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Slugworth posted:A steak with seasoning you thought you'd like when you read the menu but didn't is different than a steak that was not prepared properly. I still think the steak to movie comparison is not the best. But whatever, I'm a jerk. I watched Mortal Kombat: Annihilation (not in theaters) and it was bad. At one point in the movie you can see the stage lighting and a camera on screen.
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Jenner posted:I still think the steak to movie comparison is not the best. But whatever, I'm a jerk. You could've watched an open matte version of it. For some movies, when they crop it for television, they're actually just taking off the 2.35 or 1.78 mattes to open up the picture. I forgot what tv show it was, but when they were remastering it for HD, they had the reverse problem, where they took off the 1:33 matte to open up the picture for 1.78 and you could see all the production magic going on off to the side of the frame. They had to paint out lights and equipment, or actors standing just off camera waiting for the marker cue when all that stuff was revealed when they opened up the matte. It may have been for the remastering of Sopranos, but I'm not 100% positive on that. You can see all the production lighting on Evil Dead 2, yet no one ever brings that up when talking about production equipment taking you out of a movie. They didn't even bother hiding the film gear in a lot of scenes. ruddiger fucked around with this message at 23:25 on Dec 2, 2016 |
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ruddiger posted:You could've watched an open matte version of it. For some movies, when they crop it for television, they're actually just taking off the 2.35 or 1.78 mattes to open up the picture. I forgot what tv show it was, but when they were remastering it for HD, they had the reverse problem, where they took off the 1:33 matte to open up the picture for 1.78 and you could see all the production magic going on off to the side of the frame. They had to paint out lights and equipment, or actors standing just off camera waiting for the marker cue when all that stuff was revealed when they opened up the matte. It may have been for the remastering of Sopranos, but I'm not 100% positive on that. This reminds me of when Malcolm in the Middle got put online for streaming and put it up widescreen. The problem was the show wasn't filmed that way so you'd get shots with stand in actors instead of the actual actor, half empty sets, and so on.
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I saw Mortal Kombat: Annihilation in a theater and other people walked out. I was like 11 and too dumb to realize what a lovely movie I sat all the way through.
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My favorite example of this is in the 1983 Sean Penn movie, Bad Boys. During the climactic final fight scene between Sean Penn and Esai Morales, there's this great shot. I didn't notice the camera man until maybe a few years ago, and by that time, I must've seen the movie a million billion times. I still gloss over him sometimes during the scene, the drama between the two leads is so thick in that scene, it blurs everything else out. ruddiger fucked around with this message at 01:55 on Dec 3, 2016 |
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Jenner posted:I still think the steak to movie comparison is not the best. But whatever, I'm a jerk. Oh, it definitely is, I was just pointing out the flaw in the internal logic of the already weak analogy.
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ruddiger posted:You could've watched an open matte version of it. For some movies, when they crop it for television, they're actually just taking off the 2.35 or 1.78 mattes to open up the picture. I forgot what tv show it was, but when they were remastering it for HD, they had the reverse problem, where they took off the 1:33 matte to open up the picture for 1.78 and you could see all the production magic going on off to the side of the frame. They had to paint out lights and equipment, or actors standing just off camera waiting for the marker cue when all that stuff was revealed when they opened up the matte. It may have been for the remastering of Sopranos, but I'm not 100% positive on that. I know when The X-Files first appeared on Netflix many episodes had this issue. Jenner posted:I watched Mortal Kombat: Annihilation (not in theaters) and it was bad. At one point in the movie you can see the stage lighting and a camera on screen. Oh man this movie. Even huge budget super polished flicks have moments where for a very brief second you can see a reflection of a camera or something, but in Annihilation, like, okay there's a point where Shao Khan is pissed at one of his lackeys, Ermac, so he throws them into a fiery pit to kill them. Towards the end of the movie there's a fight scene in that same chamber between Liu Kang and Baraka. Ermac is basically a purple ninja like in a Godfrey Ho movie. Baraka is a dude wearing a Nosferatu mask from a Halloween store with some extra junk added onto it. The fight ends with Liu Kang knocking Baraka into that same fiery pit, but they wanted to save money so as soon as it cuts to the pit they just show Ermac falling into it again instead. I know it's a cheap movie but there's some super idiotic shortcut like that in almost every major scene, it's crazy.
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Neo Rasa posted:I know when The X-Files first appeared on Netflix many episodes had this issue. This is amazing.  ruddiger posted:My favorite example of this is in the 1983 Sean Penn movie, Bad Boys. During the climactic final fight scene between Sean Penn and Esai Morales, there's this great shot. It actually took me a moment to notice him even in the still picture. It's amazing that he is just so brazenly right there but your eyes gloss right over him.
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In the intro to The Dark Knight you can see the camera helicopter reflected in the building that gets the window blown out I think, my old roommate used to annoyingly point it out whenever it came on.
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Jenner posted:I watched Mortal Kombat: Annihilation (not in theaters) and it was bad. At one point in the movie you can see the stage lighting and a camera on screen. lol i also saw this in theatres and didn't walk out of it. dear lord i've seen some garbage. Neo Rasa posted:Oh man this movie. Even huge budget super polished flicks have moments where for a very brief second you can see a reflection of a camera or something, but in Annihilation, like, okay there's a point where Shao Khan is pissed at one of his lackeys, Ermac, so he throws them into a fiery pit to kill them. Towards the end of the movie there's a fight scene in that same chamber between Liu Kang and Baraka. Ermac is basically a purple ninja like in a Godfrey Ho movie. Baraka is a dude wearing a Nosferatu mask from a Halloween store with some extra junk added onto it. The fight ends with Liu Kang knocking Baraka into that same fiery pit, but they wanted to save money so as soon as it cuts to the pit they just show Ermac falling into it again instead. I know it's a cheap movie but there's some super idiotic shortcut like that in almost every major scene, it's crazy. ummm ermac is red, you'll find the purple ninja is "rain".
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Tenzarin posted:That's not even aliens though. This is lovely sci fi So is this pretty much the wrong-est post ever?
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Groovelord Neato posted:lol i also saw this in theatres and didn't walk out of it. dear lord i've seen some garbage. Hi-five fellow sat through Annihilation in theaters buddy.  I feel really stupid for mixing up the colors of Ermac and Purple Rain. It says a lot about the movie that they were both in it and I can't even remember which one got killed in that scene. OMG I just remembered something else amazing about that part. When Liu Kang first enters the chamber Baraka swings across his path on a chain, arm-blades extended, and....completely whiffs by like five feet like he just totally misses him. Seconds pass, he swings by AGAIN and completely misses. At this point Kitana warns Liu Kang that it's a trap. 
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Shrimp or Shrimps posted:So is this pretty much the wrong-est post ever? It's on the list but the bar is set quite high.
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I am about to watch Prometheus. See you all on the other side.Neo Rasa posted:Hi-five fellow sat through Annihilation in theaters buddy. Mortal Kombat has so many ninjas that look exactly like Scorpion but a different color (and a different power) though so I don't really blame you. I forgot about the Baraka part. MK: Annihilation is art.
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I still hate my younger self for spending allowance money on that poo poo.
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Jenner posted:I am about to watch Prometheus. See you all on the other side. the guy who played motaro is in one of those fmv sega cd games. also the best part is when the place jax was being built in blows up.
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Oh that reminds me of one more thing! They cast people with zero martial prowess to play all the main characters except for Robin Shou, but cast a real deal experienced stuntwoman to play Sheeva and had her literally stand around and do nothing for the whole movie like why is she even there? The best parts of the movie are Raiden flipping out of a photograph of the part of the Petra Cliffs where they filmed Last Crusade to exclaim "Never lose hope!" and also the entire Jax self-esteem sub-plot leading up to the "Mr. Ed is mine" scene.
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MK Annihilation would have been improved immensely if Motaro was pooping every second he was on screen. Just piles of poop hat the other characters start slipping in and Motaro beats Jax when Jax slips on some poop and breaks his neck. Horses poop a lot
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I really didn't expect the Alien 3 thread would result in me wanting to watch Mortal Kombat Annihilation but, yet, here we are 
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david_a posted:I really didn't expect the Alien 3 thread would result in me wanting to watch Mortal Kombat Annihilation but, yet, here we are You have made a good decision and you will have no regrets.
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Jenner posted:You have made a good decision and you will have no regrets. 
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david_a posted:It turns out the library doesn't have a copy of it for some mysterious reason so I'm saved This is tragic. oldpainless posted:It's on Netflix A hero arrives and the day is saved.
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Mortal Kombat: Annihilation "Directors Cut" Was loving Awesome
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I strongly recommend Mortal Kombat: Annihilation over Alien Resurrection.
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Neo Rasa posted:I strongly recommend Mortal Kombat: Annihilation over Alien Resurrection. Yeah same, actually.
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MK: Annihilation is a very bad movie, but it is a very bad movie that I will always have a soft spot for because it's just so loving hilarious.
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Just finished MK Annihilation! Much better than it should have been because A) it knows you're not interested in wasting the first third of the movie on boring setup and B) it has an adorably sincere devotion to all the palette-swapped ninjas/robots and other bullshit from the games. And hey, it's still better than the TV series! I think the IMDB trivia page is my favorite thing from the movie: quote:The song playing while Kitana and Liu Kang are traveling through the tunnels is also the song the Jim Levinsteen strips to in American Pie (1999). quote:If adding up all back-flips, front-flips, and side-flips together there are a total of 54 of them present in the film. quote:Kitana and Mileena are not twins because Mileena has blue eyes, but Kitana are brown eyes. To bring it vaguely back on topic - poor James Remar. Getting fired from Aliens to replacing Christopher Lambert in an MK sequel a decade later. Rough.
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MK Annihilation is a hyped up, sugar addled child making up his version of the mortal kombat story as his exhausted parents try to get him to sleep. It's why they use tunnels to traverse half the world, which are immediately forgotten, even though they spend the whole movie wandering around, why characters just pop up, then vanish (because the child is desperately trying to cram every character in) and why scenes just sort of...happen. The best bit of the movie is Rain's death. Rain tells Evil Badguy McEndBoss that they've captured two earth warriors. McEndBoss asks if they were made to suffer. Rain just says "But master..." before McEndboss screams "I have no use for excuses!" then kills him, without ever actually clarifying what it was Rain was actually trying to excuse. It's the best.
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Me reading your posts
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Snowman_McK posted:MK Annihilation is a hyped up, sugar addled child making up his version of the mortal kombat story as his exhausted parents try to get him to sleep. It's why they use tunnels to traverse half the world, which are immediately forgotten, even though they spend the whole movie wandering around, why characters just pop up, then vanish (because the child is desperately trying to cram every character in) and why scenes just sort of...happen. I remember this, for some reason Shao Khan considers is a huge failure if you don't make people sufficiently beg for mercy before killing them? But then he doesn't give Rain a chance to beg for mercy before killing him so I guess it's okay when the president does it lol oldpainless posted:Me reading your posts See these spikes on his elbows? I was always fascinated by how they went the extra mile on the makeup for those when you see them for like two seconds. I mean it's more detailed and spiky than the actual Motaro model they made for the game, the effects people just love spikes that much. I know this because I remember seeing a making of of the first Mortal Kombat movie and the CG people were *SUPER PROUD* of how they digitally made the hilly island they shot as Shang Tsung's island extra spiky and jagged by digitally exaggerating every slope and hill on it into basically a really tall triangle. It looked like poo poo even when it was new and they forgot to actually add this effect into every shot so the island looks completely different in almost every establishing shot. Another great thing about Annihilation is how at the beginning when Shao Khan comes out he grabs Johnny Cage and lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGT-bAK1Xg4
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Neo Rasa posted:I remember this, for some reason Shao Khan considers is a huge failure if you don't make people sufficiently beg for mercy before killing them? to be fair, I'm pretty sure Annihilation came out around the same time as Mortal Kombat Trilogy, which put about as much thought into its story and characters as the movie did. The guys at Midway/Netherrealm have done a very good job recently of curating the awful poo poo they did in the late 90s and making it not poo poo.
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MY NAME'S JACKSON BRIGGS. YOU GOT AN INCREDIBLE SET OF LEGS. FOR KICKIN' I MEAN. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMrg2luTZts  1m34s Raiden's sudden appearance here is still one of my favorite things in the entire Mortal Kombat franchise.
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Mortal Kombat: Annihilation was probably the first time I watched a film that I thought was truly terrible (I was 13). I liked plenty of things that I now realise were awful. Even worse, me and a friend rented it along with The Crow 2: City of Angels. So that was the second time I watched a film that I thought was truly terrible. And now for some reason I'm tempted to watch both of them again for the first time since then. Thanks a lot, thread 
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Quote-Unquote posted:Mortal Kombat: Annihilation was probably the first time I watched a film that I thought was truly terrible (I was 13). I liked plenty of things that I now realise were awful. Which Crow movie was Marc Dacascos in? I still think Marc used to get work because short sighted, vaguely racist producers couldn't tell him and Brandon Lee apart.
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Snowman_McK posted:Which Crow movie was Marc Dacascos in? I still think Marc used to get work because short sighted, vaguely racist producers couldn't tell him and Brandon Lee apart. I think maybe he was in the t.v. show? Marc Dacascos playing the chairman in the U.S. version of Iron Chef will forever be his greatest role.
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brocked posted:This nightmarish derail has burst out of this thread's chest like... I dunno, something It's better than talking about trying to scam a couple bucks out of a movie theater or passing judgment on a movie you half-watched/remembered like that's something to be proud of.
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As a compromise derail, in order to both stay off topic and yet talk about Alien how about we discuss about the Alien videogames? There have been a shocking number of them, including a light-gun-on-rails title for Alien 3 specifically in the early 90's. You played as a convict trying to escape the prison, only you had guns and also had a bad time because it was terrible even by the standards of the genre. On the good side we have Alien Isolation, released a couple years ago that is essentially fan service dedicated to the first Alien in both look and tone (though the protagonist is Ellen Ripley's daughter, borrowing from Aliens). That was, and is, a genuinely creepy game done well, and if you are a superfan of the first Alien and haven't played it you owe it to yourself to play at least the mini-expansion they released for it that duplicates the Nostromo and lets you play as one of the crew. On the bad side we have...so many. Colonial Marines is kind of a video game poster child for terrible games. The first Alien game I remember was for the Atari 2600 (yes I am old) which was also pretty terrible as I remember, and not because it was built on primitive technology. Somewhere in the middle we have the Alien vs. Predator games, which resulted in some pretty decent titles (and some mediocre ones) and a mediocre movie along with a terrible one. However my favorite Alien game, outside of Isolation, is the free mod for the original Doom which came out around 96 or 97. Fox eventually shut it down but for what it was it is a hell of a lot of fun. That's mostly nostalgia on my part, maybe, but I liked it. Discuss away. Ixian fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Dec 5, 2016 |
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