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I guess in Zelda games you're Link, who is a known personality that you just happen to control. in pokemon you're just That Trainer until the game canonizes them a few gens later when you refight them so they dont want to ascribe a personality onto your avatar? idk. it looks bad though.
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This be fair the player character does have one other expression :0 I think that one is used twice in the whole game
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Nov 29, 2016 08:46
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Countblanc posted:I guess in Zelda games you're Link, who is a known personality that you just happen to control. in pokemon you're just That Trainer until the game canonizes them a few gens later when you refight them so they dont want to ascribe a personality onto your avatar? idk. it looks bad though. The only previous player who's ever shown up again is Red, right? I think you're right about Gamefreak just wanting to stick with the idea of the protagonist being an avatar and nothing else though. But with the stories getting more involved and characters becoming more expressive and everything, it doesn't quite work out. But i'd say the protagonist is probably one of the least important characters to get right as long as Gamefreak wants to use them as silent avatars, since they're bound to be the least interesting character anyway.
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Nov 29, 2016 08:46
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Bring in Gold or "Ethan" as he's called now; his endgame was kicking Red's rear end
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Nov 29, 2016 08:50
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Just read Pokémon special if you want emotive player characters imo
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Nov 29, 2016 08:56
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I appreciate Sun/Moon turning Red's silence into an actual personality trait
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Nov 29, 2016 08:57
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ROFL Octopus posted:Bring in Gold or "Ethan" as he's called now; his endgame was kicking Red's rear end fuuuck it would've been awesome if at battle tree when challenged by Blue/Red you make your choice... and then Gold comes striding in, has a staredown with Red and then it's a battle royale between the four of you
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Nov 29, 2016 08:58
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One of my favorite things in this game is getting good nicknames for other people's stuff when I flood wonder trade with Mimikyus and Feebases and stuff. I've gotten some Japanese nicknamed things this way, and since I keep almost everything with a nickname, I wanted to know what they said. Since I don't speak a word of Japanese, I got my friends to help me out, and turns out I got two particularly amazing nicknames: an Alolan Meowth named 'futtocho', which is apparently slang along the lines of 'fatty,' and a Wingull named Peli-san. Even on the other side of the world, naming your Pokemon dumb poo poo is a tradition, and that warms my heart. Daeren fucked around with this message at 09:12 on Nov 29, 2016 |
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Nov 29, 2016 09:06
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El Burbo posted:Just read Pokémon special if you want emotive player characters imo Now that Gamefreak's started making characters with actual personality it's weird going to Pokemon Special and seeing those same characters with a completely different actual personality. I don't know if reading Special Sun Moon would be worth things like My Boy Guzma, not being the exact same as he is in game.
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Nov 29, 2016 09:06
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I just reminded myself that the Sun Moon arc of Pokémon special and the first chapter came out today
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Nov 29, 2016 09:07
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Mazerunner posted:fuuuck it would've been awesome if at battle tree when challenged by Blue/Red you make your choice... and then Gold comes striding in, has a staredown with Red and then it's a battle royale between the four of you That would make the Battle Royal fun and cool though, and I'm not sure that fits into the design philosophy.
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Nov 29, 2016 09:13
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I'd rather have actually cool and interesting characters return than any of the players.
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Nov 29, 2016 09:13
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What do the blue/yellow/orange shapes on the Pokemon summary screen mean? Like obviously they correlate somehow with the pokemon's stats, but I'm not sure what exactly they are. EVs?
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Nov 29, 2016 09:13
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SyntheticPolygon posted:I'd rather have actually cool and interesting characters return than any of the players. Red was a cool and awesome surprise at the end of G/S, it's just I wish you could fight more past MCs. Hilbert and Hilda imo would be especially cool to fight.
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Nov 29, 2016 09:20
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I saw Wooden Hammer for the first time and I laughed heartily. And then I saw Retaliate. 
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Daeren posted:One of my favorite things in this game is getting good nicknames for other people's stuff when I flood wonder trade with Mimikyus and Feebases and stuff. I've gotten some Japanese nicknamed things this way, and since I keep almost everything with a nickname, I wanted to know what they said. Since I don't speak a word of Japanese, I got my friends to help me out, and turns out I got two particularly amazing nicknames: an Alolan Meowth named 'futtocho', which is apparently slang along the lines of 'fatty,' and a Wingull named Peli-san. I wonder if they knew how clever this is in English. I'm guessing they did.  Also, holy crap is the Ghost Trial Gastly with Hypnosis/Mean Look/Curse/Confuse Ray a son of a bitch. The game really knows how to take the gloves off when it wants to.
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SyntheticPolygon posted:The only previous player who's ever shown up again is Red, right? One of my favorite RPGs is Dragon Quest 8. That had a silent protagonist, even more so than Sun and Moon but they sure as poo poo didn't skimp on the expressions. And I never felt like I was playing a plank. Like I get the idea but really there is no excuse for this, hopefully by Eclipse/Stars they fix it.
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vOv posted:What do the blue/yellow/orange shapes on the Pokemon summary screen mean? Like obviously they correlate somehow with the pokemon's stats, but I'm not sure what exactly they are. EVs? The first page with just the blue hexagon is the actual stat number. The second page the yellow I think might be the base stat and the secondary color is the EVs. If EVs are maxed it's blue, otherwise it's orange. If a stat's EVs are maxed the word sparkles.
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Flopsy posted:One of my favorite RPGs is Dragon Quest 8. That had a silent protagonist, even more so than Sun and Moon but they sure as poo poo didn't skimp on the expressions. And I never felt like I was playing a plank. Like I get the idea but really there is no excuse for this, hopefully by Eclipse/Stars they fix it. Dragon Quest 8 was handcrafted piece by piece by God himself so idk if that's a fair comparison
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Nov 29, 2016 09:36
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Flopsy posted:One of my favorite RPGs is Dragon Quest 8. That had a silent protagonist, even more so than Sun and Moon but they sure as poo poo didn't skimp on the expressions. And I never felt like I was playing a plank. Like I get the idea but really there is no excuse for this, hopefully by Eclipse/Stars they fix it. You're right but although the protagonist of DQ8 is silent he is an actual character. He has things going on and a backstory and important connections to the world. There's a world of difference between a silent protagonist and the blank slate player avatar Gamefreak seems to want Pokemon's protagonists to be. But like you said, there's still no reason Gamefreak couldn't have made them express actual emotions or at least react to things, even if they don't want them to have a concrete character or anything.
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Nov 29, 2016 09:39
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I thought the snap cut between Gladion going  , Hau going  , and the PC going  after fighting Faba the second time was one of the funniest moments of the game.
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Nov 29, 2016 09:44
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Daeren posted:I thought the snap cut between Gladion going It's real good.
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Daeren posted:I thought the snap cut between Gladion going Yeah, that was fantastic. Please tell me someone has a gif of it. 
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Daeren posted:I thought the snap cut between Gladion going Faba getting owned by Hau pointing out the hole in his plan was amazing.
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To be honest I'd rather be the least interesting part of the game and maintain the ability to ascribe your own motives to the player character, rather than the player character becoming defined. The best part of Black And White was that, while the game interpreted my relationship with N as being one of friends, I instead got to think that I was just sick of his poo poo, I got to deny using Reshriam against him and broke his dream over my knees to help him move on with his life. I was "Friends" with him by being the only person around him who was going to smack his hand and tell him he was being a twit, and I only went looking for him in B2W2 so I could make sure he didn't screw anywhere else up. If they ascribed more personality to the protagonist, then that bit of personal story telling could be lost for a generic friendship with N.
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Nov 29, 2016 10:03
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The Battle Tree has super battles!?  I thought they were starting you out on that level this time, with how rough the trainers are out of the gate. I need a far better team setup if I'm losing to the easy trainers.
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Nov 29, 2016 10:09
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I don't think theres any way you can really prep for the Battle Royale. Sometimes they just all turn on you or the thing you want to kill either dies before or after you attack it. E: to those who still haven't gotten a Destiny Knot from me will get one later today when I have spare time, I still have some friend codes I need to add.
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With all these goons talking about randomly encountering shinies around every corner, I'm convinced that it works like relationships: the more desperately you want one, the less likely you are to get it. (Beldum count is approaching 800.  )That Old Ganon posted:I've got a bunch of breeding rejects lying around and would like to know if anyone's interested in them before I WT them all. FC 3325-3410-1572, IGN tyb felch me daddy jr. fucked around with this message at 11:44 on Nov 29, 2016 |
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Flopsy posted:If we can be free of the derp face then I'll accept that limitation. Choose your own facial expression at certain moments in a cutscene Alignment points in a pokemon game
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Raserys posted:Choose your own facial expression at certain moments in a cutscene Let us choose our expression with the D-pad. Let us make every cutscene the best cutscene.
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Dr. Fetus posted:For the people trying to get a Destiny Knot through pickup, just be aware that if they didn't change anything about Pickup or the tables (The 10% Pickup rate after winning a battle, and the 1% chance to get a Destiny Knot on top of that), your chances of getting at least 1 Destiny Knot after any given battle with 5 Pickup Pokemon is a measly 0.049% chance. Having 6 Pokemon with Pickup increases that chance to 0.05822% instead. You might be better off just farming up the BP or just getting someone to give you one instead. Glad I didn't see this before I went Pickup farming, otherwise I might not have tried. I had five Meowths and it took less than ten minutes. By contrast, it took two loving hours of savescumming berry piles to find my first Crabrawler. Probability is a messed up thing.
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Say, how do the global missions work? Do you get a reward just for participating or do you need to reach a certain threshold? I noticed the info screen said something about 200 Pokémon and I'm not sure if I can be bothered to catch 200 wild Pokémon just for FC 
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I hope fanart's ok because I saw these and thought they were real cute. (All from http://dc9spot.tumblr.com/ )   
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sun moon singles meta is gonna own, almost to the pt where i think gf had singles in mind to some degree when designing new mons. pheramosa and aegi need to go, just about everything else is some degree of dealable at the moment but those two are stupid to the pt where its not even worth considering them when building teams because you have to compensate to such a dumb degree.
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Nov 29, 2016 13:26
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What do people think of Oranguru? Statwise it reminds me of Slowbro, but with not as good typing. Is it solely a doubles-guy cause of instruct? It feels a little too fast for Trick room.
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tbp posted:sun moon singles meta is gonna own, almost to the pt where i think gf had singles in mind to some degree when designing new mons. pheramosa and aegi need to go, just about everything else is some degree of dealable at the moment but those two are stupid to the pt where its not even worth considering them when building teams because you have to compensate to such a dumb degree. how soon we forget garchomp's reign
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Emalde posted:how soon we forget garchomp's reign garchomps been good but not like ludicrous for ages. its a glue mon, it fits on a lot of teams but it's never something where you roll up to a game like oh noo he has a garchomp
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tbp posted:garchomps been good but not like ludicrous for ages. its a glue mon, it fits on a lot of teams but it's never something where you roll up to a game like oh noo he has a garchomp it was, 10 years ago, and history repeats in cycles. there is a always a despot
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