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paternity suitor posted:More importantly - Okafor is the worst defensive center isn't he? Jah is bad on pnr but he's real solid in the post and getting better on help He had a couple of great plays last night on d .
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Paul Zuvella posted:If you want to buy an apple, but there are no apples around to buy, then you don't go out and buy a pile of poo poo instead for the same price. That's actually not always the answer because of the way the salary cap works. Oftentimes your operating budget going forward will be the same regardless of whether or not you buy the poo poo, so you might as well buy the poo poo in case there's an apple underneath it all
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The bigger problem is the same problem with Noah and Mosgov's deal, which is giving 4 years.
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Rick here's the link to the flop that made Hasseltine trip out https://twitter.com/bleacherreport/status/801636482272215040
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Papercut posted:That's actually not always the answer because of the way the salary cap works. Oftentimes your operating budget going forward will be the same regardless of whether or not you buy the poo poo, so you might as well buy the poo poo in case there's an apple underneath it all Definitely but the problem in this specific instance is Evan Turner is a known locker room menace and is probably doing more harm than good. Like, nobody likes Evan Turner. He's hilarious but everyone hates him. It's probably better to pay out the extra money to your guys and have their morale jump up like an RPG
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tanglewood1420 posted:Timberwolves are a good bad team. A team you kinda like?
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Unironic Ricky Davis love is the weirdest thing in the world to me.
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It seems like a really bad omen that a young guy like Russell is getting a treatment generally attached to old guys trying to eke out a few more years or Brandon Roy.
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Cool Buff Man posted:Definitely but the problem in this specific instance is Evan Turner is a known locker room menace and is probably doing more harm than good. Like, nobody likes Evan Turner. He's hilarious but everyone hates him. It's probably better to pay out the extra money to your guys and have their morale jump up like an RPG Yeah, I hated the signing at the time and so far I've seen nothing to change that opinion. I think the Crabbe contact will prove to be tradeable but they'll be stuck with Turner unless an amnesty provision shows up.
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leftist heap posted:It seems like a really bad omen that a young guy like Russell is getting a treatment generally attached to old guys trying to eke out a few more years or Brandon Roy. Brandon Roy did not play long enough to be considered old even by NBA standards. He's only 32 now.
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Am I stupid or is OKC trading for Rudy Gay an extremely dumb idea? Even if they somehow make a trade that works out for them, then what? They make the... 4th seed? Maybe? But probably not? And even then potentially don't make it out of the first round. Not that I think OKC should be particularly attached to someone like Cam Payne or whatever, but I don't really get the point of making a rental trade that will most likely do absolutely nothing for the course of your season. I guess it might make the Thunder marginally less painful to watch.
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Henchman of Santa posted:Brandon Roy did not play long enough to be considered old even by NBA standards. He's only 32 now. That's probably why he said "or."
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IcePhoenix posted:That's probably why he said "or." Ah, my brain replaced it with "like"
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Sacramento should trade Rudy Gay because every team that trades Rudy Gay gets better immediately and makes the playoffs against all odds.
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leftist heap posted:Am I stupid or is OKC trading for Rudy Gay an extremely dumb idea? Even if they somehow make a trade that works out for them, then what? They make the... 4th seed? Maybe? But probably not? And even then potentially don't make it out of the first round. Not that I think OKC should be particularly attached to someone like Cam Payne or whatever, but I don't really get the point of making a rental trade that will most likely do absolutely nothing for the course of your season. I guess it might make the Thunder marginally less painful to watch. Rudy Gay is bad and getting rid of him cleared the way for the Grit and Grind Grizzlies we all know and love
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leftist heap posted:Am I stupid or is OKC trading for Rudy Gay an extremely dumb idea? Even if they somehow make a trade that works out for them, then what? They make the... 4th seed? Maybe? But probably not? And even then potentially don't make it out of the first round. Not that I think OKC should be particularly attached to someone like Cam Payne or whatever, but I don't really get the point of making a rental trade that will most likely do absolutely nothing for the course of your season. I guess it might make the Thunder marginally less painful to watch. VS doing what? I think they'd be able to hold on to Gay if they get him, and if you think you have a shot at improving your playoff position you do that and hope something breaks the right way to make you a contender. They won't have the cap space to sign a max guy, and it'll be a tough sell in OKC next to Westbrook anyway. At this point OKC is going to try to improve as much as they can every year. There really isn't another realistic route, and 4th seed in the West is really good!
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As a fan of a perennial loser, I don't understand the "whelp we've maxed out as a fourth seed time to blow it up" mentality. Gay is a fine player if you utilize him correctly. Mike Malone and Joerger are good coaches and got good results from him. Casey and Karl are bad coaches. He's not a LeBron or even Iso Joe so don't treat him like one. All it would take from OKC is probably Payne, which I don't think is that much.
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WhyteRyce posted:As a fan of a perennial loser, I don't understand the "whelp we've maxed out as a fourth seed time to blow it up" mentality. I don't understand that mentality either
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Rudy Gay is like Al Jefferson and a bunch of other dudes. He seems like a borderline allstar but he's been consistently inconsistent as one of the best paid players on so many mediocre squads that it's sensible to think that the mediocrity is something he brings with him. He's always going to be overpriced and his midrange skillset is out of date.
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Lockback posted:VS doing what? I think they'd be able to hold on to Gay if they get him, and if you think you have a shot at improving your playoff position you do that and hope something breaks the right way to make you a contender. They won't have the cap space to sign a max guy, and it'll be a tough sell in OKC next to Westbrook anyway. I think 4th seed in the west is really good too. I'm not sure Rudy Gay gets them there. You're right that they don't really have many options going forward. It just feels like such a coin flip trade and that makes me lean towards not doing it.
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Papercut posted:Yeah, I hated the signing at the time and so far I've seen nothing to change that opinion. I think the Crabbe contact will prove to be tradeable but they'll be stuck with Turner unless an amnesty provision shows up. Man, an amnesty provision would provide such great entertainment. I want it for that, if nothing else. Make it so
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EvanTH posted:Rudy Gay is like Al Jefferson and a bunch of other dudes. He seems like a borderline allstar but he's been consistently inconsistent as one of the best paid players on so many mediocre squads that it's sensible to think that the mediocrity is something he brings with him. He's always going to be overpriced and his midrange skillset is out of date. He's on a very reasonable contract right now. He'll be a free agent next season but he's already taken one team friendly deal to play for a coach he really liked and he might do it again after Basketball Hell 2.0
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WhyteRyce posted:As a fan of a perennial loser, I don't understand the "whelp we've maxed out as a fourth seed time to blow it up" mentality. Depends on the conference and the tiers. I posted the same thing back when the Raptors were bad. Nowadays they're a good team by eastern standards, but clearly a tier below actual contenders and don't have any discernible path to contention. Should they blow it up? I don't think so, not when we've got a chance for the conference finals. But I can see why some people might push for it. Usually it takes a few things going to kick off a chain reaction instead of a conscious decision to explode. Right now I'm cool with it, but if we can't resign Lowry over the summer I might take a tear down over having Derozan dragging us to the 7th seed. Or maybe we can develop young talent around him while also being a low seed, who knows. There's a whole lotta luck and heuristics involved.
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WhyteRyce posted:He's on a very reasonable contract right now. He'll be a free agent next season but he's already taken one team friendly deal to play for a coach he really liked and he might do it again after Basketball Hell 2.0 Plus I don't see the market falling over itself to sign him either. The cap won't increase much next year, so I think OKC can get him in the 12-15 mil a year range. Con: his last name might make some Oklahoma fans uncomfortable.
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Gay can make buckets play defense and play the 3 get him on the teamLockback posted:Con: his last name might make some Oklahoma fans uncomfortable. The sooner stadium is called Gaylord Family Oklahoma Memorial Stadium so it won't be a problem
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Lockback posted:Plus I don't see the market falling over itself to sign him either. The cap won't increase much next year, so I think OKC can get him in the 12-15 mil a year range. There's no way Rudy Gay is getting less than Deng. Wings that can shoot and play the 4 are like the highest tier of FA for role players.
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WhyteRyce posted:As a fan of a perennial loser, I don't understand the "whelp we've maxed out as a fourth seed time to blow it up" mentality.
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Trading for Rudy Gay is about as smart as trading for Jeff Green.
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R.D. Mangles posted:these must be western conference fans because there's literally no point to the eastern conference playoffs until lebron retires You say that, but if Lebron were to get injured (humour me here) then Toronto, Boston, Atlanta, Charlotte could all win a series against the Cavs and it'd be a real dogfight to get to the finals for the honour to be dismantled by the Warriors in 5. It's hard to win a championship and it often has a lot of luck involved even if you are a really really good team, so if you have even a slim shot you have to be ready to take it when it arrives.
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Unrelated to anything, I really thought Anderson and Gordon's performance would be reversed. Gordon's been great and looks like an early 6MOTY candidate, Anderson has been pretty dicey. His 3pt shooting is alright but he's basically having career lows in every other way. The Raptors game really demonstrated the need for a real point guard to spell Harden. Morey's gonna have to do a magic trick at the trade deadline. chunkles fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Nov 24, 2016 |
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Fine I'll say it, happy thanksgiving ya numbskulls I am thankful for all y'all and for my Memphis Grizzlies
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