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bringer
Oct 16, 2005

I'm out there Jerry and I'm LOVING EVERY MINUTE OF IT

Ether Frenzy posted:

The fat American driver needs to shut the gently caress up because he wasn't funny in the slightest. Alternately he can be this show's Jason Dawe


They will probably have a South African driver next week. Same racing driver every week is too Stiggish, even if he is a fat American who can't shut up.

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Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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They did say the whole point of having a ringer driver was so it would be the same person every week, otherwise comparative lap times will be meaningless. So I don't know, I think the American might be there to stay, unless they're going to toss out the whole "serious" lap times thing altogether somehow.



One of the best bits, by the way:

Hammond: "This 918 gets 90 mpg."
Clarkson: "Really?"
Hammond: "Really."
Clarkson: "And who owns Porsche these days?"
Hammond: "That would be VW."
Clarkson: :catstare:

Been waiting a good long time to see what their take on that whole thing would be. Did not disappoint.

Eb
May 6, 2003

Ether Frenzy posted:

So since we're a couple hours from the show airing, here's some spoilers. Do not read this unless you want to know what happened.
Thanks for the report! How long ago did they film this?

CactusWeasle
Aug 1, 2006
It's not a party until the bomb squad says it is

bringer posted:

They will probably have a South African driver next week. Same racing driver every week is too Stiggish, even if he is a fat American who can't shut up.

I wish they had just let Mike Skinner be Mike Skinner because he is awesome:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UgObvliqFU

Keyser_Soze
May 5, 2009

Pillbug

bringer posted:

No, because a permanent base is one of the things they've joked about being too similar to Top Gear.
http://jalopnik.com/the-grand-tour-had-to-take-tons-of-precautions-to-avoid-1788379688

That's why their racing car driver was in a suit covered in decals and talked all the time. The Stig wears white and doesn't talk.

Top Gear has presenters come on the show for an interview and a few laps. Grand Tour has celebrities dying by the handful.

They are making Bizarro-Top Gear.

Yeah but it sounds like they immediately hated the logistics and getting the tents set up. They could do 6 shows at the base and the rest at other locations and have the same freedom and anti-BBC vibe. A real track would be great for them to flog on as well.

Ether Frenzy
Dec 22, 2006




Nap Ghost

Eb posted:

Thanks for the report! How long ago did they film this?

It was Saturday Sept 24th for the opening sequence filming, and Sunday Sept 25th for the in-tent studio show.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Holy gently caress what's with that girl's teeth :mrgw:

Otherwise it was brilliant, I didn't think the studio bits were any more cringey than some of the old school scripted segments. Plenty of great jokes and car porn as usual.

Un-l337-Pork
Sep 9, 2001

Oooh yeah...


That was great. Yeah, there were a few cringe-worthy moments, but I felt the same way about the three of them on TG. The producers of Top Gear should just give up now, or completely reinvent their show, because this is better in every way.

HATECUBE
Mar 2, 2007

wait what happened to Ben Collins?

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

Un-l337-Pork posted:

The producers of Top Gear should just give up now, or completely reinvent their show, because this is better in every way.

I feel like Chris Harris did a better review of the M2, but it's been a while since I've seen that episode so I could be wrong,

uPen
Jan 25, 2010

Zu Rodina!

HATECUBE posted:

wait what happened to Ben Collins?

He was never involved.

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

Un-l337-Pork posted:

That was great. Yeah, there were a few cringe-worthy moments, but I felt the same way about the three of them on TG. The producers of Top Gear should just give up now, or completely reinvent their show, because this is better in every way.

Absolutely agreed, New Not Top Gear has made New So-Called Top Gear redundant.

Only thing I'll miss is the BBC super music licence that allowed them to use everything under the sun.

howe_sam posted:

This is why I knew what the result of final timed laps would be, or at least had a pretty good idea.

Yeah that part had gotten a little spoiled ahead of time by real events.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

mobby_6kl posted:

Holy gently caress what's with that girl's teeth :mrgw:

Otherwise it was brilliant...

You cannot say her teeth weren't brilliant.

Apart from the "American" bit, I liked all of it. I got properly trolled by the celebrity bit as well. It might be a bit too much joking around, but I think they need to settle into their new thing, and let new things happen.

Tide
Mar 27, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
Not sure why Mike Skinner has such a terrible southern accent when he's from California and most interviews I've seen of him he seems pretty 'normal' :iiam:

Loved it. Sure a couple things fell flat, but thoroughly enjoyed it

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Nickelsack posted:

Not sure why Mike Skinner has such a terrible southern accent when he's from California and most interviews I've seen of him he seems pretty 'normal' :iiam:

He should have just did a straight up Pat Buttram impression.

HATECUBE
Mar 2, 2007

uPen posted:

He was never involved.

Yea research says that was from a live show, rip

keevo
Jun 16, 2011

:burger:WAKE UP:burger:
Kinda wish they had Tanner Foust instead. Also what was Jerome saying when he talking about the three cars?

Ether Frenzy
Dec 22, 2006




Nap Ghost
Basically the opposite of what the subtitles said. Ferrari is magnificent, McLaren is very twitchy and uncontrollable/a handful.

ApathyGifted
Aug 30, 2004
Tomorrow?

keevo posted:

Kinda wish they had Tanner Foust instead. Also what was Jerome saying when he talking about the three cars?

Kinda wonder if his association with the Top Gear brand might make that trouble legally.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
I really liked it. Perhaps a little forced in places, but it''s still much more the show I want compared to the BBC's new TG. I'm definitely not convinced by the I Can't Believe It's Not Stig racing driver routine, though.

As a side note, can we just take a moment to appreciate Carol Vorderman's shirt?



Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

ApathyGifted posted:

Kinda wonder if his association with the Top Gear brand might make that trouble legally.

Hasn't US Top Gear been canceled?

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

InitialDave posted:


As a side note, can we just take a moment to appreciate Carol Vorderman's shirt?





One fell from the sky, the other bit by a snake. Vorderman? Natural, obvious, causes. :jimmycarrlaugh:

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

me @ ur posts


Fun Shoe

InitialDave posted:

I really liked it. Perhaps a little forced in places, but it''s still much more the show I want compared to the BBC's new TG. I'm definitely not convinced by the I Can't Believe It's Not Stig racing driver routine, though.

As a side note, can we just take a moment to appreciate Carol Vorderman's shirt?





Heh, yeah I was laughing at that so hard when they cut over to her.

Anyway, only annoying part imo was the stupid Air Force 'fight' that plain went on too long.

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

Mister Kingdom posted:

Hasn't US Top Gear been canceled?

Kind of yeah, they're amenable to finding a new home for it, but at the moment it's dead

Bankok
Sep 10, 2004

SPARTA!!!

mobby_6kl posted:

Holy gently caress what's with that girl's teeth :mrgw:

I'll admit I was transfixed by her and her teeth, and her palm tree leggings too when they did the wide shot.

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep
My only real beef with it was that without the unfettered access to music the BBC show had some of the soundtrack felt a bit musak.

Otherwise it's a hell of a first episode of anything really.

drunken officeparty
Aug 23, 2006

Has top gear ever done a Tesla

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Yes and it was very controversial.

West SAAB Story
Mar 13, 2014

by Athanatos

(and can't post for 222 days!)

Cojawfee posted:

Yes and it was very controversial.

By this, he means "They probably made more poo poo up, and it pissed off the company that loaned it to them". Hope that helps.

Rated PG-34
Jul 1, 2004




Ether Frenzy posted:

Basically the opposite of what the subtitles said. Ferrari is magnificent, McLaren is very twitchy and uncontrollable/a handful.

Just based on what he said, you could predict the outcome. Clarkson had to bet on it to preserve some suspense I suppose.

drunken officeparty
Aug 23, 2006

I'm not a car person and just watch for pretty cars and goofy british hijinks, but aren't Teslas supposed to be just as good as all these hypercars but also all electric? What's there to be controversial about

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
They tested the Tesla Roadster and Tesla said they lied about how long the cars lasted in order to make an interesting story.

Tricky Ed
Aug 18, 2010

It is important to avoid confusion. This is the one that's okay to lick.


Second viewing, and even knowing it's coming that moment where the other two mustangs appear is magical.

And the cinematography somehow got better.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

Chris Knight posted:

Anyway, only annoying part imo was the stupid Air Force 'fight' that plain went on too long.

That must have been kind of a drag for the crowd to play along with to shoot.

Tricky Ed posted:

And the cinematography somehow got better.

It was great but I thought they really overdid vignetting in a lot of places. Like I need to get 4K to still experience 1080p in the middle of the screen that isn't blacked out.

Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.

drunken officeparty posted:

I'm not a car person and just watch for pretty cars and goofy british hijinks, but aren't Teslas supposed to be just as good as all these hypercars but also all electric? What's there to be controversial about

The last Tesla that Clarkson's Top Gear reviewed was the Roadster, which wasn't as fast as a Model S and didn't have the same range. Like current Teslas, it also tends to be a bit heavier than a similar gas-powered car and can't be refilled in under 5 minutes*.

I think Teslas are awesome and probably much nicer to live with than a standard supercar, but they aren't really designed for track use (doing a couple runs at the local dragstrip and then heading home down a twisty road is fine though).

*The main controversy came from Top Gear pretending their Tesla ran out of juice and were shown pushing it into the hanger to recharge. Elon Musk pulled the car's telemetry and angrily pointed out that the car never went below 30% charge (or something). Top Gear countered that they were merely trying to demonstrate why you can't spend all day at the track with one but didn't want to actually drain the car (which they could have easily done with a few more laps of "spirited driving") because it would have been very inconvenient to all involved. Then the internet started picking sides and Top Gear didn't review a Tesla again until new Top Gear did the Model X this past season.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Yeah, tesla batteries overheat and cut power within the first lap on most hot laps, it's not a track car.

The seven hunnert horsepower P 85D put down the same lightning lap time as the 2012 jeep grand cherokee SRT-8 on the faster track config. Slower than a mini cooper JCW.

I can't imagine clarkson would gloss over that fact.

NtotheTC
Dec 31, 2007


It is well worth having the x-ray thing for amazon prime on by the way. A mix of genuinely interesting stuff, never having to play "find the song", and.. well...

Falken
Jan 26, 2004

Do you feel like a hero yet?

mobby_6kl posted:

Holy gently caress what's with that girl's teeth :mrgw:

Otherwise it was brilliant, I didn't think the studio bits were any more cringey than some of the old school scripted segments. Plenty of great jokes and car porn as usual.
The girl with the black hair in braids? I thought she had a cute smile.

We were laughing at the looks of absolute terror when the P1 and Ferrari the Ferrari were trying to kill them. Those cars are the definition of untamed...

Ecstatic
Sep 30, 2010

keevo posted:

I thought it was funny at first but just kept going on and on. I am curious as to how they were able to get the Ferrari the Ferrari, the P1, and the Spyder on the same track and racing against each other. I thought none of the manufacturers would allow it?

Ferrari, in particular are very demanding when it comes to media on their cars. They famously "don't advertise" instead promote their brand via car shows/mags/website review their cars combined with the F1 team for media exposure. This has led to certain amounts of "gaming the system" when providing cars, Chris Harris writes about it very well here. http://jalopnik.com/5760248/how-ferrari-spins

So my guess.... They managed to get Ferrari to agree to provide a car on the proviso that it "will not lose a drag race". I found it very hard to believe that with launch control on all three, they couldn't produce repeatable results (but hell they made it look believable with the cars throwing themselves around).

The laptimes ..... poo poo, dunno. I know Porsche were up for a go anytime anywhere, Mclaren were keen as long as Ferrari didn't cheat, Ferrari were game if they could cheat. Really wasn't expecting them to be slower. Then again the closeness of it, might of meant that Ferrari agree to release the lap times (hence the delayed reveal).

I loved the show, it had it's misses but ultimately they captured the passion for cars that we all have perfectly in that opening sequence.

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sharkytm
Oct 9, 2003

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Sharkytm doot doo do doot do doo


Fallen Rib
I guess I'm in the minority, but I thought the episode had some issues. The air force fight was just cringy, the vignetting was turned up to 11, and I'm honestly not a huge fan of the new track. I'm sure as gently caress going to watch next week, the intro was amazing, and I'm glad we got to see the three Hypercars finally. I laughed out loud honestly a couple of times, which isn't common for me.

Nonetheless, it's great to have them back on the air, and I'm sure they'll get back into stride.

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