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Neil Armbong posted:It may be misguided, but maybe he thinks there's something to sticking to his word of waiting until the end of the season to make a decision, aka fire Charlie. And by not breaking that word, in some sense standing up to other boosters. That's a good point. He made a mistake by committing to the end of season review.
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they should just get it over with but I don't see why beating TCU would obligate them to keep him
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Just give the process time; Tom Herman asked for the moon and by God the University of Texas will do it...it's just gonna take some time.
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MourningView posted:they should just get it over with but I don't see why beating TCU would obligate them to keep him Maybe they aren't so sure they can get Herman? I have no idea why they are being so cautious otherwise.
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DuckHuntDog posted:Maybe they aren't so sure they can get Herman? I have no idea why they are being so UH AD is vehement that money will not be a factor in losing Herman. I don't think they can match Texas in pocket depth, but maybe a booster is stepping up to try. Edit: clarity Neil Armbong fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Nov 22, 2016 |
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Yeah it sounds like UH is going to do their damndest to retain him.FB Scoops posted:If Tom Herman leaves Houston, it won’t be over money.
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Neil Armbong posted:UH AD is vehement that money will not be a factor in losing Herman. I don't think they can match Texas in pocket depth, but maybe a booster is stepping up to try. That'd be Tilman Fertitta. He's not (publicly) Phil Knight rich but he's got enough that I don't doubt the "not gonna lose him to money" claim if he really cares to. If nothing else he can force Texas to overpay and that's a moral victory I can live with.
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KIM JONG TRILL posted:Sounds like Baylor is heavily targeting Chad Morris. This is probably really smart from a scheme standpoint since Baylor's offensive personnel is arranged well for a smashmouth spread right now, since Morris is somewhere between Malzahn and Briles in how he designs his offense. Lots of 11 personnel with triple option elements, frequent bombs to keep the other guy honest. Would also be the second time in his life Morris has replaced Briles at a school. Lets Baylor keep the gravy train going with Texas high school coaches too which has been absolutely critical for them. On the other hand, gently caress baylor.
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lol, sorry dawgsquote:Georgia: Former Notre Dame defensive coordinator Brian VanGorder has joined Kirby Smart’s staff in a consulting role, according to DawgNation. VanGorder was let go at Notre Dame back in late September.
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"Consultant" just means extra recruiter so that seems fine. Same reason Saban has dudes like Mike Locksley stashed away on the payroll.
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LLCoolJD posted:The Texas AD has missed his window to fire Strong with righteous indignation. Now they're much more shackled to the result of Friday's game. Watch Texas beat a mediocre TCU and get stuck with another 7-5 type season next year. It's like a marriage that's on the rocks, but the wife promises not to file for divorce until their kid leaves for college in a few months' time. Those months are up and down, but overall it's not looking good. Then, a week before the kid moves into the dorms, the husband fucks up really, really bad. Wife's sister calls and tells her she needs to dump him pronto, and the wife says that's her plan when the time comes. The writing is on the wall, but the wife tells the husband they've got enough going on and the big discussion about their future can wait a few more days. Right now they should just focus on getting little Laykynn moved out and registered for classes. That's all this is. They're gonna get a divorce. He's not gonna do such a good job at moving the kid's stuff that she magically forgets about what happened a week before. You can only carry a beanbag chair so well. Thermos H Christ fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Nov 22, 2016 |
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Those extra coaches can't recruit off campus, I think they're more for coaching. As many mistakes as Strong made, I think the team is really young and talented and anyone is going to win a lot next year. And he did a lot of hard work needed to drag the program kicking and screaming into the modern era after Mack ran it like a country club. He's legitimately a great defensive coach as his track record indicates, although I think that might not be a great fit with Big XII offenses. Clearly some of the Louisville success though was luck into a star QB.
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Kim Jong Il posted:He's legitimately a great defensive coach as his track record indicates Actually he is poo poo as a defensive coach as Texas records show
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DJExile posted:lol, sorry dawgs So many people wanted him to be DC again in the late 2000s. Guess it just happened ten years later.
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my bat mitzvah ROCKED posted:Actually he is poo poo as a defensive coach as Texas records show Strong wouldn't be the first good defensive coordinator to do a poor job as a head coach. It's a very different job. I think he was flattered by a stellar QB and lesser competition at Louisville (I include the Muschamp-coached Gators in that pile). Going to Texas was the smart move. Despite poor performance, Strong has raked in an enormous pile of money, and will have no problem finding work after leaving Texas. I don't feel the least bit sorry for him.
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texas's top boosters are meeting right now to figure out the coaching situation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIxmrvbMeKc
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R.D. Mangles posted:texas's top boosters are meeting right now to figure out the coaching situation: I love this video so much 
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my bat mitzvah ROCKED posted:Actually he is poo poo as a defensive coach as Texas records show
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That ain't your goddamned job, fat boy
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R.D. Mangles posted:texas's top boosters are meeting right now to figure out the coaching situation: Tucker's my favorite. I'm pretty sure it's Don Knotts PrinceRandom fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Nov 23, 2016 |
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how loving cool is it that our football field is literally named after that actual guy irl
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Thermos H Christ posted:how loving cool is it that our football field is literally named after that actual guy irl That dude isn't Joe Jamail, it's whatever schmuck he is deposing. "MY NAME'S TUCKER AND I REPRESENT AIRSHIRE(?)" It's legit one of my dreams to meet Tucker in real life. I bet he owns and has a huge oil painting of Vince Young beating USC.
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Sab0921 posted:That dude isn't Joe Jamail, it's whatever schmuck he is deposing. Yea, joe is the guy calling the other lawyer boy and fat boy repeatedly
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I want to be clear that I don't think Strong should be retained. It's time for him to leave, and he's not a good fit with Texas, for whatever reason, which likely includes him not knowing how to coach this style of program and the onus of that is on him. I was more rolling my eyes at Scionix acting like Strong was never good and shouldn't be complimented whatsoever.
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big juicy nectarine posted:I want to be clear that I don't think Strong should be retained. It's time for him to leave, and he's not a good fit with Texas, for whatever reason, which likely includes him not knowing how to coach this style of program and the onus of that is on him. I was more rolling my eyes at Scionix acting like Strong was never good and shouldn't be complimented whatsoever. Texas has been one of the worst major programs in the country over Strong's tenure. They are 16-20 with a loss to Kansas and a shutout loss to Iowa State. There were numerous blow outs (Texas gave up 31 points in a quarter to TCU) and no signs of marked improvements. The same issues (not being able to play on the road, poor discipline, poor game management) have plagued Texas throughout Strong's tenure. He is a bad coach and I don't have an issue saying it. I think he caught fire in a bottle with Bridgewater at Louisville which is what led to his success as a head coach. Basically, Charlie Strong is Will Muschamp.
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big juicy nectarine posted:I want to be clear that I don't think Strong should be retained. It's time for him to leave, and he's not a good fit with Texas, for whatever reason, which likely includes him not knowing how to coach this style of program and the onus of that is on him. I was more rolling my eyes at Scionix acting like Strong was never good and shouldn't be complimented whatsoever. weird it's almost like he was never approaching good at his tenure at texas including such monumentous failures as losing to loving kansas and retaining shawn watson for two goddamn years Sab0921 posted:Texas has been one of the worst major programs in the country over Strong's tenure. They are 16-20 with a loss to Kansas and a shutout loss to Iowa State. There were numerous blow outs (Texas gave up 31 points in a quarter to TCU) and no signs of marked improvements. The same issues (not being able to play on the road, poor discipline, poor game management) have plagued Texas throughout Strong's tenure. Will Muschamp fielded a good defense at florida and won 11 games at one point. In all likelihood he is going to have more wins at South Carolina year one than Charlie Strong will year 3 at Texas. And Will Muschamp sucks.
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maybe college football has just passed the state of texas by think about it when's the last time a team from texas accomplished anything clearly, high school football in texas has mutated and morphed into such an unwieldy beast that the supposedly coveted athletes produced by it are completely unprepared for the college game Alaois fucked around with this message at 10:25 on Nov 23, 2016 |
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my bat mitzvah ROCKED posted:Actually he is poo poo as a defensive coach as Texas records show So was Manny Diaz and he's cool and good.
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Dilber posted:So was Manny Diaz and he's cool and good. Diaz is fine so long as someone else is teach the players fundamentals.
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He's actually done an amazing job coaching up our freshman lbs. He's even turned some real poo poo upperclassmen into serviceable players.
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Dilber posted:He's actually done an amazing job coaching up our freshman lbs. He's even turned some real poo poo upperclassmen into serviceable players. your guys already knew how to not tackle so he had to try something different
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Sab0921 posted:Texas has been one of the worst major programs in the country over Strong's tenure. They are 16-20 with a loss to Kansas and a shutout loss to Iowa State. There were numerous blow outs (Texas gave up 31 points in a quarter to TCU) and no signs of marked improvements. The same issues (not being able to play on the road, poor discipline, poor game management) have plagued Texas throughout Strong's tenure. Strong turned a bunch of nobodies at Louisville into NFL players. Clearly though the Big XII is stylistically very different than other conferences on offense.
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Kim Jong Il posted:Strong turned a bunch of nobodies at Louisville into NFL players. Clearly though the Big XII is stylistically very different than other conferences on offense. Venables was smart to leave that conference and go to Clemson.
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DrunkPanda posted:Well, I guess "best" is kind of a subjective ranking. But my point is we spent $180 million to upgrade our facilities last year. We're not going to do that and then say "oh, we don't want to spend an extra million to keep our head coach. we don't mind going back to being lovely at football" I think the Colorado administration would be secretly really happy if someone like Oregon came along and gave MacIntyre a big money contract. Until this year lovely at football describes MacIntyre's time at CU and I'm not sure you really want to give him a big money extension when they have a pretty senior laden team this year and their schedule has been kind of lovely.
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Have we talked about how Jimbo Fisher got extended an offer from LSU? lol
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Kim Jong Il posted:Strong turned a bunch of nobodies at Louisville into NFL players. Clearly though the Big XII is stylistically very different than other conferences on offense. Yeah I think people don't really comprehend how hard it is to face these offenses week in and week out. It's one thing to face a Big 12 offense to start the season or in a bowl game when you have weeks to prepare and a rested defense. You can stop or even shut down an offense in those circumstances. But when you're playing your 4th straight game where there were 80+ defensive snaps and your guys are hurt/worn out, good luck.
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