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Heer98
Apr 10, 2009

MetaJew posted:

I was in Seoul a few weeks ago and saw how every bike messenger had a custom bezel and at least two phones plugged in but I had no idea what they were used for. I initially assumed one was a personal phone and the other was for work. Can you share any more details about them?

Nope, just know about the multiple phone thing from stuff like uber/lyft in the US.

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Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

peak debt posted:

I'm kind of wondering what those women's long term plans are though.

At least in Thailand and Cambodia you know they do it for the cash, but an ad executive in China can probably live quite well on her own salary.

While she will definitely not be starving, it's unlikely that she will be enjoying a lifestyle 1/10th as extravagant as she had hoped. The fact that she is a "she" is a big red flag when it comes to working in the Chinese corporate world. Unless she is working for a woman CEO or working for one of those progressive male bosses (don't exist) she will have to put up with the following.

-significant wage inequity compared to her male co-workers (I'm not talking "75% of", but males making 2-3x more than women for the exact same job title)
-longer hours in-office while males are out (on the clock) getting wasted and trashing hookers
-quality of work differing compared to the men (more assistant/maid/gopher types jobs, less actual advertising)
-having to do prep work and clean up after her male co-workers
-not being given good work/opportunities, and then this lack of good work being the excuse given why she can't get paid like everyone else

I'm sure Haier's boss would have some amazing insight into this kind of stuff.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

wow cyberpunk is real.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Baronjutter posted:

This show and a similar quality WWII show about killing japanese (which aren't even human) are the only 2 shows china produces.

There are also copies of Korean game/reality shows where there's 20 minutes of content stretched out to an hour and a half.

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

Grand Fromage posted:

There are also copies of Korean game/reality shows where there's 20 minutes of content stretched out to an hour and a half.

considering about half of those original 20 minutes are repeating things with wacky sound effects or celebrities going "우아~~~~" while making amazed faces, that sound like quality entertainment

fish and chips and dip
Feb 17, 2010

Oberleutnant posted:

I was in my local chinese takeaway last night watching some historical tvshow called Heroes of the Tang Dynasty or something. It was obviously modern and somehow managed to look expensive (filmed in HD, large sets and lots of sweeping shots) and cheap as gently caress with all the actors in crappy plastic armor, bad choreoraphy and worse-than-ikea furniture that collapsed at the merest touch in the fight scenes.

Was kinda entertaining for the 15 minutes i watched it, even though i couldn't understand a single word because it was all in foreign. Is it at all popular in China? It kind of looked like some cheap spanish telenovella in its own way.

What annoys me the most watching Chinese TV shows is the super wooden acting. It's like watching a bunch of high schoolers trying way too hard to be ~actors~ during a school play.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

fish and chips and dip posted:

What annoys me the most watching Chinese TV shows is the super wooden acting. It's like watching a bunch of high schoolers trying way too hard to be ~actors~ during a school play.

Yeah they seem to be really clueless on the nuances of acting and always go into overacting mode.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

fish and chips and dip posted:

What annoys me the most watching Chinese TV shows is the super wooden acting. It's like watching a bunch of high schoolers trying way too hard to be ~actors~ during a school play.

I personally don't enjoy the "two characters see each other, put on bad surprised face for 30 seconds, shot-reverse-shots until freezeframe and program logo"

yaffle
Sep 15, 2002

Flapdoodle

I've been in one of these taxis, except every screen was showing the same thing. I'd also like to note that the big-rear end mirror is also a screen connected to a back-up camera.

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

fish and chips and dip posted:

What annoys me the most watching Chinese TV shows is the super wooden acting. It's like watching a bunch of high schoolers trying way too hard to be ~actors~ during a school play.

Thai TV has these constant cartoon sound effects behind their dramas. Like the fat guy looks around the corner and BOIOIOING spring sound then the girl he's looking at notices him looking and PEEP POO PEEP POO cuckoo clock noise on cut to his fat startled face.

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Sheep-Goats posted:

Thai TV has these constant cartoon sound effects behind their dramas. Like the fat guy looks around the corner and BOIOIOING spring sound then the girl he's looking at notices him looking and PEEP POO PEEP POO cuckoo clock noise on cut to his fat startled face.

have you ever seen big bang theory?

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!



This is Good China (Hong Kong), not Bad China or Best China

I'm trying to work out where it is because it seems like somewhere I've been. Then again it isn't exactly an uncommon looking place

E: hey Jimmy has his phone number in the picture, I can call him next time I need a cab

simplefish fucked around with this message at 03:20 on Nov 30, 2016

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

Fauxtool posted:

have you ever seen big bang theory?

I've only seen clips on YouTube and it's really bad

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

simplefish posted:

This is Good China (Hong Kong), not Bad China or Best China

I'm trying to work out where it is because it seems like somewhere I've been. Then again it isn't exactly an uncommon looking place

E: hey Jimmy has his phone number in the picture, I can call him next time I need a cab

Kowloon airport express station taxi stand

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

simplefish posted:

This is Good China (Hong Kong), not Bad China or Best China

I'm trying to work out where it is because it seems like somewhere I've been. Then again it isn't exactly an uncommon looking place

E: hey Jimmy has his phone number in the picture, I can call him next time I need a cab

Wait is Taiwan best China now?

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Atlas Hugged posted:

Wait is Taiwan best China now?

Taiwan #1

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

yaffle posted:

I've been in one of these taxis, except every screen was showing the same thing. I'd also like to note that the big-rear end mirror is also a screen connected to a back-up camera.

<every Korean taxi driver back in 2011>
<has media device playing go-stop (korean card game) online against other taxi drivers>
<has GPS map device playing a Korean soap opera>
<has his cell phone out and texting constantly>
<checks in with dispatch on his radio>
<looks at the road and where he is driving once ever 47 seconds>
<never gets into an accident>

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


caberham posted:

Kowloon airport express station taxi stand

I thought so. It's the flower pots and lights

LentThem
Aug 31, 2004

90% Retractible

fish and chips and dip posted:

What annoys me the most watching Chinese TV shows is the super wooden acting. It's like watching a bunch of high schoolers trying way too hard to be ~actors~ during a school play.

For some reason the audio mixing is also really bad. Like background music is inappropriately loud most times, sometimes drowning out the dialogue. Made more irritating when these shows only seem to have a playlist of five songs.

Silly onscreen moment song
Serious confrontation song
Ambitious moment song
Romantic moment song
Theme song when main characters lock eyes

Evil Agita
Feb 25, 2005

Lord Fool, give me another chance. I'll prove my strength to you!
I met a chick today that says she's a Hong konger but whenever I mentioned HK to her she had some poo poo to talk about it. Is it a thing for mainlanders abroad to pretend they are Hong kongers?

She literally said "Hong Kong is a part of china" to me like a total cliche. When I said she's the first Hong konger I've met to say that she told me something like "HK is a part of china and that is a fact and we cannot change history."

Does that sound like Hong konger talk to anyone? Genuinely curious as I only know a handful of HKers and they are all super anti china.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Evil Agita posted:

I met a chick today that says she's a Hong konger but whenever I mentioned HK to her she had some poo poo to talk about it. Is it a thing for mainlanders abroad to pretend they are Hong kongers?

She literally said "Hong Kong is a part of china" to me like a total cliche. When I said she's the first Hong konger I've met to say that she told me something like "HK is a part of china and that is a fact and we cannot change history."

Does that sound like Hong konger talk to anyone? Genuinely curious as I only know a handful of HKers and they are all super anti china.

I've met people that when asked say they're from Hong Kong, but it turns out they were from the mainland and just had a work visa or something for HK.

Pretty good
Apr 16, 2007



Fojar38 posted:

Taiwan #1
USA #4

fish and chips and dip
Feb 17, 2010

Evil Agita posted:

I met a chick today that says she's a Hong konger but whenever I mentioned HK to her she had some poo poo to talk about it. Is it a thing for mainlanders abroad to pretend they are Hong kongers?

She literally said "Hong Kong is a part of china" to me like a total cliche. When I said she's the first Hong konger I've met to say that she told me something like "HK is a part of china and that is a fact and we cannot change history."

Does that sound like Hong konger talk to anyone? Genuinely curious as I only know a handful of HKers and they are all super anti china.

There is a strong pro-Beijing camp in HK, so it's not unfeasible. Could also be someone from the mainland who moved to HK, or the child of a mainland couple born in HK and who then chose a HK over PRC passport. For the latter, I've met several mainlanders like that in Shanghai, born in HK, but who chose PRC passports when they turned 18.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


Haier posted:

China is the only place where I have women propose marriage to me, usually offering ME the house and car because they are wealthy or have good jobs, but local guys want younger and dumber (which is funny, because you'd think they'd appreciate a woman that knows how to handle money instead of blowing it all on clothes, iPhones, vacations, and purses and openly milking their wallets and bank accounts as part of the relationship).

I wonder if those guys will ever grow up enough to realize what they missed out on. Or it could just be that you're in the right place at the right time consistently and the poor Chinese guys who would love that to happen are just never in that situation.

But still, smart girls with money who know how to save rock. My gf is especially great because her parents are incredibly reasonable and totally alright with her marrying a laowai. They're probably partially glad she found someone after turning 30, but are also happy that I've got similar views on money to the older generation of Chinese who saved a lot.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

fish and chips and dip posted:

There is a strong pro-Beijing camp in HK, so it's not unfeasible. Could also be someone from the mainland who moved to HK, or the child of a mainland couple born in HK and who then chose a HK over PRC passport. For the latter, I've met several mainlanders like that in Shanghai, born in HK, but who chose PRC passports when they turned 18.

Some people just have strong ties to the HK government. A lot of civil servants hold British passports but still follow PRC policy.

1. Friend of mine was born in Canada, studied in the UK (subsidized by the HK government) and practices corporate law in Hong Kong. Her dad was the Director of Immigration Hong Kong and her mom was a school principal. Since her father was in a high position before the hand over, the family obtained UK citizenship. She was born in Canada and got Canadian citizenship as well! Oh and since HK is part of China now, she also has a HK-Chinese passport!

Pretty smart successful girl, and her family social circle is the upper circle of the HK government/big businesses/PRC government. They all love increased government spending, one belt one road, and greater cooperation between Hong Kong and China.

2. Another friend of mine works in corporate banking, she's directorate level for Asia Pacific Region and goes to China from time to time dealing with State owned Enterprises. Her family is typical Hong Kong middle class but she managed to get a degree in UCLA - BA Psychology and Economics. She worked her rear end off and climbed the corporate ladder. No, she didn't have to sleep with anyone but she does get quite a bit of unwanted advances. She deflects creepy dudes hitting on her by being super professional all the time.
They all have similar baseline opinions :

People just need to work harder for a better life instead of protesting for this and that.
Politics is bad and you shouldn't get too involved - everything is RIGGED. This is all just a geo-political game.
Most people are dumb and can't be trusted with democracy.
It's nice to see the world recognizing China because everyone else can't be/have less incentives to be as racist as before.
If you think immigrating to a foreign country will unlock job opportunities then you are dumb. There's a big glass ceiling for minorities. Whites will always be promoted before you do even with similar qualifications.
Don't get or give up US citizenship because global taxation blows.
I'm paying more taxes than everybody else, god drat poor people are abusing the system.
It sucks being a girl in the corporate world.
I want to quit my job and just open a cafe/small business but I need a bigger nest egg because most businesses are bound to fail.

This is the fun part, seeing the variations :

gently caress brown/black people messing around with the refugee claims process committing crimes while hiding behind the shield of human rights
Foreign governments loving suck and are not as good as our HK bureaucracy
HK is the crown jewel of China and would be a lot brighter if those protesters leave
Protesters are foreign agents or brainwashed by foreign media
Chinese State media is also a lie but we have inside information
China can only be stronger when America weakens.
There's no point in moving to the US with its retarded healthcare system

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
they sound fairly aware of the situation and it probably helps that they have traveled enough to make factual assessments whether something in a country is in fact better/worse.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

LentThem posted:

For some reason the audio mixing is also really bad. Like background music is inappropriately loud most times, sometimes drowning out the dialogue. Made more irritating when these shows only seem to have a playlist of five songs.

Silly onscreen moment song
Serious confrontation song
Ambitious moment song
Romantic moment song
Theme song when main characters lock eyes

This and the absolutely hideous cgi "cute" animal companions that get forgotten 20 episodes in are what kill me.

Each and everyone is an identical story since apparently China can watch infinite live action anime about magic sword men and the women who love them. That and shows about slaughtering Japanese occupying forces.

fish and chips and dip
Feb 17, 2010

Barudak posted:

This and the absolutely hideous cgi "cute" animal companions that get forgotten 20 episodes in are what kill me.

Each and everyone is an identical story since apparently China can watch infinite live action anime about magic sword men and the women who love them. That and shows about slaughtering Japanese occupying forces.

I've said it before, but the first Chinese movie I watched was some sort of fantasy epic, wooden acting, but it some cool special effects. The story was about retrieving some sort of a magical macguffin from some evil wizard. There were no refferences to any real world locations, until half way through, out of nowhere one of the characters goes "The Japanese are invading, we have to kill the Japanese!". So the movie became about this huge battle against the Japanese, the Japanese of course had no motivation or reason given in the movie for invading past "they're japanese".

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

Sheep-Goats posted:

Thai TV has these constant cartoon sound effects behind their dramas. Like the fat guy looks around the corner and BOIOIOING spring sound then the girl he's looking at notices him looking and PEEP POO PEEP POO cuckoo clock noise on cut to his fat startled face.

cool i didn't know radiolab had a tv show

Patrocclesiastes
Apr 30, 2009

Im having a job interview with a chinese company and it seems the interviewer is chinese as well here in Finland, any tips how to make the most face out of this

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
you tell him how much you envy the way china is doing whatever you are doing and you are honored to work with the top whatever you are doing.

Giving a Chinese the opportunity to feel superior to a white man will give him such a hardon

If you just want to have the most face then nod and smile and never get put in a situation where you can be wrong. If you make a mistake ignore it and continue to nod and smile.

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax

Blistex posted:

I'm sure Haier's boss would have some amazing insight into this kind of stuff.
Not really. She thinks, if possible, everyone should work for themselves here because China is corrupted and backwards and nobody will ever make money working for anyone else... which is true. People get paid a pittance to work 6 days a week, 10+ hour days while the company owner is taking 99.9999999% of money they earn for him.

When she got into her mostly-arranged marriage, she said they had absolutely nothing. She refused to work for offices because of the awful environment, so instead she got a small loan from a relative and bought some stuff to try to sell. It was stuff she was interested in and knew about, so she had no problem making a good sales pitch. Not your typical beauty product garbage, but a niche product she enjoyed herself and thought Chinese could accept in a growing market where online sales were becoming more common.
She started making sales immediately and then she expanded and started buying big apartments to put the products in (like warehouses, but better resale value), and now today she's self-made multi-millionaire (in USD or GBP or EURO).
Along the way she saw how retarded China is for business in terms of being ripped off and the cheating, and eventually her entire view of China itself went sour and now she just accepts that this is the place where she lives and earns money, but doesn't want her daughter or grandchildren to be stuck in this mess. She's very against the educational system, which is probably the main thing she hates so much about this country.

--------

I am supposed to have a date with this very nice, normal, lovely woman near my age who works in the medical industry (not TCM), and owns her own house and car, so she's not thirsting for any man to take care of her. She seems like a fine candidate for a normal relationship, and even was the one who asked me out first and showed interest from the start, but never once mentioned immediate marriage or children other factors that usually come with a 30 year old Chinese woman.
Everything was fine for the past week of talking until last night she asked why I, as an American, do not have blue eyes and blond hair. This is one of those questions that drives me up the wall because it's stupid as hell and whatever answer I give won't make any difference, unless I simply call them an idiot and then they get butthurt. Even asking them like "Why don't YOU have blue eyes and blonde hair?" is met with "I am Chinese and you are American."

Anyway, this turned the conversation into all the stupid poo poo people have said to me or about me, and then all the stupid poo poo people have done to me purposely because I am a foreigner. She refused to believe that Chinese can be so ignorant, and then got upset when I tried to convince her that everything I am saying is true. In true Chinese fashion she turned it back on me, blaming me for having such negative thoughts about Chinese people, so of course the universe will respond and make Chinese people say dumb things or do dumb things to me. Apparently Chinese people being ignorant is because I lack confidence in myself, and Chinese people treat the whole world equally. At least according to her.
From there, she changed our date into a "let's just be friends for now, because I don't know who you are." LMAO.

Then, today, with that fresh on my mind, I was having a walk and one of those guys with the gym fliers tried to hand me one and I gave a big smile and shook my head no while saying "No thank you," as I usually. I understand that job sucks and I am generally overly-polite to those people if need be. Anyway, he looked and me said in English "gently caress YOU."

Baronjutter posted:

I've met people that when asked say they're from Hong Kong, but it turns out they were from the mainland and just had a work visa or something for HK.
A bit ago I was talking to a girl and asked if she had ever traveled abroad after she had said she had traveled to a bunch of places in China. She said "Only to Hong Kong." I wasn't sure if she was joking, but we stopped talking shortly after and I deleted her.

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
if they ask why you dont have blue eyes and blond hair ask why her vagina isnt sideways

please dont probate me mods

Fauxtool fucked around with this message at 10:25 on Nov 30, 2016

Patrocclesiastes
Apr 30, 2009

Fauxtool posted:

you tell him how much you envy the way china is doing whatever you are doing and you are honored to work with the top whatever you are doing.

Giving a Chinese the opportunity to feel superior to a white man will give him such a hardon

If you just want to have the most face then nod and smile and never get put in a situation where you can be wrong. If you make a mistake ignore it and continue to nod and smile.

Then its probably better if I dont have too much good to say from my previous employment with a Taiwanese company?

Khorne
May 1, 2002
I don't know how common it is but multiple asian girls gave me poo poo for having light brown eyes. Dark brown eyes = real person (asian), blue eyes = american stereotype, light brown eyes = satan himself aka me. I mean I guess they are kind of hazel which is probably why. Maybe it was just a small sample of women that I had talked to for a while online before meeting and they made assumptions about my eye color that weren't true in real life.

Khorne fucked around with this message at 10:31 on Nov 30, 2016

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Patrocclesiastes posted:

Then its probably better if I dont have too much good to say from my previous employment with a Taiwanese company?

You should say it was a chinese company and if they ask where you say it was in taiwan implying that its part of china. Depending on how nationalistic he is it could have extremely positive results. I know it sounds simple minded, but there are a lot of chinese that really buy into the govt propaganda

If you get the job, go drinking with him asap. Tag team a few hookers and before you know it you will be married to a niece and set 4 lyfe living the chinese dream

Fauxtool fucked around with this message at 10:31 on Nov 30, 2016

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

Patrocclesiastes posted:

Im having a job interview with a chinese company and it seems the interviewer is chinese as well here in Finland, any tips how to make the most face out of this

What kind of company is it?

If it's a tech company then just be as blunt as possible. Don't kiss rear end.

Patrocclesiastes
Apr 30, 2009

Fauxtool posted:

You should say it was a chinese company and if they ask where you say it was in taiwan implying that its part of china. Depending on how nationalistic he is it could have extremely positive results. I know it sounds simple minded, but there are a lot of chinese that really buy into the govt propaganda

If you get the job, go drinking with him asap. Tag team a few hookers and before you know it you will be married to a niece and set 4 lyfe living the chinese dream

Thank you! Need to keep this in mind.

caberham posted:

What kind of company is it?

If it's a tech company then just be as blunt as possible. Don't kiss rear end.

Ocean freight, so container traffic.

LentThem
Aug 31, 2004

90% Retractible

Patrocclesiastes posted:

Im having a job interview with a chinese company and it seems the interviewer is chinese as well here in Finland, any tips how to make the most face out of this

if it's a chinese company with chinese managers and is not in china, just run
it's going to be a china-bubble of business practices and you are going to hate every day. there was a reddit post from a year ago about one of these companies in California and how terrible it was


Haier posted:

Anyway, this turned the conversation into all the stupid poo poo people have said to me or about me, and then all the stupid poo poo people have done to me purposely because I am a foreigner. She refused to believe that Chinese can be so ignorant, and then got upset when I tried to convince her that everything I am saying is true.

Haha man, I swear every time you talk to a girl it's either "she got offended when I complained about China/Chinese people" or "she told me all of these things she hates about Chinese society (which I clearly steered the topic towards unless every girl in china is just itching to complain about China)"

I'm getting the impression that you're doing the American equivalent of that Chinese guy that goes "Ah, you're American, haha you bombed Japan! gently caress them, right? *thumbs up*"

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Relin
Oct 6, 2002

You have been a most worthy adversary, but in every game, there are winners and there are losers. And as you know, in this game, losers get robotizicized!
27 theatres built a day :eyepop:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R-FQTY4KJk

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