna do the Bernie finger wag at him :v:

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Boon posted:

What does that even mean? Like how the gently caress do you think he's going to do that if Trump wanted to take it down?

Hmmm what's that wonderful thing the Senate has? Oh yeah the filibuster?

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
The fact that basically every big named Republican is currently running away from Trump as fast as they can surely bodes well for his administration.

I have a feeling that the Dems are going to find plenty of anti-Trump Republicans to ally with when necessary

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

The fact that basically every big named Republican is currently running away from Trump as fast as they can surely bodes well for his administration.

I have a feeling that the Dems are going to find plenty of anti-Trump Republicans to ally with when necessary

Gooooo....Faithless electors!

Bhaal
Jul 13, 2001
I ain't going down alone
Dr. Infant, MD
Sure let me get out my hard-nihilist internet contrarian thinkpiece checklist:

  • Long winded so any arguments against this can be dismissed out of hand unless you specifically addressed all of my 17 points (corollary: if you give up arguing against me then my argument wins by technicality)
  • Build a strawman out of a meticulous curation of all available specific arguments, especially awkward or poorly considered ones, and belabor them until completion. No tangential detail is too pointless!
  • Lots of charts and graphs because even though there's enough data in this world to correlate anything, if you try to argue against a point I make with a chart then I get to accuse you of ignoring the facts
  • Context is like a forest: a composition of individual elements that build into greater meaning. Also, if one ever gets in your way, you can and should burn it to the ground
  • Succinctly concede your entire argument up front in the face of some of the strongest supporting evidence against it, and then dither for 4 paragraphs and navel gaze about the definitions of words until you have rambled enough to declare victory
  • Check out this time that a thing happened that fits my narrative (ie. trump didn't act racist that once). Watch me put together a number of similar events and frame it as though it's not an outlier or that it somehow makes up for the other times I'm definitely not mentioning
  • "This argument reminds me of..." {insert disproved historical argument or conspiracy theory}. It doesn't matter how specious the reason is you're reminded of the thing. The important part is you linked them and now can take down both by taking down one.

Bhaal fucked around with this message at 01:11 on Nov 18, 2016

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

I have a feeling that the Dems are going to find plenty of anti-Trump Republicans to ally with when necessary

i wouldn't place my hope in that

sitting congresscritters aren't going because why give up a safe career where you're about to have a lot more influence in a couple months

the other grifters and hangers on like gingrich and carson don't actually want to do any work beyond selling books and raking in speaking fees

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

the black husserl posted:

Kushner is the motivating force behind nearly all of this. Dude wants to rule the world. Dunno how he gets along with the anti-semetic Bannon, but hey, guess you gotta swallow some pride in the quest for world domination.

Kushner is the one who kept Bannon from being Chief of Staff, which is far more influential than "chief strategist". And Kushner is looking to close that off with pursuing Trump's ear on his own.


Now I've got to wonder if this was Gingrich who declined, like Carson, or if Trump snubbed him.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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I wonder when it's going to become obvious to the people who voted for Trump that they apparently actually voted for Jared Kushner.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

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Fojar38 posted:

I wonder when it's going to become obvious to the people who voted for Trump that they apparently actually voted for Jared Kushner.

I'm guessing extreme anti-semitism.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Josef bugman posted:

I'm guessing extreme anti-semitism.
Don't you mean mainstream anti-Semitism?

galagazombie
Oct 31, 2011

A silly little mouse!

Josef bugman posted:

I'm guessing extreme anti-semitism.

Which is funny because Trump was the candidate of choice for anti-semites.

KaptainKrunk
Feb 6, 2006


It's wishful thinking on the part of Dems to think that "Drain the Swamp" meant anything but cracking down on Pesky Bureaucrats, liberal lobbyists, and Democrats.

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

Lightning Knight posted:

Yes but Hillary's problem wasn't really her record, it was that she didn't have the charisma or authenticity to convince people she was going to run against it. Obama bailed out Wall Street and still got reelected on his sick nasty charm.

actually Bush bailed out Wall Street

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

1: birtherism
2: steve bannon

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Business Gorillas posted:

Maybe you should try your pedantry in a bar in warren, Ohio and see how well it works out

Maybe you should try saying things that are true for the first time in your life. That Ohio guy most likely lost his job to someone in Alabama or Arizona or North Carolina rather than anywhere foreign. And that's just if his job wasn't lost because reduced labor requirements occurred, not even due to automation that often but often due to better in-country transportation meaning less need for multiple factories versus more centralized larger factories in other places. And if he actually lost it to somewhere foreign it was most likely a country without any sort of free trade agreement, unless your definition of free trade is "isn't embargoed like North Korea".

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/TeddyDavisCNN/status/799325143390568448

https://twitter.com/ZandarVTS/status/799331328332181504


seriously though what the gently caress are Senate Dems doing announcing they'll work with Trump on poo poo that will never happen?

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

Business Gorillas posted:

Maybe you should try your pedantry in a bar in warren, Ohio and see how well it works out

pretty rude of you to imply that the inhabitants of warren, ohio are dumb as gently caress

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

https://twitter.com/TeddyDavisCNN/status/799325143390568448

https://twitter.com/ZandarVTS/status/799331328332181504


seriously though what the gently caress are Senate Dems doing announcing they'll work with Trump on poo poo that will never happen?

Because when he doesn't do that poo poo and crashes the economy we can pretend we offered to help.

KaptainKrunk
Feb 6, 2006


Crowsbeak posted:

Because when he doesn't do that poo poo and crashes the economy we can pretend we offered to help.

But the Dems are loving horrible at optics. Trump will blame Yellen and the Fed, the Chinese, and Democrats for not implementing his tremendous plans. He'll probably get away with it too.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Old James posted:

Trump isn't going to have any allies once he takes office. He has shown no loyalty to the few Republicans who supported him in the election (see Carson, Christie, and Gingrich), why would anyone step out to help him now.

Because if they don't it runs the risk that he calls Obama, and you can be drat certain that Barack Obama is going to drop pretty much anything he's doing if it means guiding Trump away from the latest minefield Trump's herding the country towards.

And yeah, if the POTUS calls you and wants your help with something, you don't burn the biggest of bridges by telling him to gently caress off and likely validating in his eyes whatever poo poo Kushner and Bannon has said to make Trump distance himself from you in the first place.

Ron Jeremy posted:

Gooooo....Faithless electors!

I'd be ok with faithless electors swapping by the dozens and declaring Clinton the winner if it wasn't for that whole "would almost certainly spark a civil war" thing. The EC needs to be abolished in its entirety and we need to go to a straight popular vote but that's less than likely.

Plus it's looking more and more like Trump's going to be used heavily by his son-in-law. At the rate things are going I won't be surprised if Kushner's dad is given a full pardon within Trump's first year in office.

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/EricHolthaus/status/799242791507243008

fortunately it's too late for Trump's election to gently caress up the environment

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:



fortunately it's too late for Trump's election to gently caress up the environment

https://twitter.com/SeanMcElwee/status/799408647419863040

Martin Random
Jul 18, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

boner confessor posted:

"the guy who is quantifiably less popular is, actually, more popular" - someone trying to position themselves as a sincere and serious thinker, not a troll or joke post in any way

Actually, he's president

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

KaptainKrunk posted:

But the Dems are loving horrible at optics. Trump will blame Yellen and the Fed, the Chinese, and Democrats for not implementing his tremendous plans. He'll probably get away with it too.

That's why Bush was not blamed for Iraq.

Weird BIAS
Jul 5, 2007

so... guess that's it, huh? just... don't say i didn't warn you.

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

https://twitter.com/EricHolthaus/status/799242791507243008

fortunately it's too late for Trump's election to gently caress up the environment

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/2016/04/sensor-on-f-17-experiencing-difficulties-sea-ice-time-series-temporarily-suspended/

Apparently the sensor hosed up. Graph is no longer available from nsidc.

quote:

NSIDC has suspended daily sea ice extent updates until further notice, due to issues with the satellite data used to produce these images. The vertically polarized 37 GHz channel (37V) of the Special Sensor Microwave Imager and Sounder (SSMIS) on the Defense Meteorological Satellite Program (DMSP) F-17 satellite that provides passive microwave brightness temperatures is providing spurious data. The 37V channel is one of the inputs to the sea ice retrieval algorithms, so this is resulting in erroneous estimates of sea ice concentration and extent. The problem was initially seen in data for April 5 and all data since then are unreliable, so we have chosen to remove all of April from NSIDC’s archive.

It is unknown at this time if or when the problem with F-17 can be fixed. In the event that the sensor problem has not been resolved, NSIDC is working to transition to another satellite in the DMSP series. Transitioning to a different satellite will require a careful calibration against the F-17 data to ensure consistency over the long-term time series. While this transition is of high priority, NSIDC has no firm timeline on when it will be able to resume providing the sea ice time series. For background information on the challenges of using data in near-real-time, see the ASINA FAQ, “Do your data undergo quality control?”

AHungryRobot
Oct 12, 2012

Thank god

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

https://twitter.com/TeddyDavisCNN/status/799325143390568448

https://twitter.com/ZandarVTS/status/799331328332181504


seriously though what the gently caress are Senate Dems doing announcing they'll work with Trump on poo poo that will never happen?

https://www.thenation.com/article/bernie-sanders-talks-primary-challenge-obama-good-idea-our-democracy-and-democratic-part/

quote:

Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders continues to argue that a Democratic primary challenge to President Obama would be “good for democracy and for the Democratic Party.”

Sanders will not be a candidate. The Vermont independent, who caucuses with Senate Democrats, is running for re-election in 2012.

But Sanders, who has been sharply critical of Obama’s compromises with the Republican right on economic and fiscal policy, continues to talk up the idea of a primary challenge as a vehicle to pressure the president from the left.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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That kind of colossal drop over the course of a single year is really, really obviously a data error and it's weird everyone instantly believed it.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Evil Fluffy posted:

I'd be ok with faithless electors swapping by the dozens and declaring Clinton the winner if it wasn't for that whole "would almost certainly spark a civil war" thing. The EC needs to be abolished in its entirety and we need to go to a straight popular vote but that's less than likely.

Plus it's looking more and more like Trump's going to be used heavily by his son-in-law. At the rate things are going I won't be surprised if Kushner's dad is given a full pardon within Trump's first year in office.

A civil war isn't happening and is arguably less bad than a Trump presidency.

Convergence
Apr 9, 2005

I don't understand where that graph came from, it doesn't match the source currently:

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

AHungryRobot
Oct 12, 2012

Any minimum wage increase at all under a Republican lead government would be a miracle. That doesn't mean we shouldn't also hold the Democratic Party to a higher standard.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

AHungryRobot posted:

Any minimum wage increase at all under a Republican lead government would be a miracle. That doesn't mean we shouldn't also hold the Democratic Party to a higher standard.

Raise minimum wage vs look like idiots. I go with raise it.

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greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax
Welp. Co-worker beating feet back to Korea so I'll be doing twice the work for the same pay now.

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