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moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



Was the gameplay that bad though? I mean they did Guildball.

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Cat Face Joe
Feb 20, 2005

goth vegan crossfit mom who vapes



New thread title on point.

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

DigitalRaven posted:

Less a kickstarter more just a rallying cry:

Hail SS-18 Satan may his passing cleanse the earth.

That is actually the official motto of the John Ringo Let's Reads in TFR.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

Desiden posted:

So what's out there for those of us who might want a sorta dark fantasy game a la Kingdom Death with lots of cool grotesque models, but not all the baggage? Like, something that actually has gameplay that's not completely random, has weird creature designs (with or without tits, but not trying to make boobies and poop jokes its "mature" selling point), and has a neat sort of setting? The Dark Souls KS kinda looked like it might fit the bill, but talk of the gameplay made it sound like a dud. Anything else out there?

You can try Privateer Press' The Undercity. It's a Descent clone with body horror main antagonists. And if you don't mind modern fantasy The Others is in stores now. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/coolminiornot/the-others-7-sins?ref=discovery

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

I love women's boob's

Hauki
May 11, 2010


So do I but I don't feel the need to paste them on to every facet of my daily life

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib

Hauki posted:

So do I but I don't feel the need to paste them on to every facet of my daily life

All the kingdom death ones seem to be concentrated on pin-up figures (which they do male versions of now) and a few super gross monsters. The base game and most of the expansions seem fine.

And considering how much money the kickstarter is making, having optional boob models seems to be a good business practice.

Serf
May 5, 2011


MrFlibble posted:

All the kingdom death ones seem to be concentrated on pin-up figures (which they do male versions of now) and a few super gross monsters. The base game and most of the expansions seem fine.

And considering how much money the kickstarter is making, having optional boob models seems to be a good business practice.

This says more about the sorry state of our hobby than anything else honestly.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib

Serf posted:

This says more about the sorry state of our hobby than anything else honestly.

People want to buy stupid tacky models of girls in skimpy outfits / provocative poses / outright porn miniatures, quelle horreur.

Jesus. I don't want to buy that poo poo, and someone who does want it and would display it is not the kind of person I would associate with, but i'm not going to pass moral judgement on them.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Hauki posted:

So do I but I don't feel the need to paste them on to every facet of my daily life

You're missing on it, brother.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

I make less than 800 pink money (40 dollaritos) a month as a goat herd so I'd have to live off grass, scorpions, cardboard and loamy sandwater for a year or so before buying Kingdom Death's miniatures full set but hell if I wouldn't buy and J/O to them if I could.

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DigitalRaven
Oct 9, 2012




Humbug Scoolbus posted:

That is actually the official motto of the John Ringo Let's Reads in TFR.

That's where I got it from, but I didn't think it should be confined to just TFR.

Cat Face Joe
Feb 20, 2005

goth vegan crossfit mom who vapes



Unironically glad TheLovablePlutonis is here.

Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister


Cat Face Joe posted:

New thread title on point.

I dunno, it misspelled 'Wangs'. :downsrim:

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Cat Face Joe posted:

Unironically glad TheLovablePlutonis is here.

I really don't like the labeling of some horny fellas who like sexy figs as bad people. Even if the game is overpriced you might say they are shmucks at most or just way too eager/don't know about better priced and superior quality japanese Figmas.

Sigma-X
Jun 17, 2005
My stack of tits Kickstarter is going to launch in January.

Serf
May 5, 2011


Sigma-X posted:

My stack of tits Kickstarter is going to launch in January.

Easiest million dollars you'll ever make.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Sigma-X posted:

My stack of tits Kickstarter is going to launch in January.

Show 'em.

Det_no
Oct 24, 2003

MrFlibble posted:

Thanks! Shame about the flower knight, I prefer plastic. Oh well.

EDIT: I hope they add armor kits to the add on list like they did last time (apparently). Some of the armored human models look really cool as well.

The flower knight expansion was just added to the official store, there's a handful left.

Edit: or maybe not and it was just someone from the australian warehouse finding some copies under a tarp or something.

Det_no fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Nov 28, 2016

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib

Det_no posted:

The flower knight expansion was just added to the official store, there's a handful left.

Edit: or maybe not and it was just someone from the australian warehouse finding some copies under a tarp or something.

Thanks - but if I get any expansions it'll be through the kickstarter I expect. I managed to snag a $50 off the core game spot. Not sure if i'll end up using it but I'm kind of leaning that way. The game itself looks like my groups style and there's nothing objectionable to me in the base set.

I mean its very expensive but with the world ending one way or another its worth a roll of the dice.

Hiro Protagonist
Oct 25, 2010

Last of the freelance hackers and
Greatest swordfighter in the world

Evil Mastermind posted:

So it looks like Metamorphosis Alpha has swung back into the "in trouble" category; at the start of November Jamie Chambers said that all the books have shipped and that at this point everyone should have their hardcopies, and if you didn't to contact him. So people who didn't get their books contacted him as asked.

Then last week he posted another update saying that everyone has gottne their books, only there's quite a few people in the comments who're saying they still haven't received anything and haven't heard back from when they contacted him the last time, and Jamie isn't replying to comments.

Dammit, Jamie, you were so close!
How are the rules on that? I had been looking at that game. It's a shame Jamie had to be lame at crunch time.

gutterdaughter
Oct 21, 2010

keep yr head up, problem girl

Desiden posted:

So what's out there for those of us who might want a sorta dark fantasy game a la Kingdom Death with lots of cool grotesque models, but not all the baggage? Like, something that actually has gameplay that's not completely random, has weird creature designs (with or without tits, but not trying to make boobies and poop jokes its "mature" selling point), and has a neat sort of setting? The Dark Souls KS kinda looked like it might fit the bill, but talk of the gameplay made it sound like a dud. Anything else out there?

Well Cryptic Explorers looks really good, being aesthetically grotesque without being Edgy and/or gross about women.

It's also about to fail with half funding to go at less than 48 hours.

*Price is Right tuba*

Cat Face Joe
Feb 20, 2005

goth vegan crossfit mom who vapes



Gutter Owl posted:

Well Cryptic Explorers looks really good, being aesthetically grotesque without being Edgy and/or gross about women.

It's also about to fail with half funding to go at less than 48 hours.

*Price is Right tuba*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A

Oh well, that's money saved I guess.

Hauki
May 11, 2010


Gutter Owl posted:

Well Cryptic Explorers looks really good, being aesthetically grotesque without being Edgy and/or gross about women.

It's also about to fail with half funding to go at less than 48 hours.

*Price is Right tuba*

Oh right, I forgot about that one. I was curious about it, too bad it's failing again. Necronauts was also a more unique name. I'm sorta curious what they've been doing to try to garner new interest, the designer is apparently local to me but I've never seen or heard anything about it outside of this thread during either campaign, either in person or online. I guess I'm not surprised it's failed to fund twice.

gutterdaughter
Oct 21, 2010

keep yr head up, problem girl

Hauki posted:

Oh right, I forgot about that one. I was curious about it, too bad it's failing again. Necronauts was also a more unique name. I'm sorta curious what they've been doing to try to garner new interest, the designer is apparently local to me but I've never seen or heard anything about it outside of this thread during either campaign, either in person or online. I guess I'm not surprised it's failed to fund twice.

Which is sad. Because it looks like pretty drat good variant on the dungeon crawl--a genre I usually hate for being dicey and fiddly.

But good game + bad marketing + unengaging KS project equals no money.

Sigma-X
Jun 17, 2005
It doesn't hurt that it's asking for $34k as a completely new studio whose only previous project was the same thing, estimated at more that twice the cost, and failed then too.

Getting that kind of money requires a magic cross section of luck and great marketing and trust.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

Hiro Protagonist posted:

How are the rules on that? I had been looking at that game. It's a shame Jamie had to be lame at crunch time.

It's pretty meh, to be honest. It's a d6 pool beat-a-TN system, but there's some old RPG design flotsam in there like artistic skills. There's no real mechanical "hook" that does anything interesting or covers anything outside what amounts to dungeon crawling.

Really it's nothing we haven't seen before.

Alien Rope Burn
Dec 5, 2004

I wanna be a saikyo HERO!
The idea of Dark Souls + Monster Hunter as a campaign minis game is a pretty cool one, and they have talented artists. But it's one of those properties that mistakes vulgarity for maturity, and doesn't have a consistent tone as a result. It's hard to invest emotionally in the grim struggle for survival in the face of poo poo-eating and dick-stealing... and that's before we get into porn minis. They obviously enjoy doing porny minis, and that's not bad in and of itself. However, you have the issue that they were originally put alongside imagery of women being victimized with heavy sexual overtones, in an industry that already has trouble depicting women as more than cleavage stands. You also have the whole thing where the pinup minis are "non-canon" despite being notably used to market the game... a bit of wanting to have it both ways. "See, you can play Kingdom Death for the articles."

I mean, say what you want about Soda Pop, at least they own being anime creeps. It's not the 25mm tits alone that makes KD:M offputting, after all. If nothing else, a game that markets itself with the word "boutique" while seeking to produce dung beetle-themed pinups deserves a raised eyebrow at the very least.

Det_no
Oct 24, 2003
I'll give you that hitting monsters in the dick is dumb but pinups are not reccomended for play because they are resin and real fragile, not because the guy is being sly.

Spiderdrake
May 12, 2001



That reminds me that the studio that did titty warham miniatures "Toughest Girls of the Galaxy" announced their next kickstarter is going to be terrain and then a follow up to TGG sometime next year.

Then they announced they're going to split the terrain KS into three separate kickstarters, starting with gothic church terrain. There's something about going from making high heels wearing big breasts space elves to churches that makes me giggle.

Zereth
Jul 9, 2003



Alien Rope Burn posted:

The idea of Dark Souls + Monster Hunter as a campaign minis game is a pretty cool one, and they have talented artists. But it's one of those properties that mistakes vulgarity for maturity, and doesn't have a consistent tone as a result. It's hard to invest emotionally in the grim struggle for survival in the face of poo poo-eating and dick-stealing... and that's before we get into porn minis. They obviously enjoy doing porny minis, and that's not bad in and of itself. However, you have the issue that they were originally put alongside imagery of women being victimized with heavy sexual overtones, in an industry that already has trouble depicting women as more than cleavage stands. You also have the whole thing where the pinup minis are "non-canon" despite being notably used to market the game... a bit of wanting to have it both ways. "See, you can play Kingdom Death for the articles."

I mean, say what you want about Soda Pop, at least they own being anime creeps. It's not the 25mm tits alone that makes KD:M offputting, after all. If nothing else, a game that markets itself with the word "boutique" while seeking to produce dung beetle-themed pinups deserves a raised eyebrow at the very least.
It's poo poo like the "dismembered naked woman torso used as a bookstand" mini that really pushes it into "Yes you are a bad person for supporting this" territory.

Cat Face Joe
Feb 20, 2005

goth vegan crossfit mom who vapes



Alien Rope Burn posted:

The idea of Dark Souls + Monster Hunter as a campaign minis game is a pretty cool one, and they have talented artists. But it's one of those properties that mistakes vulgarity for maturity, and doesn't have a consistent tone as a result. It's hard to invest emotionally in the grim struggle for survival in the face of poo poo-eating and dick-stealing... and that's before we get into porn minis. They obviously enjoy doing porny minis, and that's not bad in and of itself. However, you have the issue that they were originally put alongside imagery of women being victimized with heavy sexual overtones, in an industry that already has trouble depicting women as more than cleavage stands. You also have the whole thing where the pinup minis are "non-canon" despite being notably used to market the game... a bit of wanting to have it both ways. "See, you can play Kingdom Death for the articles."

I mean, say what you want about Soda Pop, at least they own being anime creeps. It's not the 25mm tits alone that makes KD:M offputting, after all. If nothing else, a game that markets itself with the word "boutique" while seeking to produce dung beetle-themed pinups deserves a raised eyebrow at the very least.

uh they're 32mm that's what makes them boutique

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib

Zereth posted:

It's poo poo like the "dismembered naked woman torso used as a bookstand" mini that really pushes it into "Yes you are a bad person for supporting this" territory.

No it doesn't. Just because your idiot rear end can't distinguish fantasy and reality doesn't mean you get to say whats acceptable and whats not. Stop making me defend poo poo like that.

Listen, i'll give you a practical reason. If you steal money from a charity you are a bad person. If buying something other people find distasteful makes you a bad person it devalues the evilness of stealing from charity.

Buying the miniature you described makes you kind of hosed up (at least socially, if you're putting that poo poo where other people can see it), but not a bad person. If the guy who makes it is a nazi or something, than maybe you could make a case against buying products you want from him making you a bad person. Even then it depends on what evil hes using the money he makes for.

loving puritans. You don't like poo poo, don't buy poo poo. You're welcome to judge people who do buy it and i'm welcome to judge you for judging them.

Auralsaurus Flex
Aug 3, 2012
Immorality isn't binary, it's a spectrum.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

MrFlibble posted:

loving puritans. You don't like poo poo, don't buy poo poo. You're welcome to judge people who do buy it and i'm welcome to judge you for judging them.

Yeah, sorry you're making yourself into the problem when you're calling critics puritans. We're not saying sex is bad, we're saying that using dismembered, sexualized women's body parts as game pieces is disgusting and unacceptable.

So yeah, come the gently caress on. Perpetuating violence (sexual and physical) against women so you can get off to a lovely titty miniatures game IS what bad people do.

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib

MrFlibble posted:

No it doesn't. Just because your idiot rear end can't distinguish fantasy and reality doesn't mean you get to say whats acceptable and whats not. Stop making me defend poo poo like that.

Nobody's making you do anything buddy, you're the one getting defensive over people saying the game you want to pitch money to is full of skeezy poo poo. If you really couldn't care less you wouldn't be planting your flag on the hill of "loving puritan prudes looking down their noses at dismembered lady torso miniatures, god."

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib

Auralsaurus Flex posted:

Immorality isn't binary, it's a spectrum.

Ascribing morality to an action which has no negative outcomes for anyone, at all, is in itself immoral. It erodes society as a whole. You shouldn't ban books and you shouldn't ban severed head titty miniatures, as distasteful as they may be.

Kai Tave posted:

Nobody's making you do anything buddy, you're the one getting defensive over people saying the game you want to pitch money to is full of skeezy poo poo. If you really couldn't care less you wouldn't be planting your flag on the hill of "loving puritan prudes looking down their noses at dismembered lady torso miniatures, god."

Its not just happening here. Its happening everywhere. And sure, it might be fine to call someone buying this skeezy poo poo bad. And then the poo poo you buy that people will call you bad for gets slightly less skeevy. And so on.

gently caress off with that poo poo. You buy gross miniatures, you have hosed up taste. You are not a bad person.

MrFlibble fucked around with this message at 02:05 on Nov 29, 2016

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

MrFlibble posted:

Ascribing morality to an action which has no negative outcomes for anyone, at all, is in itself immoral. It erodes society as a whole. You shouldn't ban books and you shouldn't ban severed head titty miniatures, as distasteful as they may be.

No, you idiot. Normalizing and endorsing violence against women has a huge negative outcome in society. This is what makes people think its okay to beat their partners, which makes men think it's okay to injure or murder women who won't date or have sex with them, so forth and so on. Sexualized violence against women is a massive, actual real-life problem.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Zereth posted:

It's poo poo like the "dismembered naked woman torso used as a bookstand" mini that really pushes it into "Yes you are a bad person for supporting this" territory.

That sounds badass dude.

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Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

MrFlibble posted:

gently caress off with that poo poo. You buy gross miniatures, you have hosed up taste. You are not a bad person.

There's a proverb on my region that says: "Personal taste is like a butthole. You don't stick your finger at someone's else without due permission."

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