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MisterBibs posted:Bit of a crosspost from a Trek-related derail in a thread in PYF: I have serious doubts about that being true. That sounds like the kind of thing that would have been bandied around in the old LF star trek thread.
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Nov 28, 2016 21:34
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WeAreTheRomans posted:This is godawful. Sounds like the Baywatch Nights or Melrose Place theme. That backing track is just poo It's definitely lacking in the requisite meedlies, squigglies, and jugga-wuggas.
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Nov 28, 2016 21:40
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Nebakenezzer posted:"My ship, whom I love like a woman, is disabled." Oh lord. I hear Bashir's into that
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Nebakenezzer posted:"My ship, whom I love like a woman, is disabled." Oh lord. 
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I realized listening to The Greatest Generation that I've never seen any of TNG S1 except for Encounter at Farpoint. Is there a recommended list of episodes to get a good feel for that season? While I'd rather not waste time on anything that's just boring or filler, I don't want to exclude episodes just for being bad. If they're interesting while bad, or important to the franchise's history, that seems an important part of the feel of the season too.
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Nov 28, 2016 22:54
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Lord Hydronium posted:I realized listening to The Greatest Generation that I've never seen any of TNG S1 except for Encounter at Farpoint. Is there a recommended list of episodes to get a good feel for that season? While I'd rather not waste time on anything that's just boring or filler, I don't want to exclude episodes just for being bad. If they're interesting while bad, or important to the franchise's history, that seems an important part of the feel of the season too. If you're watching just to watch TNG, there are only a few S1 episodes worth watching (Encounter at Farpoint, Datalore, and... hmmm... maybe The Arsenal of Freedom?).
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Nov 28, 2016 23:28
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WhiteHowler posted:If you're watching along with The Greatest Generation, just go ahead and watch all of season 1. They poo poo all over the bad episodes, and it's great.
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Nov 28, 2016 23:48
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Enterprise 3x12 ends with Archer basically saying "gently caress you and gently caress religion." Glorious.
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Nov 28, 2016 23:50
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Lord Hydronium posted:I might just end up doing that anyway, but I was more wondering what a good representative list looked like rather than just worthwhile episodes. Like for Voyager I would include Threshold because it's famously bad. If you want famously bad episodes, that's code of honor
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Nov 28, 2016 23:51
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Yeah, S1 was...not great. "Oh look, we're doing a TOS callback with this touch-intoxication disease thing....and Data is affected, because fluids."
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Nov 29, 2016 00:02
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It's been a while since I've watched my DVDs/commentaries, why did they write out Scotty and replace him with Welshie from that episode, anyway? Did James Doohan (if he was still alive at that point) not give permission for his likeness/character?
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Nov 29, 2016 00:06
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The Greatest Generation reviews of season one probably give a good sense of the episodes you would enjoy watching or get a good sample from. The only episode they seemed to enjoy more than I do is "The Arsenal of Freedom" while I enjoy "Hide and Q" more than they do if only for Picard's arrogance.
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Nov 29, 2016 00:07
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MisterBibs posted:It's been a while since I've watched my DVDs/commentaries, why did they write out Scotty and replace him with Welshie from that episode, anyway? Did James Doohan (if he was still alive at that point) not give permission for his likeness/character? Doohan refused to do anything that Shatner was involved in.
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Nov 29, 2016 00:13
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MisterBibs posted:It's been a while since I've watched my DVDs/commentaries, why did they write out Scotty and replace him with Welshie from that episode, anyway? Did James Doohan (if he was still alive at that point) not give permission for his likeness/character? Doohan didn't agree. Production name for the episode was "We got everybody except Scotty"
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Nov 29, 2016 00:28
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Yeah they didn't even use his name, just "the actor who played Scotty."
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Nov 29, 2016 00:58
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Quark is a lot like Worf. Believes very strongly in his birth culture, more than most of his people if the events of DS9 are indicative of general Ferengi attitudes, and more often than not the butt of the joke.
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Nov 29, 2016 00:58
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King Hong Kong posted:The Greatest Generation reviews of season one probably give a good sense of the episodes you would enjoy watching or get a good sample from. The only episode they seemed to enjoy more than I do is "The Arsenal of Freedom" while I enjoy "Hide and Q" more than they do if only for Picard's arrogance. The Greatest Gen guys are actually a lot less harsh on a lot of episodes than people in this thread tend to be. They actually liked quite a few episodes from the first two seasons, even if they didn't love them, whereas the general advice in this thread is to just skip everything except for maybe five or six episodes.
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Apollodorus posted:Yeah they didn't even use his name, just "the actor who played Scotty." "You mean Doohan?"  Also thanks for the responses, I guess I'll just keep listening to Greatest Generation and watch what sounds interesting or interestingly bad.
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Of the first season, I do think Conspiracy is worth watching, and probably the episodes that tie into it as well, as it pretty much is the only serialized storytelling in the entire series. It also has what is likely the goriest scene in Next Gen.
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Oh yeah, I forgot Conspiracy was S1 too. That was an odd one, with a lot of creepy atmosphere.
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Nov 29, 2016 01:16
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A trek series with the vibe of that episode would be great. A sort of trek-universe x-files or fringe where some task force is out investigating creepy and scary poo poo within the federation.
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Nov 29, 2016 01:17
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Baronjutter posted:A trek series with the vibe of that episode would be great. A sort of trek-universe x-files or fringe where some task force is out investigating creepy and scary poo poo within the federation.  Also I'm sure everyone knows this bit of trivia already, but the two Temporal Investigations agents in Trials and Tribble-ations, Dulmer and Lucsly, are anagrams of Mulder and Scully.
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Nov 29, 2016 01:23
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All of Next Gen Season 1 has a weird, dreamlike tone to it imo that they eventually stabalized into a more average sort of look.
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Nov 29, 2016 01:42
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Lord Hydronium posted:The Agent Mulder character is the only one who believes aliens don't exist. Ironically, Mulder is a skeptical atheist. This gets played up in the Scully-centric religious/supernatural episodes.
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Nov 29, 2016 01:54
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Conspiracy is an interesting duck because (at Roddenberry's insistence) it's not a conspiracy. It's an alien invasion, because the notion of humans betraying their fellow humans? gently caress that!
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Nov 29, 2016 02:08
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Lord Hydronium posted:The Agent Mulder character is the only one who believes aliens don't exist. That would be a fantastic character. Like a Flat Earth person today, someone who grew up in the Federation on Earth, where we've known about aliens for 300 years, you can see them every day, and he thinks they are all makeup and a government conspiracy. 
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Nov 29, 2016 02:19
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MisterBibs posted:Conspiracy is an interesting duck because (at Roddenberry's insistence) it's not a conspiracy. It's an alien invasion, because the notion of humans betraying their fellow humans? gently caress that! To be fair, I think it would have been pretty stupid to have the Federation on the verge of a military coup in season one, then just go back to random exploring for the rest of the series.
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Angry Salami posted:To be fair, I think it would have been pretty stupid to have the Federation on the verge of a military coup in season one, then just go back to random exploring for the rest of the series. Well, this was also the time period they were supposed to be locked in a brutal war with the Cardassians.
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WickedHate posted:Well, this was also the time period they were supposed to be locked in a brutal war with the Cardassians. Yeah but the Cardassians were a retcon and didn't exist prior to season four.
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http://www.startrek.com/article/star-trek-discovery-beams-up-three-cast-members Yeoh confirmed, couple of other cast members as well; Doug Jones and Anthony Rapp. The latter plays a mycologist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5qoWoKpkzM confirmed.
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Nov 29, 2016 19:47
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The chinese captain having a chinese ship is just too much for me. I was looking forward to this, had a tiny bit of hope, but that one thing is just too stupid and all hope and interest has been lost.
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WickedHate posted:Well, this was also the time period they were supposed to be locked in a brutal war with the Cardassians. Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Yeah but the Cardassians were a retcon and didn't exist prior to season four. I thought we mostly rationalized that by imagining the "war" as a low-intensity conflict along a disputed border that just dragged on for years. Colonies get raided, ships snipe at one another, but no actual set piece battles. The Cardies don't have the power projection to make major gains, and the Federation is busy doodling away with exploration, internal consolidation, and other low-intensity conflicts (wasn't Sisko involved in a Space Gulf War with the Tzekenthi at some point?), so nothing really gets resolved until the Cardies start having larger internal problems and start agreeing to major concessions in the 2360s.
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Nov 29, 2016 20:14
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Doug Jones must love being in make-up.
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Baronjutter posted:The chinese captain having a chinese ship is just too much for me. I was looking forward to this, had a tiny bit of hope, but that one thing is just too stupid and all hope and interest has been lost. Yeah that was a bit overkill, especially since I was expecting her to captain Discovery.
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Nov 29, 2016 20:17
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Kingtheninja posted:Yeah that was a bit overkill, especially since I was expecting her to captain Discovery. It's funny that the new ship literally translates to "USS Spaceship".
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Nov 29, 2016 20:19
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LinkesAuge posted:It's funny that the new ship literally translates to "USS Spaceship". It'd be more realistic if it was Spaceship McSpaceshipface
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Nov 29, 2016 20:26
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LinkesAuge posted:It's funny that the new ship literally translates to "USS Spaceship".
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Nov 29, 2016 20:26
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I just figure she had a choice of commands and went for the ship with the name that meant something to her.
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Pleasantly surprised with the Doug Jones casting. Looking forward to all the lame mushroom jokes from Lt. Fungus.
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