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Jimmy Little Balls posted:From my understanding majoring in English here basically means you couldn't get into any other courses so you get dumped into English, these are the people who then become English teachers. Those who can, do. Those who cannot...
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Grand Fromage posted:How comfortable/isolated your country is certainly seems to have an effect. My experience in China is people very rarely speak English, but if they do they're good at it. In Korea a lot of people speak a tiny amount but it's rare to meet anyone who actually knows the language well enough to communicate. Japan is the most comfortably prosperous country in Asia and also has by far the lowest level of English I've encountered. But then you go somewhere like Cambodia and the English level is quite high. There you're motivated, speaking English can open a lot of opportunities. Khorne fucked around with this message at 09:20 on Nov 20, 2016 |
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English education in most of E. Asia is a joke and Im so glad to be out of that poo poo industry.
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Khorne posted:You'd be surprised at how many people can hold an okay conversation in English or at least understand and say enough words to communicate in Japan but refuse to speak a word of it because they know their english isn't very good. It's some weird cultural thing. I'm sure it depends where you are, too. I agree overall though. Yeah alcohol definitely reveals a lot more English, but if you're not willing to speak then there's no practical difference between that and not knowing the language, IMO.
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Outrail posted:Those who can, do. Those who cannot... Make a boat load of money hiring white people to sing and dance! A lot of people seem to think English speaking ability is the key to the kingdom, but there are a lot of two-bit scammers in big cities in China who speak really good English, so...
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Grand Fromage posted:Yeah alcohol definitely reveals a lot more English, but if you're not willing to speak then there's no practical difference between that and not knowing the language, IMO. So you should get the students drunk before English class?
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Koramei posted:*e: I wonder how true this is for other languages with a big internet presence actually, I think I've heard it about French too. Basically the argument is that one of the reasons Korea has utterly abysmal productivity is that, where English speakers can just google whatever the hell instructions for doing something and there'll be several pages of often pretty decent answers, the equivalent for Korea is a couple of lovely Naver posts that could as well be flat out wrong, if they exist at all. Korean productivity is 100% the fault of the environment in Korean businesses. I imagine their factories are pretty efficient, but whenever there is admin work they fall behind big time compared to western workers. An example was when I was working at the Korean provincial high school and the head Korean teacher was flabbergasted that I had completed the entire semester's work (lessons, handouts, exam, assignments) before the midpoint of the semester. I would create templates and re-use them with different lessons and materials, having most things fall into a simple form-factor instead of doing it the korean way where every day needed to be stated from scratch, which included creating a band new template despite the lesson being 99% similar to a previous one. They would also try and jam 5 different things into a lesson instead of doing one or two things for a longer time then when they are finished, moving on. It's sort of like every class was an episode of Game of Thrones where 20 things were happening every day, but they would continue for the whole year. So a student would do 5 minutes of one activity every class for the whole year instead of getting that activity out of the way in a week, then moving on. Also a good 25% of all prep work in Korean offices involve obviously zoning out/sleeping at one's desk, which would never fly in the west. Another problem is that people lower on the totem pole have to do the work of their bosses, and their bosses' bosses. So the people at the bottom are doing the work of everyone above them, and it ends up taking much longer and being done rushed/half-assed. The environment is 100% to blame, and not the abilities of the people doing it. I can see how English resources would really help when it comes to programming, but for most jobs it isn't much of a factor.
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basic hitler posted:I think people can generally recognize a functional need to interact with, even while holding petty disdain for, the outside world. Where did you grow up?
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Blistex posted:Korean productivity is 100% the fault of the environment in Korean businesses. I imagine their factories are pretty efficient, but whenever there is admin work they fall behind big time compared to western workers. An example was when I was working at the Korean provincial high school and the head Korean teacher was flabbergasted that I had completed the entire semester's work (lessons, handouts, exam, assignments) before the midpoint of the semester. I would create templates and re-use them with different lessons and materials, having most things fall into a simple form-factor instead of doing it the korean way where every day needed to be stated from scratch, which included creating a band new template despite the lesson being 99% similar to a previous one. They would also try and jam 5 different things into a lesson instead of doing one or two things for a longer time then when they are finished, moving on. It's sort of like every class was an episode of Game of Thrones where 20 things were happening every day, but they would continue for the whole year. So a student would do 5 minutes of one activity every class for the whole year instead of getting that activity out of the way in a week, then moving on. Also everyone is hungover and operating on about 3 hours of sleep.
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I wonder what Rene Chang has to say about Trump's victory.
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Atlas Hugged posted:Also everyone is hungover and operating on about 3 hours of sleep. also being forced to go out late with the boss after work to bang prostitutes.
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Ah, this is how it works.
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Jimmy Little Balls posted:From my understanding majoring in English here basically means you couldn't get into any other courses so you get dumped into English, these are the people who then become English teachers. So it's better than in the West where being an English major means you're technically capable of doing any other course, you just don't want to do that much work.
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Jeoh posted:So you should get the students drunk before English class? Forcing someone to have two or three beers at a bar and speak whatever language they want to learn with a native speaker can teach you a lot.
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Pirate Radar posted:So it's better than in the West where being an English major means you're technically capable of doing any other course, you just don't want to do that much work. Pirate Radar, why you so cold? Engineering Major 
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Haier posted:Ah, this is how it works.
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Hedenius posted:Not sure what you think is so strange about this. People in the south are generally shorter than in the north. Should be other way round due to increase in centrifugal force.
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Hedenius posted:Not sure what you think is so strange about this. People in the south are generally shorter than in the north. Yeah, it's really obvious if you've been to both the north and south. Northern girls are averaging around 5'5", while southern girls are around 5'1". It doesn't seem like much, but it is noticeable. A lot of people ask if my wife is some sort of super-tall anomaly (5'7") but back home in Jilin province she is just a little above average, and this really astounds people who just assume everyone in Asia is a pygmy. The best was seeing short US/UK/Can/Au people arriving in Korea and expecting to finally be "tall" or at least average, then being completely dwarfed by all the 6' guys and 5'5" girls in 3" heels.
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How tall do you have to be to be considered "Tall" in the different parts of asia? Where I am in the US, being "tall" starts at 6'2".
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Near Boston, I'd say 6'. Near Seattle, I'd say 6'2". People are taller out here!
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UltraRed posted:How tall do you have to be to be considered "Tall" in the different parts of asia? Where I am in the US, being "tall" starts at 6'2".    also found this fatchart 
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Anecdotally if you can say "180" or more as a guy they seem impressed by that. That's 5' 11".
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I used to teach post grad classes, when I first started I had a student who was under 5 foot and had a babyface. I figured since they were post grads and a bit older someone had brung their kid to school so I asked her where her parents where, she looked confused and said she was 23.
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heh heh looks like little japan isn't so little
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Sheep-Goats posted:Anecdotally if you can say "180" or more as a guy they seem impressed by that. Khorne fucked around with this message at 03:22 on Nov 21, 2016 |
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I think it's gennerational depending on location. Yes, everywhere gets taller over time, but I used to be on the tall side of average, across a couple of decades of age range, but whatever they started feeding kids ten years after me caused them all to sprout up like dandelions (probably a move away from lovely frozen food towards fresh food and veg. Diet fads were around since the 70s sure, but actual healthy eating only really happened as a social phenomenon when I was early teens. But lovely frozen and tinned food was a British staple that didn't change much 1980-2010)
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Visiting Kyoto makes me feel tiny because there are so many Dutch, Swedish and Russian tourists.
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I had beef and broccoli for dinner
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Hedenius posted:Not sure what you think is so strange about this. People in the south are generally shorter than in the north.
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free trip to get a black lung sounds like a blast
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Haier posted:The farthest north I have gone in this country is Shanghai and I plan on keeping it that way forever. My boss has said like 50 times she will take me to Beijing if I want to go next time she goes and I'm like "Nooooooooooope." You're missing so many sights in Northern China like. . .
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Accretionist posted:Near Boston, I'd say 6'. Near Seattle, I'd say 6'2". People are taller out here! lmao stfu
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chyna
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shoophobo posted:chyna https://youtu.be/RDrfE9I8_hs
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For the past half year, China's butthurt over Korea deploying anti-missile missiles led to them unofficially banning any Korean show, or shows with Koreans in them, unless it was already running. Now they've apparently stepped up their game and have even banned commercials featuring Koreans in them. Now if you're in a show already, you're technically allowed to stay. But don't expect airtime. You'll either be edited out or, if they can't get rid of you that way, will blur out your face like an accused criminal. Psy was edited out of Heroes of Remix in hilariously poor fashion.  In lighter news, China websites block searches for 'Fatty Kim the Third' quote:"What I want to stress is that China has always dedicated itself to constructing a rational, cultured and healthy environment for public opinion," Geng told a daily news briefing.
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Sheep-Goats posted:
I was reading a chart about each country's main caloric intake. Every country in the world had rice, wheat, or corn. Parts of Africa and Latin America had yams, plantains, sweet potatoes. Except Venezuela. They had sugar.
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Blistex posted:You're missing so many sights in Northern China like. . . I love making GBS threads on China as much as anyone in this thread (probably even more so), but truth be told, the Great Wall is one of the greatest, most impressive things I've seen.
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GoutPatrol posted:I was reading a chart about each country's main caloric intake. Every country in the world had rice, wheat, or corn. Parts of Africa and Latin America had yams, plantains, sweet potatoes. Except Venezuela. They had sugar. Huh? You mean foreigners eat rice? (A surprised college sophomore in Taiwan asked me once).
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GoutPatrol posted:I was reading a chart about each country's main caloric intake. Every country in the world had rice, wheat, or corn. Parts of Africa and Latin America had yams, plantains, sweet potatoes. Except Venezuela. They had sugar. As a country, Venezuela is kinda hosed. They have rolling blackouts and yet their principal export is oil/gas. Basically it's an example of why you don't let one person be in charge of everything. Or, eat the rich.
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Gorilla Salad posted:For the past half year, China's butthurt over Korea deploying anti-missile missiles led to them unofficially banning any Korean show, or shows with Koreans in them, unless it was already running. Good loving riddance.
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