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FART BOSS
Aug 27, 2008

~hands upon harrows
heels in the weeds
starving and harvesting
down centuries~



caberham posted:

Holy poo poo you are going to get your rear end beaten if you say that in the south

You certainly hear it more down south but in Kaohsiung and Tainan at least, everyone except the most decrepit grandpa is able to speak mandarin. English not so much.

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Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/804863098138005504
Incalculable amounts of face loss being caused by irresponsible President of the Unnamed Country.

School Nickname
Apr 23, 2010

*fffffff-fffaaaaaaarrrtt*
:ussr:
Haier's days of plunging might well be numbered after this lmao.

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010

School Nickname posted:

Haier's days of plunging might well be numbered after this lmao.
Good point, after the Trump-overseen conquest of the mainland by Taiwan, the dating scene will be far classier

School Nickname
Apr 23, 2010

*fffffff-fffaaaaaaarrrtt*
:ussr:

AceRimmer posted:

Guess what else happened today, mwahahahaha


Imagine visiting China and having Trump blow up one of your major achievements in your face during the visit. :laffo:

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010
Wow he reallllly is becoming the Penguin

Prokhor Zakharov
Dec 31, 2008

This is me as I make another great post


Good luck with your depression!

Nanomashoes posted:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/804863098138005504
Incalculable amounts of face loss being caused by irresponsible President of the Unnamed Country.

If there's a Face Fort Knox the ol' Trumpster is burning it to the ground

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Metal Geir Skogul posted:

The creator of general tso's chicken died today. Chinar matters to nobody anymore.

Wow I'm legit sad now. Gonna make some Tso's in his honor.

Well What Now
Nov 10, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Shredded Hen
The hell of this is that you could pretty much explain everything that Trump does to anyone in China with a good ol' "no why".

Prokhor Zakharov
Dec 31, 2008

This is me as I make another great post


Good luck with your depression!

Well What Now posted:

The hell of this is that you could pretty much explain everything that Trump does to anyone in China with a good ol' "no why".

Trump won on a platform that basically included 'gently caress china'

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all
We are in the timeline where Trump becomes to Taiwan what MacArthur is to the Philippines. Expect a Trump Park in Taipei, a Trump International Hospital somewhere in the south, and Roosevelt Blvd to be renamed Trump Blvd.

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


it's definitely irresponsible, but the diplomatic situation with the ROC and PRC is really dumb and the PRC probably needs the hurt feelings in this department.

Well What Now
Nov 10, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Shredded Hen

basic hitler posted:

it's definitely irresponsible, but the diplomatic situation with the ROC and PRC is really dumb and the PRC probably needs the hurt feelings in this department.

I don't disagree but this is probably the worst and stupidest possible way it could've happened.

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

FART BOSS posted:

You certainly hear it more down south but in Kaohsiung and Tainan at least, everyone except the most decrepit grandpa is able to speak mandarin. English not so much.

I think Caberham was just trying to say his aunt's gonna beat me up

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

Well What Now posted:

I don't disagree but this is probably the worst and stupidest possible way it could've happened.

I disagree. I think Tsai saw a brilliant opportunity and took it because she's a woman of action. There was no way cross-strait relations were going to get resolved without some feathers being ruffled and exploiting Trump's belligerent attitude on Twitter has to be the absolute most "we are living in a cyberpunk future" way to get statehood recognition possible and I love it. China is going to be exposed a toothless paper tiger even if Taiwan doesn't end up recognized as a state. The amount of face to be lost is staggering and awesome.

But seriously this is the logical next step in the ongoing developments in the region. Obama got the start to his anti-China coalition by arming the Vietnamese. Japan is seriously considering repealing Article IX. Duterte is a loving wildcard. And relations between China and Taiwan have been strained ever since Tsai got elected and wouldn't acknowledge One China.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler
/\ The minute Duterte officially decides to side with China and abandon the US, is the precise minute that the heads of the Philippine Military decide to put a bullet in him.

Realistically, what are China's possible responses? Trump took a phone call, he didn't officially acknowledge the ROC as being a sovereign state, he didn't declare them the rightful rulers of the mainland, and he didn't officially open regular diplomatic relations with their either. Hell, he's not even the president yet. What's China going to do to save this massive loss of face that has hurt their feelings?

Military Action is so absurd it's not even really worth mentioning. The US Navy/Air Force are not going to be driven out of any areas they are currently operating in. The Chinese have a few SAMs on their "islands" and they might say there are going to be ongoing live-fire tests in the waters around Taiwan, but they would never risk actually firing on a US military craft.

Economic Action is nearly as absurd, as they are balancing on a pretty treacherous precipice, what with their current situation being pretty indicative of a fast-approaching crash. When you look at the trade numbers between the US and China, the Chinese have the most to lose by a few orders of magnitude. If they try something drastic to save face, they will essentially be cutting off their nose to save that very same face.

Diplomatic Action is not far behind in the absurdity department since their current "friends" are a handful of African nations, North Korea, and a Russia, all of whom are either completely powerless when it comes to diplomatic influence, currently an international pariah, or both.

I'm expecting they are going to release a very angry statement, then stew in their own juices for a while. . . while not really doing anything. Hell, they might have to direct their efforts inwards, as they have been having a bit of trouble with ultra-nationalists getting seriously butthurt and this would likely be another can of gas being thrown on that particular fire they are now regretting they ever started.

Blistex fucked around with this message at 05:39 on Dec 3, 2016

Well What Now
Nov 10, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Shredded Hen
Trump is gonna get them to fire all their nukes but they'll malfunction and hit Mexico instead, just as he had foreseen.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Well What Now posted:

Trump is gonna get them to fire all their nukes but they'll malfunction and hit Mexico instead, just as he had foreseen.

China said they would never use their Nukes as a first-strike weapon! They even pinky-swore it!

Well What Now
Nov 10, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Shredded Hen

Blistex posted:

China said they would never use their Nukes as a first-strike weapon! They even pinky-swore it!

The Cubs won the World Series and Trump is President-Elect. All bets are officially off at this point.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all
I am unironically going to cheer when Trump gets his ticker tape parade down Trump Blvd in downtown Taipei (the capital of the Republic of Taiwan).

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

Atlas Hugged posted:

I am unironically going to cheer when Trump gets his ticker tape parade down Trump Blvd in downtown Taipei (the capital of the Republic of Taiwan).

They'll find a solution that works for everyone when they replace the CKS statue with one of Trump.

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


Blistex posted:

/\ The minute Duterte officially decides to side with China and abandon the US, is the precise minute that the heads of the Philippine Military decide to put a bullet in him.

Realistically, what are China's possible responses? Trump took a phone call, he didn't officially acknowledge the ROC as being a sovereign state, he didn't declare them the rightful rulers of the mainland, and he didn't officially open regular diplomatic relations with their either. Hell, he's not even the president yet. What's China going to do to save this massive loss of face that has hurt their feelings?

Military Action is so absurd it's not even really worth mentioning. The US Navy/Air Force are not going to be driven out of any areas they are currently operating in. The Chinese have a few SAMs on their "islands" and they might say there are going to be ongoing live-fire tests in the waters around Taiwan, but they would never risk actually firing on a US military craft.

Economic Action is nearly as absurd, as they are balancing on a pretty treacherous precipice, what with their current situation being pretty indicative of a fast-approaching crash. When you look at the trade numbers between the US and China, the Chinese have the most to lose by a few orders of magnitude. If they try something drastic to save face, they will essentially be cutting off their nose to save that very same face.

Diplomatic Action is not far behind in the absurdity department since their current "friends" are a handful of African nations, North Korea, and a Russia, all of whom are either completely powerless when it comes to diplomatic influence, currently an international pariah, or both.

I'm expecting they are going to release a very angry statement, then stew in their own juices for a while. . . while not really doing anything. Hell, they might have to direct their efforts inwards, as they have been having a bit of trouble with ultra-nationalists getting seriously butthurt and this would likely be another can of gas being thrown on that particular fire they are now regretting they ever started.

Trump is going to fire sick burn after sick burn against the PRC on twitter, and will set the terms of ceasefire as recognizing the territorial sovereignty of Taiwan and the legitimacy of the ROC government that controls it. They will capitulate in a matter of days. There won't be a single face left to save in mainland china. Angrypug will be named ambassador to the mainland by the ROC.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

Pirate Radar posted:

They'll find a solution that works for everyone when they replace the CKS statue with one of Trump.

I can't wait to see gaudy rear end TRUMP spelled in gold letters across the main gate to Trump Liberty Square.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Grand Fromage posted:

Wow I'm legit sad now. Gonna make some Tso's in his honor.

I ordered some pretty loving good Tso's tonight for exactly that reason (it was deep fried but unbreaded chicken with a very nice sauce)

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

Blistex posted:

/\ The minute Duterte officially decides to side with China and abandon the US, is the precise minute that the heads of the Philippine Military decide to put a bullet in him.

Realistically, what are China's possible responses? Trump took a phone call, he didn't officially acknowledge the ROC as being a sovereign state, he didn't declare them the rightful rulers of the mainland, and he didn't officially open regular diplomatic relations with their either. Hell, he's not even the president yet. What's China going to do to save this massive loss of face that has hurt their feelings?

Military Action is so absurd it's not even really worth mentioning. The US Navy/Air Force are not going to be driven out of any areas they are currently operating in. The Chinese have a few SAMs on their "islands" and they might say there are going to be ongoing live-fire tests in the waters around Taiwan, but they would never risk actually firing on a US military craft.

Economic Action is nearly as absurd, as they are balancing on a pretty treacherous precipice, what with their current situation being pretty indicative of a fast-approaching crash. When you look at the trade numbers between the US and China, the Chinese have the most to lose by a few orders of magnitude. If they try something drastic to save face, they will essentially be cutting off their nose to save that very same face.

Diplomatic Action is not far behind in the absurdity department since their current "friends" are a handful of African nations, North Korea, and a Russia, all of whom are either completely powerless when it comes to diplomatic influence, currently an international pariah, or both.

I'm expecting they are going to release a very angry statement, then stew in their own juices for a while. . . while not really doing anything. Hell, they might have to direct their efforts inwards, as they have been having a bit of trouble with ultra-nationalists getting seriously butthurt and this would likely be another can of gas being thrown on that particular fire they are now regretting they ever started.

This makes up for that whole Obama and the tarmac thing last summer.

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface

Well What Now posted:

excuse me if I'm not too thrilled because I live next door to a navy base within easy missile range of the PRC

Lol if you think the PRC will react military to this. They don't have any local allies besides NK in the area and they know it.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Automatic Slim posted:

This makes up for that whole Obama and the tarmac thing last summer.

Obama laid down some sick burns of his own, along the lines of "We get that the US delegation has a lot of people and a lot of planes and vehicles, and that it can be overwhelming for some countries."

Tupperwarez
Apr 4, 2004

"phphphphphphpht"? this is what you're going with?

you sure?
If Trump literally says TAIWAN NUMBER ONE after figuratively saying it I will probably have some kind of stroke.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Trump is one of the worst things to happen to the world in a long time, but this is amazing. China is toothless and absolutely dependent on foreign trade buying up their poo poo and should be trolled mercilessly until their faces melt off like that stupid nazi from Indiana Jones.

Well What Now
Nov 10, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Shredded Hen

Telsa Cola posted:

Lol if you think the PRC will react military to this. They don't have any local allies besides NK in the area and they know it.

that was a joke, son

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Here's a really stupid article I just saw that illustrates some of the common mistakes tourist advertising in East Asia makes: http://www.livinginchengdu.com/index.php/Home/Index/article/id/10.html

1) Long history which has all been bulldozed and is gone so irrelevant.
2) Who cares? Nobody's choosing a place to move to/visit in China based on manufacturing, but it does let you obsess about numbers.
3) Again, who cares? Nobody is going to pick Chengdu because you built malls. There's lots of malls. Traffic at the airport is also a thing no one cares about. The airport having lots of routes just means it's crowded, so is actually a negative.
4) lol at anywhere in China being inclusive. Chengdu people are generally chill though, and while they stare like crazy they usually will just interact normally with you and not start shouting THE FOREIGNER IS SPEAKING CHINESE and that is a plus to living here, so this one is half true I suppose.
5) lol again. It's really humid and hot and the sun never shines, come to Chengdu!
6) what. This is at least true that sitting around playing mahjong for 14 hours straight is the only thing people do here.
7) This is accurate, I have no objections. "Chengdu people love to eat hotpot, and you can see hotpot restaurant everywhere." is the biggest understatement I have ever seen. When they say everywhere they literally mean everywhere. There's at least ten within a five minute walk of my apartment.
8) Who cares? Yet more obsessing over numbers that are of no relevance. This is super characteristic of East Asia. You know a Wikipedia article was edited by locals when the entire article is just a list of facts and figures. This is a decent example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Changwon

quote:

The country's longest straight road was constructed in Changwon, with a length of 15.27 kilometres (9.49 mi),[7] with the industrial park to the south and residential complexes constructed to the north. The current plan is an independent foundation in Changwon city, the urban master plan is September 1, 1976 Industrial and promoting the development and efficient management of the city behind for the administrative district of Masan, Changwon, remove it from the earth as the 1977-1986 Area Plan 171.560㎢(42,393ac), was established based on population 300,000.

Transit time is scrupulous and a 50 metres (160 ft) wide park was created from east to west through the central region of Changwon, South central area of the Main Street running through the width is 25 m (82 ft).

In the 1970s, The 3rd Economic Development five years (1972–1976) according to the plans of the heavy and chemical industries' machinery industry 100 billion export target, the ranks of industrialised nations settled in the 1980s', depending on the goal, 19 September 1973 President Park Chung Hee 'instructions on the construction of Changwon Machinery Industrial Base' is a top-down April 1, 1974 Changwon industrial base for the development of industrial base development is determined by promoting regional development has begun.

Companies in the Benefits Agency, including the selection and move into action to attract companies produce 1.5 billion won in 1975, exports from $600,000 in 1979, producing 450.6 billion won, raise export earnings $1,650,000..

Oh boy! Also got to throw in lies:

quote:

Changwon is a planned city, taking Canberra, Australia as a model. After Canberra, Brasília in Brazil, and New Delhi in India, it was the fourth planned city in the world, and is Korea's first planned city.

Fourth planned city in the world, eh? Washington DC? Manhattan grid? Literally every Roman-founded city?

Anyway back to

9) Have to throw in some sexism, right? Also the entire reason for this belief is because Sichuan is cloudy, so girls here are deathly pale. Which also is not true because Sichuanese people are darker skinned in general than northern Chinese. Plenty of people here look just straight up Southeast Asian.
10) The rule that any article mentioning Chengdu must talk about pandas. I don't give a gently caress about this but I guess someone might.

So a 10 point article with, at most, two relevant parts. Tourism promoters here are really bad. The place I used to live in Korea would start all of its tourism advertisement with loving pictures of oil refineries and paragraphs upon paragraphs of minutiae about industrial output. To attract tourists. Because ? ? ?

Andorra
Dec 12, 2012

Blistex posted:

Realistically, what are China's possible responses? Trump took a phone call, he didn't officially acknowledge the ROC as being a sovereign state, he didn't declare them the rightful rulers of the mainland, and he didn't officially open regular diplomatic relations with their either. Hell, he's not even the president yet. What's China going to do to save this massive loss of face that has hurt their feelings?

Lots of people stomping on their iphones

Jimmy Little Balls
Aug 23, 2009

Grand Fromage posted:

Here's a really stupid article I just saw that illustrates some of the common mistakes tourist advertising in East Asia makes: http://www.livinginchengdu.com/index.php/Home/Index/article/id/10.html

1) Long history which has all been bulldozed and is gone so irrelevant.
2) Who cares? Nobody's choosing a place to move to/visit in China based on manufacturing, but it does let you obsess about numbers.
3) Again, who cares? Nobody is going to pick Chengdu because you built malls. There's lots of malls. Traffic at the airport is also a thing no one cares about. The airport having lots of routes just means it's crowded, so is actually a negative.
4) lol at anywhere in China being inclusive. Chengdu people are generally chill though, and while they stare like crazy they usually will just interact normally with you and not start shouting THE FOREIGNER IS SPEAKING CHINESE and that is a plus to living here, so this one is half true I suppose.
5) lol again. It's really humid and hot and the sun never shines, come to Chengdu!
6) what. This is at least true that sitting around playing mahjong for 14 hours straight is the only thing people do here.
7) This is accurate, I have no objections. "Chengdu people love to eat hotpot, and you can see hotpot restaurant everywhere." is the biggest understatement I have ever seen. When they say everywhere they literally mean everywhere. There's at least ten within a five minute walk of my apartment.
8) Who cares? Yet more obsessing over numbers that are of no relevance. This is super characteristic of East Asia. You know a Wikipedia article was edited by locals when the entire article is just a list of facts and figures. This is a decent example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Changwon


Oh boy! Also got to throw in lies:


Fourth planned city in the world, eh? Washington DC? Manhattan grid? Literally every Roman-founded city?

Anyway back to

9) Have to throw in some sexism, right? Also the entire reason for this belief is because Sichuan is cloudy, so girls here are deathly pale. Which also is not true because Sichuanese people are darker skinned in general than northern Chinese. Plenty of people here look just straight up Southeast Asian.
10) The rule that any article mentioning Chengdu must talk about pandas. I don't give a gently caress about this but I guess someone might.

So a 10 point article with, at most, two relevant parts. Tourism promoters here are really bad. The place I used to live in Korea would start all of its tourism advertisement with loving pictures of oil refineries and paragraphs upon paragraphs of minutiae about industrial output. To attract tourists. Because ? ? ?

It might be because I've been here a long time and I'm bored of it but to me Sichuan food is pretty poo poo. 90% oil with some chilies thrown in and the tiniest cheapest lovely bit of meat they could find.

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

Andorra posted:

Lots of people stomping on their iphones

Do the Chinese take from the trump school of protesting where you buy and then ceremonially destroy a product your angry at?

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Andorra posted:

Lots of people stomping on their iphones

this but with very obviously fake iphones. You can even see their actual iphone on their desk or sticking out of their pocket. Its funny how they think the rest of the world doesnt see right through the constant bullshit

I see these stupid news stories from china all the time about how they are so great at some stupid thing no one cares about or about how a recent horrible thing they did isnt actually bad.

Is it that they think so highly of their master manipulations, or is it that they think we are so stupid and easy to fool?

3rd option is that they are lazy and went straight for the easiest method.

Fauxtool fucked around with this message at 10:14 on Dec 3, 2016

Well What Now
Nov 10, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Shredded Hen
went to the local Chinese takeout place for dinner tonight, bought noodles and Kung Pao chicken

good poo poo

mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants
Who gives a gently caress about pandas, anyway?

Fauxtool posted:

this but with very obviously fake iphones. You can even see their actual iphone on their desk or sticking out of their pocket. Its funny how they think the rest of the world doesnt see right through the constant bullshit

I see these stupid news stories from china all the time about how they are so great at some stupid thing no one cares about or about how a recent horrible thing they did isnt actually bad.

Is it that they think so highly of their master manipulations, or is it that they think we are so stupid and easy to fool?

3rd option is that they are lazy and went straight for the easiest method.

Isn't it a common part of Chinese culture not to point out obvious bullshit for fear of creating "disharmony?"

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


caberham posted:

WHY? i hope you have friends there. My aunt lives there and it's so boring

Yeah for a wedding banquet, we'll be with Minibug so like just feeding pigeons and stuff.

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fish and chips and dip
Feb 17, 2010
The world according to a CCTV "journalist" based in London

This is a pro-loving click, the level of delusion is staggering
https://www.hongkongfp.com/2016/12/03/world-according-cctv-journalist-based-london/

The main article is about a twitter beef between said journalist and a woman who had her home demolished in China, it's too nuanced to quote here, but at the end of the article we get this:

quote:

On UK public opinion against the Hinkley deal: “Very close mind .” (English her own.)
She likes to use the word “democrazy” to answer Twitter users who express disgust with her views.
On the Hamilton cast reading a statement to Vice President-elect Mike Pence: “Insult your audience is not the real free speech.” (English her own.)
On the execution of Jia Jinglong (贾敬龙): “If the case is so easy to judge ,why we need a professional judge .” (English her own.)
On Syria: “…it is all because of Obama.” (English her own.)
On the CCP and China today: “Chinese young people have to thank that big mountain that blocks the wind for them when they wear high-end earpieces and listen to music and discuss current affairs, spared of the fate of the Iraqi, Libyan, and Syrian refugees who are displaced or die on their journey because of the harm of color revolutions.”
On Western media: “To understand the evil side of western media , they try to provoke and make more troubles on the rising China.” [English her own]
On the UK: “Hahaha, The British,’ like a lion,they like to roar,but can no longer hunt.’” (English her own.)

Seriously though, read the whole thing, it's amazing.

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