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Georgia Peach
Jan 7, 2005

SECESSION IS FUTILE

quote:

To: detective; newgeezer
He MUST prevent the development of an Obama Foundation!!!!


150 posted on 11/22/2016, 12:47:50 PM by DungeonMaster (Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft.)
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Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

So the Donald is noting that he will keep an open mind on this whole climate business. Turns out freep is not thrilled about this idea either.

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

So the Donald is noting that he will keep an open mind on this whole climate business. Turns out freep is not thrilled about this idea either.

Ahahahaha holy poo poo. You know, if he wasn't appointing people like Jeff Sessions and Steve Bannon to top spots in the Administration, I'd think that Trump had pulled off the greatest con job in the history of politics.

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

So the Donald is noting that he will keep an open mind on this whole climate business. Turns out freep is not thrilled about this idea either.

Basically he weakly walked back parts his platform today, including continuing to prosecute Hillary, acknowledging a connection between human activity and climate change, etc. On the alt-right, he said "I don’t want to energize the group, and I disavow the group. It’s not a group I want to energize, and if they are energized, I want to look into it and find out why." On the literal nazi stuff the other day, "I disavow and condemn them."

And yeah, freep is really unhappy right now.

Smeep
Jan 20, 2004

Odd how they don't seem to have posted anything on how the Trump Foundation admitted it broke "self-dealing" rules.

Taco Duck
Feb 18, 2011


Freep will just say that Trump is pretending to go back on his promises in order to play 70 dimensional chess with Soros

Jagged Jim
Sep 26, 2013

I... I can only look though the window...

Alter Ego posted:

Ahahahaha holy poo poo. You know, if he wasn't appointing people like Jeff Sessions and Steve Bannon to top spots in the Administration, I'd think that Trump had pulled off the greatest con job in the history of politics.

Considering all the campaign funds he's funneled into businesses owned by himself I'd call this the greatest con job in the history of politics anyway.

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!
So I was going to cover more of the whining about Trump changing his mind about going after Hillary, but after skimming them it's just all the same thing over and over and over - either Trump is a master tactician always a dozen steps ahead of his opponents, or it's a non-statement designed to trick the left into complacency because the POTUS doesn't decide who gets prosecuted, or it's the ultimate betrayal. Each thread eventually degrades into a stupid shouting match between those three camps and it's really not very fun at all.

I found only one post that actually pointed out how dangerous it is to have the winning candidate go after the losing candidate, and he was shouted down immediately.

Instead, from Donald Trump at The New York Times: Live on Twitter posted by freeper FewsOrange

Various NYT columnists and editors live-tweeted the event. All of the tweets, some with clarifying annotations, are listed here: http://www.nytimes.com/live/trump-at-the-new-york-times-the-tweets/

You should probably go read all of that, as freep ends up almost nothing but Hillary while much more was talked about.

quote:

To: FewsOrange

I guessed I missed something as I thought earlier report was that he would not be going.

Tired of the media focus on whether Clinton will be investigated. This needs to occur, especially the Clinton Foundation! Media is affair, I suspect, as the are involved.

3 posted on 11/22/2016, 11:08:52 AM by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp: Replace Ryan & McConnell; Primary Lyn' Ted and others.)

So yeah, let's talk about that. Trump sent out a few tweets this morning ripping into the NYT for allegedly changing the terms of the interview. The NYT denied any such change happened. A few hours later, Trump tweeted that it was back on. A rumor circulated that Priebus told Trump that the rules had changed in an effort to get him to cancel.

quote:

To: FewsOrange.

I have to say that Kellyanne Conway an the Trump staff has to stop using the word “fairness”. Fairness, balance and centrist are all bad words to describe the press. Kellyanne looks like a baby when she asks for fairness. What she should be asking the press for is honesty, journalism, and respect for the viewers/readers.

The press has clearly lost respect for the American people. Trump is the champion of the middle class. So, its right for him to point out that the press no longer cares about their audience. They are just trying to persuade, not inform their audience. When Joe American and his wife turn on the news. They want honesty. They want to be informed. And they get angry when they are being used, when they are being manipulated.

So, Kellyanne if you are listening. The word “Fairness” is out. Fairness sounds like its all about Trump. Honesty, Journalism and respect for the audience. Trump does not mind a tough reporter. But he can’t stand a liar.


6 posted on 11/22/2016, 11:14:09 AM by poinq

quote:

To: gspurlock

He didn’t say anything about interferring if someone else, like Congress or the DOJ want to.

Actually, Kellyanne went on MSNBC later this morning and addressed that by saying that Congress will follow Trump's lead on this because he's the party leader now. It sure sounds like he's going to let HRC off the hook.

If this turns out to be the case, then my confidence in him is completely shattered.


9 posted on 11/22/2016, 11:19:02 AM by Cementjungle

quote:

To: Cementjungle

Mine too. You cant campaign on “lock her up” and then say just kidding.


10 posted on 11/22/2016, 11:22:20 AM by proust (Trump / Pence 2016!)

quote:

To: gspurlock

“He didn’t say anything about interfering”

Trump just rolled over for the MSM/NY Times on prosecuting the Clintons and on he Paris Climate agreement!! It is exactly what you are seeing... Reince Priebus told him not to meet with the Times...he went ahead anyway...

Trump just went rouge on all of us ( as well as the 3 people who got him where he is)...don’t try to make this ok with some talk about 3 dimensional chess...


KellyAnne Conway was blindsided by the Clinton statement when she was on MSNBC this morning...she had no idea that Trump had made the statement that he would back off the investigation...she played it the best she could...check out her words.

Trump made this decision himself behind the backs of Priebus, Conway and Bannon, and he stated that he doesn’t think his supporters would mind(think again Donald)..

18 posted on 11/22/2016, 11:28:06 AM by MaxistheBest
Yes, Trump really did say that he didn't think his supporters would mind backing off of Hillary.

quote:

To: MaxistheBest

“Trump just rolled over for the MSM/NY Times on prosecuting the Clintons and on he Paris Climate agreement!!”

I love watching you guys explode and meltdown.

Buddy, last week you same people SWORE he wasn’t going to do the border fence or get rid of Obamacare.


You just move from one silly display of emotion to another.

All of this stuff is going to be done. Right now he has to assemble his government and try to settle the post-election situation down.

So take a chill pill and stop with the drama queen antics
.


24 posted on 11/22/2016, 11:34:02 AM by VanDeKoik

Freep opinion: Donald Trump is a liberal

quote:

To: MaxistheBest

He is a liberal.

If people were expecting an ideological conservative, they were bound to be disappointed.

I wasn’t expecting Trump to keep his promises.

Once in office, they find a way to weasel out of them.



25 posted on 11/22/2016, 11:34:30 AM by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))

A few more freepers are joining the "well maybe he shouldn't go after Hillary" camp.

quote:

To: VanDeKoik

Yes, I know, which is why "lock her up" was in quotes.

If he wanted to pursue the matter, he would be calling for Congress to authorize a special prosecutor to look into the matter, and spend 5 years "Ken Starr-ing" Hillary.

He thinks that doing so would be detrimental in the long run for the country, and frankly, I might be leaning that way myself.

38 posted on 11/22/2016, 11:43:43 AM by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)

Freep opinion: The NYT can not be trusted to live-tweet an event that is exclusive Trump responding to questions

quote:

To: scbison

NY times interview that was live blogged.

We're supposed to suddenly believe what the NYT says? It's in conflict with what Kellyanne Conway said on 2 different shows today. I trust her more than what some NYT reporter blogs about.

45 posted on 11/22/2016, 11:49:49 AM by Cementjungle

Freep opinions: never take questions, just release statements, that's a sure-fire way to make sure nobody has to fill information gaps with speculation!

quote:

To: FewsOrange

Trump should not do these types of interviews. They give out one word answers and then get the news cycles to talk about it for a week before they put out the full thing. Just talk directly to the people Trump and let the failing New York times research what you told us. Your message has from day one gotten muddled once the MSM filter is applied


49 posted on 11/22/2016, 11:53:52 AM by wiseprince

This is now only the second post of this kind I've seen today.

quote:

To: Yo-Yo

He thinks that doing so would be detrimental in the long run for the country, and frankly, I might be leaning that way myself.

Might be some truth in this. I was having this conversation last night with a good friend of mine. It's a political hot potato to be sure. The danger is giving the appearance that you're prosecuting your opponent because she ran against you.

I figure the way to do it is start slow, nail some low level types first. Do that for a while, get a few to turn state's evidence along the way, then nail someone important in the upper tier. Once you've done a couple of those, then go for the top.

50 posted on 11/22/2016, 11:54:21 AM by JamesP81

I love that the second part of this post doesn't really logically follow the first.

quote:

To: MaxistheBest

Keep in mind that Trump probably went into this interview woefully unprepared to discuss any matters of substance. We saw a lot of this during the campaign when he’d spend days posting Twitter messages to attack Hillary Clinton over things that he could have addressed much more effectively when she was standing ten feet away from him in a debate, with 80 million people watching on TV.

53 posted on 11/22/2016, 11:59:43 AM by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")

I wonder if they'll ever, ever understand why there are so many people terrified of a Trump presidency. They come so close sometimes...

quote:

To: wiseprince

“Trump should not do these types of interviews.”

He did this on his own, against some very good advice...he’s back to “primary Trump” where he says anything....this morning he Twittered that the NY Times was a failing dishonest newspaper...2 hours later he’s saying how much respect he has for the paper..


54 posted on 11/22/2016, 12:00:32 PM by MaxistheBest

quote:

To: VanDeKoik

Everyone on this thread who is flapping out has oh so conveniently forgotten that Trump does NOT believe in telling the enemy what he is going to do. I get so sick of these so-called Trump supporters with no patience and no b-lls.

61 posted on 11/22/2016, 12:12:03 PM by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
During the debates, Trump telegraphed for a good week and a half that he was going to go after Bill's affairs and alleged rapes. This "doesn't tell the enemy what he's going to do" stuff is a talking point and no substance.

quote:

To: wiseprince

“The bigger problem is that when he does these interviews”

The wife knew something strange was coming down the pike when he started his Twitter storm a few days ago ... he went against good counsel to meet the Times. Trump needs to understand that he will not get away with the kind of crap he did in the primaries ...

The wife brought up a good point..he just put Jeff Sessions in a strange place before his confirmation...he’s going to get a hundred questions on this...

he should have just kept his ****ing mouth shut!!!


64 posted on 11/22/2016, 12:19:23 PM by MaxistheBest

2001 freeper.

quote:

To: MaxistheBest

He went rogue today on the Clintons and the Paris agreement and he did behind the backs of people that put him where he is!

Conspiracy!!! Trump is a liar! Impeach the bastard... NOW!!!

66 posted on 11/22/2016, 12:23:08 PM by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)

quote:

To: agere_contra

I totally agree with you.

To the drama queens:When the clock is ticking down in a basketball game and one side that is leading and has the ball dribbles away the time on the scoreboard, or a football player “kneels” on the last play as the clock runs out, they are assuring no slip ups that could lose the game for them. The Electoral College has not met yet and Trump’s inauguration is almost two months away. COOL IT JERKS! Give the man the CREDIT that is due. He WON AGAINST ALL ODDS BY DOING IT HIS WAY. Who are any of you drama queens to TELL HIM what he must do????????????????????????????????????????


67 posted on 11/22/2016, 12:24:38 PM by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)

By now, of course, it's full-on slapfight.

quote:

To: MaxistheBest

B.S.!!!!!!! I’ll do my own thinking and don’t need or accept anything lily-livered weenies have to say trying to sway my opinions to suit their own.
I worked for the election of Donald Trump from the get-go so don’t think you have any say at all. I was supporting him well before he declared and BTW he funded himself most of the way.
Now you are trying to take credit for Jeff Sessions? I think Jeff Sessions can think for himself. I expect him to be our next AG.
My candidate beat Hillary. My candidate is going to get the invasion of my country under control and my candidate is going to assure the Supreme Court stays conservative and RESPECTS and abides by the Constitution. ANYTHING ELSE IS GRAVY!
I am NOT a fair weather sailor as so many of you Drama Queens appear to be.


89 posted on 11/22/2016, 2:23:28 PM by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!
From Trump: ‘I have an open mind’ on Paris climate pact posted by freeper Kevin C

the excerpt posted:

In a meeting with New York Times journalists at the newspaper’s Manhattan headquarters, columnist Tom Friedman asked about Trump’s position on withdrawing from the climate pact, according to Times reporter Mike Grynbaum.

“I’m looking at it very closely,” Grynbaum reported Trump as saying on Twitter. “I have an open mind to it.” Trump also walked back on his previous position that climate change is a “hoax” perpetuated by the Chinese to threaten American manufacturing.

“I think there is some connectivity,” between human activity and climate change, Trump said. “Some, something. It depends on how much.”

He also went on to talk briefly about the impact that the agreement would have on the cost of doing business. The unequal cost burden between various countries in the Kyoto agreement is what caused big business to push back against climate change to begin with. Nobody thought it was a hoax before the pushback from American businesses started; almost nobody outside of America thinks it's a hoax.

Unfortunately, just like the whole "well I might not go after Hillary" stuff, this is a really wishy-washy, non-committal answer that leaves plenty of chance that he'll just go right back to what he said he wanted to do before.

quote:

To: Kevin C

Does Trump remember what he said on global warming during the campaign? Will someone please remind him?

5 posted on 11/22/2016, 10:47:19 AM by DoodleDawg

Freep opinions: Any time someone reports Trump said something that deviates from the party line, it's a hoax

quote:

To: Kevin C

Climate Nazis got to him already

Or just another hoax story based on nothing


7 posted on 11/22/2016, 10:48:12 AM by arl295

quote:

To: Maceman

just another hoax story

8 posted on 11/22/2016, 10:49:03 AM by arl295

This is not a "leak." This is from official live-tweets of the actual interview.

quote:

To: Kevin C

No, a thousand times no. The initial leaks from the NYT meeting are alarming. I want to see an authoritative report, but he needs to carryout his signature promises from the campaign trail or his base will decide he is just another politician.

9 posted on 11/22/2016, 10:49:21 AM by Truth29

[citation needed]

quote:

To: Aaron0617

A lot of ‘ stories’ from the nytimes turned out to be false

14 posted on 11/22/2016, 10:50:52 AM by Aaron0617

quote:

To: Maceman

The HILL pure liberal BS reporting!!!! Trump IS NOT a climate change believer!!!

15 posted on 11/22/2016, 10:52:01 AM by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)

quote:

To: Magnum44

It would appear ‘investigations’ are at an end.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-idUSKBN13H1DZ?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social

“U.S. Representative Jason Chaffetz, Republican chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, has said he will continue investigating Clinton’s use of a private server.

But Conway indicated Trump would frown on that.

“When the president-elect, who’s also the head of your party now, tells you before he’s even inaugurated he doesn’t wish to pursue these charges, it sends a very strong message - tone and content - to the members,” Conway said on MSNBC. “


28 posted on 11/22/2016, 11:01:31 AM by Black Agnes

Ah, there's the freep we know and love.

quote:

To: Kevin C

ANY “climate agreement” is pure redistribution Marxism and MUST be rejected in its entirety.

29 posted on 11/22/2016, 11:02:16 AM by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)

quote:

To: Kevin C

In a meeting with New York Times journalists at the newspaper’s Manhattan headquarters

Yeah. I'm gonna go with BS until I have reason not too. It's the NYT. They lie to keep from telling the truth.

33 posted on 11/22/2016, 11:07:31 AM by JamesP81

Some continue to lose hope.

quote:

To: Kevin C

Prosecution of Clinton – no, “she’s been through enough”. Strike one.

Cancel obamacare – no, “we”ll keep some of it”. Strike two.

Withdraw from Paris climate agreement – no, “I’m looking at it very carefully”. Strike three?


42 posted on 11/22/2016, 11:13:59 AM by charleywhiskey

quote:

To: Kevin C

He’s learning the Obama trick of saying one thing while doing another. He’s not making concessions, merely shutting them up.

49 posted on 11/22/2016, 11:18:55 AM by JerseyDvl (PRESIDENT TRUMP trumps hate and racism! Put some ice on it Hitlery ;-)

There's more but it's mostly just a slapfight between freeper Amendment10 and someone that's fallen for the shtick / trolling.

Bremen
Jul 20, 2006

Our God..... is an awesome God
I have to admit this is happening a lot quicker than I expected.

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!
From 'Hail Trump': White Nationalists Salute The President Elect {disgusted barf} posted by freeper spacewarp

This one is to the one in The Atlantic.

the OP and first post posted:

They have a video of a bunch of idiots marching around doing Nazi salutes and supposedly supporting Trump. I don't doubt that there are crazies out there that support both sides, but this crap disgusts me. Whether they're on the right, which it really appears they are, or the left, this crap cannot stand.

I have friends of mine who are trying to link this Spencer guy to the Trump campaign. I hope there's no truth to that. But, I wanted to put this out there so I could get some ideas on how to address this one from the perspective of the fact that there are those who seem to be carrying on and taking the victory that was so hard fought and turn it into something else.

There are people linking this to Steve Bannon, and claiming that the NPI group is somehow supportive of him. The cowards at CNN actually put up a hit piece on Bannon claiming he's being supported by NPI and David Duke.

What can we do to stop both this ridiculous display and the smears from the left on it? These clearly are NOT who this movement were for.


1 posted on 11/22/2016, 11:38:28 AM by spacewarp

I wonder when they'll figure out that these are the core group of the deplorables that Hillary was talking about.

quote:

To: spacewarp

I’d bet a dollar to a doughnut that this “white nationalist group” is financed and supported by Soros connections.

4 posted on 11/22/2016, 11:42:27 AM by upsdriver (I support Sarah Palin.)

quote:

To: spacewarp

point out BLM and New Black Panthers regarding Obama; dig up videos, screenshots, websites of that kind of thing.

Also, potentially Trump naming his treasury secretary, likely to be either Mnuchin or Gray (both Jewish) or HUD secretary, likely Ben Carson, would be important for Trump to do, and do FAST. It could get some of these NPI/Duke weirdos disillusioned and do it quick.

5 posted on 11/22/2016, 11:42:41 AM by ErikJohnsky

quote:

To: spacewarp

'Hail Trump': White Nationalists Salute The President Elect

False Flag Shills, probably in cahoots with Leftist Enemedia like the cesspool Atlantic.

15 posted on 11/22/2016, 11:49:34 AM by Navy Patriot (America, a Rule of Mob nation)

quote:

To: spacewarp

Look at all the Fake News the left has created about this guy in the past 48 hours:

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1CHMO_enUS582US582&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=spencer%20alt%20right

I have never heard of him before now.


16 posted on 11/22/2016, 11:49:49 AM by kaehurowing

I'm getting really tired of this "alt-left" bullshit.

quote:

To: spacewarp

yep, the alt-left has already tried to get this out into the mainstream media.

a friend of mine has already been asking me about it...and trying to tie Trump to this Spencer idiot.


Ann Coulter has been tweeting about it.

this is what passes for “journalism” today.

The same fake journalists who refused to tie Hussein to Bill Ayers the terrorist, or Hitlery to nations contributing to her “foundation”—nations that execute homosexuals.

18 posted on 11/22/2016, 11:51:03 AM by SoFloFreeper

quote:

To: spacewarp

yeah right.... why would nationalist socialists support Trump. This is phoney, they do not agree with conservative values.

26 posted on 11/22/2016, 11:54:35 AM by GregoTX

quote:

To: Hildy

Agent provocateurs. Very old strategy.

33 posted on 11/22/2016, 12:05:27 PM by odawg

Yeah, but the left clearly doesn't give much of a poo poo about the "communist" label, while even you guys cringe away from actual nazis.

quote:

To: spacewarp

How about the communists that endorsed Obama? Not a peep.

36 posted on 11/22/2016, 12:12:53 PM by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)

quote:

To: Secret Agent Man

Likely their money comes from undercover federal agents of some kind, although there is probably Muslim money too.

43 posted on 11/22/2016, 12:35:06 PM by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")

Ahahahah holy poo poo

quote:

To: spacewarp

I saw the video. They are raising glasses to toast. A few without glasses raised their hands as if they had a glass. Don’t believe the leftist bullshit.

44 posted on 11/22/2016, 12:39:31 PM by BubbaBasher ("Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals" - Sam Adams)
THEY RAISED THEIR HANDS IN THE NAZI SALUTE USING THE WORDS "HAIL VICTORY," A LITERAL TRANSLATION OF SIEG HEIL! Didn't I just try to convince myself that freep didn't like nazis?

quote:

To: spacewarp

A person that I knew from college posted this on his facebook. I deleted him from my listed immediately. It is one thing to post criticism about Trump or whoever, but to insinuate that their supporters are something terrible like racists and so on is personally insulting. I have no use for such people.

46 posted on 11/22/2016, 12:56:33 PM by castlegreyskull

quote:

To: spacewarp

So called “White nationalists” groups these days probably have 50% of their members FBI informants, 30% of ADL or SPLC infiltrates, 20% true believer nuts. My guess is those hail Trump salutes were from that 30% elements to smear Trump.

48 posted on 11/22/2016, 1:26:34 PM by Rebel2016

quote:

To: spacewarp

The communist Party of the US, as i pointed out to ‘tards on FB, supported bernie and DOS. As did other hate groups like BLM, CAIR and SPLC? As expected they were not interested in the truth.

These pseudo nazi a$$holes can’t even pronouce HEIL correctly.


50 posted on 11/22/2016, 2:29:53 PM by bravo whiskey (Never bring a liberal gun law to a gun fight.)

Well then.

Freepers: These pseudo nazi a$$holes can’t even pronouce HEIL correctly.

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!
Enough Trump.

From State of Michigan tells Detroit students 'Literacy is not a right' posted by freeper Libloather

the article posted:

Attorneys for Michigan Governor Rick Snyder are asking a judge to toss out a lawsuit against the state of Michigan filed by students in the Detroit school system and claim that literacy is not a legal right in the state of Michigan.

Seven children filed the lawsuit in September, saying decades of state disinvestment and deliberate indifference to Detroit's schools have denied them access to literacy.

The plaintiffs say the schools have deplorable building conditions, lack of books, classrooms without teachers, insufficient desks, buildings plagued by vermin, unsafe facilities and extreme temperatures.

The Michigan Attorney General asked a federal judge to dismiss a class action lawsuit arguing that Detroit schools are obligated to ensure that kids learn how to read and write. The state's motion to dismiss the lawsuit says: "there is no fundamental right to literacy".

I'm probably going to regret doing this sober. They're probably going to start making GBS threads on teachers, and I'm going to get angry.

quote:

To: Libloather

I know nothing about this case, but I am suspicious.

State by state, the education lobby is using the courts to increase school funding.

In my state, Kansas, it has reached the level of absurd. The legislature will pass a school funding bill, and in less than a week, the state supreme court will have rejected it, with instructions to try again. The courts have usurped legislative authority, and it is accepted as normal.


4 posted on 11/22/2016, 9:20:35 AM by lacrew

quote:

To: Libloather

Liberals fighting liberals and students protesting the very conditions they, themselves, helped create.

Bring back fundamental education. Reinstate corporal punishment. Allow administrators to expel however many students necessary. 90% of those students are black? Too bad. So sad.

Put "education" back into education.

5 posted on 11/22/2016, 9:21:15 AM by LouAvul (The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.)

quote:

To: Libloather

Detroit's schools have denied them access to literacy.

Where the hell were their parents? Oh wait ...

[image that GIS guesses as "black people fried chicken" omitted]

8 posted on 11/22/2016, 9:24:21 AM by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)

quote:

To: Libloather

Well, it isn’t a right. It’s an attribute that must be acquired through study.

In fact, one should have acquired the basics of literacy before they even enter the public school system. If they have not, the failure lies with the parents or legal guardians. A school can only compensate for such deficiencies to a certain degree.

17 posted on 11/22/2016, 9:33:02 AM by Boogieman

There's actually lots of that second paragraph so far, and I'm actually in agreement to a degree. Remember how I said that my sister is a teacher? Well, she's a teacher in a school in the lower income part of town. Parents that aren't involved or invested in their children's education are a significant problem. She regularly sees 5-6 year olds that come into school not knowing their ABCs and unable count to ten. I don't even know how you screw things up that badly.

Oh, finally.

quote:

To: poinq

“But access to literacy is a right.”

What does that even mean, “access to literacy is a right”? Literacy is not some building that we are barring the doors to.

20 posted on 11/22/2016, 9:38:38 AM by Boogieman

Yup, there it is.

quote:

To: Bryanw92

“That’s the problem. Teachers won’t work. Students won’t work.”

Well, teachers can’t work if students don’t work. And if students don’t work, the failure is the parents’, or lack thereof. Nothing will change until one particular community decides to start forming actual families again.

21 posted on 11/22/2016, 9:40:27 AM by Boogieman

I love it when they recognize problems without thinking about possible solutions that aren't awful.

quote:

To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Parents are responsible for the literacy of their children, not the government.”

Correct. I was going to post something similar. The family is key. In the past, the nuclear family provided support to their kids to ensure homework was completed, and that they studied. My mother made flash cards and worked with me to mater the “times” tables. Of course, she was a state at home mom and that helps a lot. Not really feasible in this day and age though.

26 posted on 11/22/2016, 9:50:51 AM by ConsCA

I kind of forgot that this was Detroit that we're talking about and so I didn't really brace myself for the racism. Oops.

quote:

To: Libloather

Could it be that as the city decayed the infrastructure also decayed?

Detroit has destroyed itself. It and the surrounding area have become a vast wasteland.

When a population demonizes education as “Too White”, then the result is illiteracy, and continued poverty. Just what the Democrats want in their plantation population.

30 posted on 11/22/2016, 10:06:31 AM by Yulee (Village of Albion)

Holy poo poo, a freeper that doesn't buy the ""school choice"" bullshit!

quote:

To: marktwain

School choice is turning good schools into failing schools. That’s just a fact in many districts. School choice sounds good, but in reality, it’s pretty much just the kids who get kicked out of their home district that enroll in school of choice districts. Ask any teacher or school secretary in a SOC district.

31 posted on 11/22/2016, 10:08:08 AM by FrdmLvr ("A is A. A thing is what it is.")
Fact check: true as gently caress. Charter and voucher programs are toxic.

quote:

Why does the media go on and on and on about the angry uneducated white vote but never mentions the high levels of illiteracy of certain democrat groups that vote nearly 100% dem?

36 posted on 11/22/2016, 10:31:06 AM by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)

quote:

To: Boogieman

They’re not solely responsible, but they are the foundation of education. If the foundation is cracked, it’s going to be near impossible to build any sound structure on top of it.

I’m not going to disagree with you about the Progressive destruction of the family. But when families worked, we started school at age 6. Now the kids get handed to Big Education at 3 or 4 and Big Ed takes on the job of building that foundation. They suck at it and they continue to suck at it for the next 16 years of a child’s life. They are so busy creating young pliant Marxists that they don’t have time to teach reading. Back in the old days when an illiterate could still find work, teachers used to teach the children of illiterates how to read. They taught slaves to read. They taught Native American hunter-gatherers to read. Teachers used to be a critical part of a civilized human’s development. Now they are just an American’s first Government Overlord.

39 posted on 11/22/2016, 10:54:09 AM by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
Fact check: No, teachers do still teach children how to read if they don't already know how, and learning how to read and understand what you're reading is a critical aspect of child development.

quote:

quote:

quote:

To: Libloather

While I agree that literacy is not a right. Its a skill. But access to literacy is a right.

14 posted on 11/22/2016, 9:27:14 AM by poinq

Cite chapter and verse of the Bill of Rights where that right is set forth. Do you know that the right of defense is not mentioned in the Bill of Rights?

41 posted on 11/22/2016, 11:26:57 AM by monocle

I can’t but I do know that the supreme court held that education is a right. I believe that they held the right because public education is generally available by the government and to preserve equal treatment by the government, everyone is allowed an adequate education because some people get it.

42 posted on 11/22/2016, 12:57:22 PM by poinq

Who wants to bet this freeper lives in a gated community?

quote:

To: Libloather

The people in the neighborhoods with deplorable conditions have no one to blame but themselves. There is NOTHING stopping parents from going in to clean up the schools and help teach. BUT NOPE! It’s always someone else’s fault.

43 posted on 11/22/2016, 1:27:20 PM by Organic Panic (Gentrification in America. Rich White Man Evicts Poor Black Family - MSNBCPBSCNNNYTABC)

quote:

To: polymuser

“Democrats , unions and unfaithful (to other Americans) car buyers and exec’s destroyed Detroit. Same for Pontiac, Flint and Saginaw.”

The Government of Japan, in collaboration with the Japanese auto industry, destroyed Detroit.

One country’s industry might be able to compete with another country’s, but no industrial sector can compete with the wealth and power of an entire advanced country.

This is especially true when its own country is convulsing and barfing in its eagerness to advantage the foreign industry and hamstring its own.

Democrats , unions and unfaithful consumers played a role, certainly, but it was a deliberate assassination by the Japanese.

This is the sort of thing Trump has promised to correct.

44 posted on 11/22/2016, 1:54:42 PM by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)

Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


I deal with shitheads like freeper dsc at work constantly. They whine about how x part costs too much nowdays, he used to buy it for five bucks! And how cars are impossible to work on today because they've got all these new fangled sensors and computers in them so you can't do anything! Then comes the "I bet you bought one of them little jap scrap rice rockets", and then me pointing out my mazda was made in michigan and their big 3 truck was made in mexico or canada.

Smeep
Jan 20, 2004

Basically every thread on anything anymore ...

Do not forget the unexplained deaths: Alex Okrent, Seth Rich, Andrew Breitbart, and many others.

quote:

To: Seeing More Clearly Now

Breitbart was under treatment for heart disease at the time of his death. The coroner’s report stated that he died of heart failure.

15 posted on 11/20/2016, 11:08:09 PM by Pelham (the refusal to Deport is defacto Amnesty)

quote:

To: Pelham

Pelham, assuming you the TROLL on duty now ?

19 posted on 11/20/2016, 11:36:12 PM by PraiseTheLord

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

McGlockenshire posted:

To: MaxistheBest

He is a liberal.

If people were expecting an ideological conservative, they were bound to be disappointed.

I wasn’t expecting Trump to keep his promises.

Once in office, they find a way to weasel out of them.


25 posted on 11/22/2016, 11:34:30 AM by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))

And yet you goosestepped your way right along with the rest and yanked that R handle. Go gently caress yourself rear end in a top hat. Nothing worse than someone that votes for something, then mocks how everyone else was fooled by voting for that same thing


i love they're trying to claim it as Soros/false flags. These fucks come out every year to support someone, this is just the first time someone was running that was as broke brained as these turds are

McGlockenshire posted:

To: Libloather

Liberals fighting liberals and students protesting the very conditions they, themselves, helped create.

Bring back fundamental education. Reinstate corporal punishment. Allow administrators to expel however many students necessary. 90% of those students are black? Too bad. So sad.

Put "education" back into education.

5 posted on 11/22/2016, 9:21:15 AM by LouAvul (The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.)

"loving urban ferals, running around all gang like and killing people. Don't they learn anything?"

"Schools are messed up and not teaching them anything? gently caress those niggers, who cares"

Jesus Christ. Bet if Granholm were still running things they'd be calling to lynch her. But no, it's that rear end in a top hat Snyder so they're likely taking turns trying to huff his farts

quote:

To: Libloather

The people in the neighborhoods with deplorable conditions have no one to blame but themselves. There is NOTHING stopping parents from going in to clean up the schools and help teach. BUT NOPE! It’s always someone else’s fault.

43 posted on 11/22/2016, 1:27:20 PM by Organic Panic (Gentrification in America. Rich White Man Evicts Poor Black Family - MSNBCPBSCNNNYTABC)

Uh, yes there is, because the schools are held liable for that stuff, and repair/infrastructure work has to be done by legal contractors to pass code. Also if the area is poor and destitute, what makes you think parents have the time to go work for free when they're likely working multiple jobs just to make ends meet. It's like your closest moment of socializing with people was yelling at some cardboard cutouts

SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Nov 23, 2016

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!
Hey, you know how we were wondering if freep didn't realize Hillary won the popular vote? A few do, but the rest?

From Hillary Clinton's Popular Vote Lead Over Donald Trump Now Exceeds 1.5 Million Votes posted by freeper ... eww ... Mandingo Conservative

quote:

I say BS and or illegal voting in NY and California. There is no way more Americans wanted this criminal as president.

1 posted on 11/22/2016, 6:26:25 PM by Mandingo Conservative

quote:

To: Mandingo Conservative

Minus at least 3 million illegal votes and Trump is up 1.5 million.


2 posted on 11/22/2016, 6:27:42 PM by conservativepoet

quote:

To: Mandingo Conservative

Getting your fans and followers, not to mention non-citizens, all illegally stuffing ballot boxes will get you as many votes as you like.

Donald Trump is the president-elect; get over it.

12 posted on 11/22/2016, 6:29:31 PM by Jack Hammer

quote:

To: Mandingo Conservative

I wouldn’t read too much into this. There are 2-3 million criminal illegals in the country alone. How many illegals voted for Hillary? The media is very quiet about this.

14 posted on 11/22/2016, 6:31:31 PM by HarleyD

quote:

To: Mandingo Conservative

California is still making and counting votes. The rest of the country is largely done. Easy to cheat in Cali, anyone can absentee vote apparently and even the provisional ballots are not being challenged.

Still waiting for Michigan to be tallied (and there isn’t even a recount there).

The leftard news agencies (fakebook,USA Ptooey, et al) are pimping this story.

I asked in past elections about the absentee vote (which would close the gap as overseas military ballots are tallied) and was told that the deadlines are far before this week.

15 posted on 11/22/2016, 6:31:47 PM by a fool in paradise ( Democrats' last peaceful transfer of power was January 1981.)

quote:

To: conservativepoet

I agree with you .. they had already found 600,000 illegals very early in the counting. So, she was already that far behind .. and with several states who favor illegals still not finished counting .. the total count of illegal votes could end up being well over 2 million.

SO HILLARY IS STILL BEHIND TRUMP .. AND THIS NONSENSE HAS TO STOP.
THE POPULAR VOTE DOES NOT MATTER - IT’S THE 300 ELECTORAL VOTES THAT COUNT.

18 posted on 11/22/2016, 6:32:50 PM by CyberAnt (Peace through Strength)

quote:

To: Mandingo Conservative; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ...

Are unscrupulous election officials manufacturing more Hillary votes to create more pressure to either elect Hillary via the E.C. or eliminate the E.C. altogether?

Combined General and Maryland “Freak State” PING!

24 posted on 11/22/2016, 6:34:24 PM by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Hey, New Delhi! What the hell were you thinking???)

quote:

To: Mandingo Conservative

According to new figures released by The Associated Press on Saturday …

Automatic zero credibility. Never mind the worst form of argumentum ad verecundiam where one ascribes false authority deliberately.

25 posted on 11/22/2016, 6:34:31 PM by Olog-hai

quote:

To: Mandingo Conservative

Popular vote tallies are like climate “change”.

Welcome to the dustbin of irrelevancy.

29 posted on 11/22/2016, 6:36:06 PM by Senator Goldwater

Yup, they still believe that fractional bullshit

quote:

To: Mandingo Conservative

This BS is being pushed by the fake media, so we can be sure that it’s false. It must be based on illegal voting, voting machine fraud, manipulation of election results in Dem controlled districts.
The fake media will never do an in depth study of vote fraud because they live by fraud. Hopefully, we will get a scientific analysis by comparing paper ballots to machines (in comparable demographic districts), and determining if there were any “fractional” votes.

31 posted on 11/22/2016, 6:36:32 PM by grumpygresh (We don't have Democrats and Republicans, we have the Faustian uni-party)

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Cop Porn Popper posted:

I deal with shitheads like freeper dsc at work constantly. They whine about how x part costs too much nowdays, he used to buy it for five bucks! And how cars are impossible to work on today because they've got all these new fangled sensors and computers in them so you can't do anything! Then comes the "I bet you bought one of them little jap scrap rice rockets", and then me pointing out my mazda was made in michigan and their big 3 truck was made in mexico or canada.

Heh, I used to have vehicle code explanations for that. "See that letter right there in your VIN? That one right there? Guess what, that means this vehicle was made in Mex-heee-co, fucker. Ole'!"

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!
So I have an unusual one for you. I opened this thread earlier, but just now got around to opening the additional pages, and it's been pulled with the reason "poster's request". You'll have to take my word on the contents.

From the remains of Pope Francis Equates Christianity to Communism posted by freeper Mount Athos

It's blogspam that links to an article in a Spanish newspaper that in turn links to an article on an Italian site, which is in turn titled, translated, "The Republic Pope: 'Trump? I do not judge. Interested only if hurts the poor'"

the article, via Google Translate posted:

Q: Your Holiness, through those bridges to be built will facilitate the re-aggregate of those desperate but inequalities are born in rich countries. There are laws that tend to diminish the flow but do not have much effect. You will never end this phenomenon?

A: "She spoke and wrote several times about this problem. One of the phenomena that inequalities encourage is the movement of many people from one country to another, from one continent to another. After two, three, four generations, these peoples will and integrate their difference tends to disappear altogether. "

Q: I call it a universal miscegenation in the positive sense of the term.

A: "Bravo, is the right word. I do not know if it will be universal but it will be more prevalent today. What we want is the fight against inequality, this is the greatest evil that exists in the world. It 's the money that creates and it is against those measures that tend to level the well-being and thus promote equality. "

Q: She told me some time ago that the precept "Love your neighbor as yourself" had to change, the data that we are going through dark times, and become "more than yourself." So she fondles a society dominated dall'eguaglianza. This, as you know, is the program of socialism Marx and then of communism. She therefore thinks a Marxian type of society?

A: "It has repeatedly been said and my response has always been that, if anything, are the communists who think like Christians. Christ spoke of a society where the poor, the weak, the marginalized, for them to decide. Not the demagogues, not Barabbas, but the people, the poor, who have faith in the transcendent God or not, it is they who must help to achieve equality and freedom. "
Not exactly a perfect translation there, but you get the point. This is how the excerpt on freep translated that last bit:

the excerpt posted:

“It is the communists, in all cases, that think like Christians. Christ has spoken of a society where the poor, the weak and the excluded are those who make the decisions. Not the demagogues, or the barbarians, but rather the people and the poor that have faith in God or not that we have to help obtain equality and liberty.”

Anyway, we all know how much freep looooves Pope Francis, so I'm sure their reaction to this one is going to be hilarious.

quote:

"It is the communists, in all cases, that think like Christians."

Can you think of any communists who think like Christians?

1 posted on 11/22/2016, 2:28:45 PM by Mount Athos

quote:

To: Mount Athos

I’ve had my doubts that he is Catholic; now I doubt he is Christian.

3 posted on 11/22/2016, 2:30:32 PM by Repealthe17thAmendment

quote:

To: Mount Athos

With all due respect, someone needs to get Pope Francis to a neurologist.

4 posted on 11/22/2016, 2:31:08 PM by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)

quote:

To: Mount Athos

More fake news. Still don’t like the Pope, but this sounds phonier than a 3 Lira bill.

7 posted on 11/22/2016, 2:31:33 PM by pissant ((Deport 'em all))
A quick google suggests that Il Repubblica is a legitimate daily newspaper.

quote:

To: Mount Athos

Jesus preached about voluntary individual sharing and caring, not imposing another dictatorship like the one that crucified him

9 posted on 11/22/2016, 2:32:53 PM by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)

quote:

To: Mount Athos

This Pope is clearly a communist.

It is true that liberalism and leftism are perversions of certain aspects of Christianity.


But they are distorted interpretations and incomplete.

Even if what the Pope is saying were true, he would be only saying a small part of the story.

11 posted on 11/22/2016, 2:33:34 PM by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)

quote:

To: Mount Athos

Someone buy Francis a clue.

The center of worship, MATTERS.

Communists never ever showed the slightest interest in worshiping Jesus Christ, and for that matter neither did Muslims, to bring in another group he seems to be trying to moral-equivalence.

What you worship MATTERS. That’s what you are going to be like.


15 posted on 11/22/2016, 2:35:21 PM by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)

quote:

To: Mount Athos

Not sorry to say this, but this man is an absolute idiot and buffoon. Did Mao think like a Christian? How about Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin, or Lenin? This man is a fraud.

16 posted on 11/22/2016, 2:35:24 PM by Fungi

quote:

To: Mount Athos

Communists are atheists who deny God

20 posted on 11/22/2016, 2:36:36 PM by rdcbn ("There is no means of avoiding a final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alt)
As opposed to all the atheists that don't deny god? C'mon, try harder than that.

quote:

To: pissant

Nah, it’s all too real. He’s made multiple comments along this lines. He basically sees communists as do-gooders who desire little more than helping the poor. His outlook is Marxist, as he attributes poverty to rich people (and rich countries) hogging wealth and resources. Never mind that capitalism lifts people out of poverty, while communism confines people to it.

22 posted on 11/22/2016, 2:37:35 PM by irishjuggler

:stare:

quote:

To: ifinnegan

In the Nazi (National Socialist) ethos, “Work makes Freedom.”

They mean, of course, human work. In which humans can be proud.

But in Christian faith, the work of the Son makes freedom. This is something that can be properly met only with utmost humility. The gift shames the pride of humans.

25 posted on 11/22/2016, 2:38:15 PM by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)

quote:

To: Mount Athos

This guy is an ignorant fool who probably has "Imagine" playing in his room on repeat. He clearly has no respect for Catholic institutions and doctrine and is a dyed in the wool liberation theology moron for whom the theology portion is just used to lure otherwise Godly people to embrace his leftist politics.

He cannot go soon enough. Perhaps the church can survive him but it will be grievously damaged, that much is certain.

27 posted on 11/22/2016, 2:39:09 PM by pepsi_junkie (ui)

quote:

To: Mount Athos

They really picked a real winner this time around. Coming next: The Christian Manifesto....

28 posted on 11/22/2016, 2:39:31 PM by EagleUSA

quote:

To: Repealthe17thAmendment

As I recall the original Jerusalem Christians were essentially a commune. Paul took another road and that withered.

There have been lots and lots of American Christian communes that have eventually failed.
Amana and Oneida are two. There was a local shekinah commune that was essentially Christian Communism.

It failed after 5 years or so. A shekinah woman worked for me and was a fervent Christian and wonderful person. She gave all her salary to the commune. her husband was a pilot and gave his salary as well. I think failure resulted from doctrinal bickering

30 posted on 11/22/2016, 2:40:21 PM by Thibodeaux (Exile Barack, Exile the Wookie, Exile Malia, Exile Shasha)

quote:

To: Repealthe17thAmendment

I have had doubts about his being a Christian for ages. He never acted like one. Question for Catholics. If this is true, what are yall going to do because if you do nothing, you become part of the problem? He has gotten away with far too much. No person is perfect and that includes this pope.

31 posted on 11/22/2016, 2:40:40 PM by MamaB (Heb. 13:2)

quote:

To: pepsi_junkie

Francis yet nails the sanctity of life issue square on the head. It seems a logical disconnect, because communists are one of the least likely people to honor sanctity of life.

32 posted on 11/22/2016, 2:41:04 PM by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)

quote:

To: Mount Athos

. . . Christ has spoken of a society where the poor, the weak and the excluded are those who make the decisions.

Where? When?

I do recall The Beatitudes:
[snip of Matthew 5:3-10]

I see that they are rewarded in the Kingdom of Heaven, but I don't see anything about where they get to "make the decisions."

36 posted on 11/22/2016, 2:43:29 PM by Repealthe17thAmendment

Oh man, I love it when I can post something and not bold it!

quote:

To: Thibodeaux

As I recall the original Jerusalem Christians were essentially a commune. Paul took another road and that withered.

Acts 2:44-45 records: “Now all who believed were together, and had all things in common, and sold their possessions and goods, and divided them among all, as anyone had need.”

I observe that this was a unique situation that didn’t last very long.

We later see that elderly widows were to be financially provided for by a common church fund BUT ONLY IF they had no family members in the Church who could privately support them (1 Timothy 5:3-16).

Obviously, all members of the Church’s congregations at this later time were not being provided for out of a common fund — ONLY A SELECT GROUP OF PEOPLE.

In considering Acts 2, we should note that Christians were being persecuted. Also, thousands of new believers, some from distant lands, had just been added to the Church at the Feast of Pentecost in Jerusalem.

No doubt many decided to remain in Judea at that time to learn more about their new faith and rely on one another through growing persecution rather than return to their homes far away. These people thus had an immediate need for food and lodging, and A VOLUNTARY POOLING of resources took care of that.

This is different from Communism where there is STATE COERCION.

The believers at the time felt extremely blessed, grateful, hospitable and generous. Many who had extra assets sold some of them to help finance the living expenses of others.

The expression “all things in common” means this: “I love you, and therefore your needs are just as important to me as my own needs. I consider all that I have as being yours also.”

However, keep in mind that THEY COULD NOT SELL WHAT THEY DID NOT ALREADY OWN.

They were VOLUNTARY ( there’s that word again ) selling some of their privately owned property so they could help others. This was charity, not communism.

NO ONE WAS COMPELLED to sell his property, nor did anyone confiscate one’s property or income to give it to others, as many governments do today.

40 posted on 11/22/2016, 2:46:26 PM by SeekAndFind

quote:

To: Mount Athos

Another day, another mind-blowingly stupid statement from that moron in a silly hat. How do you catholics like your 'infallible' pope?

Vicar of Christ? Hardly.


47 posted on 11/22/2016, 2:49:17 PM by 60Gunner (The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato)

quote:

To: Mount Athos

“Christ has spoken of a society where the poor, the weak and the excluded are those who make the decisions.”

Is he is so twisted that he honestly believes the words of Jesus could possibly be so misunderstood/misinterpreted as a description/endorsement of Marxist Communism?

49 posted on 11/22/2016, 2:50:56 PM by heterosupremacist (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God ~ Thomas Jefferson)

I suspect this minor ongoing abortion derail is what killed the thread.

quote:

To: HiTech RedNeck

Francis (finally) came out hard against abortion because he needs to buy some time. He's been so outrageously obvious in his anti-Catholicism that he has provoked the orthodox in the Church (i.e., Burke et al) to start the official recapture of the Church. However, Francis cannot allow this process to go forward. The orthodox are forcing his hand. So, Pope Francis has, at long last, said what he must about abortion so that people won't listen when Burke tells that that, well, the Pope isn't really Catholic. Has Pope Francis acted in time to avert schism. Since I doubt he'll answer the Cardinals five questions, I doubt it.

50 posted on 11/22/2016, 2:51:58 PM by utahagen

Anyway, I find it tragic that the brutal, authoritarian communist states that rose in Russia and China are forever what the freep generation will think of when they hear "communism." I wonder how many more generations it'll be before that taint is minimized enough that it no longer causes a bunch of people to recoil in horror.

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!
One more tonight.

From Emotional media execs have profanity laced meltdowns over media summit with ‘mean’ Trump posted by freeper mandaladon

It's a poo poo article from a fake news site that quotes and cites this article in The New Yorker containing what are alleged to be quotes from some of the members of the press that attended yesterday's dressing down of the media from Trump.

I'll just quote straight from that article instead of the excerpt, as the excerpt got gutted by JimRob because it left in the f-bombs uncensored.

The New Yorker posted:

For more than twenty minutes, Trump railed about “outrageous” and “dishonest” coverage. When he was asked about the sort of “fake news” that now clogs social media, Trump replied that it was the networks that were guilty of spreading fake news. The “worst,” he said, were CNN (“liars!”) and NBC.

This is where we are. The President-elect does not care who knows how unforgiving or vain or distracted he is. This is who he is, and this is who will be running the executive branch of the United States government for four years.

The over-all impression of the meeting from the attendees I spoke with was that Trump showed no signs of having been sobered or changed by his elevation to the country’s highest office. Rather, said one, “He is the same kind of blustering, bluffing blowhard as he was during the campaign.”

Another participant at the meeting said that Trump’s behavior was “totally inappropriate” and “loving outrageous.” The television people thought that they were being summoned to ask questions; Trump has not held a press conference since late July. Instead, they were subjected to a stream of insults and complaints—and not everyone absorbed it with pleasure.

“I have to tell you, I am emotionally loving pissed,” another participant said. “How can this not influence coverage? I am being totally honest with you. Toward the end of the campaign, it got to a point where I thought that the coverage was all about [Trump’s] flaws and problems. And that’s legit. But, I thought, O.K., let’s give them the benefit of the doubt. After the meeting today, though—and I am being human with you here—I think, gently caress him! I know I am being emotional about it. And I know I will get over it in a couple of days after Thanksgiving. But I really am offended. This was unprecedented. Outrageous!”
[...]
Participants said that Trump did not raise his voice, but that he went on steadily at the start of the meeting about how he had been treated poorly. “It was all so Trump,” one said. “He is like this all the time. He’ll freeze you out and then be nice and humble and sort of want you to like him.”

“But he truly doesn’t seem to understand the First Amendment,” the source continued. “He doesn’t. He thinks we are supposed to say what he says and that’s it.”

quote:

To: mandaladon

He thinks that they should just report the news....Imagine that.

They make up so much junk, it obliterates the news.


3 posted on 11/22/2016, 3:40:23 PM by Sacajaweau

quote:

To: mandaladon

"“But he truly doesn’t seem to understand the First Amendment,” the source continued. “He doesn’t. He thinks we are supposed to say what he says and that’s it.”"

That's what you did with Barack.

6 posted on 11/22/2016, 3:41:52 PM by Artemis Webb (Ted Kennedy burns in hell.)

Yeah, this poo poo is getting kind of old, isn't it?

quote:

To: mandaladon

Trump is doing for us what we have wanted to do for decades. The biased media deserves this, and more. The were taken to the woodshed and spanked and they don’t like it much. Too bad, this is what they get for being arrogant, treacherous, decievers.


7 posted on 11/22/2016, 3:42:00 PM by HerrBlucher (For the sake of His sorrowful passion have mercy on us and on the whole world.)

quote:

To: mandaladon

“I know I am being emotional about it,” the individual said. “And I know I will get over it in a couple of days after Thanksgiving. But I really am offended. This was unprecedented. Outrageous!”

Yes, it is unprecedented. A Republican -- a President, no less -- that doesn't bend down and kiss your rear end.

When Obama complained about your press coverage (and he reportedly did, albeit via his staff), what did you say to him? Did you say "F*** him!" behind his back?

If you didn't, why did you treat the Obama administation differently? Perhaps if you were to ask yourself that question -- honestly -- you might finally start to "get it".

Trump speaks for about 60% of the public, who think your political coverage is biased. You abandoned all pretense of objectivity this year, and now you wonder why you are even more unpopular than Trump?

8 posted on 11/22/2016, 3:43:22 PM by justlurking (#TurnOffCNN)

quote:

To: mandaladon

Right...

You media types can print what you want but your filter privileges are REVOKED. You will no longer act as a filter and a translator for what is said. Donald Trump has told you that he’s going to talk Direct to the people and you can print what you want from what you hear.

Rotten Bastages!

12 posted on 11/22/2016, 3:45:33 PM by Samurai_Jack (War is cruelty, there is no use trying to reform it; the crueler it is, the sooner it will be over.)

:stonk:

quote:

To: All

If these pukes do not return to some semblance of objectivity they are going to spark a civil war.

A vicious, ugly civil war.

And after they lose we are going to give them a fair trial right before we shoot them.


20 posted on 11/22/2016, 3:51:57 PM by TheTimeOfMan (A time for peace and a time for war)

Apropos of nothing,

quote:

To: mandaladon

“I have to tell you, I am emotionally f***ing pissed,’ said one of them. “How can this not influence coverage? […] After the meeting today, though – and I am being human with you here – I think, F*** him!”

As with muslims, any suggestion that what we say "might make them mad" makes zero sense! The press might give him bad coverage now that he's spoken "mean" to them? muslims are always mad at us, as far back as anyone can remember; presstitutes have given the PRESIDENT-ELECT (it feels so good to say that) bad coverage ever since he began shining the light of truth on their boyprez and their nominatrix.

21 posted on 11/22/2016, 3:53:45 PM by Migraine (Diversity is great- -- until it happens to YOU.)

I think this is now only the second time I have ever - EVER - seen freeper Amendment10 not gimmickpost.

quote:

To: mandaladon; All

Trump needs to bypass the media by doing the following. He needs to do television and YouTube RSBN channel “state-of-the-union” addresses biweekly, but at least monthly, to let patriots know what’s going on with Trump Administration and RINO-controlled Congress.

22 posted on 11/22/2016, 3:54:25 PM by Amendment10

quote:

To: mandaladon

It makes me wonder what Trump’s objective may have been.

It may not have been to make nice. It may have been to goad them into over the top coverage that is blatantly anti-Trump, the kind of coverage people can easily see through.

Trump knows how to pull people’s chains, and to get the reaction he wants.


32 posted on 11/22/2016, 4:01:13 PM by marktwain

:stonkhat:

quote:

To: TheTimeOfMan

I truly believe that any next civil war will permit - no, REQUIRE the elimination of propaganda sources by any means necessary! They might feel safe in their armored cars and underground bunkers but they’ll never be able to leave them. In time they’ll realize they’re the ones in prison and long for a day in the sun. Then they’ll have to wonder who’s waiting for them.

40 posted on 11/22/2016, 4:14:23 PM by oldfart

quote:

To: mandaladon

The JINOs (Journalists in name only) are partisan hacks who colluded with the DNC and Democrat candidates to rig debates and pretend that they were holding “press conferences” while they actually passed their “Criticisms” to the Rats for State approval.

Just like Hillary, they are corrupt as f***.

Theirs is a disreputable profession and they are lower than scum.

50 posted on 11/22/2016, 4:41:36 PM by a fool in paradise ( Democrats' last peaceful transfer of power was January 1981.)

quote:

To: mandaladon

Awesome!

To work out their anger and “get even” with President Trump,the enemedia will have to add an extra hour to each day so they can attack him 25x7 instead of just 24x7.

Apparently the enemedia still doesn’t get it; namely, they shot their wad and Trump won anyway, and now they are completely irrelevant because President Trump won without them and also can now govern without them, and it matters not what he says or does as they will never say a single kind word about him ever again.

President Trump knows they hate him and will always hate him, so he is under no obligation to play by their rules, but is now free to make up his own rules and simply ignore the enemedia. Technology is such that President Trump can now speak directly to we-the-people without the intervening enemedia reality-distortion filters.

President Trump won and the enemedia lost. Sooner or late (probably sooner), they’re gonna figure that out and they’re also gonna figure out that they made a BIG mistake with their massively biased “reporting”. Big mistake. Big.

51 posted on 11/22/2016, 4:41:44 PM by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)

quote:

To: roadcat

I hate teaser news, which is why I don't watch commercial TV news broadcasts.

I shut those clymers out of my house over 8 years ago. No network television ever since and largely no television of any sort in that time.

No SJW promotions, no libtard communistidans lecturing me why I suck for 3 hours every night, no trailers for revisionist history about Anita Hill and Dan Rather, none of it.

No mall punks quoting a band called Millions of Dead Cops calling Americans "fascists" because they rejected a corrupt antisemite globalist.


56 posted on 11/22/2016, 4:46:52 PM by a fool in paradise ( Democrats' last peaceful transfer of power was January 1981.)

quote:

To: mandaladon

Chuck Todd also retweeted this,... some guy from NYTimes who is defending Comet Ping Pong PedophilePizza.

https://twitter.com/jonathanweisman/status/801093595197382657

It’s sort of funny if it weren’t for the kids. I mean, these idiots haven’t even read the PedoPodesta emails. Either that, or they read them and are scared of what’s being uncovered each and every day.

What kind of person defends pedophilia?


57 posted on 11/22/2016, 4:51:25 PM by Nita Nupress (To Wash DC: America is coming. And we're bringing Galt-Right Donald J. Trump with us.)
Oh by the way, reddit banned /r/pizzagate about three hours ago because their moderators didn't crack down on all the doxxing.

Right then, where was I? Oh yes, :stonklol:

quote:

To: TheTimeOfMan

And after they lose we are going to give them a fair trial right before we shoot them.

If only we could skip the “fair trial” and just hang them.

74 posted on 11/22/2016, 6:49:59 PM by fortes fortuna juvat (Time for the 'TRUMP 2020' yard signs)

I wonder when or even if freep will ever realize that one of the dangers of their "direct to the people" approach is that it's one-way. There's no way to ask questions, especially pointed questions that need to be asked. What kind of speculative bullshit will be be buried in without being able to get those questions asked and answered?

Smeep
Jan 20, 2004

Freep has a PizzaGate tag now, should you really wish to immerse yourself in all the insanity.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Keyser S0ze posted:

One of you brave anti-freeper deep cover operatives need to sneak in there and post a "how old are you?" poll. I'm gonna guess they are not as old as we think they are (40's vs 60's)

If you want to know how hold Freepers are search for a Medicare thread.

Freepers under 50: "You geezers are lazy moochers stealing my hard work"
Freepers 50-55: *slowly dawning realization that no insurance company will take old people at any affordable price*
55+: "I worked hard for my Medicare you keep your government hands off what I got!"

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

McGlockenshire posted:

So I have an unusual one for you. I opened this thread earlier, but just now got around to opening the additional pages, and it's been pulled with the reason "poster's request". You'll have to take my word on the contents.

From the remains of Pope Francis Equates Christianity to Communism posted by freeper Mount Athos


Pope Francis aside, you know this is going to be a poo poo show just because COMMUNISM. These fucks don't read their bibles to see that, they just listen to what their told and pick what they like. Truly if there is a hell, every one of those old bastards will be there

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

McGlockenshire posted:

To: mandaladon

He thinks that they should just report the news....Imagine that.

They make up so much junk, it obliterates the news.

3 posted on 11/22/2016, 3:40:23 PM by Sacajaweau

The best part is they quoted his exact words and showed his speeches in their entire form....reality is a lie I guess.

I've liked some people in the past, and when their flaws were bared I accepted them. I don't understand how you can be so insane as to watch a video of his rallies and then walk away saying the media lied about it. Of course I can't help but picture Trumpers as that one psycho woman that got into it with a protester while he was talking to the media and went on a tangent about them editing it later. Like lady, first of all, your rabid insanity won't be edited because people need to know you're insane. Second of all, no one asked you to mouth off on camera, you just barged your way in and started screaming at it.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

Smeep posted:

Freep has a PizzaGate tag now, should you really wish to immerse yourself in all the insanity.

I'm not even joking this is the most insane thing I've seen this entire election cycle. There's literally nothing there but the alt-right just so desperately wants to put together their stupid Da Vinci code bullshit.

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

The Kyoon-ification of America continues.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

Mantis42 posted:

The Kyoon-ification of America continues.

He was but a harbinger of things to come.

Jagged Jim
Sep 26, 2013

I... I can only look though the window...

Mantis42 posted:

The Kyoon-ification of America continues.

:pusheen:

-Content: Washington Pizza Place Flooded With Threats Over False Hillary Clinton Conspiracy

The worst part about this is that now a bunch of workers are suddenly in the crosshairs of a bunch of rabid lunatics through no fault of their own.

quote:

To: Vince Ferrer

The article fails to mention the bizarre online presence of Comet Pizza which fed the ‘conspiracy theories.’

* The Instagram Account. Post those photos and ask for explanation.

* The Heavy Breathing band / Majestic Ape bizarre posts.

* The artists who did posters for the bands playing there and displayed in the shop.

* Why a guy who owns a pizza joint was listed as one of the most 50 Powerful People in Washington, D.C.

3 posted on 11/22/2016 8:22:36 AM PST by TigerClaws
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I want to believe

quote:

To: TigerClaws

I fully believe that our Washington elites are mixed-up in a global child sex abuse ring.

Whether or not this guy’s pizza joint is part of it is a sidebar issue.

4 posted on 11/22/2016 8:23:13 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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quote:

To: TigerClaws

A fake story published before the presidential election

Fake but accurate?

5 posted on 11/22/2016 8:23:18 AM PST by itsahoot (Three words I don't want to hear is Comprehensive Immigration Reform.)
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By jove Watson, a clue!

quote:

To: TigerClaws

even his name says, in french, that he loves infants.
what is the co-incidence?

8 posted on 11/22/2016 8:24:30 AM PST by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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No, you're the fake news!

quote:

To: TigerClaws

This article is effin FAKE NEWS. They get the story wrong (strawman) and do not bother to mention any of the grotesqe stuff discovered about these characters.

9 posted on 11/22/2016 8:25:00 AM PST by pissant ((Deport 'em all))
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"Good thing he has that side business to fall back on! :razz:" Yeah, gently caress you!

quote:

To: TigerClaws

It’s killing his business... Then again, his sales of ‘real’ pizza products has likely increased in comparison to last years sales.

12 posted on 11/22/2016 8:26:55 AM PST by jerod (Pro-Abortion Gun Control Freaks & Environmental Nuts who hated Capitalism? The Nazi's)
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quote:

To: editor-surveyor

Keyword: FAKE NEWS.

16 posted on 11/22/2016 8:31:17 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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quote:

To: UCANSEE2

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Yes, we need to use that constantly so we can gather all these examples of Jackboot Journalism.
.

20 posted on 11/22/2016 8:37:33 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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quote:

To: TigerClaws

This is the new birtherism. It will be derided and used to marginalize. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof, but none will be forthcoming.

18 posted on 11/22/2016 8:35:59 AM PST by Homer1
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quote:

To: Homer1

KimDotCom claims big reveals are coming once Trump is in power.

Waiting until there’s a changing of the guard before the files are released.

Kim might be full of it, but we shall see.

It’d take a leak of, for example, the Weiner computer files to expose something this high up. Nothing short of that would do it.

21 posted on 11/22/2016 8:37:49 AM PST by TigerClaws
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quote:

To: Diogenesis

even his name says, in french, that he loves infants. what is the co-incidence?

Is the French translation of his name true? If not strictly literal, I realize it's too close. The subtle but erotic symbolism at the stores within the plaza are also suspiciously suggestive.

By itself, his name is a coincidence; conflated with the Podesta emails, the Epstein activities and participants, the obvious but sloppy coding, the cast of other unsavory related characters -- how many odd coincidences and transparent perversity are we supposed to dismiss without being accused of "idiocy" and "paranoia" by one particular in-curious poster?

SMOKE = FIRE.

25 posted on 11/22/2016 8:40:26 AM PST by HangUpNow
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quote:

To: Stentor

Post election the elites looked around and decided to blame the internet for Hillary losing. They can’t control the narrative with sites like Drudge, Breitbart, Free Republic, etc.

Call them “fake news” and say it is a crisis. That’ll justify Twitter and Facebook bans and maybe ban the sites as well once the U.N. takes over the net for promoting ‘hate speech.’

Remember, internet is now global and we are one of the few countries protected by something like the First Amendment. For now.

I think they misjudged using this as a ‘fake news’ story to spin but look at the approach:

1. Online people are promoting it.

2. Create Jimmy Comet as the victim being attacked by online trolls. Phone calls. Damaging his business. Victim.

3. Give ZERO facts in the story but use Alinsky-style naming and shaming: Conspiracy, false, lies, not true, fake news.

I think they made a BIG miscalculation picking this specific story to use as a test run for ‘fake news’ slamming.

People will google the facts. Photos/images (the Instagram, ‘art’, bands) = SUPER creepy stuff.

It’ll only make it a bigger story. Putting out fire with gasoline.

27 posted on 11/22/2016 8:43:39 AM PST by TigerClaws
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quote:

To: TigerClaws

Un-believably creepy.

GUILTY.

33 posted on 11/22/2016 8:50:51 AM PST by HangUpNow
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quote:

To: TigerClaws

I was wondering if the incessant parroting of talking points by the captured whore media would diminish after the election. Apparently not.

Girls and boys, today’s talking point is “Fake News”.

See how harmful the “fake news” sites that interfered with the captured media cover-up of Clinton’s many crimes are? We must censor them and deprive them of all revenue. It’s for our own good.

Think of the (trafficked) children!

34 posted on 11/22/2016 8:50:52 AM PST by Junk Silver
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They're still going on about the dude's last name!

quote:

To: HangUpNow

I tried to look up the French translation, and got a link that says his name is an anagram of “j’aime les enfants”, or I love infants. I haven’t checked to see if that’s correct.

49 posted on 11/22/2016 9:18:27 AM PST by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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quote:

To: NetAddicted
Thanks.

Close enough of a interpretation to telegraph intent and perversion AND "inside joke" to all his fellow pedos.

This demonic freak MUST be brought to justice. Along with every one of his sick cadre of dungeon perves. I'll bet he and a number of associates leave the country before Jan 20.
56 posted on 11/22/2016 9:25:20 AM PST by HangUpNow
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quote:

To: pissant

I’ve seen three MSM articles now “debunking” what the Reddit boys have deemed Pizzagate.

The principles are in Panic Node. GOOD. This ain't going away...which is exactly why The MSM mercs are circling the wagon. Expect 'Snopes' to weigh in soon.

Yeah, let the Reddit Boys get interviewed, starting during the week of Jan 20. Would LOVE for the incoming DoJ to be cut loose on this action. Chances are the files are already thick. I hope they aren't shredded or Bleach-Bit before justice prevails.

59 posted on 11/22/2016 9:31:37 AM PST by HangUpNow
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quote:

To: Diogenesis

Sorry, it doesn't. If it did it would be spelled differently.

I read the story you likely got the idea from.

The author claims his name, James Alefantis, is an Anglicization of "J'aime les enfants" meaning "I love the children."

I think this is more than a stretch when you consider the way the French and the English names are pronounced. "J'aime les enfants" sounds like "Jay*mee laze*awn*fawnt". His name in English is pronounced "James Ah*le*FAHN*tis".

I think the similarity is likely coincidental. I also didn't find any evidence that this was the result of a name change. If it was it was a VERY stupid move.

"Ceterum censeo Islam esse delendam."

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)
LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

61 posted on 11/22/2016 9:33:57 AM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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quote:

To: LonePalm
I think the similarity is likely coincidental. I also didn't find any evidence that this was the result of a name change. If it was it was a VERY stupid move.

Thank you for weighing in on the French language issue.

We could speculate that it could be a "stage name" or just a slight play on words. Since he is in the US, the spelling would be more striking than the pronunciation.

Considering the several disturbing coincidences, strange Instagrams, odd symbolism of the nearby stores and shops, the Podesta email tie-ins, related cast of evil characters, AND usual arrogance and hubris of these types of people, I'd NOT give the benefit of doubt. The name at minimum is purposely suggestive, if not oddly coincidental.

It's these types of peoples' way of tweaking society as a pervy "inside joke" for similar sick ilk.
65 posted on 11/22/2016 9:52:26 AM PST by HangUpNow
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quote:

To: TigerClaws

I think that all we need to do is look at those trying to push that it is fake news to find others that are involved in Pedo ring.

67 posted on 11/22/2016 9:59:54 AM PST by PCPOET7
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There is always more and it is always worse.

a neurotic ai
Mar 22, 2012

quote:

To: polymuser

“Democrats , unions and unfaithful (to other Americans) car buyers and exec’s destroyed Detroit. Same for Pontiac, Flint and Saginaw.”

The Government of Japan, in collaboration with the Japanese auto industry, destroyed Detroit.

One country’s industry might be able to compete with another country’s, but no industrial sector can compete with the wealth and power of an entire advanced country.

This is especially true when its own country is convulsing and barfing in its eagerness to advantage the foreign industry and hamstring its own.

Democrats , unions and unfaithful consumers played a role, certainly, but it was a deliberate assassination by the Japanese.

This is the sort of thing Trump has promised to correct.

44 posted on 11/22/2016, 1:54:42 PM by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)

Lol.. Japan killed the US car industry by producing a better product you serial moron. Fuel prices went up, and people couldn't afford to purchase or run the gigantic monstrosities the Americans were building. Japanese cars were significantly cheaper and more efficient. Free market sucks when it works against you doesn't it?

MattD1zzl3
Oct 26, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 4 years!
That one freeper correcting to vote by 3 million votes got me thinking. What actually does stop illegal immigrants from voting? I'm thinking in states without voter ID laws. I'm sure it's a stupid question but Googling doesn't work because the internet is too plugged up with bullshit conspiracy theories

Thanks in advance, and for the record I don't think this is a real problem, just curious.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

Jagged Jim posted:

They're still going on about the dude's last name!

They think bond villains are real life.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

MattD1zzl3 posted:

That one freeper correcting to vote by 3 million votes got me thinking. What actually does stop illegal immigrants from voting? I'm thinking in states without voter ID laws. I'm sure it's a stupid question but Googling doesn't work because the internet is too plugged up with bullshit conspiracy theories

Thanks in advance, and for the record I don't think this is a real problem, just curious.

You have to be registered to vote. And they record when you vote so the same voter can't vote twice.

You can't just walk across the border and into a voting booth no questions asked. I guess 3 million illegals could have murdered 3 million Americans and pretended to be them at the polls but you'd think their families and coworkers would notice and report them missing.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

VitalSigns posted:

You have to be registered to vote. And they record when you vote so the same voter can't vote twice.

You can't just walk across the border and into a voting booth no questions asked. I guess 3 million illegals could have murdered 3 million Americans and pretended to be them at the polls but you'd think their families and coworkers would notice and report them missing.

Look at this guy not knowing how White Genocide works.

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

VitalSigns posted:

You have to be registered to vote. And they record when you vote so the same voter can't vote twice.

You can't just walk across the border and into a voting booth no questions asked. I guess 3 million illegals could have murdered 3 million Americans and pretended to be them at the polls but you'd think their families and coworkers would notice and report them missing.

Voter registration isn't a thing in most of the world, how does it work? Do you need an ID or a birth certificate or something to register?

MattD1zzl3
Oct 26, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 4 years!

Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:

Voter registration isn't a thing in most of the world, how does it work? Do you need an ID or a birth certificate or something to register?


Forums user vitalsigns helped me distill my question into googlable form: "What stops illegal immigrants from registering to vote", I know they are stopped somehow but i never looked into the details of it. It'll be useful to have in your quiver this thanksgiving. I assumed in the past "show your drivers licence" was the answer but in recent years this has been a charged political (and apperantly racial) issue.


Here is what usa.gov has to say, to answer your question Rasberry:

USA.gov/voter-id posted:

Voting with ID
About half of the states with voter ID laws accept only photo IDs, such as driver’s licenses, state-issued ID cards, military ID cards, and passports. Many of these states now offer a free voter photo ID card if you don’t have another form of valid photo ID.

Other states accept certain types of non-photo IDs, such as birth certificates, Social Security cards, bank statements, and utility bills. Each state is specific about the documents it will accept as proof of identification. Be sure you know your state’s voter ID requirements prior to Election Day.

You should also be aware that legal challenges continue to affect some states’ voter ID laws, and requirements can change as a result. It’s always wise to check directly with your state election office to ensure you have the proper ID.

Procedures for Voting Without ID

Even if you don’t have a form of ID that your state asks for, you may be allowed to vote. But some states require you to take additional measures after you vote to make sure that your vote counts.

Some states may ask you to sign a form affirming your identity. Other states will let you cast a provisional ballot, which is used when there is a question regarding a voter's eligibility. In some states, election officials will investigate the voter’s eligibility and decide whether to count the vote.

Other states require that you return to an election office within a few days and show an acceptable form of ID. If you don’t, your vote won’t be counted.


But i think that noncitizens/illegals can get military ID and social security cards in some capacity, so if they can display those something else must be stopping them from voting.

MattD1zzl3 fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Nov 23, 2016

Gounads
Mar 13, 2013

Where am I?
How did I get here?

MattD1zzl3 posted:

Forums user vitalsigns helped me distill my question into googlable form: "What stops illegal immigrants from registering to vote", I know they are stopped somehow but i never looked into the details of it. It'll be useful to have in your quiver this thanksgiving. I assumed in the past "show your drivers licence" was the answer but in recent years this has been a charged political (and apperantly racial) issue.


Here is what usa.gov has to say, to answer your question Rasberry:



But i think that noncitizens/illegals can get military ID and social security cards in some capacity, so if they can display those something else must be stopping them from voting.

Mostly, the fact that voter fraud is a felony. Why would a non-citizen register and vote when someone could just look at the 'who voted' rolls and throw them in jail?

Cape Cod Crab Chip
Feb 20, 2011

Now you don't have to suck meat from an exoskeleton!
Wait, wait. They think "podesta" means kiddy diddler in French? It doesn't. It straight up doesn't.

e: Alefantis either! Not even loving close to close!

Keeshhound
Jan 14, 2010

Mad Duck Swagger

Darkman Fanpage posted:

Look at this guy not knowing how White Genocide works.

All I know is that when I came into work on the 9th, three of my coworkers had gotten dark tans, grown moustaches, were wearing ponchos and sombreros, and were speaking with really thick mexican accents, but I didn't say anything in case people thought I was a racist.

Cape Cod Crab Chip posted:

Wait, wait. They think "podesta" means kiddy diddler in French? It doesn't. It straight up doesn't.

What gets me is that they seem to take it as a given that sex with children is just this unbelievably amazing thing that of course the elites in Washington all just can't get enough of, and have to create vast secret conspiracies to maintain their access to it.

Keeshhound fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Nov 23, 2016

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Keeshhound posted:

What gets me is that they seem to take it as a given that sex with children is just this unbelievably amazing thing that of course the elites in Washington all just can't get enough of, and have to create vast secret conspiracies to maintain their access to it.
It's more likely that there's a small number of high up child abusers in Washington and a surrounding organization that is covering for them to lesser or greater degrees, like with the BBC or Penn State.

Keeshhound
Jan 14, 2010

Mad Duck Swagger

Guavanaut posted:

It's more likely that there's a small number of high up child abusers in Washington and a surrounding organization that is covering for them to lesser or greater degrees, like with the BBC or Penn State.

Right, but the way they talk about it, you'd think that literally everyone in Washington was a chomo.

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
That's because they think that they are righteous and incorruptible, and don't understand how evidence or systems of power work, so they believe "if I suspected my boss was a molester I'd rain holy judgement on them, unless of course it was a smear, in which case I'd know 100%"
Which being fair isn't unique to Freep, plenty of people acted like that in the wake of the BBC or Penn State.

When you combine that with 'Liberals are godless and evil and love sodomy which means they want to legalize pedophilia' that Freep believes, suddenly the obvious explanation for the first part is that everyone in DC is on the pedobus.

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