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First two seasons they ration everything. Paris talks about saving his replicator rations for two weeks to make a necklace for Kes, and I think Kim uses two weeks to make his clarinet. Then later, who the gently caress cares! Everyone replicate yourself some costumes so we can go gently caress holofolk in the Irish town program that's running 24/7 for some reason!
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Data Graham posted:leaving him to have to write a whole Season 5 of filler jms posted:I don't usually comment on this, but...if I had known *with absolute certainty* that there would be a season 5, then season 4 would have ended with 418, "Intersections in Real Time." So you only pull 4 episodes forward, really. You'll understand when you see it.
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MorgaineDax posted:Picard would have taken that deal.  
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dont even fink about it posted:If you're not cool with your acting career dying after Trek, you should not sign up for Trek. I was referring to Robert Leeshock who left Earth Final Cornflake between seasons 4 and 5 because he was trying to land the lead on Enterprise. The EFC producers told him he there was no coming back if he left. He pursued the Trek role anyways and when it didn't happen his career was pretty much over. But had he gotten the role of Archer he would indeed still be "working."
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Rhyno posted:I was referring to Robert Leeshock who left Earth Final Cornflake between seasons 4 and 5 because he was trying to land the lead on Enterprise. The EFC producers told him he there was no coming back if he left. He pursued the Trek role anyways and when it didn't happen his career was pretty much over. But had he gotten the role of Archer he would indeed still be "working." What are you talking about? He was great in this, just last year: http://imdb.com/rg/an_share/title/title/tt3973814/
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Aw man. Ron Glass, the guy who played Shepherd Book on Firefly, has died.  (And since this is the Star Trek thread, he apparently also guest starred in a Voyager episode I never actually saw.)
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GutBomb posted:What are you talking about? He was great in this, just last year: I really want to watch that. Edit: Welp. Just got to the BORG episode of Enterprise and holy poo poo this is terrible. Rhyno fucked around with this message at 01:40 on Nov 27, 2016 |
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Powered Descent posted:Aw man. Ron Glass, the guy who played Shepherd Book on Firefly, has died. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoQ6ZC8EUQ0 Pay attention to the t-shirts.
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Rhyno posted:I really want to watch that. Oh hey check out our new prequel show it's new and different and it's got stuff you've never seen before *sweeps arrives, they double down on a loving Borg episode* It wouldn't have mattered if the episode was good or bad, the fact that they did it at all was just another slap in the face
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Mister Kingdom posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoQ6ZC8EUQ0 The 80s Twilight Zone was so underrated, just as good if not better than the original. (the 2000s one was decent but still worse than the other two)
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Rhyno posted:I was referring to Robert Leeshock who left Earth Final Cornflake between seasons 4 and 5 because he was trying to land the lead on Enterprise. The EFC producers told him he there was no coming back if he left. He pursued the Trek role anyways and when it didn't happen his career was pretty much over. But had he gotten the role of Archer he would indeed still be "working." Speaking of Archer, it is true that if you have a substantive career before Star Trek, you can maintain one after--especially if you're a lead. Bakula is a lead on a hit show now, of course he was one before Enterprise as well. And of course Stewart has had just a big a career in X-Men as Star Trek arguably. And despite some dry spells, Shatner had big success on TJ Hooker, Rescue 911, and Boston Legal.
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Baronjutter posted:What you have to understand is that Voyager was created as a reaction to DS9. DS9's ratings were not as good as next gen's, thus voyager needs to do the opposite in every respect. The 50 year mission book really lays it out. Like the whole guiding principle to voyager was "Don't' be like ds9, which is bad and not a clone of next gen which means it's not REAL TREK" Both DS9 and Voyager were desperately trying to get to the position TNG had: legitimately mainstream Trek that everyone watched and liked. No three year stint and done, no movies, but actual honest-to-God mainstream Trek. Deep Space 9 tried to do that by being Not Your Dad's Star Trek. The kind of Trek where Superman would die and Venom would be a regular, and the villans of What's So Funny About Truth, Justice, and The American Way as the heroes. Voyager tried to do that by aping TNG as hard as it could, with episodic plots and relying on basically three characters (The Captain, The Borg, and the Doctor) for all the depth it could muster. If DS9 was an attempt to shake things up, Voyager was comfortable Trek. Given how often we hear talk in this thread about someone shocked that they liked Voyager more than DS9, I think they succeeded in that respect.
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Astroman posted:Speaking of Archer, it is true that if you have a substantive career before Star Trek, you can maintain one after--especially if you're a lead. Bakula is a lead on a hit show now, of course he was one before Enterprise as well. And of course Stewart has had just a big a career in X-Men as Star Trek arguably. And despite some dry spells, Shatner had big success on TJ Hooker, Rescue 911, and Boston Legal. I doubt anyone looks at Scott Bakula and Trek is the first thing that comes to mind.
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Rhyno posted:I doubt anyone looks at Scott Bakula and Trek is the first thing that comes to mind. It's all about Men of a Certain Age
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Tighclops posted:Oh hey check out our new prequel show it's new and different and it's got stuff you've never seen before
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Rhyno posted:I doubt anyone looks at Scott Bakula and Trek is the first thing that comes to mind. Quantum Leap was before I was born so to me he's "the Quantum Leap guy who played Archer"
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That's DOCTOR Sam "guy who played Archer" Beckett to you son
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Does anyone have the copy of Gene's infamous "Ferengi memo" that was floating around last year? A friend just got to their intro episode and I definitely want to shock the hell out of him, but my Googling is just turning up some quotes on Memory Alpha - .jpg images of the actual memo (two or three pages long) was posted a while back.
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The wife and I just finished watching Voyager a few days ago. I'd watched it in its initial run up until about season 4.5 or so and had not-so-great memories of watching it with my first wife, plus remembering the stupidity of episodes like Threshold and Tuvix... It was better than I remembered. I actually got a bit emotional when Neelix was leaving and Tuvok did his little foot-dance for him. I'm not sure if its old age, or just missing new Trek for so long, but I'd rate Voyager as good overall, with some real stinker episodes in there (and a lot of questionable choices by Janeway). The actors did their best with what they were working with. It just makes me wish they'd had better writers and could have done arcs instead of episodic TV (though I realize why they went that route). So, here's my current ratings for Star Trek series - TOS - Mostly great, with some stinkers thrown in (a lot of the 3rd season) TNG - Mostly great, with some stinkers thrown in (most of the 1st season, some of the 7th) DS9 - Mostly great, with some stinkers thrown in (mostly in the 1st and 2nd season) Voyager - Mostly good, with some great episodes and some stinkers occasionally (spread throughout the series) We just started a watch-through of Enterprise and I plan to make it all the way through this time. I've tried this before and got bogged down in the 2nd season but I will do it this time. We just finished the first Andorian episode and it was awesome if just for Jeffrey Combs (who, like John Saxon, makes everything better just by being in it).
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timeandtide posted:Does anyone have the copy of Gene's infamous "Ferengi memo" that was floating around last year? A friend just got to their intro episode and I definitely want to shock the hell out of him, but my Googling is just turning up some quotes on Memory Alpha - .jpg images of the actual memo (two or three pages long) was posted a while back.  
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Baronjutter posted:DS9 doesn't have enough "attractive white men" in it? Rick Berman made sure Tom Paris would be a strong handsome white male lead for white males to relate to. This was important to him. As a kid it took me forever to realize that people didn't think Bashir was white.
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MrL_JaKiri posted:I don't usually comment on this, but...if I had known *with absolute certainty* that there would be a season 5, then season 4 would have ended with 418, "Intersections in Real Time." So you only pull 4 episodes forward, really. You'll understand when you see it. That's fine. You take those four episodes out of the telepath arc, the whole thing can get tightened up. The Centauri war was good as it stands.
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Arglebargle III posted:As a kid it took me forever to realize that people didn't think Bashir was white. Wait, people think that? Like I knew on a conscious level that racial divisions are basically bullshit but this really drives it home
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Yeah he's literally an Arab. It didn't really occur to me but he's a descendant of Muhammed and everything, like super famous.
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HoboWithAShotgun posted:Always found it weird that Trek people still use holodecks when there have been so many moments where the holograms start to run amok like in westworld. A magic room that can make all of my fantasies happen at the cost of a slim chance that it might kill me. I don't personally know anyone who wouldn't play those odds. gently caress, people know that smoking WILL kill you and they still do it.
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Arglebargle III posted:Yeah he's literally an Arab. It didn't really occur to me but he's a descendant of Muhammed and everything, like super famous. I literally didn't realize that Bashir was an Arabic name when I watched the show as a kid. All I noticed was the British accent.
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Arglebargle III posted:Yeah he's literally an Arab. It didn't really occur to me but he's a descendant of Muhammed and everything, like super famous. Siddig El Tahir El Fadil El Siddig Abderrahman Mohammed Ahmed Abdel Karim El Mahdi.
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The Dark One posted:I literally didn't realize that Bashir was an Arabic name when I watched the show as a kid. All I noticed was the British accent.
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I think it would be interesting to see some sort of alternate reality NextGen where someone makes this idea actually work. I mean, the Ferengi as described here would make a pretty good anti-Federation who didn't really want to conquer the galaxy but were just ideologically opposite. If they'd lost the electro-whips and lecherous bouncy troll attributes, and re-interpreted them as more behind-the-scenes manipulators who didn't face the Federation head-on but bribed their way through interstellar politics and proxy wars, arms deals, and the like, it would have been really unique. But probably too slow for 90's TV, you'd really need arcs to make that work.GutBomb posted:What are you talking about? He was great in this, just last year: 
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MikeJF posted:That's fine. You take those four episodes out of the telepath arc, the whole thing can get tightened up. The Centauri war was good as it stands. Yeah, absolutely; it's not a whole series of filler is my point
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Arglebargle III posted:Yeah he's literally an Arab. It didn't really occur to me but he's a descendant of Muhammed and everything, like super famous. Well, he's descended from a guy named Muhammad, not necessarily the Last Prophet.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Well, he's descended from a guy named Muhammad, not necessarily the Last Prophet. He's descended from Muhammad Ahmad ibn Abd Allah al-Mahdi, who did indeed claim descent from the prophet Muhammad. Whether there was any truth to the claim is certainly not verifiable, but there's nothing innately improbable about it, there's an absolute gently caress ton of sayyids out there.
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Hi thread. It's been several dozen pages. Does ST:D still look like it's going to be a total (space age maglev) trainwreck? Have they even cast it yet? Last I heard it was due to start airing sometime in the Spring and there was every indication they were just gonna slam some Red Bulls and shoot everything the night before? Also did the fanfilm coffee profiteers get they dicks slapped off in court yet? Thanks.
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MikeJF posted:Siddig El Tahir El Fadil El Siddig Abderrahman Mohammed Ahmed Abdel Karim El Mahdi. At 12 it took me a while to work out who was who in the credits.
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Pac-Manioc Root posted:Hi thread. It's been several dozen pages. Does ST:D still look like it's going to be a total (space age maglev) trainwreck? Have they even cast it yet? Last I heard it was due to start airing sometime in the Spring and there was every indication they were just gonna slam some Red Bulls and shoot everything the night before? http://www.comingsoon.net/tv/news/788489-michelle-yeoh-star-trek-discovery I think that's the only thing that's come out so far.
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Knormal posted:I think it would be interesting to see some sort of alternate reality NextGen where someone makes this idea actually work. I mean, the Ferengi as described here would make a pretty good anti-Federation who didn't really want to conquer the galaxy but were just ideologically opposite. If they'd lost the electro-whips and lecherous bouncy troll attributes, and re-interpreted them as more behind-the-scenes manipulators who didn't face the Federation head-on but bribed their way through interstellar politics and proxy wars, arms deals, and the like, it would have been really unique. But probably too slow for 90's TV, you'd really need arcs to make that work. It'd be interesting, but then they'd be even more of an Evil Space Jew caricature.
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