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Dan Hawkins has turned down the offer from Butch Davis to be OC at FIU and according to Brett McMurphy is the new head coach of Cal Davis
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As a 35K strong state school in NorCal, I bet UC Davis has a pretty rad intramurals program. Dan, you should look into it, maybe poach some of its top flag football talent
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R.D. Mangles posted:Coach O Playbook I have burst out laughing like 4 times this morning just thinking about this.
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LeeMajors posted:Oh jesus gently caress Lane You must understand that I wouldn't hire him. It just seems like something that would happen. Fuentes at Virginia Tech would be up on my list, although I'd rather see how he does over three or four years to remove the Charlie Weis effect from his W/L record.
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I'm convinced the McElwain to Oregon rumor is something McElwain started to get a raise
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Thermos H Christ posted:So if Helfrich is getting fired, is he someone who would be considered a major prize as an OC? Hard to say. He was pretty middling pre-Oregon but his Oregon offenses have generally been good. Some of that was that he inherited Mariota, but he's mostly kept Kelly's system intact and they were still really good last year when Adams was healthy. They took a step back this year, but offense definitely was not the issue with the team and he was starting a freshman QB for most of the year. I think he'd be worth a shot as OC. He'll also probably get some mid-major HC looks, I would think.
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HOTLANTA MAN posted:I'm convinced the McElwain to Oregon rumor is something McElwain started to get a raise Hell, he's been to back to back SEC championships games, somehow.
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Thermos H Christ posted:So if Helfrich is getting fired, is he someone who would be considered a major prize as an OC? Haha! No. He was Colorado's offensive coordinator during the nightmare Dan Hawkins years. Easily the worst offensive coordinator we've ever had. He drove us crazy with his lack of any cohesive offensive plan. Don't be fooled by his offensive coordinator stint at Oregon, Chip Kelly was the offensive coordinator and then Scott Frost was. He is completely incompetent as an offensive coordinator
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HOTLANTA MAN posted:I'm convinced the McElwain to Oregon rumor is something McElwain started to get a raise On the other hand he likes that part of the country and things are about to get really ugly at UF based on how he has recruited and who he is losing to graduation. Might be time to sell high on "back to back SEC East titles" and move to a colder seat.
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Lasagna Pilot posted:On the other hand he likes that part of the country and things are about to get really ugly at UF based on how he has recruited and who he is losing to graduation. Might be time to sell high on "back to back SEC East titles" and move to colder seat. That's kind of what scares me. Im conflicted. He has won the east in two catastrophically bad years for the division. But he has also done it with really bad offensive personnel. The problem is that we really don't know how good of a coach he is. His recruiting has not been great by any stretch. The issue is that if he leaves now it sets us back a number of years and sets us afloat in a thin coaching prospect year. Pride makes me think he doesn't leave but you make a valid point. He could move on for more cash while his stock is theoretically high.
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Houston's looking into Art Briles. I wish I was kidding.
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Korranus posted:Houston's looking into Art Briles. I wish I was kidding. The moral repugnancy aside, there's no way Houston won't have a ton of assets dedicated to making sure Briles never sits face to face with an assault (sexual or otherwise) victim ever again.
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That Works posted:Little bit late but Mike is dead He's with Harambe
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Helfrich still had his job, last I checked. Buying him out (and his staff) and then buying out a big name coach from another school would be expensive, even with Nike money. I'm not sure that McElwain is worth it.Proud Christian Mom posted:He's with Harambe https://www.reddit.com/r/Harambe/comments/57266b/a_tiger_bro_has_fallen_rip_mike/
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LLCoolJD posted:Helfrich still had his job, last I checked. Buying him out (and his staff) and then buying out a big name coach from another school would be expensive, even with Nike money. I'm not sure that McElwain is worth it. Tupac ain't dead tho
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MourningView posted:Hard to say. He was pretty middling pre-Oregon but his Oregon offenses have generally been good. Some of that was that he inherited Mariota, but he's mostly kept Kelly's system intact and they were still really good last year when Adams was healthy. They took a step back this year, but offense definitely was not the issue with the team and he was starting a freshman QB for most of the year. I think he'd be worth a shot as OC. He'll also probably get some mid-major HC looks, I would think. I have to disagree with some of this. Last year was a preview of what this year turned into. Adams was amazing when healthy but that was due almost entirely due to his scrambling skills and ability to throw on the run - which was needed a lot. The way I saw it, good play calling should negate the need to scramble as much as he had to. He had a decent o-line, but the wrong plays were getting called. That's why they struggled with Lockie in, who has been in the system long enough that he knew how to play - he just didn't have the talent to improvise like Adams. The offense is definitely an issue, it's just overshadowed by bad defense. Offensive stats have been slowly (though much more rapidly this year) declining since Helfrich took over. I don't know what that means about his abilities as an OC but I wonder how much control Chip gave him and how much control he now gives Lubick.
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pillsburysoldier posted:The moral repugnancy aside, there's no way Houston won't have a ton of assets dedicated to making sure Briles never sits face to face with an assault (sexual or otherwise) victim ever again. It's sad that this is more likely than Briles running a program where no assaults happen.
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Korranus posted:Houston's looking into Art Briles. I wish I was kidding. I'd much rather have Sumlin back. And I don't want Sumlin back.
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Spacebump posted:It's sad that this is more likely than Briles running a program where no assaults happen. What's really sad is that basically nobody can do that.
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Benne posted:https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/803795220185759744 http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18168683/mark-helfrich-oregon-ducks-coach
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LLCoolJD posted:Getting ground into fine particles by FSU and Alabama in consecutive weeks isn't going to raise McElwain's profile. hey we just dropped 10mil to get rid of Helfrich, anything to get us a bargain at this point is a good thing.
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Maxwells Demon posted:Dana Holgerson is a strange candidate to consider but that sounds hilariously interesting. Yeah they were good this year but the rest of his time there has been pretty underwhelming. Seems like he might want out though. That whole list is pretty meh
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MourningView posted:Fleck is a crazy good recruiter Who doesn't want to row?
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