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TyrantWD posted:They repeatedly vote against their economic interests because of racism and other social issues. I think a lot of them literally don't know that, because they've only been exposed to conservative media for decades and the Democratic party hasn't tried to make inroads in the places where they live, even in order to support local candidates who might be able to swing a few people just by being good at their jobs. Howard Dean was right about needing a 50 state strategy and we really really haven't bothered to do that, and clearly it's bitten us in the rear end.
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100 degrees Calcium posted:It'd be a real mistake for the federal government to go after weed in places where it has been legalized. It breaks the republican fallback of yeah but the states where weed is legalized are blue utopias so they don't give a gently caress. States rights are only worth fighting for when it's convenient for Republicans, you see
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People making arguments about what the Republicans will or won't do based on consistency with past arguments or logic are missing a fundamental point: there is only one consistent Republican policy, which is that Republicans should be in charge. There is also apparently only one consistent Democratic policy, which is that Republicans should be in charge.
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zegermans posted:She's pro Muslim genocide. TyrantWD posted:Gabbard was going no where in the Democratic Party with her Islamophobia that even makes Bannon proud. Any articles expanding on this?
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Nov 21, 2016 20:03
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A big chunk of Trump supporters are salvageable. They're regular people who are just so disillusioned and desperate they took a chance on Trump. Many of these same people took a chance on Obama in 2008. The rest of his supporters are either GOP faithful or Nazis.
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Nov 21, 2016 20:03
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pathetic little tramp posted:Russia's spy agencies have revealed their latest secret weapon to fight America with, ordinary cameras! Russian spy agencies don't need to spy they can just ask Trump.
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I put together a thread for the North Carolina gubernatorial insanity: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3798865 It might never go anywhere, Pat may just concede normally, but if it doesn't, there's a place where we can watch the madness descend.
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Nov 21, 2016 20:04
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im the \mediately to forestall future lawsuits.
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Montasque posted:A big chunk of Trump supporters are salvageable. They're regular people who are just so disillusioned and desperate they took a chance on Trump. Many of these same people took a chance on Obama in 2008. Besides, it's not just Trump supporters we need to win over, it's the folks who took one look at both candidates and went 'lol no'.
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Turtle Man is gonna kill the filibuster on day one and the GOP-controlled government is gonna dump Chunky-Style Untreated Homestyle Sewage down our throats for at the very least two years and probably 4 or 8 they're all circlejerking about the horrible poo poo they're going to pass already it will be a tidal wave of poo poo that covers the entire united states
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Montasque posted:A big chunk of Trump supporters are salvageable. They're regular people who are just so disillusioned and desperate they took a chance on Trump. Many of these same people took a chance on Obama in 2008. I got to sit down with the GOP faithful side of my family this weekend and oh my god i forgot how crazy/gullible they were. they truly think that because Trump has money that he's basically infallible.
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Digital Jedi posted:Any articles expanding on this? http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/curious-islamophobic-politics-dem-congressmember-tulsi-gabbard quote:She's particularly a favorite of right-wing media. Appearing with Fox's Neil Cavuto last week, she lashed out at the White House for holding an extremism summit with Muslim Americans, saying it's a “diversion from what our real focus needs to be. And that focus is on that Islamic extremist threat.” She criticized Obama for saying that “poverty, lack of access to jobs, lack of access to education” is contributing to radicalization. “They are not fueled by materialistic motivation, it's actually a theological, this radical Islamic ideology,” she said, throwing red meat to Fox viewers. She's a literal Hindu Nationalist who supports Modi and before she glommed onto Sanders her only press come from angrily insisting Obama's too pussy to bomb ISIS more, and then post-glomming it became he and Hillary love bombing the middle east too much because she knew most of America never heard of her before and it was cool to just casually switch sides.
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You know, I've maintained for a while that the Republican congress wouldn't kill the filibuster because they'll want to use it again someday, but is there anything stopping them from killing it for now and voting it back into place on November 5, 2018?
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Monkey Fracas posted:Turtle Man is gonna kill the filibuster on day one and the GOP-controlled government is gonna dump Chunky-Style Untreated Homestyle Sewage down our throats for at the very least two years and probably 4 or 8 Nah. They won't kill the filibuster. They need an out of the poo poo that would get them voted out in 2018 and 2020 because they can say "OH, WE VOTED FOR THIS BUT THOSE EVIL DEMOCRATS SAID NO".
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 wow they actually think their refugee plans are going to reduce terrorism. Half of this country thinks that muslims are inherently terrorists and we can't trust any of them. and they're so inherently terrorists that you can simply ask them about a couple of positions, and they will be compelled to tell you the truth. this is real. extreme vetting. oh and probably some more voter suppression stuff, but this time it is at the federal level yay!
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Montasque posted:A big chunk of Trump supporters are salvageable. They're regular people who are just so disillusioned and desperate they took a chance on Trump. Many of these same people took a chance on Obama in 2008. Even they probably would have been a moot point if Queen Hillary The Anointed could have turned out more voters than Romney did in 2012 so, so many things went wrong this election
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Serf posted:But a lot of my minority friends are not down with appealing to that segment of the population because they believe they will be betrayed. They will be but most people don't realize that betrayal is inevitable and they themselves will probably do the betraying at some point for a different marginalized group.
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It seems those drat bone spurs have been hobbling the Trumps for generations.quote:A historian has discovered a royal decree issued to Donald Trump’s grandfather ordering him to leave Germany and never come back. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/21/trump-grandfather-friedrich-banished-germany-historian-royal-decree
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docbeard posted:You know, I've maintained for a while that the Republican congress wouldn't kill the filibuster because they'll want to use it again someday, but is there anything stopping them from killing it for now and voting it back into place on November 5, 2018? the ones who don't like trump(ism) have no way to prevent truly hosed up legislation from passing (they could hide behind Ds filibustering while they are in support) that's my guess is there any analysis of which senate seats are vulnerable in 2018? is there really any likely chance the democrats could take it back (yeah, i know, midterm, etc.)
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iospace posted:Nah. They won't kill the filibuster. They need an out of the poo poo that would get them voted out in 2018 and 2020 because they can say "OH, WE VOTED FOR THIS BUT THOSE EVIL DEMOCRATS SAID NO". Hmmm which side of the GOP will come out in this term, Cowardly GOP or Evil GOP? Maybe Batshit-Insane-Believes-Their-Own-Propaganda GOP? And which side of the Democratic Party will come out? Spineless Corporate Ball-Fondler Dems or.... uh...
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I have a distant ancestor who absconded on the Kaiser's draft too around the same time so I can dig it. The whole country was a goddamn barracks.
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I'm the 200k criminal removal cases that are gonna get moved on without any sort of review for whether they're warranted. Here's your stool pigeons back Mexi-Cartels! Take good care of them!
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Wikkheiser posted:I have a distant ancestor who absconded on the Kaiser's draft too around the same time so I can dig it. yea as much as Trump is a chickenhawk bitch it's not like 'bailed on the Kaiser's insanity' was some rare and unheard of thing at the time.
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Karl Sharks posted:so about 2018 Yeah, it's guaranteed the republicans will win them all and usher in 1000 years of conservative darkness. We're talking the end of abortion, gay marriage, etc. Hell, if they don't repeal the 14th amendment and make lynching legal, I'd be surprised.
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Covok posted:Wow, this is a lot of classified government information that is not completely public. Imagine if an acting Sectary of State did this due to a hacking job. I wonder if there would be an outcry. maybe it's not classified
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mastershakeman posted:maybe it's not classified Maybe you're a oval office. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Wikkheiser posted:I have a distant ancestor who absconded on the Kaiser's draft too around the same time so I can dig it. I had always wondered why there was such a massive migration to the middle US from Germany in the late 19th century but this explains it pretty well
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mastershakeman posted:maybe it's not classified hard to tell because any (c)s that would be on the page could just be them switching to trump's formatting style instead of standing for classified
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Covok posted:Maybe you're a oval office. well that escalated bigly
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showbiz_liz posted:I think a lot of them literally don't know that, because they've only been exposed to conservative media for decades and the Democratic party hasn't tried to make inroads in the places where they live, even in order to support local candidates who might be able to swing a few people just by being good at their jobs. Howard Dean was right about needing a 50 state strategy and we really really haven't bothered to do that, and clearly it's bitten us in the rear end. This is what I think too Having some actual pro democratic media would help as well
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Seriously though Trump will just be a figurehead for whatever the GOP wants to do he obviously has no loving clue how things work and doesn't even want to stay in the White House over weekends like he thinks being president is some 9-5 regular job or something he will go down in history as the president who knew the least about how poo poo pertaining to the goddamn job works
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Monkey Fracas posted:Seriously though Trump will just be a figurehead for whatever the GOP wants to do Or maybe not . Let's not underestimate him again
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Fullhouse posted:I had always wondered why there was such a massive migration to the middle US from Germany in the late 19th century but this explains it pretty well more or less. During that time Wilhelm II was the head, and he was loving bonkers.
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Karl Sharks posted:so about 2018 yeah we are probably hosed in 2018 although the party in power generally does more poorly in midterms, so there's that; also who knows what the political climate will be like in two years
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Admiral Ray posted:I got to sit down with the GOP faithful side of my family this weekend and oh my god i forgot how crazy/gullible they were. they truly think that because Trump has money that he's basically infallible. This can't be overstated how much these people live in an information bubble and that almost nobody is even trying to pierce that bubble. My MIL is a hardcore trump voter but it only takes about twenty five minutes of conversation for her to agree that we live in a carceral state that is institutionally racist, that we need a policy of sweeping amnesty, and to increase the amount of refugees we're taking from the middle east. Of course if someone doesn't engage with her about it on a regular basis she falls back into "build the wall" chants.
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Monkey Fracas posted:Seriously though Trump will just be a figurehead for whatever the GOP wants to do But he's definitely going to go all swinging dick style when he catches wind of this and the NY Times or whoever writes up a big thing about how much of a puppet he is. I predict that will take place in less than a month after inauguration. He'll probably have someone explain executive orders to him and go hog wild on them. It's for sure going to happen, and the GOP might be smart enough to flatter him into some more of whatever they want (as long as it's AM radio/Breitbart flavored), but as soon as he's (accurately) seen as an idiot who's in over his head he's going to start making moves. Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Nov 21, 2016 |
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