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MrFlibble posted:I find it distasteful to say someone is bad for buying a product that harms no one. The gay-propoganda law is the logical extension of that line of thinking. And maybe its ok to be like that when you are the one with the power to decide whats ok and whats not. Maybe your judgement is so perfect and pure that none could argue. Please don't compare somebody being rude to you on a forum to actual persecution of minorities. It's not respectful to people who genuinely live under repressive authorities.
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There is nothing more life affirming than fighting for equality (by punishing the purchase of triggering minis (by offering money to a website that kept a child molester on staff and then turned GBS into an alt-right hellhole))
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MrFlibble posted:Actually they've skipped that step. Now buying the non rapey poo poo is bad - because the dude also does gross poo poo. I am excited to see the next step on the decline of our freedoms. I see we've made it to the freeze peach section of the flowchart. Right on time.
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MrFlibble posted:Actually they've skipped that step. Now buying the non rapey poo poo is bad - because the dude also does gross poo poo. I am excited to see the next step on the decline of our freedoms. oh right i'm sorry you're merely a-ok with the rape figurines because rape figurines are totally unobjectionable and calling people out for their tacit support of rape figurines is literal government censorship and stealing are freedumbs and calling someone a lovely person for their tacit support of rape figurines is literally identical to government-sanctioned murder of gay people neongrey fucked around with this message at 04:00 on Nov 29, 2016 |
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MrFlibble posted:Actually they've skipped that step. Now buying the non rapey poo poo is bad - because the dude also does gross poo poo. I am excited to see the next step on the decline of our freedoms. you could have stopped looking at the thread where people were laughing at the board game you have no problems with instead of going to bat for it for deeply personal and awkward reasons yo know
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Sigma-X posted:Do ya'll get similarly worked up over horror movies or anything Giger or, like, Heironymus Bosch or is it just Kingdom Death? Well, I hope you put a magnet on Giger and Bosch and wrapped their coffins in wire to generate an endless supply of electricity from the spinning they are doing.
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TheLovablePlutonis posted:Burden of proof is on accuser So you don't a priori believe that these kinds of things have any sort of influence on how people end up treating women?
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I'm generally interested in how MrLikesKingdomDeath here thought this was going to play out when he started posting. Because I can't imagine how someone could come into this forum, and read this thread, and think we'd be all A-OK with dick lions and severed naked lady torsos and whatever the gently caress some of this other poo poo is.
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gradenko_2000 posted:So you don't a priori believe that these kinds of things have any sort of influence on how people end up treating women? There's no reason to lol
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Bedlamdan posted:There is nothing more life affirming than fighting for equality (by punishing the purchase of triggering minis (by offering money to a website that kept a child molester on staff and then turned GBS into an alt-right hellhole)) gently caress how did you know the sjw counterspell noooo :falls backwards through mirrors for eternity:
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neongrey posted:oh right i'm sorry you're merely a-ok with the rape figurines because rape figurines are totally unobjectionable and calling people out for their tacit support of rape figurines is literal government censorship and stealing are freedumbs Yes - you have characterized my argument superbly. Serf posted:I see we've made it to the freeze peach section of the flowchart. Right on time. If you could post the flow chart, that would be massively helpful to me. I'm actually having to think about why I object to stuff, a guide would be helpful. But for now I guess why I object to calling people who buy rape miniatures bad people is because it kills the conversation. It doesn't change anything. You get to feel smug about having told off the person with poor taste, the person goes and buys the rape miniature and just stops talking about it. It doesn't kill demand for gross poo poo, it just makes gross poo poo more secretive. Like if you can convince me that these stupid miniatures have a negative impact on the world citing some evidence then I would be able to use that information to better inform my purchases. As it is I live in the real world - where my buying a game that I will have no problem playing with my group is going to have no impact on the world at all. Alien Rope Burn posted:Please don't compare somebody being rude to you on a forum to actual persecution of minorities. It's not respectful to people who genuinely live under repressive authorities. I am sorry, you're right. Whats happening here is nowhere near, I kind of got caught up in myself. Kwyndig posted:I'm generally interested in how MrLikesKingdomDeath here thought this was going to play out when he started posting. Because I can't imagine how someone could come into this forum, and read this thread, and think we'd be all A-OK with dick lions and severed naked lady torsos and whatever the gently caress some of this other poo poo is. I kind of knew what the response would be. I am also not ok with dick lions and severed lady torsos - but I am ok with the stuff in the base game. It looks neat. Also the dung beetle knight, the flower knight and the dragon. And the vomiting fuckbaby sounds like it will be worth it just for the conversation i'll get with my group.
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Sigma-X posted:Do ya'll get similarly worked up over horror movies or anything Giger or, like, Heironymus Bosch or is it just Kingdom Death? Mother fucker are you about to start digging into Kingdom Death and the deep artistic merit of the titty monster or do you have nothing more to say than "Heironymus Bosch painted Satan's butthole for the church so please stop making fun of me" because that is a busted rear end comparison to make and you know it
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MrFlibble posted:If you could post the flow chart, that would be massively helpful to me. I'm actually having to think about why I object to stuff, a guide would be helpful. But for now I guess why I object to calling people who buy rape miniatures bad people is because it kills the conversation. It doesn't change anything. You get to feel smug about having told off the person with poor taste, the person goes and buys the rape miniature and just stops talking about it. It doesn't kill demand for gross poo poo, it just makes gross poo poo more secretive. The impact you are having is in how you are giving money to a creator who perpetuates gross poo poo. Your money will directly enable them to continue creating things that further normalize sexualized violence. You don't get to pick and choose what your money goes towards in this situation. You get it all, sorry. Will your next "last post" actually be the last or will you continue showing your whole rear end for the thread?
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MrFlibble posted:I kind of knew what the response would be. I am also not ok with dick lions and severed lady torsos Realtalk, your posts have been insanely terrible and lovely throughout this entire discussion to the point where you should honestly feel embarrassed, but if you're really ~looking to be convinced~ then the simple fact is that it doesn't matter whether you aren't okay with dicklions and severed lady torsos when the money you spend goes towards someone who's gonna go right ahead and take your patronage as a sign of approval re: dicklions and severed lady torsos. That is basically the argument, that if you genuinely disapprove of the skeezier elements of the whole Kingdom Death thing then you should either A). not give them money even for the game that's supposedly not as bad because it all goes in the same direction at the end of the day or B). just straight up say "hey I don't actually give a poo poo, bite me," but if your actual attitude really is "I don't give a gently caress what y'all think of how I spend my money, I do what I want" then you should have just said so and left it at that instead of writing a dozen increasingly bad posts comparing the people in this thread giving you poo poo to the persecution of minorities around the globe which is the sort of thing an rear end in a top hat does.
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Bad person chiming in again. I hate all the titty model garbage as much as anyone else. When I see people with them it honestly makes me intensely uncomfortable. If someone found one in my house I would have to kill them and then myself to hide the shame (sarcastic joke). I don't own any and never will. All that said, I think the base game and the dragon expansion they showed looked cool, so I'm going to buy it. I've played a bunch of other fantasy dungeon crawl survival types games. I really like the genre, but all of the ones I've played so far end up getting boring quick. The idea of a game combining miniature combat + city building + oregon trail + dark souls type gameplay makes me want to buy it in spite of the ultra cringe booby models. I'll throw the topless naked ladies that come with into the garbage disposal and then assemble and paint the rest. So, like I said before, I guess that makes me a bad person. That's ok though, because I was never under the illusion I wasn't.
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Nuns with Guns posted:gently caress how did you know the sjw counterspell noooo I mean, it's kind of undeniable fact that SA collectively inspired more rape and death than even a dozen supplements of Lamentations of the Flame Princess so if giving money to buy good minis from someone who also makes bad minis is still bad, why is it good to give money to people who keep on learning nothing after doing bad poo poo, over and over. Makes u think. I don't even care about board games.
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Serf posted:The impact you are having is in how you are giving money to a creator who perpetuates gross poo poo. Your money will directly enable them to continue creating things that further normalize sexualized violence. You don't get to pick and choose what your money goes towards in this situation. You get it all, sorry. Are you having as much fun as me? Right - your point. I don't like gross poo poo. But I have no objection to it existing. I think most people are smart enough to know the difference between fantasy and reality. And this normalizing stuff? The main example of gross poo poo we've been talking about is the headless corpse of a naked women being used as a bookstand. The whole point of it is that it is not normal. Thats the reaction the guy wants. This is hosed up poo poo, look at it! The dangerous stuff, if you believe art is ever dangerous (I don't) would be the pin-up models. Those are depressingly normal. Kai Tave posted:Realtalk, Ok then. I agree I have spoken poorly. I don't want to own the dick lion or severed lady thing. But I don't object to them existing. I have no problem with the people laughing at anything, or being creeped out - I have a problem with people being called bad for wanting those things. But I see where that is coming from now. I don't agree with you, sorry. Mugaaz posted:Bad person chiming in again. Same. But there are pledge levels that don't have the gross stuff in, just get that. No need to be wasteful.
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MrFlibble posted:Are you having as much fun as me? Yes, it is quite fun to see you showing everyone how much of a colossal moron you are lmao
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Sigma-X posted:Do ya'll get similarly worked up over horror movies or anything Giger or, like, Heironymus Bosch or is it just Kingdom Death? Also Cannibal Corpse album covers? Honestly, the pearl-clutching going on in this thread at the moment is ridiculous. It's okay for things to exist even if they make you feel uncomfortable.
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Bedlamdan posted:I mean, it's kind of undeniable fact that SA collectively inspired more rape and death than even a dozen supplements of Lamentations of the Flame Princess so if giving money to buy good minis from someone who also makes bad minis is still bad, why is it good to give money to people who keep on learning nothing after doing bad poo poo, over and over. what the gently caress are you talking about
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Mugaaz posted:Bad person chiming in again. I hate all the titty model garbage as much as anyone else. When I see people with them it honestly makes me intensely uncomfortable. If someone found one in my house I would have to kill them and then myself to hide the shame (sarcastic joke). I don't own any and never will. All that said, I think the base game and the dragon expansion they showed looked cool, so I'm going to buy it. I've played a bunch of other fantasy dungeon crawl survival types games. I really like the genre, but all of the ones I've played so far end up getting boring quick. The idea of a game combining miniature combat + city building + oregon trail + dark souls type gameplay makes me want to buy it in spite of the ultra cringe booby models. I'll throw the topless naked ladies that come with into the garbage disposal and then assemble and paint the rest. So, like I said before, I guess that makes me a bad person. That's ok though, because I was never under the illusion I wasn't. PSA but this is literally all anyone needs to say if they even feel the urge to get dragged into a loving argument over this instead of just pledging to a thing and not feeling the need to announce it to everybody. "Hey I like part of this, I guess the rest sucks and all, but I don't care because I still want that one part, oh well." Things not to do include going on a twelve-post meltdown comparing people bagging on you for funding tittyminiatures to the actual persecution of minorities in an attempt to own busybody SJWs. Directed specifically at you, I'll once again say that disregarding anything and everything to do with tits, torsos, and dicklions, everything I've heard anybody say about the Kingdom Death boardgame is that it does not live up to the sort of fantasy that it's trying to sell you on. The boss fight system is kind of innovative but also flawed, the game is full of random pitfalls that punish you arbitrarily, and the city building aspect just isn't all that rich or deep. Like you can buy it if you want, I've got no real skin in this beyond offering up my opinion that I've heard the game itself is largely kind of boring and occasionally frustrating and kind of a big letdown for all the buildup it received, and if you're looking for a dungeon crawling fantasy game with tactical combat and some city-building elements then for $99 you can preorder Gloomhaven which has had some fairly positive pre-release covering thus far and should be coming out early next year.
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Alaois posted:what the gently caress are you talking about look at who you are replying to
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Alaois posted:what the gently caress are you talking about Stuff like how that one dude on Debate and Discussion was distributing child porn, and a bunch of people there started defending him when other people found out. Lots of stuff like that...
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Bedlamdan posted:Stuff like how that one dude on Debate and Discussion was distributing child porn, and a bunch of people there started defending him when other people found out. Alaois posted:what the gently caress are you talking about
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Alaois posted:I seriously feel like we're seconds away from someone in this thread starting to earnestly defend guro hentai Not me, it's on my exh tag blacklist.
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Kai Tave posted:PSA but this is literally all anyone needs to say if they even feel the urge to get dragged into a loving argument over this instead of just pledging to a thing and not feeling the need to announce it to everybody. "Hey I like part of this, I guess the rest sucks and all, but I don't care because I still want that one part, oh well." Things not to do include going on a twelve-post meltdown comparing people bagging on you for funding tittyminiatures to the actual persecution of minorities in an attempt to own busybody SJWs. I saw people play through lantern year 1 and 2 on youtube and that's what sold me on the game. It looked like exactly what I hoped it would be. As far as random bullshit killing you, I hate that stuff too. However, almost all games I've played include that to some degree. Even in some of my favorite games like Warmachine and Infinity it happens from time to time. To some extent any game that uses dice or cards to simulate events is going to have some minimal level of BS. Also, there are quite a few non titty games that people seem to love that are absolute pure RNG garbage where every decision you make is meaningless. I'm only pledged for the base game at $200. Even if it ends up being a dud the non-tits miniatures will provide some level of value. I will check out Gloomhaven.
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Serf posted:Yes, it is quite fun to see you showing everyone how much of a colossal moron you are lmao Well laugh now, because one day you won't be allowed to laugh at me for being dumb. It will be mental age shaming to declare me an idiot, and then we'll see whos laughing. Kai Tave posted:PSA but this is literally all anyone needs to say if they even feel the urge to get dragged into a loving argument over this instead of just pledging to a thing and not feeling the need to announce it to everybody. "Hey I like part of this, I guess the rest sucks and all, but I don't care because I still want that one part, oh well." Things not to do include going on a twelve-post meltdown comparing people bagging on you for funding tittyminiatures to the actual persecution of minorities in an attempt to own busybody SJWs. There was this comic out there where a guy says to another man 'you mad' and then says that he has won because you can't argue against it. If someone knows what I am talking about, could you please post it. It feels appropriate. And I am really sorry about comparing it to the persecution of real life minorities. I mean to start with I was completely wrong in addition to it being disrespectful. But I never said anything about SJWs, or busybodies. Also https://techraptor.net/content/kingdom-death-monster-review-unparalleled this guy seems to like it.
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MrFlibble posted:Well laugh now, because one day you won't be allowed to laugh at me for being dumb. It will be mental age shaming to declare me an idiot, and then we'll see whos laughing. I dunno what this incoherent rambling has to do with what I said, but okay dawg. MrFlibble posted:Also https://techraptor.net/content/kingdom-death-monster-review-unparalleled this guy seems to like it. Ah yes, these Gamergate-asskissers love the titty murder gore game. Color me surprised.
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Mugaaz posted:It looked like exactly what I hoped it would be. As far as random bullshit killing you, I hate that stuff too. However, almost all games I've played include that to some degree. Even in some of my favorite games like Warmachine and Infinity it happens from time to time. To some extent any game that uses dice or cards to simulate events is going to have some minimal level of BS. Also, there are quite a few non titty games that people seem to love that are absolute pure RNG garbage where every decision you make is meaningless. I'm only pledged for the base game at $200. Even if it ends up being a dud the non-tits miniatures will provide some level of value. I will check out Gloomhaven. One of the cool things about your characters dying in Kingdom Death is that it's more about building your society than it is about individually strong characters. It always sucks losing a buff character but you can just put all your gear on a fresh one as long as you don't run out of population. There are even story things like the Twilight Longsword or Kings Man armor that force a character to die sooner but make them really powerful. Some of the stuff (saviors especially) was really imbalanced but it's supposedly getting looked at in the 1.5 update which is cool.
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Serf posted:Ah yes, these Gamergate-asskissers love the titty murder gore game. Color me surprised. Ominous Jazz posted:Yeah, no poo poo, the gamer gate reviewer in perpetual adolescence loves that game. NO!!!
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Serf posted:Ah yes, these Gamergate-asskissers love the titty murder gore game. Color me surprised. Ominous Jazz posted:Yeah, no poo poo, the gamer gate reviewer in perpetual adolescence loves that game. So rather than admitting that there are some positive things about the game, or rebutting those points - you attack the reviewer. Ok. See, I enjoy talking about Kingdom Death, i'm looking forward to it now. Why the gently caress are you still talking about it?
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I just think like, if you walk into a place where people are going 'this thing is creepy' and you go 'i have no problem at all with the creepy thing' and people go 'that's very creepy of you to say', that's a logical outcome of the thing you said.
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MrFlibble posted:So rather than admitting that there are some positive things about the game, or rebutting those points - you attack the reviewer. Ok. See, I enjoy talking about Kingdom Death, i'm looking forward to it now. Why the gently caress are you still talking about it? PROBABLY BECAUSE YOU WON'T gently caress OFF, OH MY GOD
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Bedlamdan posted:http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3732905&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1 I can't speak for everyone but i mostly post about comics and dumb D&D games and finding another forum half as bearable on these topics that also lets me call someone dumb/creepy without getting banned for ~rude tones~ is pretty challenging
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MrFlibble posted:So rather than admitting that there are some positive things about the game, or rebutting those points - you attack the reviewer. Ok. See, I enjoy talking about Kingdom Death, i'm looking forward to it now. Why the gently caress are you still talking about it? ...because you keep posting about how much you love the rear end blood horror game. Is there a Kingdom Death thread? I think the fans need a safe space.
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