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Serf
May 5, 2011


MrFlibble posted:

What are you doing here? Are you mocking the concept of safe spaces or are you admitting that they are a useful tool? I honestly don't know, can you please clear that up for me?

Very much the latter. I want a nice place for Kingdom Death fans to go and talk about their gross dismembered women furniture game in peace. I think this is something they need quite a lot.

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Bedlamdan
Apr 25, 2008

Hellthread /tg/ edition? :smithicide:

Nuns with Guns posted:

I can't speak for everyone but i mostly post about comics and dumb D&D games and finding another forum half as bearable on these topics that also lets me call someone dumb/creepy without getting banned for ~rude tones~ is pretty challenging

I mean, I'm not going to judge you for that. I'm personally just weirded out by people who pay :10bux: to dysfunctional people to punish other people for being, well, dysfunctional and posted something snarky about it. Now, here we are...

(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008

i was told my old av was distracting
If I drew a comparison between supporting Kingdom Death and supporting Donald Trump, and saying you're ambivalent about the abhorrent poo poo that comes along with that, would that be Godwin, or do you specifically have to mention Hitler

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

I like that Kingdom Death exists because it makes me feel better about my qualified, grudging defense of the conan boardgame. I mean, it puts things into perspective, a little.

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

MrFlibble posted:

And I am the one having a meltdown :smugdon:

you do seem a bit bothered

Bedlamdan posted:

I mean, I'm not going to judge you for that. I'm personally just weirded out by people who pay :10bux: to dysfunctional people to punish other people for being, well, dysfunctional.

are you like, specifically talking about someone buying you that avatar? because the only one who can explain that is the anonymous person who bought it

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib

Serf posted:

Very much the latter. I want a nice place for Kingdom Death fans to go and talk about their gross dismembered women furniture game in peace. I think this is something they need quite a lot.

Yeah but the way you're saying it makes me think you're mocking them. Its not very nice to mock the people who need a safe space. It's you who has such a problem with tit miniatures that you don't even want people buying from the people who make them, let alone the tit miniatures themselves.

signalnoise posted:

If I drew a comparison between supporting Kingdom Death and supporting Donald Trump, and saying you're ambivalent about the abhorrent poo poo that comes along with that, would that be Godwin

Except supporting trump has led to a real, measurable increase in hate crimes and supporting kingdom death has led... to a few panties being twisted? Normalization is a bullshit word. You can argue everything is monstrous with it. Everything except the stalest, blandest poo poo in the world.

Leperflesh posted:

I like that Kingdom Death exists because it makes me feel better about my qualified, grudging defense of the conan boardgame. I mean, it puts things into perspective, a little.

Its still a male power fantasy that objectifies women my friend. Just because its not as bad doesn't mean you won't get the condemnation.

Nuns with Guns posted:

you do seem a bit bothered

Nah. I'm in the something awful traditional games forum amusing myself - ooh err.

MrFlibble fucked around with this message at 05:24 on Nov 29, 2016

Serf
May 5, 2011


MrFlibble posted:

Yeah but the way you're saying it makes me think you're mocking them. Its not very nice to mock the people who need a safe space. It's you who has such a problem with tit miniatures that you don't even want people buying from the people who make them, let alone the tit miniatures themselves.

Oh I'm definitely mocking people like you who defend the titties and torture porn grossout game. After all, it's you who has such a problem with people judging you for your poor consumer choices that you don't want anyone to disagree with you and feel the need to continue posting long after your self-declared "last post".

Ettin
Oct 2, 2010
:yikes:

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

MrFlibble posted:

Nah. I'm in the something awful traditional games forum amusing myself - ooh err.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnKhsTXoKCI

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib

Serf posted:

Oh I'm definitely mocking people like you who defend the titties and torture porn grossout game. After all, it's you who has such a problem with people judging you for your poor consumer choices that you don't want anyone to disagree with you and feel the need to continue posting long after your self-declared "last post".

Yeah, that last post was a bit of a stupid thing to say. Can't change the past, live and learn.


I honestly believe everything I've typed.

Serf
May 5, 2011


MrFlibble posted:

Nah. I'm in the something awful traditional games forum amusing myself - ooh err.

ptpm (posts to puppetmaster): 20 lol


MrFlibble posted:

Yeah, that last post was a bit of a stupid thing to say. Can't change the past, live and learn.

Yeah, it's okay. One day you'll grow up. We're all rooting for you.

signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008

i was told my old av was distracting
At some point you have to realize the difference between art meant to disturb you and the worst type of fanservice

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



Isn't it usually the "don't judge me for my titty game" guys who usually stoop to Red Text first? Somebody here on team kinkshame really dropped the ball in terms of maturity.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib

signalnoise posted:

At some point you have to realize the difference between art meant to disturb you and the worst type of fanservice

The pin up models are fanservice. The dicklion is gross out. Seems simple to me.

Base game contains neither.

signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008

i was told my old av was distracting

MrFlibble posted:

The pin up models are fanservice. The dicklion is gross out. Seems simple to me.

Base game contains neither.

Chick-fil-a sells a delicious sandwich but that doesn't make me feel good about giving money to people who are anti gay

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

MrFlibble posted:

Nah. I'm in the something awful traditional games forum amusing myself - ooh err.

Ok well I hope this all worked out like you wanted because :yikes:


e- dammit ettin!

Serf
May 5, 2011


signalnoise posted:

Chick-fil-a sells a delicious sandwich but that doesn't make me feel good about giving money to people who are anti gay

Haven't you heard? The people judging the titty death horror game are the ones who are anti-gay

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib

signalnoise posted:

Chick-fil-a sells a delicious sandwich but that doesn't make me feel good about giving money to people who are anti gay

Right - except you seem to draw the line at 'makes gross poo poo' and I draw the line closer to 'people who are anti gay'.

I accept this makes me a monster.

signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008

i was told my old av was distracting
Have you bought the Dead Island Riptide collector's edition yet? Why not?

MrFlibble posted:

Right - except you seem to draw the line at 'makes gross poo poo' and I draw the line closer to 'people who are anti gay'.

I accept this makes me a monster.

Garbage Pail Kids are gross. Kingdom Death is demeaning.

Bedlamdan
Apr 25, 2008

Nuns with Guns posted:

are you like, specifically talking about someone buying you that avatar? because the only one who can explain that is the anonymous person who bought it

Oh, I honestly don't care about that, and hope it was a mod who did it so at least they didn't have to pay cash for it. Did you know that none of the mods outside maybe Lowtax have no real way of knowing who bought an avatar? You can put in all sorts of hosed up poo poo and not get punished, so I got off super EZ.

I was just making jokes at the expense of the dude who bought the avvie for Mr. Flibble and now we got here.

Terrible Opinions posted:

Isn't it usually the "don't judge me for my titty game" guys who usually stoop to Red Text first? Somebody here on team kinkshame really dropped the ball in terms of maturity.

What typically happens is, usually the guy everyone gets pissed off at is singled out and then gets red-texted, buys it off, only for someone else mad at him to buy something even worse.

signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008

i was told my old av was distracting
Why do you think it's the grossness that people have a problem with?

Mugaaz
Mar 1, 2008

WHY IS THERE ALWAYS SOME JUSTICE WARRIOR ON EVERY FORUM
:qq::qq::qq:

signalnoise posted:

Chick-fil-a sells a delicious sandwich but that doesn't make me feel good about giving money to people who are anti gay

I understand the part about not feeling good about buying from Chik-fil-a. However, there is also the part where you really want a good chicken sandwich and there is an awesome place down the corner that sells them called Chik-fil-a. While you'd prefer to buy a yummy chicken sandwich elsewhere, none of the local business offer anything you find equally yummy. Because of this, you buy your chicken sandwich from the cringy place while not agreeing with their views. I still manage to sleep at night.

some FUCKING LIAR
Sep 19, 2002

Fallen Rib
Meanwhile, adults aren't putting "yummy" above their principles.

Serf
May 5, 2011


Mugaaz posted:

I understand the part about not feeling good about buying from Chik-fil-a. However, there is also the part where you really want a good chicken sandwich and there is an awesome place down the corner that sells them called Chik-fil-a. While you'd prefer to buy a yummy chicken sandwich elsewhere, none of the local business offer anything you find equally yummy. Because of this, you buy your chicken sandwich from the cringy place while not agreeing with their views. I still manage to sleep at night.

on the one hand you don't need the chicken sandwich, and there are other options that would serve without contributing to lovely views

on the other hand there is no ethical consumption under capitalism so really y'all can go wild, there's really nothing else to be expected

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib

Bedlamdan posted:

What typically happens is, usually the guy everyone gets pissed off at is singled out and then gets red-texted, buys it off, only for someone else mad at him to buy something even worse.

Jokes on them, then. I'm much too cheap to buy a new avatar.

signalnoise posted:

Garbage Pail Kids are gross. Kingdom Death is demeaning.

I agree that the stuff i'm not buying is. But the armor kits make 2 men and 2 women survivors. I honestly would prefer 4 men because thats my group and i'm a sexist dudebro but the game is kind of equal.

Mugaaz posted:

I understand the part about not feeling good about buying from Chik-fil-a. However, there is also the part where you really want a good chicken sandwich and there is an awesome place down the corner that sells them called Chik-fil-a. While you'd prefer to buy a yummy chicken sandwich elsewhere, none of the local business offer anything you find equally yummy. Because of this, you buy your chicken sandwich from the cringy place while not agreeing with their views. I still manage to sleep at night.

Wait, I thought comparing this poo poo to real world persecution was a bad thing? Making demeaning models isn't the same as supporting anti-gay activities dudes.

some loving LIAR posted:

Meanwhile, adults aren't putting "yummy" above their principles.

None of my principles have been violated - unless you're offering :allears:

Bedlamdan
Apr 25, 2008

some loving LIAR posted:

Meanwhile, adults aren't putting "yummy" above their principles.

I'm sorry, yes, yes they are :negative:

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Serf posted:

on the one hand you don't need the chicken sandwich, and there are other options that would serve without contributing to lovely views

on the other hand there is no ethical consumption under capitalism so really y'all can go wild, there's really nothing else to be expected

I steal and pirate whatever product I can so I don't really care about whatever agenda is being pushed.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Stop buying redtexts for yourself Bedlamdan

Bedlamdan
Apr 25, 2008

TheLovablePlutonis posted:

Stop buying redtexts for yourself Bedlamdan


I didn't even buy off the old one. Stop giving away money, whoever this is :ohdear:

Ettin, i-is that you?

Helical Nightmares
Apr 30, 2009
Tanto Cuore is as exploitive as Kingdom Death.

Discuss.

signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008

i was told my old av was distracting

MrFlibble posted:

Wait, I thought comparing this poo poo to real world persecution was a bad thing? Making demeaning models isn't the same as supporting anti-gay activities dudes.

You're right, it's the same as demeaning women

Helical Nightmares posted:

Tanto Cuore is as exploitive as Kingdom Death.

Discuss.

I don't agree actually. Big difference in degree of exploitation

Mugaaz
Mar 1, 2008

WHY IS THERE ALWAYS SOME JUSTICE WARRIOR ON EVERY FORUM
:qq::qq::qq:

some loving LIAR posted:

Meanwhile, adults aren't putting "yummy" above their principles.

In my limited experience as an adult, it often requires putting things above my principles. My principle against titty models is that they are stupid and cringy. I don't agree that KD has caused significant emotional or physical harm and I think saying so is a stretch and makes light of things that are actually harmful. The biggest harm I see from KD I see is that it makes all people who play board games look like fools and makes me ashamed of the hobby. That harm weighs less than my desire to punch a lion in the dick.

signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008

i was told my old av was distracting
This


Is less exploitative than this

Serf
May 5, 2011


Helical Nightmares posted:

Tanto Cuore is as exploitive as Kingdom Death.

Discuss.

Stop making up words.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Will you fuckers all shut up about Kingdom Death so I can share project links without it getting lost in helldumps ta

Gumball Gumption
Jan 7, 2012

So I was looking for this thread to get more info on Kingdom Death and it looks like I found it. It looked demeaning but those monsters are really cool. Is the gameplay also bad? A shame that it is obviously going to get so much money if it is.

Edit: Read more of these thread, yeah this looks like bad poo poo and good art being wasted.

Gumball Gumption fucked around with this message at 06:00 on Nov 29, 2016

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib

signalnoise posted:

You're right, it's the same as demeaning women

Good point - that had completely slipped past me. I'm being completely honest, I hadn't actually considered that art demeaning women is the work of some one demeaning women.

Luckily women are demeaned everywhere and in everything and so I don't have to feel guilty about buying the parts of the game that aren't demeaning. Its better than the conan game in that respect, ignoring everything else about the creators :smug:

signalnoise posted:

This


Is less exploitative than this


...but both are exploitative and all women should be fully clothed and 'shot' in a way that de-emphasizes the male gaze aspect, regardless of the target audience because society is made up of idiots who have no basic empathy?

NTRabbit posted:

Will you fuckers all shut up about Kingdom Death so I can share project links without it getting lost in helldumps ta

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQFxmAdyKcg (I'll link whatever you do in any helldump post I make)

Mugaaz
Mar 1, 2008

WHY IS THERE ALWAYS SOME JUSTICE WARRIOR ON EVERY FORUM
:qq::qq::qq:

signalnoise posted:

This


Is less exploitative than this


You really think so? Don't you have to actually derive profit or advantage to exploit? The first is accepted, and because of it can derive a real benefit ($$), and is still going strong. The second one is stupid garbage that everyone ridiculed and was not able to sustain it's business model. I find the second picture more offensive, but that's not the same thing, is it?

Mugaaz
Mar 1, 2008

WHY IS THERE ALWAYS SOME JUSTICE WARRIOR ON EVERY FORUM
:qq::qq::qq:

Gumball Gumption posted:

So I was looking for this thread to get more info on Kingdom Death and it looks like I found it. It looked demeaning but those monsters are really cool. Is the gameplay also bad? A shame that it is obviously going to get so much money if it is.

I watched the BeastsOfWar playthrough for year 1 and year 2 of the game to decide that I thought the gameplay actually looked really good. Some people strongly disagree. I recommend watching it yourself to see what you think.

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Serf
May 5, 2011


Gumball Gumption posted:

So I was looking for this thread to get more info on Kingdom Death and it looks like I found it. It looked demeaning but those monsters are really cool. Is the gameplay also bad? A shame that it is obviously going to get so much money if it is.

Turns out bad things make lots of money.

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