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My buddy was thinking "how could just cauterizing someone's neck save them from that if they weren't a host?" but I think at some point you've just got to be like ehhh it's a TV show. Also, if there was a butchers=hosts reveal, it wouldn't go down like that.
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Ashrik posted:My buddy was thinking "how could just cauterizing someone's neck save them from that if they weren't a host?" but I think at some point you've just got to be like ehhh it's a TV show.
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ozmunkeh posted:gently caress off with this bullshit and give me more Anthony Hopkins.
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Codependent Poster posted:I'm glad Stubbs noticed Bernard was acting all weird. He seems like the least dickish person in the company right now. Stubbs is the most competent person on the show. He always treats the hosts with respect due to them (being biological murder robots held back only by apparently contradictory programming), gets along with all his co-workers to a greater or lesser extent (Elsie and him have professional disagreements at most), understands basic human behavior (trying to reach out to Bernard), does his job well (keeping tabs on Bernard and Theresa) and has yet to deliberately give the hosts sentience/crazy voices. Nothing bad that happens is his fault and he's probably going to get murdered by Maeve.
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Nov 21, 2016 18:02
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KoRMaK posted:Yea, that was...
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Paulocaust posted:just wanna say to everyone that poo poo talked me for being the first one on the MIB=William, 2 timelines and Bernarnold/Bernandroid theories;  MIB isn't William. No salad tossing tonight friendo.
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Nov 21, 2016 18:03
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no one's sucking your rear end Paulo, sorry
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Ashrik posted:My buddy was thinking "how could just cauterizing someone's neck save them from that if they weren't a host?" but I think at some point you've just got to be like ehhh it's a TV show. Also, if there was a butchers=hosts reveal, it wouldn't go down like that. This part was cut for pacing reasons, script excerpt below confirmed in Nolan interview. quote:MAEVE
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Ashrik posted:My buddy was thinking "how could just cauterizing someone's neck save them from that if they weren't a host?" but I think at some point you've just got to be like ehhh it's a TV show. Also, if there was a butchers=hosts reveal, it wouldn't go down like that. she cut his throat. when your throat is slashed open you die of blood loss. Felix used the magic skin sealer to close up the wound so he didn't lose any more blood. end of story. (that prop, by the way, is a handheld dental UV lamp used to cure epoxy fillings)
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Sagebrush posted:she cut his throat. when your throat is slashed open you die of blood loss. Felix used the magic skin sealer to close up the wound so he didn't lose any more blood. end of story. Actually it's advanced medical tech that Ford and Bernard discussed earlier, they have all be conquered death. It's no big whoop.
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Abner Assington posted:I always ask for and verify a person's post history in real life before I feel I can judge them accurately. also there are definitely people in the world who believe that if you play grand theft auto you are a psychotic killer at heart
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Nov 21, 2016 18:19
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What are the odds that Sizemore will be a lazy bastard and reuse Abernathy's old build?
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GoneWithTheTornado posted:Wasn't the whole season filmed before airing the first episode? I don't see how the creators could react to fan theories like that. Westworld is filmed live in front of a studio audience. Democratic Pirate posted:I mean poo poo build a security host team who never get tired and has the capacity to monitor for irregularities 24/7. Hemsworth knew that Bernard was doing Theresa but misses poo poo like this. The whole plotline was interesting to start but is now pretty terrible with things just happening because the plot demands it.
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KoRMaK posted:Yea, that was... As long as you don't hit your family, it's not abuse? He said that she told him he had a really bad temper and was always hot and cold and they could never figure out if he was about to get angry or not. That's not just running over hookers in GTA.
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Nov 21, 2016 18:23
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Collateral posted:What are the odds that Sizemore will be a lazy bastard and reuse Abernathy's old build? Probable that something accesses it but Abernarthy was lobotomized. It's more likely that Dolores runs into him. Also lol at all these board representatives loving around with the software. They have no loving idea.
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They'd only be afraid of him getting angry if he actually had gotten angry before. It seems he must have done something to scare them. That speech felt very very long though, especially after the little quip about "show don't tell."
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God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title
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Guys guys guys I have definitive new evidence in the two timelines theory. Get this, the MIB is a guest and has been going to the park for the 30 years. Over the years he's probably seen a ton of those greeter hosts. Later, ford takes half the hosts and puts them in the Wyatt storyline, when MIB recognizes her. Shocker, I know. Also, Felix and Sylvester finally wore out their welcome this episode. Some of the discussion here has helped - I really wish the story had been "Felix and Sylvester realize they have a host that's attained real consciousness and are debating what to do with it, while Maeve thinks she's manipulating them to keep her from being wiped". The whole incompetence thing doesn't really work for me. Lechtansi fucked around with this message at 01:28 on Nov 22, 2016 |
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Invicta{HOG}, M.D. posted:I like the idea brought up already that Felix is a host and now sees Maeve as human and can't kill her. Obviously having him be a human with the same feelings wouldn't be much different but I think it would sit better with people. It would also jive with Silvestre's embryo quip which brings up Brave New World with all the Ford trappings that has. How the hell can he see Maeve as human when he's literally messing around in her robo-brain?
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Ashrik posted:My buddy was thinking "how could just cauterizing someone's neck save them from that if they weren't a host?" but I think at some point you've just got to be like ehhh it's a TV show. Also, if there was a butchers=hosts reveal, it wouldn't go down like that. send this link to your buddy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clint_Malarchuk
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Ashrik posted:My buddy was thinking "how could just cauterizing someone's neck save them from that if they weren't a host?" but I think at some point you've just got to be like ehhh it's a TV show. Also, if there was a butchers=hosts reveal, it wouldn't go down like that. What would happen if you used one oh those guns on a dead person?
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ymgve posted:How the hell can he see Maeve as human when he's literally messing around in her robo-brain? She repeatedly woke up while on the operating table and had conversations with him unlike the only other robots he's met which all are just slabs of meat.
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Demiurge4 posted:Probable that something accesses it but Abernarthy was lobotomized. It's more likely that Dolores runs into him. I have a feeling his memory was wiped but the software is still intact. So then they are going to dump 35 years of host data into him. Thanks to the reverie update he'll access all of that. poo poo is about to get real.
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Lechtansi posted:Also, Felix and Sylvester finally wore out their welcome this episode. Some of the discussion here has helped - I really wish the story had been "Felix and Sylvester realize they have a host that's attained real consciousness and are debating what to do with it, while Maeve thinks she's manipulating them to keep her from being wiped". The whole incompetence thing doesn't really work for me.
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ArmZ posted:send this link to your buddy From the Wiki. quote:(He jokingly asked paramedics if they could bring him back in time for the third period [1]).  Goalies.
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Collateral posted:What are the odds that Sizemore will be a lazy bastard and reuse Abernathy's old build? You're right and that is going to be awesome. So glad to have Abernathy back.
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The greeter host being part of the wyatt quest and being recognized by MiB is likely not significant only due to the fact she greets William and gets reassigned but also due to the fact that we see her participating in the past flashbacks as one of hosts getting trained in the now destroyed church town.
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I hope Abernathy remembers. Either way, he's a phenomenally good actor so I'm pumped that he's back in the narrative.
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Hemsworth knew that Bernard was doing Theresa but misses poo poo like this. The whole plotline was interesting to start but is now pretty terrible with things just happening because the plot demands it. I'm pretty sure that, as a general rule, Hosts aren't used for support staff. Bernard seems to be the very big exception, along with anyone else that Ford and killed-and-replaced like Elsie. But yes there seems to be a very large sphere of idiocy surrounded Maeve.
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emanresu tnuocca posted:The greeter host being part of the wyatt quest and being recognized by MiB is likely not significant only due to the fact she greets William and gets reassigned but also due to the fact that we see her participating in the past flashbacks as one of hosts getting trained in the now destroyed church town. Basically a lot comes down to what Herrings are Red. The greeter bot was in Dolores' flashback. That means that she's a very old Host. So if William's stuff did happen 30 years ago, she could have been the Orientation host at the time. We are also repeatedly shown that Hosts can be retasked essentially on a dime. So, MiB=William and he remembers her from his introduction to the park. Or everything happens at once and the Host was retasked, but the MiB remembers her just because he's in the park all the time. Both can be seen as valid and depends on where the show is loving with the viewers.
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Abernathy is going to assume the role of Wyatt, calling it now. He's a former cannibal leader and he's promised 'such revenge upon you they shall be the terror of the earth'. Wyatt will be in that data dump somewhere and attempt to destroy the park and bring about something new.
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JossiRossi posted:Basically a lot comes down to what Herrings are Red. The greeter bot was in Dolores' flashback. That means that she's a very old Host. So if William's stuff did happen 30 years ago, she could have been the Orientation host at the time. Yeah, it's very clear that the show is intentionally misleading the audience. Unclear which theory is true. And look what they've done to us.
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Curious, but what is the explanation for people's theory present Dolores is retracing steps on her own in the present? I don't want to debate two timelines (I'm still against, though more on the fence, and fully against William=MiB for too many reasons than I want to list using my phone) here, just wondering what explanation people think there could possibly be for that. If Hemsworth noticing her far from Sweetwater alone was misdirection and she wasn't alone in the past, but was in the present, then present-Dolores has been picked up and taken back to the ranch episodes ago due to not being with a guest.
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was the dying soldier that mcpoyle cradled in his arms the other mcpoyle? why would they do that.
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FuhrerHat posted:was the dying soldier that mcpoyle cradled in his arms the other mcpoyle? It was not, though now I wish it had been.
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Invicta{HOG}, M.D. posted:She repeatedly woke up while on the operating table and had conversations with him unlike the only other robots he's met which all are just slabs of meat. Animals have a natural instinct to emphasize with other things they might interpret as living (like the bird). We personify everything these days, my question is why wouldn't one of the techs eventually go this far for a host? I wonder if the WW writers got the bird inspiration from a somewhat well known story in certain ethics/evolutionary biology circles: https://books.google.com/books?id=I...%20bird&f=false A bonobo found a stunned bird in her enclosure and took it up to the highest limb she could reach and flapped the birds wings and tried to get it to fly away. 
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:As long as you don't hit your family, it's not abuse? He said that she told him he had a really bad temper and was always hot and cold and they could never figure out if he was about to get angry or not. That's not just running over hookers in GTA. It sort of depends. If you're the kind of person who flies off the handle and yells, maybe even slams your fist down on the table every once in awhile, and when people finally confront you about it, you break down into tears and say that nobody loves you, then you have your entire family walking on eggshells their entire lives, and there is a reason people call that emotional abuse. The way the Man in Black describes it, it sounds more like there was something ineffable about him that just made him hard to live with, though. That he was mostly controlled and even kind, but there was always something sharp around the edges that made the people closest to him wary, which isn't really something he can help, especially if he didn't know it about himself until after his wife's suicide.
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KoRMaK posted:Yea, that was... And no one would ever do that...
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VendaGoat posted:And no one would ever do that... Just don't do IT for any major political figures...
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