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Shangri-Law School posted:The Lions will take out Seattle in the divisional round then host the Giants for the NFC Championship Game. Since the Packers a trash fire this year, I am supporting the Lions in all of their endeavours
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My friends, it will indeed be the Cincinnati Bengals that will give the Browns their first win. It'll be in Cleveland, too. The people will go loving nuts. Women will get pregnant.
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Nov 26, 2016 02:11
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shirts and skins posted:Hmm. I think this team is markedly better than last year's, and probably about as good as 2014. They're pretty on par with what they've been putting out. They lost Lynch, but Wilson and Baldwin keep getting better together. The defense is the defense, it really hasn't changed much at all (except for this coming weekend with all the hamstring absences). Seattle is a lot worse than 2014. They are an above average team, but the NFC is such a tire fire this year that they look better than they are. There are a lot of bad teams in the NFL the last couple years, which is why ok, but not great teams are getting a tons of wins (see: Raiders).
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Nov 26, 2016 02:17
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No Irish Need Imply posted:My friends, it will indeed be the Cincinnati Bengals that will give the Browns their first win. It'll be in Cleveland, too. The people will go loving nuts. Women will get pregnant. Thank God my wife is not a Browns fan.
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Nov 26, 2016 02:23
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MrLogan posted:Seattle is a lot worse than 2014. They are an above average team, but the NFC is such a tire fire this year that they look better than they are. Why? What personnel are different/worse enough that you can say they are "a lot worse"? From my eyes, they lost some overpriced o linemen (woo JR Sweezy) and Lynch, got better at WR, TE, and CB, and have basically stayed pat with everything else.
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shirts and skins posted:Why? What personnel are different/worse enough that you can say they are "a lot worse"? From my eyes, they lost some overpriced o linemen (woo JR Sweezy) and Lynch, got better at WR, TE, and CB, and have basically stayed pat with everything else. They lack depth, so one or two injuries seriously affect the defense because they had to let some of their good players go to afford to pay other good players. The offensive line probably worse, somehow. They aren't great at pressuring QBs. The passing game is somewhat improved, but they don't have a running like Lynch that can close out games. Lack of depth and being hugely dependent of Wilson being mobile enough to escape constant pressure are what really hurt them though.
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Nov 26, 2016 02:53
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Lol
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No Irish Need Imply posted:My friends, it will indeed be the Cincinnati Bengals that will give the Browns their first win. It'll be in Cleveland, too. The people will go loving nuts. Women will get pregnant. That's a weird way of spelling Burfict will murder 2 QBs and Pryor will wildcat into a td.
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Nov 26, 2016 03:11
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big money big clit posted:They lack depth, so one or two injuries seriously affect the defense because they had to let some of their good players go to afford to pay other good players. The offensive line probably worse, somehow. They aren't great at pressuring QBs. The passing game is somewhat improved, but they don't have a running like Lynch that can close out games. All of those things existed in 2014, which is why Brady shat all over them in SB 49 once Avril went down with a concussion. I'm not exactly weeping for the loss of Bruce Irvin. And yeah, Wilson being mobile enough to escape constant pressure is what's kept the team afloat since at least 2012. This team has issues for sure, but they are by no means different or categorically worse than the ones affecting their teams in the other post-championship years. e. ANYWAY sorry for that derail. What's the deal with the Giants? Are they actually decent, or is this one of those "won four games that maybe should have been losses" teams?
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Nov 26, 2016 03:14
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shirts and skins posted:This team has issues for sure, but they are by no means different or categorically worse than the ones affecting their teams in the other post-championship years. I don't know that they're substantially worse this year, but the 2014 defense was better by basically every measure. They allowed fewer yards and points per game and had more sacks.
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Nov 26, 2016 03:36
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big money big clit posted:I don't know that they're substantially worse this year, but the 2014 defense was better by basically every measure. They allowed fewer yards and points per game and had more sacks. The defense is still good, it's just not legendarily good. As it turns out, just having the same players doesn't mean the same results. Guys get older, have up and down years, etc. Also the special teams are worse this year than in previous years. That 2012 ST unit in particular was insanely good. shirts and skins posted:All of those things existed in 2014, which is why Brady shat all over them in SB 49 once Avril went down with a concussion. I'm not exactly weeping for the loss of Bruce Irvin. It's hard to tell. Eli is a good QB and OBJ is one of the best WRs in the league, but the offensive line isn't great, the run game is pretty bad, and it's really hard to gauge the defense. They seem to be playing better, but that sudden uptick in productivity coincides with a 4-game stint against the Rams, Eagles, Bengals, and Bears, and it'll likely continue against the Browns this weekend. They're probably equal parts "lucky," "above average," and "playing an easy schedule," all totaling to "a previously unlikely playoff berth."
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Nov 26, 2016 03:57
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a resounding counter argument. you win the day, good sir
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Nov 26, 2016 05:10
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big money big clit posted:They lack depth, so one or two injuries seriously affect the defense because they had to let some of their good players go to afford to pay other good players. The offensive line probably worse, somehow. They aren't great at pressuring QBs. The passing game is somewhat improved, but they don't have a running like Lynch that can close out games. A healthy Rawls is better than 2014 Lynch as a runningback, but probably not in pass protection. Cliff Avril is one of the sack leaders this season and that's without a healthy Bennett to wreak havoc on o lines. If, and that's definitely a big if, the team gets healthy for the playoffs they will be an absolute buzzsaw.
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TheChirurgeon posted:It's hard to tell. Eli is a good QB and OBJ is one of the best WRs in the league, but the offensive line isn't great, the run game is pretty bad, and it's really hard to gauge the defense. They seem to be playing better, but that sudden uptick in productivity coincides with a 4-game stint against the Rams, Eagles, Bengals, and Bears, and it'll likely continue against the Browns this weekend. They're probably equal parts "lucky," "above average," and "playing an easy schedule," all totaling to "a previously unlikely playoff berth." The Giants defense is the only reason they're winning games. It hasn't showed up in the statistics because they're basically always on the field. Total yardage has them 20th in passing yards allowed but 9th in Yards per Attempt. They're pretty stout against the run (8th and 5th, respectively). I would hardly characterize their defense as great - they still get beat plenty down the field. But they're very capable, especially in the secondary. The pass rush is also starting to come along after weeks or being dormant. Their offense has been nothing but underwhelming (the blame goes all around there). Fortunately, the guns they have at receiver have done just enough to win. If their offense can ever get it together (I don't suspect they will because McAdoo is in over his head), they could be fairly dangerous.
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corn on the cop posted:The Giants defense is the only reason they're winning games. It hasn't showed up in the statistics because they're basically always on the field. Total yardage has them 20th in passing yards allowed but 9th in Yards per Attempt. They're pretty stout against the run (8th and 5th, respectively). Yeah but again, their "defense is also starting to come along" just so happens to have occurred "while playing some terrible offenses." The best indicator we have of the Giants' defense being good is the week 1 game vs. Dallas, but it looks like the Dallas offense has improved significantly since then (and played better against the Ravens and Eagles). The Steelers' game will be a good test of whether they are Actually Good or just Playing Bad Offenses. After the Browns the Giants are going to have the roughest stretch of their season, and at this point no outcome between 5-0 and 0-5 for their remaining games would surprise me.
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Nov 26, 2016 15:15
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blue squares posted:a resounding counter argument. you win the day, good sir It's a lot more than he'll be contributing in February
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Nov 26, 2016 17:17
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I dunno Convince me Seattle doesn't get beat up
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Nov 26, 2016 18:25
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Amy Pole Her posted:I dunno You will have to wait until January to eat your crow, just like all the other Dallas fans
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Nov 26, 2016 18:29
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The Bills will probably win tomorrow.
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Nov 26, 2016 18:35
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God seeing how cocky Seahawks fans are reminds me I'm so mad we lost at the last second
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Nov 26, 2016 18:40
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fsif posted:The Bills will probably win tomorrow. gently caress yeah whagon has no breaks
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Nov 26, 2016 18:39
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Amy Pole Her posted:God seeing how cocky Seahawks fans are reminds me I'm so mad we lost at the last second 
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Amy Pole Her posted:God seeing how cocky Seahawks fans are reminds me I'm so mad we lost at the last second It should also remind you how certain Seattle posters vanish the second their team loses
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Nov 26, 2016 18:51
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Growing up in Seattle kind of inures you to losing. Maybe the recent bandwagoners are californians who came for the tech boom
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got any sevens posted:Growing up in Seattle kind of inures you to losing. Maybe the recent bandwagoners are californians who came for the tech boom uhh sure and not the 6 year stretch of .637 ball and a super bowl win
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Nov 26, 2016 19:36
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the last time the seahawks finished in last place in their division was 1996
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Nov 26, 2016 19:44
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hasselbeck and wilson have 6 pro bowls between them which is probably better than any other team in the nfc west for recent qb success
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Nov 26, 2016 19:47
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hifi posted:which is probably better than any other team in the nfc west for recent qb success way to set the bar high
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hifi posted:hasselbeck and wilson have 6 pro bowls between them which is probably better than any other team in the nfc west for recent qb success I mean if you think that Jeff Garcia Tim Rattay Ken Dorsey Alex Smith Cody Pickett Shaun Hill Chris Weinke Trent Dilfer JT O'Sullivan Troy Smith David Carr Colin Kaepernick Blaine Gabbert corpse of Kurt Warner Marc Bulger Jamie Martin Scott Covington Chris Chandler Ryan Fitzpatrick Gus Frerotte Brock Berlin Trent Green Kyle Boller Keith Null Sam Bradford AJ Feeley Kellen Clemens Austin Davis Shaun Hill (again!) Nick Foles Case Keenum Jared Goff Jake Plummer Josh McCown Jeff Blake Shaun King John Navarre bad Kurt Warner (again!) Matt Leinart Tim Rattay (again!) GOOD KURT WARNER!!! (2008 & 2009) Derek Anderson John Skelton Max Hall Kevin Kolb Ryan Lindley Brian Hoyer Carson Palmer Drew Stanton Logan Thomas Isn't a murderers row then I don't know what to tell you.
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That is totally a murderer's row...in that lots of fans wish they were murdered instead of watching those guys play for their team.
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Nov 26, 2016 20:16
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whypick1 posted:That is totally a murderer's row...in that lots of fans wish they were murdered instead of watching those guys play for their team. skelton/hall/lindley is the new tinkers/evers/chance doncha know
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Nov 26, 2016 20:25
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Spoeank posted:I mean if you think that Well us seattlers are just losers though
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Spoeank posted:I mean if you think that I tried to figure out the saddest player on this list and my brain gave up and shut down in defeat
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Nov 26, 2016 20:40
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look, man, don't besmirch the name of Jake Plummer
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Aye Doc posted:I tried to figure out the saddest player on this list and my brain gave up and shut down in defeat Ahhhh, I see. In the medical field that's referred to as getting "Kevin Kolbed".
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Aye Doc posted:I tried to figure out the saddest player on this list and my brain gave up and shut down in defeat Probably Cody Pickett, who was more renowned for his rodeo skills than his QB play (16.4 QB rating!)
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a neat cape posted:look, man, don't besmirch the name of Jake Plummer American handball legend Jake "Jake the snake Roberts" plummer
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corn on the cop posted:Probably Cody Pickett, who was more renowned for his rodeo skills than his QB play (16.4 QB rating!) 10 attempts isn't very many. they were an especially lovely set, but is that enough longevity to be the saddest? let's look at some competitors how about Keith Null, whose own name has doomed him? 119 attempts, and a surprising 61.3% completion percentage that looks less impressive if you include his 9 passes caught by the other team and his 141.5 yards per game average, 3.67 net yards per attempt, sacked 1 in 10 times attempting to pass, 7.6 interception percentage, an 8.4 QBR. all of those numbers are so disgusting and depressing but then you look at Max Hall, and he was sacked 15.2% of the time he dropped back. his net yards per attempt was 3.04. his adjusted net yards per attempt was 0.33! he averaged 61.7 yards per game. 7.7 interception percent. a 6.07 QBR! and you know what? I know there are worse. I don't want to dig any deeper
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The not at all fraudulent Seahawks, a team that has defeated exactly one quality opponent, is sure to win a Super Bowl.
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Spoeank posted:I mean if you think that God I remember Tim Rattay. He always ALWAYS threw an INT that would seal the deal for our team. Chris Weinke.. I dont' even remember that one. I probably blocked that out.
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