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C-SPAN Caller
Apr 21, 2010



Pirate Radar posted:

Jesus, it just keeps going.

Don't watch this if you don't want to see a couple people probably die, btw

Edit:


It's cool. Do visit in the winter if you don't like heat and humidity.

What's worth seeing? I like nature along with old poo poo. Living on the mainland sucked and I never want to go back but still liked some of the people, just not the BS.

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BONGHITZ
Jan 1, 1970

those bikers are very upset about china

Darkest Auer
Dec 30, 2006

They're silly

Ramrod XTreme

basic hitler posted:

is the pollution universal over there? you can't like, take a day trip to the countryside to take in some less toxic air?

Especially in the north you have to remember that the countryside has way less regulations on emissions - even by China standards - so for example Beijing in January ends up being a lot cleaner than your average coal mining town like 七台河.

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

C-SPAN Caller posted:

What's worth seeing? I like nature along with old poo poo. Living on the mainland sucked and I never want to go back but still liked some of the people, just not the BS.

Those are good things to like and Taiwan has both of them. All the old poo poo is at the National Palace Museum and the nature is everywhere there's not a city, hiking and camping are pretty popular. People are really nice here and at least in Taipei things are well-organized and function well. Nobody's pushing and shoving on the subway.

C-SPAN Caller
Apr 21, 2010



Does knowing basic functional mandarin and minor literacy help any or is the local Taiwanese dialect all that's used spoken wise and nobody knows mandarin and English is everywhere?

Darkest Auer
Dec 30, 2006

They're silly

Ramrod XTreme

The Great Autismo! posted:

China is cool and good and hilarious, it's just not cool and good if you are there in the winter or have a child

Also absolutely this. Especially the child part.

C-SPAN Caller
Apr 21, 2010



Unrelated but I just read an article of a guy comparing travel to Taiwan and mainland and everything he lists are pro Taiwan but then gets to why Mainland is better and one of the reasons is how much wealth the rich flaunt their money on the Mainland, and then at the end said they're equal.

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

C-SPAN Caller posted:

Does knowing basic functional mandarin and minor literacy help any or is the local Taiwanese dialect all that's used spoken wise and nobody knows mandarin and English is everywhere?

Taiwanese is what you speak with your grandparents these days, at least here in Taipei. Mandarin is the everyday language, but like most big cities you can get by with just English. If you go farther afield that will get harder. People won't get annoyed if you're obviously a tourist, but if you can speak a little Mandarin you might get a stream of really rapid, fluent Mandarin back--I have pretty basic Mandarin so far and I get in over my head a lot when people start thinking, "oh okay, this guy speaks Chinese" and they just speak normally to me.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

C-SPAN Caller posted:

Unrelated but I just read an article of a guy comparing travel to Taiwan and mainland and everything he lists are pro Taiwan but then gets to why Mainland is better and one of the reasons is how much wealth the rich flaunt their money on the Mainland, and then at the end said they're equal.

rich people being assholes is very good to me, an rear end in a top hat

C-SPAN Caller
Apr 21, 2010



Pirate Radar posted:

Taiwanese is what you speak with your grandparents these days, at least here in Taipei. Mandarin is the everyday language, but like most big cities you can get by with just English. If you go farther afield that will get harder. People won't get annoyed if you're obviously a tourist, but if you can speak a little Mandarin you might get a stream of really rapid, fluent Mandarin back--I have pretty basic Mandarin so far and I get in over my head a lot when people start thinking, "oh okay, this guy speaks Chinese" and they just speak normally to me.

So wait Taiwanese don't treat you like a loving curious child when you speak their language? Why is Taiwan so loving chill

Anthony Chuzzlewit
Oct 26, 2008

good for healthy


Automatic Slim posted:

Any missed opportunity to make someone lose face means you've lost face.


Here's two guys on motor bikes roaming around the Chinese countryside talking about how the Chinese will never accept them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2_L71lFItk


The one about crumbling buildings is pretty good too. That village could be in the next Fallout game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9eXi3RL8q4


I like the shrine that is still in use by the locals, but a 10 foot section of wall fell over and nobody bothers fixing it or even cleaning up the rubble.

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde
https://twitter.com/FT/status/804798863525679104?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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It makes me very happy that Trump's total ignorance of foreign affairs has led to him accidentally owning the PRC

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


It would be pretty funny if Donald Trump more or less goes back to the pre-nixon state of affairs of pretending the PRC doesnt exist. I know that's not happening but it would be funny.

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


I'm going to Taichung, Taiwan it will be SO AUTHENTIC

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
Trump hurt feelings all over the US and now he's hurting them in China too.

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
taiwan is excellent if you want to experience chinese culture since they took it with them while mainland china destroyed all of their own in the revolution

Dissapointed Owl
Jan 30, 2008

You wrote me a letter,
and this is how it went:

JaucheCharly posted:

Check out the cyclist that tries to get away, almost manages and then gets decapitated by the streetlatern. That's pretty messed up.

"Holy poo poo, hell is coming at me on wheels! But I really want to get on the other side of the road tho."

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde


lol

Invisible Handjob
Apr 7, 2002

by FactsAreUseless
Taiwan is really awesome, I went to Taiwan before visiting China and thought it would be awesome too. I was wrong though.

Also that thing with Trump is hilarious. I wonder if he doesn't know he's not supposed to call her, or just doesn't care. It's awesome either way.

Warbadger
Jun 17, 2006

Fojar38 posted:

It makes me very happy that Trump's total ignorance of foreign affairs has led to him accidentally owning the PRC

It might not be an accident, he did kinda make some shots at China during the campaign.

But it's also Trump so yeah he may have just got to the "T" part of the world leader call list.

Modest Mao
Feb 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
Trump owns

Invisible Handjob
Apr 7, 2002

by FactsAreUseless
Haha the thing with Trump is the leading story on the front page of the BBC now.

It was probably just a drunk call too

Invisible Handjob
Apr 7, 2002

by FactsAreUseless
Looks like it wasn't an accidental phone call

https://twitter.com/GideonResnick/status/804829353091694593





poo poo is going to hit the fan

Invisible Handjob fucked around with this message at 01:11 on Dec 3, 2016

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Invisible Handjob posted:

poo poo is going to hit the fan

Good I'm unironically glad of it.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
TAIWAN NUMBER ONE

CHINA NUMBER FOUR

School Nickname
Apr 23, 2010

*fffffff-fffaaaaaaarrrtt*
:ussr:
Well this is one way of bringing the jobs back. :shepicide:

Andorra
Dec 12, 2012

:getin:

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Is Iran going to get more crazy to try and not get bombed, or act less crazy to try and not get bombed? Because Bolton has a serious hard-on for trying to stick the US military dick in the Iranian hornet's nest.

Lawrence Gilchrist
Mar 31, 2010

John Bolton, Ted Cruz, the Family Research Council, the Tea Party and Breitbart News walk into a bar in 2013.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groundswell_group
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/07/groundswell-rightwing-group-ginni-thomas

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

peanut posted:

I'm going to Taichung, Taiwan it will be SO AUTHENTIC

WHY? i hope you have friends there. My aunt lives there and it's so boring

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

Pirate Radar posted:

Taiwanese is what you speak with your grandparents these days, at least here in Taipei. Mandarin is the everyday language, but like most big cities you can get by with just English. If you go farther afield that will get harder. People won't get annoyed if you're obviously a tourist, but if you can speak a little Mandarin you might get a stream of really rapid, fluent Mandarin back--I have pretty basic Mandarin so far and I get in over my head a lot when people start thinking, "oh okay, this guy speaks Chinese" and they just speak normally to me.

Holy poo poo you are going to get your rear end beaten if you say that in the south

Well What Now
Nov 10, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Shredded Hen
So I guess Trump said the no-no phrase "government of Taiwan" or something close to it. I expect many hurt feelings and possibly ICBMs incoming shortly.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Well What Now posted:

So I guess Trump said the no-no phrase "government of Taiwan" or something close to it. I expect many hurt feelings and possibly ICBMs incoming shortly.

No that's the beauty of it; we're about to see just how pathetically empty the PRC's threats are.

Well What Now
Nov 10, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Shredded Hen

Fojar38 posted:

No that's the beauty of it; we're about to see just how pathetically empty the PRC's threats are.

excuse me if I'm not too thrilled because I live next door to a navy base within easy missile range of the PRC

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

Well What Now posted:

excuse me if I'm not too thrilled because I live next door to a navy base within easy missile range of the PRC

They'll put your name on a memorial after are troops capture Peking

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
The creator of general tso's chicken died today. Chinar matters to nobody anymore.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

Metal Geir Skogul posted:

The creator of general tso's chicken died today. Chinar matters to nobody anymore.

he outlived the guy who invented the big mac yet another victory for glorious china

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

caberham posted:

Holy poo poo you are going to get your rear end beaten if you say that in the south

Yeah, this all goes for my experience as a white dude, based in Taipei, which are two factors that mean nobody ever expects me to know Taiwanese from a hole in the ground. Some of my students know some of it to talk to their grandparents, though one even does have a Taiwanese class at school! Apparently there are like nine tones and it's a pain.

C-SPAN Caller posted:

So wait Taiwanese don't treat you like a loving curious child when you speak their language? Why is Taiwan so loving chill

I'm still the right age to maybe be a student, and a lot of people come here to study, so I think people see me and think I studied it in college and/or I'm taking one of the Mandarin programs at the universities here.

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Well What Now
Nov 10, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Shredded Hen

Fojar38 posted:

They'll put your name on a memorial after are troops capture Peking

I'd rather take my chances with Vault-Tec if it's all the same to you.

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