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The QuadJumper looks like a real rear end in a top hat of a ship so I guess I'm going to love it.
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Nov 22, 2016 17:25
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Finster Dexter posted:jfc this doesn't make any sense "With this tractor beam token, you might be able to boost or barrel roll your enemy's ship so that it can't help but collide with an asteroid or another ship." Don't worry, there's other parts of the article where they make it clearer that they don't understand the tractor beam collision rules. In other news, seems like a fun support ship - does lots of neat things, can hand out tractor beams like a mother fucker, but I highly doubt an entire fleet of them will be a competitive list.
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Nov 22, 2016 17:28
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Wazzu posted:In other news, seems like a fun support ship - does lots of neat things, can hand out tractor beams like a mother fucker, but I highly doubt an entire fleet of them will be a competitive list. Which is a great design space, I feel.
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Smuggling Compartment will get you a Scavenger Crane on a YT-model ship, if that does any of them any good, which...I dunno, not really. Could make using the 1300's missile slot worthwhile, maybe. Han Solo (new) + Concussion Missiles + Smuggling Compartment + Scavenger Crane + Guidance Chips + Deadeye Just start erasing TIE Fighters on turn one. For a mere 53 points!
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ConfusedUs posted:Which is a great design space, I feel. Agreed, I like this a lot better than "Just buy four of them and make a list"
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Finster Dexter posted:Is that what's going on? I read the preceding paragraph three times and it still didn't make sense. Here's the key sentence: quote:[...]By blocking the ship in the first place, Unkar Plutt can deny it an action, and then when he assigns it a tractor beam token, he may be able to force it out of position to claim its retaliatory shot. So basically: -Unkar Plutt flies up to block -X-Wing crashes into him, doesn't get an action -At the end of the movement phase, Plutt uses his ability to assign a tractor beam token to the X-Wing, shifting it away (And presumably forcing it out of arc of whatever it wanted to shoot at) -Plutt can now shoot at the tractor'd X-Wing The paragraph is worded weirdly because the author tried to squeeze the use of the new Score to Settle card in there as well, but the gist of it is that Plutt can just block or slam into people like an rear end and then tractor them away to ruin their shots (Or set one up of his own). enigmahfc posted:The QuadJumper looks like a real rear end in a top hat of a ship so I guess I'm going to love it. Definitely. I think the great thing about it is that while it's not going to win any matches by itself, it's also not something your opponent can ignore-letting it get in close is just asking to have your day ruined by bombs or tractor beams. It's going to be a really fun ship to dick around with.
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And I really hope they double down on it not being fast. Like a straight 3 is the only 3 or more speed maneuver it can do. Maybe no turn around moves.
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Wazzu posted:"With this tractor beam token, you might be able to boost or barrel roll your enemy's ship so that it can't help but collide with an asteroid or another ship."
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Wazzu posted:And I really hope they double down on it not being fast. Like a straight 3 is the only 3 or more speed maneuver it can do. Maybe no turn around moves. The full dial is in the article:  Max speed of 3, but it can do a speed 2 Sloop.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Definitely. I think the great thing about it is that while it's not going to win any matches by itself, it's also not something your opponent can ignore-letting it get in close is just asking to have your day ruined by bombs or tractor beams. It's going to be a really fun ship to dick around with. Scum Biggs  Or, more like a Scum version of Captain Rex.
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stolen from Redditquote:Hmm... Ahsoka, VI, Sabine, Scavenger Crane, your choice of mine. Drop some Cluster Mines every round, average 3 damage if they all hit plus the free damage from Sabine, wait for chance to refresh. Never need to actually attack. The crane recovers the mines, and if you are forced to attack, the crane can recover it too!
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bunnyofdoom posted:stolen from Reddit Only if you manage to kill something every round.
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Aramoro posted:Only if you manage to kill something every round. Well, it's "any ship destroyed", so yours or theirs. It's a fun gimmick, but it's a gimmick. There are plenty of PS9+ in lists out there these days, and you run some risk of discarding the crane. I'm looking forward to a photo of someone trying the gimmick accompanying a Z swarm and showing that they've covered the board in 9 cluster mine deployments.
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I like the dial a lot. Between the sloops and the backwards moves, it seems like a fun ship to fly, and it has white 1-turns which is important to me.
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At 2/2/5/0 I'm concerned this thing is just going to cease existing the first turn of combat. Especially since none of the pilots or good upgrades included are defensive in nature.
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TIE Bombers are 2/2/6/0 and if you put any decent ordnance package on them they get evaporated the first turn of attacks. No shields hurts.
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I can't wait to parallel park my space tow truck
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Strobe posted:At 2/2/5/0 I'm concerned this thing is just going to cease existing the first turn of combat. Especially since none of the pilots or good upgrades included are defensive in nature. Yeah, cheap and cheerful is probably going to be the answer. It will probably force the enemy to split fire, which is A Good Thing. If it's an effective, obnoxious blocker, the ship that is touching and being blocked can't shoot at it, and is going to try to shoot at something more important. A ship that is not blocked has the choice of shooting at the blocker, or at the other ship. Pattern Analyzer and the Spacetug Tractor Array together means you can get really rude about blocking and tractor effects. The "A Score To Settle" EPT may actually be pretty great on old Chewbacca, because he doesn't care as much about the incoming crits.
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Scum 4 life, I love beating down on Rebel fan boys. I can't wait for this thing. Is there a release date?
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Previously it was said that Wave 10 would be released before Rogue One's theatrical release, but I don't remember if that was official or if they're still sticking to that.
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canyonero posted:Previously it was said that Wave 10 would be released before Rogue One's theatrical release, but I don't remember if that was official or if they're still sticking to that. It was in the original Wave 10 preview article. It's been looking a bit hairy the past couple of weeks but my hopes are Officially Up again. Just a little tetchy that they probably won't be issuing the Striker preview until the week before release which isn't a lot of time to decide how many I want. Quadjumper looks trolltastic. So many troll options. Trollolololol
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Unkar Plutt (17) Trandoshan Slaver (29) Zuckuss (1) 4-LOM (1) Dengar (3) Inertial Dampeners (1) Syndicate Thug (18) Twin Laser Turret (6) Syndicate Thug (18) Twin Laser Turret (6) Total: 100 View in Yet Another Squad Builder Using Unkar Plutt as a stand-in for the PS1 cheap one + Spacetug Tractor Array. I have a feeling that list would kill the crap out of most things if you can stick the tractor beam and get the other 3 ships able to fire on it. A similar philosophy to Paul's Shadowcaster + 2x Thugs Worlds list canyoneer fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Nov 22, 2016 |
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X + 2 TLT Y-Wings is really good right now. I'm having immense luck with Miranda + 2 TLTs
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Strobe posted:At 2/2/5/0 I'm concerned this thing is just going to cease existing the first turn of combat. Especially since none of the pilots or good upgrades included are defensive in nature. I think it's survivability is really sketchy. It looks fun but im not sure competitive due to the lack of shields.
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overdesigned posted:Han Solo (new) + Concussion Missiles + Smuggling Compartment + Scavenger Crane + Guidance Chips + Deadeye Deadeye is small ship only now.
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Ahsoka Tano (17) Veteran Instincts (1) Sabine's Masterpiece (1) Captured TIE (1) Scavenger Crane (2) Total: 22
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Chemmy posted:Ahsoka Tano (17) Missing Sabine and the bombs/mines
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I really like this ship because I get the distinct feeling that my list is going to eat it for breakfast like it's not even there and the game will effectively be 100 versus 80 points. Scum needs a medium cost ace that can survive to the lategame on a small base, not another kinda cheap support ship.
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I feel like this is a lot better than any of the other cheap support ships, though. I don't know if it will be competitive (probably not) but it will be a lot more interesting than stuff like the HWK, imo.
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Palob does a lot of work with a TLT and the giant debuff bubble though. I wish the tugboat was purposely made to be an ace-killer as well. 
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Chill la Chill posted:Palob does a lot of work with a TLT and the giant debuff bubble though. I wish the tugboat was purposely made to be an ace-killer as well. It kind of is an ace killer. If you get the block or the tractor beam token in place, that ace is in for a bad day. If you get both, well, adios!
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================== ... But is it Dumb? ================== 100 points Pilots ------ Black Sun Soldier (20) x 5 Z-95 Headhunter (13), Homing Missiles (5), Scavenger Crane (2), Guidance Chips (0) This could be pretty funny, albeit all at PS3. Fly in slow and unleash missles until things die, reload and try again?
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N'dru with Lone Wolf, Clusters, Chips and Crane is 25 points.
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AndyElusive posted:Deadeye is small ship only now. Oh yeah. Well, at PS9 he can just target lock as normal for a point less, really. Admiral Joeslop posted:N'dru with Lone Wolf, Clusters, Chips and Crane is 25 points. Annnnnd this seems like the best 25 scum points in the game to me now.
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overdesigned posted:Oh yeah. Well, at PS9 he can just target lock as normal for a point less, really. As he should, since he's basically Biggs with teeth. I'd be reaaaal tempted to throw mindlink on him instead of lone wolf.
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overdesigned posted:Annnnnd this seems like the best 25 scum points in the game to me now. Ahahaha no. You can drop more and more points and he still blows up fast.
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overdesigned posted:Oh yeah. Well, at PS9 he can just target lock as normal for a point less, really. N'Dru Suhlak (17) Lone Wolf (2) Cluster Missiles (4) Scavenger Crane (2) Guidance Chips (0) Fenn Rau (28) Push the Limit (3) Autothrusters (2) Concord Dawn Protector (1) Manaroo (27) Push the Limit (3) Recon Specialist (3) Unhinged Astromech (1) Feedback Array (2) Engine Upgrade (4) Total: 99
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Whisper w/Gunner really fucks over Dengar, as long as Whisper has initiative. Besides the obvious need for Whisper to always shoot first, as initiative winner, Whisper gets to Gunner in step 9 of the flow chart of doom and do 2nd attack before Dengar can trigger his attack and still gets all the Whisper shenanigans in step 8 of that 2nd attack so Dengar gets to return fire into the cloaked, token'd Whisper. Which I think is just fine in terms of balance or whatever. But I just finished a league game of Dengaroo vs. Whisper/Vessery/Bomber and due to Dengar whiffing on two attacks in the same round against Whisper (rolled 10 blanks including LW re-rolls), and due to 4 consecutive whiffs on R5-P8, it came down to Manaroo and Whisper. Whisper gunned her down... and R5 FINALLY came through with a hit. Time for Final salvo. His 9 dice against my 4. I rolled 4 blanks. This game is very fun, and is well-balanced (for the most part) but I just don't know if I can handle the variance anymore. So much random dice bullshit. I know that over the long haul it will all balance out, but when the dice decide to gently caress you over they gently caress you over HARD and you have to hope that maybe the dice will give you a reach around the next time, but jfc these dice are just too much sometimes. e: If I keep playing this game, I'm going to just fly nothing but swarms because the way final salvo works, I guess that's just what you are supposed to do. Finster Dexter fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Nov 23, 2016 |
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