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hiddenriverninja
May 10, 2013

life is locomotion
keep moving
trust that you'll find your way

twistedmentat posted:

Karen hasn't become a junky and doing porn at least.

I hope season 3 gets Typhoid Mary.

Is Matt Murdock going to bone her or Daredevil?

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twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

hiddenriverninja posted:

Is Matt Murdock going to bone her or Daredevil?

Karen or Mary?

Wait, the answer is probably for both.

Electra get sall the glory, but the first time I ever read Daredevil, it was in the middle of her arc, and that always stuck with me.

Wolpertinger
Feb 16, 2011
Over time I've sort of grown to care less and less about the Marvel movies and get more and more into the TV shows so it'll be really sad if SHIELD ends and the whole little universe it has is promptly forgotten and retconned.

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Yeah, every superhero movie feels like more of the same and has been forever. At least AoS maintains the illusion of something different for me.

Spergatory
Oct 28, 2012

Wolpertinger posted:

Over time I've sort of grown to care less and less about the Marvel movies and get more and more into the TV shows so it'll be really sad if SHIELD ends and the whole little universe it has is promptly forgotten and retconned.

I'm pretty sure that at least Fitzsimmons have been absorbed by the Marvel Hivemind and will live on in other forms after AoS has gone.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Is there something indicating the end of Shield?

But yeah, if the show ended I wouldn't assume the end for the characters. Daisy would be a natural addition to an Inhumans show or some other kind of powered story, Caulson was a movie character before tv, and May and FitzSimmons are established enough to pop up whenever they want to do Shield.

Spergatory
Oct 28, 2012
Daisy was already in the comics before AoS though. Same with Coulson (though he was invented by the movies). Really, AoS's most significant original character contributions are May, Fitzsimmons, and Ward.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

I'm a girl, and you're
gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.

STAC Goat posted:

Is there something indicating the end of Shield?

Some doomsayer said that Shield definitely wouldn't be renewed after this season. There's no real proof one way or the other, but the ratings aren't great, so :shrug:

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

STAC Goat posted:

Is there something indicating the end of Shield?
It's an expensive (I'm assuming) show that's never had blockbuster ratings and now that there's enough episodes for syndication, ABC can make money off of it without having to spend money on more episodes. My wild rear end guess right now is that they'll let it run another season and get to 100 episodes since it's doing better than what they had in that time slot last year, but it's definitely a show closer to the end than the beginning

hope and vaseline
Feb 13, 2001

The magic number for syndication's also dropped from 100 to 88 episodes in the last few years, typically end of season 4 on a 22 episode a year series.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
Lipstick Apathy
People have been saying this show will be cancelled since the first season. Some people just think like shareholders, I guess.

double nine
Aug 8, 2013

At this point I wouldn't mind the show stopping (provided all the major plot threads get resolved etc.) It's been a good ride with fun characters but I do feel like it's getting into a rut.

Oasx
Oct 11, 2006

Freshly Squeezed
We may have a lot of superhero shows on tv, but Shield is the only one with a serious budget and writers that aren't morons. I hope it sticks around for a few more years

DoctorWhat
Nov 18, 2011

A little privacy, please?
Supergirl is really really strong right now and Legends is a very well-made show about very, very stupid people.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
My current money is on SHIELD getting renewed, but only for a final, thirteen episode season. The syndication threshold is now at 88 episodes, but I think channels still get a lot more for hitting 100, which the thirteen episodes would bring the show to.

Plus, the Inhumans show that's airing next year is only going to be eight episodes long, but it's airing in September. Which puts SHIELD at midseason, with its ending tying into Infinity War. Makes a lot of sense to me. Plus, even though the show's not doing great in live numbers, its still got strong international pull, and they're not going to completely alienate an audience that ABC wants to cultivate by taking away all the central shows so suddenly and without fanfare -- look how pissed people were about Carter.

FInally, ABC really sucks in ratings this year, and has banked on a _lot_ of stinkers, including pretty much every single new show bar Designated Survivor. If they're going to get rid of all, or most, of them, they're not going to get rid of so many channel stalwarts in one fell swoop as well. Which is why I'm predicting a shortened final season, as a stop gap measure.

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

DoctorWhat posted:

Supergirl is really really strong right now

:haw:

DoctorWhat posted:

and Legends is a very well-made show about very, very stupid people.

It really is. I still maintain their overall incompetence is part of their charm, and at least they're all aware of it. :allears:

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
TV seems able to support 5 DC shows, it can support 2 Marvel shows.

Maybe because of the shift behind the scenes, the Inhuman show won't be as hamstrung as AoS when it comes to the relationship with the movies.

Proposition Joe
Oct 8, 2010

He was a good man
There's going to be 4 Marvel shows, so they're closing the gap! Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., The Inhumans, Cloak and Dagger, and Fox will have Legion on FX.

I don't know if Cloak and Dagger will be connected to the MCU.

bloodychill
May 8, 2004

And if the world
should end tonight,
I had a crazy, classic life
Exciting Lemon

twistedmentat posted:

TV seems able to support 5 DC shows, it can support 2 Marvel shows.

Maybe because of the shift behind the scenes, the Inhuman show won't be as hamstrung as AoS when it comes to the relationship with the movies.

Between the no-name talent and budget production, I'd guess DC's shows are much cheaper to produce than AoS with maybe only Supergirl coming close in terms of budget.

Edmund Lava
Sep 8, 2004

Hey, I'm from Brooklyn. I'm going to call myself Mr. Friendly.

If you're including Cloak and Dagger, might as well throw in Runaways and Damage Inc. I wouldn't be surprised if none of those shows happen.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

twistedmentat posted:

TV seems able to support 5 DC shows, it can support 2 Marvel shows.

Maybe because of the shift behind the scenes, the Inhuman show won't be as hamstrung as AoS when it comes to the relationship with the movies.

The behind the scenes shift is what's leading the TV shows to be completely divorced from the movies not back towards them.

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

Spergatory posted:

Daisy was already in the comics before AoS though. Same with Coulson (though he was invented by the movies). Really, AoS's most significant original character contributions are May, Fitzsimmons, and Ward.

And all three are now in comics.

Oasx
Oct 11, 2006

Freshly Squeezed

bloodychill posted:

I'd guess DC's shows are much cheaper to produce than AoS with maybe only Supergirl coming close in terms of budget.

It might have changed since then, but the few episodes of Supergirl I watched in season 1 looked really cheap, so I would actually think it was the show with the smallest budget.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

I'm a girl, and you're
gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.
Marvel seems to have a terrible record actually following through on TV shows they announce, so I'm not holding my breath on any of this.

Pan Dulce
Jan 4, 2011

Beautiful cinnamon roll too good for this world, too pure



The Runaways is going to be on Hulu and will be produced by the creators of the O.C. and Gossip Girl. It will run forever off those post-Pretty Little Liars "attractive people doing pretty things" vibe.

Soonmot
Dec 19, 2002

Entrapta fucking loves robots




Grimey Drawer

Pan Dulce posted:

The Runaways is going to be on Hulu and will be produced by the creators of the O.C. and Gossip Girl. It will run forever off those post-Pretty Little Liars "attractive people doing pretty things" vibe.

Every single thing I hear about this series makes it seem the opposite of what I wanted.

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

Oasx posted:

It might have changed since then, but the few episodes of Supergirl I watched in season 1 looked really cheap, so I would actually think it was the show with the smallest budget.

It's hit or miss on the CGI, sometimes you get something completely awesome like the Kara/Vastra midair fight, sometimes you get that Red Tornado suit.

Things seem to have evened out a lot since the move to CW since (I assume) they have to be more careful where they spend the budget. Well, that, and they've had a season to figure out what works (martian morph effects) and what doesn't (Red Tornado).

Arrgytehpirate
Oct 2, 2011

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!



loving hell there is no AOS again tonight. I feel like they're trying to kill this show so hard

bloodychill
May 8, 2004

And if the world
should end tonight,
I had a crazy, classic life
Exciting Lemon
I thought everyone knew no new AoS until the 29th?

Arrgytehpirate
Oct 2, 2011

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!



I did but for whatever reason I thought it was coming back tonight and now I'm sad. Seriously, it feels like this show has a huge gap every season and it's really stupid.

bloodychill
May 8, 2004

And if the world
should end tonight,
I had a crazy, classic life
Exciting Lemon
It is really stupid. The show was really building up in the last couple episodes too.

Kheldarn
Feb 17, 2011



This time, it's 100% ABCs fault that there's an additional 2 week delay.

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

Arrgytehpirate posted:

I did but for whatever reason I thought it was coming back tonight and now I'm sad. Seriously, it feels like this show has a huge gap every season and it's really stupid.

"This week on AoS: Robbie forgets to cook the turkey, but Ghost Rider comes to the rescue in an unexpected way. Meanwhile, Daisy continues her search for cranberry sauce, and Johnny Blaze pays an unexpected visit to the table."

Chortles
Dec 29, 2008

Fuckin Trump Riot posted:

"This week on AoS: Robbie forgets to cook the turkey, but Ghost Rider comes to the rescue in an unexpected way. Meanwhile, Daisy continues her search for cranberry sauce, and Johnny Blaze pays an unexpected visit to the table."
I'd have sat through a whole episode of this if it got us an episode tonight.
:negative:

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

Chortles posted:

I'd have sat through a whole episode of this if it got us an episode tonight.
:negative:

gently caress I'd sit through that as tonight's episode

Xealot
Nov 25, 2002

Showdown in the Galaxy Era.

Fuckin Trump Riot posted:

gently caress I'd sit through that as tonight's episode

Then you'll thoroughly enjoy the Agents of SHIELD Holiday Special, "Daisy's Inhuman Christmas."

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

AoS Thanksgiving: Fitz can't manage to open the jar. Coulson lends a hand.

Doggles
Apr 22, 2007

Agents of SHIELD s4e06 - The Hand Turkey

Coulson's hand gets stuck in one of the turkeys he was stuffing for SHIELD's Thanksgiving corporate event. After going to find help fishing it out, he can't remember which turkey it's in.

Hijinks ensue.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

AoS Thanksgiving: Simmons needs to get out early to pick up some pre-black Friday deals, Agent May has a plan to beat the crowds back.

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Zebulon
Aug 20, 2005

Oh god why does it burn?!

Doctor Butts posted:

AoS Thanksgiving: Simmons needs to get out early to pick up some pre-black Friday deals, Agent May has a plan to beat the crowds back.

I can't think of anyone worth knowing who wouldn't watch an episode of May and Simmons beating the poo poo out of an out of control Black Friday crowd.

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