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MrFlibble posted:Its not just happening here. Its happening everywhere. And sure, it might be fine to call someone buying this skeezy poo poo bad. And then the poo poo you buy that people will call you bad for gets slightly less skeevy. And so on. Right, the dangerous slippery slope of not being measured enough in one's responses to people buying mutilated women miniatures for their lovely faux-Dark Souls boardgame, totally.
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MrFlibble posted:Ascribing morality to an action which has no negative outcomes for anyone, at all, is in itself immoral. It erodes society as a whole. You shouldn't ban books and you shouldn't ban severed head titty miniatures, as distasteful as they may be. replace your name with "Scat Man"
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MrFlibble posted:No it doesn't. Just because your idiot rear end can't distinguish fantasy and reality doesn't mean you get to say whats acceptable and whats not. Stop making me defend poo poo like that. Ain't nobody making you defend poo poo. You're making a conscious choice to defend the dismembered lady torso table game. That you want to support stuff like that is on you, nobody else.
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Serf posted:Ain't nobody making you defend poo poo. You're making a conscious choice to defend the dismembered lady torso table game. That you want to support stuff like that is on you, nobody else. Ok, i'll make this my last post on the subject. I'm perfectly happy buying the stuff I want to from this kickstarter. And all this poo poo about buying the non gross poo poo makes me a bad person because the dude also makes gross poo poo? Doesn't bother me one bit. If you believe that gross poo poo existing makes society a bad place and want to make this stuff stop existing you are going to have to learn new tactics.
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MrFlibble posted:Ascribing morality to an action which has no negative outcomes for anyone, at all, is in itself immoral. It erodes society as a whole. You shouldn't ban books and you shouldn't ban severed head titty miniatures, as distasteful as they may be. "Ascribing morality to an action is immoral" is ascribing morality to an action, buddy. You're getting so mad that people are looking at a gross, hosed up game and going "wow, that's gross and hosed up, people shouldn't buy that and people who do buy it should be ashamed." That's the proper reaction to seeing something like this. The fact that that isn't your reaction tells me you've been extremely desensitized to this kind of thing, which, that's fair. Our society is super good at desensitizing people to gross and hosed up things, its how the people who make and do gross and hosed up things continue to succeed. But just because people are used to it doesn't make it good or okay. Kingdom Death is gross and bad. Supporting it, therefore, is a gross and bad action to do. Does doing that make you a bad person? Kinda, yeah! There is no such thing as a good person or a bad person, there are only good actions and bad actions. But a person who consistently supports bad things, well. That tells you about what kind of action they're likely to take. gnome7 fucked around with this message at 02:18 on Nov 29, 2016 |
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MrFlibble posted:Ok, i'll make this my last post on the subject. I'm perfectly happy buying the stuff I want to from this kickstarter. And all this poo poo about buying the non gross poo poo makes me a bad person because the dude also makes gross poo poo? Doesn't bother me one bit. Hey dude, the fact that you've heard of people pointing out that bad things are bad, that it has gotten through your safe privilege bubble to frustrate you so much because it actually makes you think about your actions for a moment? That means it's working.
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MrFlibble posted:Ok, i'll make this my last post on the subject. I'm perfectly happy buying the stuff I want to from this kickstarter. And all this poo poo about buying the non gross poo poo makes me a bad person because the dude also makes gross poo poo? Doesn't bother me one bit. You could just... not give your money to the gross titty death horror game. I know I've passed on things I wanted because I refused to support aspects of them that I found distasteful. The only effective voice a person has is in how they spend their money.
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MrFlibble posted:Ok, i'll make this my last post on the subject. I'm perfectly happy buying the stuff I want to from this kickstarter. And all this poo poo about buying the non gross poo poo makes me a bad person because the dude also makes gross poo poo? Doesn't bother me one bit. have you considered all of this might be bothering you because you know it's hosed up and don't like being confronted with the knowledge that people will prejudge you as a person based on your ownership of hyper-detailed anime titty/monster hunting game?
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Serf posted:You could just... not give your money to the gross titty death horror game. I know I've passed on things I wanted because I refused to support aspects of them that I found distasteful. The only effective voice a person has is in how they spend their money. I don't think he's able to do that. His life as a white dude is predicated on being able to conquer and have whatever he wants, and he wants this. The problem isn't him, the problem is all those drat social justice warriors trying to get between him and the toy he wants. He wants the toy. Why can't you understand that?
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Serf posted:You could just... not give your money to the gross titty death horror game. I know I've passed on things I wanted because I refused to support aspects of them that I found distasteful. The only effective voice a person has is in how they spend their money. He could buy those instead for the same price range https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ISKJBOK/ref=psdc_2514571011_t1_B003MZ0N8O https://www.amazon.com/Good-Smile-E...1D2D9P66G3H0TFC https://www.amazon.com/Taito-Magic-...1D2D9P66G3H0TFC https://www.amazon.com/Kotobukiya-S...1D2D9P66G3H0TFC https://www.amazon.com/Vertex-Valkyria-Chronicles-Selvaria-Bless/dp/B01D2H13WQ/
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gnome7 posted:"Ascribing morality to an action is immoral" is ascribing morality to an action, buddy. I think the main thing he's taking issue with (or at least the thing I take issue with) is that the actual game really isn't gross and hosed up. I encountered the game without ever seeing the first kickstarter, and nothing in the base game or the expansions I've played is really that objectionable (one of the 4 starting survivors is topless but covering herself I guess?). They also produce pornographic minis that they brand the same, and I have no interest in those, and I don't think I'm a bad person for wanting a copy of the game in this kickstarter?
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Nuns with Guns posted:have you considered all of this might be bothering you because you know it's hosed up and don't like being confronted with the knowledge that people will prejudge you as a person based on your ownership of hyper-detailed anime titty/monster hunting game? Yes I have considered it. It probably is actually quite true, I can't see why else I would be so bothered because the gross poo poo is gross. Arivia posted:I don't think he's able to do that. His life as a white dude is predicated on being able to conquer and have whatever he wants, and he wants this. The problem isn't him, the problem is all those drat social justice warriors trying to get between him and the toy he wants. He wants the toy. Why can't you understand that? I'm white? TheLovablePlutonis posted:He could buy those instead for the same price range You do you man. EDIT: Oh this is fantastic. Thanks!
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Cat Face Joe posted:uh they're 32mm that's what makes them boutique It turns out I can't look up facts about Kingdom Death at work. True story! Det_no posted:I'll give you that hitting monsters in the dick is dumb but pinups are not reccomended for play because they are resin and real fragile, not because the guy is being sly. Fair point, that's not really in their explanation so I didn't think about it. MrFlibble posted:loving puritans. You don't like poo poo, don't buy poo poo. You're welcome to judge people who do buy it and i'm welcome to judge you for judging them. If you like it, that's fine! I'm not picking on the customers but I'll certainly pick on the game. I mean it has a giant angler baby who just wants to gently caress other giant angler babies, and I understand that isn't supposed to be comedic, but I'm trying to stop laughing as I type that and it's just not working out. I mean it has "extreme bodily functions" and makes storms by loving other giant angler babies, it's the kind of thing that makes Synnibarr look comparatively sober.
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One time I was playing Imperial Assault with this guy who unprompted and out of nowhere asked me "so hey, have you heard of this game called Kingdom Death?" And I didn't rise up out of my seat and start beating him about the face and neck in righteous indignation but something in my expression is probably what caused him to immediately start rushing to head off any comments I might have made on the subject before I could even say a word, "haha no no, it's not as bad as people make it out to be, haha I swear, no really." Personally I'm of the opinion that if something you've decided to support compels you to make excuses for it because it constantly has people giving you the side-eye then mmmmmaybe that should be a warning sign, but that's just me. Anyway that's my Kingdom Death story. Wezlar posted:I think the main thing he's taking issue with (or at least the thing I take issue with) is that the actual game really isn't gross and hosed up. The punchline is that Kingdom Death: the Game And Totally Not The Weird Skeezy Minis I Swear is still pretty bad, like someone wanted to make a Dark Souls game because yeah man Dark Souls is rad except they stuck in a whole bunch of RNG bullshit that can just randomly gently caress you over with no recourse and then I guess decided to add events where you eat poop or critically hit a lion in the "ding-dong" or whatever so who even loving knows what kind of tone they're going for. So I mean it's not even like there's some gleaming golden masterpiece to be found if you're willing to look past all the dumb "body horror" aesthetic. Yeah, tastes vary, different strokes, I just don't think Kingdom Death has demonstrated itself to be a game worth going to bat for especially in a market that's not starving for excellent games to play.
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Wezlar posted:I think the main thing he's taking issue with (or at least the thing I take issue with) is that the actual game really isn't gross and hosed up. I encountered the game without ever seeing the first kickstarter, and nothing in the base game or the expansions I've played is really that objectionable (one of the 4 starting survivors is topless but covering herself I guess?). They also produce pornographic minis that they brand the same, and I have no interest in those, and I don't think I'm a bad person for wanting a copy of the game in this kickstarter? The 1.5 kickstarter is definitely going downplaying the anime girlz aspect of the game. the original kickstarter tried a lot harder to insert anime babes and figurine models in wherever it could. the comparative lack actually reads to me like Adam Poots (heh) was trying to hook people in who were weirded out by all the bomb-rear end tittays before MrFlibble posted:Yes I have considered it. It probably is actually quite true, I can't see why else I would be so bothered because the gross poo poo is gross. the Dark Souls game seems to be about as functional as the kingdom death one with significantly less cheesecake if you wanted a swingy card deck-based monster fight with well-crafted minis Nuns with Guns fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Nov 29, 2016 |
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TheLovablePlutonis posted:I'll buy those figs when i get a job that isn't milking goats for the goat cheese factory. Also redtexts are lame. That's how mature adults deal with their problems, Plutonis. By paying someone money to get the last word in.
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Nuns with Guns posted:the Dark Souls game seems to be about as functional as the kingdom death one with significantly less cheesecake if you wanted a swingy card deck-based monster fight with well-crafted minis No, after some soul searching I have decided to embrace my inner whiteness and buy the game and as many expansions as my budget will allow. I mean, because I want them. The dude has already got over $5 million in sales - there are more effective ways to declare my white straightness. Donating to a charity with family in the name for starters. neongrey posted:Nah I think it's pretty important to know when interacting with this dirtbag that he's someone who evidently considers supporting plastic rape dollies is a-ok if it gets him something he wants. If a mod is reading this - can I request a name change to thisdirtbag, or dirtbag? Just so we're clear though https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_gay_propaganda_law this is all cool and good because the moral majority have decided its in societies best interest right? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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MrFlibble posted:Ok, i'll make this my last post on the subject.
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MrFlibble posted:Just so we're clear though https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_gay_propaganda_law this is all cool and good because the moral majority have decided its in societies best interest right?
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MrFlibble posted:No, after some soul searching I have decided to embrace my inner whiteness and buy the game and as many expansions as my budget will allow. you really shouldn't let arivia's weird & unhealthy projecting eat at your soul the way that lion with the penis tail eats at survivors who roll poorly in the Kingdom Death boardgame
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neongrey posted:Nah I think it's pretty important to know when interacting with this dirtbag that he's someone who evidently considers supporting plastic rape dollies is a-ok if it gets him something he wants. I don't think buying a product makes you a rapist, unless it's let's say, rohypnol or chloroform.
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Bedlamdan posted:That's how mature adults deal with their problems, Plutonis. By paying someone money to get the last word in. 
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Ominous Jazz posted:So, you're comparing being made fun of for your pervy edgy action figures to anti gay laws? This is a tremendous temper tantrum, my dude. Hey, at least he isn't trying to defend Exploding Kittens. Let's cut him some slack.
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Ominous Jazz posted:So, you're comparing being made fun of for your pervy edgy action figures to anti gay laws? This is a tremendous temper tantrum, my dude. I swear there is a flowchart out there for how this argument progresses because it is always the same.
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Serf posted:I swear there is a flowchart out there for how this argument progresses because it is always the same. NEXT STOP: He doesn't actually think that way, he's puppetmastering.
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Serf posted:I swear there is a flowchart out there for how this argument progresses because it is always the same. I find it distasteful to say someone is bad for buying a product that harms no one. The gay-propoganda law is the logical extension of that line of thinking. And maybe its ok to be like that when you are the one with the power to decide whats ok and whats not. Maybe your judgement is so perfect and pure that none could argue. Just so long as you're ok with russia doing it to the gays. I mean - homosexuality is deviant right? Its wrong and it corrupts the youth, it leads to the dissolution of the family. In russia anyway. Places with freedom seem to think being gay is ok on the societal level - even if there are some hold outs. Golden Bee posted:NEXT STOP: He doesn't actually think that way, he's puppetmastering. No, sorry. I really am as dumb as I look.
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TheLovablePlutonis posted:I don't think buying a product makes you a rapist, unless it's let's say, rohypnol or chloroform. Hey, there are plenty of non-rapey uses of chloroform. It's a decent organic solvent. Unlike Kingdom Death, which is a terrible game propped up by sales of rape figures.
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MrFlibble posted:I find it distasteful to say someone is bad for buying a product that harms no one. The gay-propoganda law is the logical extension of that line of thinking. And maybe its ok to be like that when you are the one with the power to decide whats ok and whats not. Maybe your judgement is so perfect and pure that none could argue. Serf posted:I swear there is a flowchart out there for how this argument progresses because it is always the same.
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Kwyndig posted:Hey, there are plenty of non-rapey uses of chloroform. It's a decent organic solvent. What rape figures
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MrFlibble posted:I find it distasteful to say someone is bad for buying a product that harms no one. You've really yet to prove this.
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gradenko_2000 posted:You've really yet to prove this. Burden of proof is on accuser
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neongrey posted:First they came for the rape figurine enthusiasts Actually they've skipped that step. Now buying the non rapey poo poo is bad - because the dude also does gross poo poo. I am excited to see the next step on the decline of our freedoms. TheLovablePlutonis posted:Burden of proof is on accuser
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