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hopeandjoy posted:It was probably less that they "felt the need" and more that they actually literally needed to. Does anyone ever have a source for this? I just see it being passed around as if it's obviously true.
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Nov 17, 2016 06:42
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The staff have joked about the fanservice pushing the limits of what they can do in tv, but it's definitely not the kissing that's the problem.
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Nov 17, 2016 06:55
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Gratz to Phichit 
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Lupus Rufus posted:Georgi is a sack of poo poo tbh, he's basically passive-aggressively harassing his ex via his skating routine. There's nothing really sympathetic about his arc. From his previous routine to today's routine, it felt like "I am an evil witch who curses you!!" --> "Oh no, I'm so sorry for cursing you! Please pity me and love me and I'll lift the curse", which is like... emotional manipulation 101. Of course, she's having none of it and walked out (YEAAAAH that was also a lowkey satisfying moment in the episode). That's all internal monologue so all he's doing is being sad about his breakup while skating which is pretty funny and I would have left him too but doesn't make him a terrible person or anything
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Nov 17, 2016 08:19
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DisDisDis posted:That's all internal monologue so all he's doing is being sad about his breakup while skating which is pretty funny and I would have left him too but doesn't make him a terrible person or anything His ex is right there, and is a skater herself so she understands the language he's speaking - and he's not being shy about explaining it to anyone who listens, judging by how the entire rest of the cast gets what he's doing. This isn't just someone drawing angry doodles in their diary, this is a major artist making his next public piece of art about how his ex-girlfriend is a piece of poo poo but it's OK because he forgives her, and then premiering it right in front of her. What he's doing is pretty enormously lovely, and he's only a fun character because his giant manchild tantrum is being played for all the cringe comedy it can be.
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Nov 17, 2016 09:13
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And from the scenes with Mila, it seems like everyone in their ice skating circle knows about it. It's very public! That's kinda mortifying, and I feel bad for her.
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Nov 17, 2016 13:18
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devtesla posted:The staff have joked about the fanservice pushing the limits of what they can do in tv, but it's definitely not the kissing that's the problem. Probably would be because of butts. I mean, there have been "oh, how embarrassing" gay kisses in mainstream anime before as one-off, Naruto kisses Sasuke and both hate it kind of stuff. However the amount of adult butts is probably pushing it. This whole discussion hinges on what's the definition of "popular" is, which I guess is "anime that the majority will actually watch", because I have seen guys kiss on screen before but I watch a lot of things that get the [YAOI] tag in their file names, which implies fujo-bait that most people should vacate, and twelve years ago even something where guys kiss and live with each other but never have an onscreen sex life used to get doomed with that warning tag. Gravitation was certainly stupid, but saved it's sex scenes for the obligatory naughty OVA and had quite a lot of guys kissing during the series. Dramatical Murder had it's hacker dude kiss it's MC in the third episode or so but being based on a sexually explicit VN that was never going to find this size of an audience. Hell, if you want something actually kind of good compared to those two, Love Stage!! was only two years ago, was on TV and the whole setup is two guys who shared a kiss when they were young, with a bunch of gender bending thrown in for good measure. All that stuff didn't have a whole lot going for it beyond dudes making out with dudes, so I understand most of ADTRW missing all of it, but having seen them I have to LOL at the idea that this scene was forced into being framed as it was and wasn't intentional. Anyway, that's my soapbox rant, thank you for letting me have it. I'm at episode 4 now (watching dubbed on this one) and it's still pretty cute.
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Nov 17, 2016 14:12
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Some japanese bloggers have stated that the whole censorship issue is bullshit, the show didn't make the kiss explicit because they chose to do it that way, rather than being obligated by law. Either way, with how the scene was framed I can't believe people doubt they did kiss.
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Nov 17, 2016 14:13
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Blue Nation posted:Some japanese bloggers have stated that the whole censorship issue is bullshit, the show didn't make the kiss explicit because they chose to do it that way, rather than being obligated by law. Either way, with how the scene was framed I can't believe people doubt they did kiss. And I suspect they did it that way as part of a pattern of having much of the most important stuff in this show being what we don't see. Even the media-saturated life of a celebrity still has its moments of privacy.
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Nov 17, 2016 14:20
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Craptacular! posted:Gravitation was certainly stupid, but saved it's sex scenes for the obligatory naughty OVA and had quite a lot of guys kissing during the series. On the 3+1+3 combos this show loves
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Nov 17, 2016 16:00
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Darth Walrus posted:And I suspect they did it that way as part of a pattern of having much of the most important stuff in this show being what we don't see. Even the media-saturated life of a celebrity still has its moments of privacy. pretty much. They made it crystal clear what happened. Yuri's arm being in the way in a show that has such a focus around media and its relationship with celebrity was likely to show the moment as very intimate and meant to be kept between them rather than broadcast everywhere and all.
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Nov 17, 2016 16:35
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It was a good kiss imo
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Nov 17, 2016 18:21
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Darth Walrus posted:His ex is right there, and is a skater herself so she understands the language he's speaking - and he's not being shy about explaining it to anyone who listens, judging by how the entire rest of the cast gets what he's doing. This isn't just someone drawing angry doodles in their diary, this is a major artist making his next public piece of art about how his ex-girlfriend is a piece of poo poo but it's OK because he forgives her, and then premiering it right in front of her. the dude is doing an ice skating equivalent of a taylor swift song, it's not that bad.
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Nov 17, 2016 18:26
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If this is any indication, it should sell pretty well. #3 in the anime category, behind Gundam and Love Live.
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Nov 17, 2016 18:32
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dogsicle posted:the dude is doing an ice skating equivalent of a taylor swift song, it's not that bad. It's very hurtful, a few adult character bit parts are emotionally impacted.
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Nov 17, 2016 19:25
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dogsicle posted:the dude is doing an ice skating equivalent of a taylor swift song, it's not that bad. Counterpoint - everyone else completely getting what he's trying to do. It's not funny because he means well, it's funny because he's clearly trying to hurt her and is using the lamest, most pathetic possible way to do it. It's like trying to do an honour killing with a banana, or an an acid attack with half a lemon.
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Nov 17, 2016 19:47
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the straights aren't OK and that's the joke
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Nov 17, 2016 21:47
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This show makes me so ridiculously happy.  It's really sweet, really cute, really funny and really pretty. I love all the music, and the fact that there's been zero gay panic in the show makes watching it a joy. I like how they've used the proportions of the characters to represent the relationship between Yuri and Victor. Yuri starts out as this out of shape, almost like a little kid still compared to Victor being taller and sculpted like a greek god. They're more like equals now.
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Nov 17, 2016 22:07
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Nov 17, 2016 22:12
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Darth Walrus posted:Counterpoint - everyone else completely getting what he's trying to do. This is what makes it a poo poo move, yea. If it was just a private 'gently caress you' thing it'd be 'ok whatever you're a child' but everyone in their circle knew exactly what he was doing, that made it a much more public thing and a way shittier way to behave. Also yea, the joke wasn't 'aw look at him trying', the joke was 'haha look at this impotent baby having an ice-tantrum, no one around him thinks he's the winner here but he's too dumb to see that'. You're super not supposed to like him.
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Nov 17, 2016 22:28
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https://twitter.com/halcyon_pub/status/799387280309944320
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i guess i can just go back to this postDarth Walrus posted:His ex is right there, and is a skater herself so she understands the language he's speaking - and he's not being shy about explaining it to anyone who listens, judging by how the entire rest of the cast gets what he's doing. This isn't just someone drawing angry doodles in their diary, this is a major artist making his next public piece of art about how his ex-girlfriend is a piece of poo poo but it's OK because he forgives her, and then premiering it right in front of her. i don't think georgi is blasting his embarrassing breakup for everyone to hear, especially since only two characters in the entire cast comment on it and they're indirectly related to it (his rinkmates). it's hardly as public as anybody here is making it out to be, though there is social media documentation that you could say blurs that line. he's also not making his performance about how she's a piece of poo poo! he's broken up about being dumped and his short program is basically him channeling that angst into a routine. it sucks to be broken up with, i'm not going to begrudge him using those negative feelings as inspiration in this case. the free skate is where it does get dicey, because you see him express persistence in getting her back/"protecting" her. still, this is at worst a lovely internal monologue only somewhat expressed through a skating routine that still has artistic/athletic merit. i don't think he's meant to be likable and is the butt of the joke, but the dude is ineffectual. he's not even acting on his thoughts other than skating them out, which is pretty coded.
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Nov 18, 2016 02:28
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I mean he has said the theme of his skating this season is heartbreak though (the announcer was talking about it), the way yuuri said his was love, so it doesn't seem inconceivable that fans would know what was up? Look at least he's not having an orgasm Everytime he skates unlike some other people we could talk about 
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Nov 18, 2016 02:43
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Chris needs to step up his games and have multiple orgasms on the ice, perform the skating routine equivalent of tantric sex. Only then will he achieve true mature eros.
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Nov 18, 2016 02:51
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He's a pro figure skater who was dating another pro figure skater, the latter of which is posting photos on instagram of herself in bed with her new guy. It's pretty public.
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Nov 18, 2016 02:58
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someone awful. posted:I mean he has said the theme of his skating this season is heartbreak though (the announcer was talking about it), the way yuuri said his was love, so it doesn't seem inconceivable that fans would know what was up? i mean yes, heartbreak as a theme + their social media posts means essentially anybody could know what's up with his routine. the same is true for any artist who has publicly available information related to their life or w/e. i don't feel like it's a super meaningful point when it's not brought up in the show and could just extend into infinity. more importantly, the content of his art isn't demeaning or slanderous to who it's about so people knowing or being able to sleuth it out doesn't really make the situation worse regardless of people knowing. as for chris, at least he learned to suppress his erections while skating.
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Nov 18, 2016 02:59
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Wow i can't believe there are Georgi apologists in here. mods??
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Georgi is incredibly problematic
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yeah ill be honest zhukov did some pretty messed up poo poo
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Nov 18, 2016 04:22
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i'm glad we have fanartists willing to correct the mistakes in the show https://twitter.com/mmmaoh/status/799024440495525900
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dogsicle posted:i'm glad we have fanartists willing to correct the mistakes in the show good
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https://twitter.com/kubo_3260/status/798945769747120133 Mitsurou Kubo tweeted that this week's episode of a drama wherein the two leads finally kissed "felt like it synchronized with something, but that might just be my imagination." I'm comfortable calling that confirmation. (She also drew Evgenia Medvedeva fanart.)
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Slithy Toves posted:(She also drew Evgenia Medvedeva fanart.)  Reading her tweets is a joy.
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Vastakaiun posted:
This unironically.
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Miss Nomer posted:I love how crazy Evgenia went for this episode We can only hope she has a new exhibition routine done in costume.
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Nov 18, 2016 14:45
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The skating stories seemed to emulate other amines. Guang Long's looked very Cowboy Bebop, while Georgi's was super JoJo's Bizarre Adventure (his costume in ep6 screamed JoJo) with its colours and angles. My boyfriend and I binged the first 4 episodes together when that was all there was, and now we watch it every week and love every moment. I have to deal with the fact that he now says that Phichit is his other boyfriend. I've booked us tickets to go ice skating together in December.
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Miss Nomer posted:I love how crazy Evgenia went for this episode Evgenia is just ridiculously cute. Also glad for fanart for this show. My phone is like bursting full of pix.  http://nijuukoo.tumblr.com/post/153333370972/what-started-off-as-a-doodle-ended-up-with-me-not The_Doctor posted:The skating stories seemed to emulate other amines. Guang Long's looked very Cowboy Bebop, while Georgi's was super JoJo's Bizarre Adventure (his costume in ep6 screamed JoJo) with its colours and angles. Nice! My husband and I watch them together now, but I have to admit... I watch each episode at least twice. 
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