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Mordja posted:Malazan: Total War. There's a Malazan mod for Dominions 4
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V for Vegas posted:There's a Malazan mod for Dominions 4 
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Nov 18, 2016 22:26
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I stand by Bronze Age TW being the best idea.  What about Mexica: Total War? It's even got a big endgame threat built-in.
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Nov 18, 2016 23:30
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Zaphod42 posted:Yeah some kind of Mythology Total War would be aces too. I'd be a fun mix of the fantasy of Warhammer and the realism of like, Rome. Yeah, you could have human dudes with like, halberds or peasants with crossbows facing down half-man/half-beast people or maybe giant towering colossals with one eye who hurl stones!
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Nov 18, 2016 23:44
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Panfilo posted:Any pointers for Belegors campaign? It's much harder than the standard dwarf start. Nothing can kill your ghost thanes. Very very few things can call belegar or the runepriest. Go super light on infantry, heavy on rangers. Use your heroes/lord to tank infinite goblins/boyz while racking up kills with the ranged. This way, you'll have an unbeatable, relatively cheap stack that takes almost no attrition to make progress with. And yeah, build level 2 garrisons in your minor provinces.
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Nov 18, 2016 23:45
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Seriously, build walls, this cannot be overstated, Dwarfs on walls (aka DOW) are one of the most powerful things in this game.
I can have moments of... eccentricity and sometimes be quite curious about things. Please forgive me if I do something foolish or rude.
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Nov 19, 2016 00:07
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I wonder if a good Wood Elf strategy might be to get on a boat and immediately book it up to Norsica. It feels like the norsican roster of light infantry and horse archers would be very vulnerable to a foot archer heavy faction, there are no walled cities up there, and no one will contest you for the lovely territory. You could get there in maybe 5 turns, forest-pathing over the mountains to the Riek and then boating up.
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Nov 19, 2016 00:08
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Smiling Knight posted:Nothing can kill your ghost thanes. Very very few things can call belegar or the runepriest. Go super light on infantry, heavy on rangers. Use your heroes/lord to tank infinite goblins/boyz while racking up kills with the ranged. This way, you'll have an unbeatable, relatively cheap stack that takes almost no attrition to make progress with. And yeah, build level 2 garrisons in your minor provinces. Be very careful about engaging enemy lords with your ghost thanes, especially ones that have picked up a few levels. If they've managed to get their hands on any of the magic weapons that gives them magic damage they will rip your thanes to shreds almost before you have a chance to react. Use the thanes to bully normal units while belegar kicks the crap out of the enemy lords.
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Nov 19, 2016 00:27
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Kicking off the fourth goonbowl (I think) is my matches with brocretin: https://www.dropbox.com/s/lw044jisikjk5ev/Sammut%20v%20Brocretin.zip?dl=0 Round 1 - Beastmen (Sammut) vs Chaos (Brocretin) Round 2 - Vampire Counts (Sammut) vs Empire (Brocretin) Round 3 - Crooked Moon (Sammut) vs Dwarves (Brocretin) Results: Sammut 2 Brocretin 1 Well played and good luck in your next rounds.
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Nov 19, 2016 00:29
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Trujillo posted:Kicking off the fourth goonbowl (I think) is my matches with brocretin: This was a great time! If anyone else wants to play me this evening, I'll be available for a few hours.
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Nov 19, 2016 00:35
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Hammerstein posted:But what if I want to rule as insane evil wizard ?
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Nov 19, 2016 00:49
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Stephen9001 posted:Seriously, build walls, this cannot be overstated, Dwarfs on walls (aka DOW) are one of the most powerful things in this game. Playing dwarves in sieges are one of the few things that trick me into thinking I'm good at this game.
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Nov 19, 2016 01:21
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fnordcircle posted:Playing dwarves in sieges are one of the few things that trick me into thinking I'm good at this game. Trust me, I know the feeling. How else do you think I came to that realization? I can have moments of... eccentricity and sometimes be quite curious about things. Please forgive me if I do something foolish or rude.
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Nov 19, 2016 01:52
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Krazyface posted:I stand by Bronze Age TW being the best idea. Warring States period China is a close 2nd.
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Nov 19, 2016 02:07
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Some really nice dude bought me the wood elves DLC because he likes the settlements mod. This game continues to be cool and good
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Nov 19, 2016 02:22
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If they're going to do a pike & shot era game, they really need to sit down and figure out how to do mixed formations properly.
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Nov 19, 2016 02:54
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Drunk in Space posted:If they're going to do a pike & shot era game, they really need to sit down and figure out how to do mixed formations properly. Pike and shot tactics didn't really use mixed formations in the sense that you had pikemen in one rank and arquebusiers in another. Actually it functioned somewhat closer to the detachment system of the Empire in the tabletop game.  Where you have an overall army formation that's made up of mix of pikemen and arquebusier units (battalions, regiments, what have you), but not mixed together within the same unit with the exception that there was close tactical cooperation between pikemen and what you might call attached arquebusier units that would maneuver close by, often on the flanks of, a pikeman unit to obtain an advantageous firing position while protected by the pikemen, who could maneuver to intercept or charge threats to the arquebusiers. Would have been nice if the Empire had something to portray the detachment mechanic they use in the tabletop, which really can produce a result very similar to historical pike and shot, though you can use a formation like depicted in the game without any special mechanic and have it work, at least against the AI at least (the trick kind of is to adjust the length and depth of infantry formation in response to enemy movements and move the handgunners into positions where they can fire at enemies engaged with the infantry), you do have a problem in that Empire infantry kind of lack the staying power to really pull this off, especially as none of them really are pikemen.
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Nov 19, 2016 04:24
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CA answered a question about how the Wood Elves' Amber resource will work. It's not a currency like gold, more like the food mechanic in TW: Attila:quote:[...] Owning amber is a constant effect. You have 1 amber. You don't really gain 1 amber per turn, but rather just own 1 amber. That's interesting, and of course stops you from conquering a territory for its amber, buying up a unit or tech then just abandoning it. You're going to need to protect your outposts (or strike up an alliance with Bretonnia ASAP)
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Nov 19, 2016 08:35
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gently caress, I want to play Wood Elves already. Glad to see that amber units aren't a permanent loss of amber.
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Nov 19, 2016 08:40
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Trujillo posted:Kicking off the fourth goonbowl (I think) is my matches with brocretin: Trujillo's cushioning of his Bestigor with a screen of cheaper infantry worked well against the Chaos infantry line, but he also had a compositional advantage in that brocretin seemed to have fit out his infantry for crushing a horde of Gors and Ungors rather than Best Gors. brocretin's flying squad could have gone after the Gorebulls instead of the Cygor, since Gorebulls will definitely kill monsters if they aren't put down first. Does anybody know if RoR artillery get accuracy bonuses from veterancy? I heard that they don't, which is why I never use the Hammer of the Witches. Plus, I would always target Blood Knights with a cannon over anything else. brocretin brought the great anti-VC combo of fire wizard and KotBS, and Trujillo's early expenditure of his dire wolves probably cost him any chance of putting a stop to the knightly rampage since KotBS will thrash Blood Knights 2v1. A horde of blazing sun knights is basically the worst thing that a bunch of dire wolves could randomly bump into while traversing a forest. Not really surprised that Greenskins vs Dorfs turned into another beatdown.
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Nov 19, 2016 10:13
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Aside from a few LLs, generic lords, and heroes the wood elf roster is 100% complete, weird. So their only expansion will be among the leaders or original units not in the table top.
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Nov 19, 2016 10:31
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Just won a legendary Chaos campaign the same turn that Chaos Gathering finally managed to catch up to me. Razed Nuln to the ground for the victory, then hit continue and the next turn Sarthorael obliterated my stacks. haha gently caress you Tzeench! Too slow!
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Nov 19, 2016 10:45
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or maybe... just as planned????
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Nov 19, 2016 12:05
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I had a third horde off razing Marienburg-controlled Bretonnia that would have won it for me. Didn't need them there because the Bret faction was technically dead, but I thought it would be more lore friendly to destroy Couronne and I thought Chaos Gathering wasn't coming for me because it had been twenty turns.
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Nov 19, 2016 12:10
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e: nm, can't read
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Finally capture 8 Peaks as Skarsnik after a long hard campaign that took forever so I was at least hoping for a small video or achievement as reward for my efforts. Nope, just a pop up box.
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Nov 19, 2016 13:48
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Randarkman posted:Pike and shot tactics didn't really use mixed formations in the sense that you had pikemen in one rank and arquebusiers in another. Actually it functioned somewhat closer to the detachment system of the Empire in the tabletop game. Depending on the formation/time, you could get that from a tercio where the arquebusiers are sheltering in the pike square.
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https://www.facebook.com/TotalWar/videos/1238301846245013/ Deepwood Scouts
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Don't hit people with your bow. Never look after nothing, never got nothing, as my grandad used to say.
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Mukip posted:Trujillo's cushioning of his Bestigor with a screen of cheaper infantry worked well against the Chaos infantry line, but he also had a compositional advantage in that brocretin seemed to have fit out his infantry for crushing a horde of Gors and Ungors rather than Best Gors. brocretin's flying squad could have gone after the Gorebulls instead of the Cygor, since Gorebulls will definitely kill monsters if they aren't put down first. Yeah, my takeaway from that battle was mostly that that build was a bad choice. I picked a list expecting Ungors and Gors and Trujillo called my bluff in a big way there, which is probably somewhat a result of my not owning Beastmen and not really understanding them. Also manticores need encouragement, their morale is more fragile than one might expect! Mukip posted:Does anybody know if RoR artillery get accuracy bonuses from veterancy? I heard that they don't, which is why I never use the Hammer of the Witches. Plus, I would always target Blood Knights with a cannon over anything else. brocretin brought the great anti-VC combo of fire wizard and KotBS, and Trujillo's early expenditure of his dire wolves probably cost him any chance of putting a stop to the knightly rampage since KotBS will thrash Blood Knights 2v1. A horde of blazing sun knights is basically the worst thing that a bunch of dire wolves could randomly bump into while traversing a forest. CA confirmed RoR artillery doesn't get the full veterancy bonuses they should have, ostensibly because it would be broken as hell. Also yeah, that battle was a build/counter-build situation. My choice of position on L'Anguille also helped a lot by mitigating the VC's natural mobility advantage and allowing me to hide things like Greatswords and KotBS's. The build is very solid (since it's just my interpolation of your as-of-yet undefeated VC counterbuild), but I think I will abandon the Hammer in favor of a standard cannon and some extra reserves in future. I will say the Arch Lector acquitted himself well! Mukip posted:Not really surprised that Greenskins vs Dorfs turned into another beatdown. It could have not, but I have no clue what I was thinking trying to vanguard deploy Rangers vs. Crooked Moon. The theme of those three battles (IMO) is shonky-as-hell flank engagements, probably as a result of deployment habits acquired from hundreds of hours of campaign. Still, I don't think I've ever had as much fun losing in a PvP game before! I think I acquitted myself reasonably well for someone who's never played MP and I'm looking forward to playing more games!
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Nov 19, 2016 21:42
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fnordcircle posted:Yeah, you could have human dudes with like, halberds or peasants with crossbows facing down half-man/half-beast people or maybe giant towering colossals with one eye who hurl stones!
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Nov 19, 2016 23:32
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Mans posted:people used to complain that total war games were just dudes with spears vs dudes with swords vs cavalry mans, now we'll be complaining that giants and minotaurs are too passé. Total War: Sacrifice. Make it happen CA, wrest it from the corpse of Interplay.
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Nov 19, 2016 23:44
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Mythology total war would be cool since you could combine the Fantasy stuff with Historical flavor in a way that's impossible with Warhammer. Even the Empire, the most vanilla of factions, is still high fantasy as hell.
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Nov 20, 2016 00:53
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Splatoon: Total War.
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Hmm, is this the first unit with precursor projectiles in total warhams?
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I was saying in another thread, if Creative Assembly manages to pull off archer units that can fire and move at the same time like wood elves, they could definitely take a stab at the more mobile warfare of late 19th century, early 20th WW1 combat.
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Nov 20, 2016 02:55
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Hammerstein posted:Some D&D Forgotten Realms setting would work too - but on the battle map it would not look that different from what we already have with Warhammer. Dominions.
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Nov 20, 2016 05:09
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sullat posted:Dominions. Dominions / Conquest of Elysium is even more of an insane grab bag of history, fantasy, and mythology than Warhammer. It would be perfect!
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Nov 20, 2016 08:28
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Arcsquad12 posted:I was saying in another thread, if Creative Assembly manages to pull off archer units that can fire and move at the same time like wood elves, they could definitely take a stab at the more mobile warfare of late 19th century, early 20th WW1 combat. I agree in that they could in the eras between the US Civil War and WW1, mostly since I just watched Zulu again recently.
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Arcsquad12 posted:I was saying in another thread, if Creative Assembly manages to pull off archer units that can fire and move at the same time like wood elves, they could definitely take a stab at the more mobile warfare of late 19th century, early 20th WW1 combat. They always had those types of units... they just rode horses usually.
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