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Suplex Liberace
Jan 18, 2012



I think that gap is supposed to shrink soon.

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Spermgod
Jan 8, 2012

pink wasn't even a thing why is t#RXT REVOLUTION~!
and i'm so fucking excited for #SCOOPS#SCOOPS#SCOOPS #SCOOPS#SCOOPS #SCOOPS#SCOOPS
:sludgepal:
he knows..
The full AJPW 11/27 Sumo Hall card is out

Takuya Nomura vs. Naoya Nomura

Naoshi Sano, Kazuhiro Tamura & Kaji Tomato vs. Masao Inoue, Tsuyoshi Kikuchi & SUSHI

Black Tiger VII, Takeshi Minamino, Tatsuhito Takaiwa & Mitsuya Nagai vs. Diablo, Rey Paloma, Ryuji Hijikata & Super Tiger

Konosuke Takeshita, Kengo Mashimo & Ryoji Sai vs. Koji Iwamoto, Yuma Aoyagi & Jake Lee

Isami Kodaka, Yutaka Yoshie, Osamu Nishimura & The Great Kabuki vs. TAJIRI, Ultimo Dragon, Chavo Guerrero & Dory Funk Jr.

Manabu Soya & Takao Omori vs. Kendo Kashin & Jun Akiyama

Gaora TV Championship
Yohei Nakajima (c) vs. Jiro "Ikemen" Kuroshio

World Junior Heavyweight Championship
Soma Takao (c) vs. Keisuke Ishii

All-Asia Tag Championship
Atsushi Aoki & Hikaru Sato (c) vs. Atsushi Onita & Masanobu Fuchi

World Tag Team Championship
Daisuke Sekimoto & Yuji Okabayashi (c) vs. Zeus & Bodyguard

Triple Crown Heavyweight Championship
Kento Miyahara (c) vs. Suwama


Pleasantly surprised at there being only 3 multiman tags I don't much care about due to presence of either not-very-good sleazebag indie guys or barely-mobile old guys. Everything else has a lot of potential. Nomura vs. Nomura is a very exciting match for hardcore Japanese wrestling nerds and young boy fans.

Spermgod fucked around with this message at 10:03 on Oct 28, 2016

Thauros
Jan 29, 2003

Kobashi and Akiyama on Baba's approach to weight training as translated by Chris Charlton

Ditch
Jul 29, 2003

Backdrop Hunger
I think you could tell Baba's thoughts on weight training by looking at him.

(thanks for posting that!)

Thauros
Jan 29, 2003

Reminder that the big AJPW Sumo Hall show is late tonight/tomorrow moring at the reasonable for puro hour of 1 AM EST/5 AM GMT.

Watch it live in http://www.psp-tv.com/r/PoD

Spermgod posted:

The full AJPW 11/27 Sumo Hall card is out

Takuya Nomura vs. Naoya Nomura

Naoshi Sano, Kazuhiro Tamura & Kaji Tomato vs. Masao Inoue, Tsuyoshi Kikuchi & SUSHI

Black Tiger VII, Takeshi Minamino, Tatsuhito Takaiwa & Mitsuya Nagai vs. Diablo, Rey Paloma, Ryuji Hijikata & Super Tiger

Konosuke Takeshita, Kengo Mashimo & Ryoji Sai vs. Koji Iwamoto, Yuma Aoyagi & Jake Lee

Isami Kodaka, Yutaka Yoshie, Osamu Nishimura & The Great Kabuki vs. TAJIRI, Ultimo Dragon, Chavo Guerrero & Dory Funk Jr.

Manabu Soya & Takao Omori vs. Kendo Kashin & Jun Akiyama

Gaora TV Championship
Yohei Nakajima (c) vs. Jiro "Ikemen" Kuroshio

World Junior Heavyweight Championship
Soma Takao (c) vs. Keisuke Ishii

All-Asia Tag Championship
Atsushi Aoki & Hikaru Sato (c) vs. Atsushi Onita & Masanobu Fuchi

World Tag Team Championship
Daisuke Sekimoto & Yuji Okabayashi (c) vs. Zeus & Bodyguard

Triple Crown Heavyweight Championship
Kento Miyahara (c) vs. Suwama


Pleasantly surprised at there being only 3 multiman tags I don't much care about due to presence of either not-very-good sleazebag indie guys or barely-mobile old guys. Everything else has a lot of potential. Nomura vs. Nomura is a very exciting match for hardcore Japanese wrestling nerds and young boy fans.

Thauros
Jan 29, 2003

this is starting now

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

i put it on

flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011

what in hell dory funk

UltimoDragonQuest
Oct 5, 2011



Dory is amazing.

KungFu Grip
Jun 18, 2008
That show was weird.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
Any idea who that Black Tiger is?

mariooncrack
Dec 27, 2008
https://twitter.com/narukiroy/status/802774820320444416

Is there anywhere to get the replay of this show?

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
Jesus, AJPW, get some better gaijin.

NienNunb
Feb 15, 2012

So outside of Dory Funk Jr, how was the show? Anything I should go out of my way to see?

Spermgod
Jan 8, 2012

pink wasn't even a thing why is t#RXT REVOLUTION~!
and i'm so fucking excited for #SCOOPS#SCOOPS#SCOOPS #SCOOPS#SCOOPS #SCOOPS#SCOOPS
:sludgepal:
he knows..
The World tag title match was universally praised. The main event was maybe a little more divisive but I thought it was really good.

oatgan
Jan 15, 2009

mariooncrack posted:

https://twitter.com/narukiroy/status/802774820320444416

Is there anywhere to get the replay of this show?

Should be up on the puro archive soon if it isn't alreadt

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

oatgan posted:

Should be up on the puro archive soon if it isn't alreadt

https://twitter.com/mortenvh/status/802965753960038402

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

Giant Baba was so freaked out by two dudes kissing he never lifted a weight again. Did he have a hand in Mike Pence's training?

Spermgod
Jan 8, 2012

pink wasn't even a thing why is t#RXT REVOLUTION~!
and i'm so fucking excited for #SCOOPS#SCOOPS#SCOOPS #SCOOPS#SCOOPS #SCOOPS#SCOOPS
:sludgepal:
he knows..
Full show is up now https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B5rK95X3mRiiVk43cTcyaG1SQUk

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
Whatever happened to Taiyo Kea?

Asteroid Alert
Oct 24, 2012

BINGO!

El Gallinero Gros posted:

Whatever happened to Taiyo Kea?

He returned to Hawaii, wrestled in Wrestle-1 as a freelancer, returned back to All Japan and now appears sporadically for Akebonos promotion.

Thauros
Jan 29, 2003

DDT has a big show at the larger Osaka arena that's bring broadcast near live tomorrow at 6:00 AM EST/11:00 AM GMT courtesy of mortenvh at http://www.psp-tv.com/r/PoD


DDT “OSAKA OCTOPUS 2016 ~IT’S NANIWABUSHI WRESTLING~”, 04/12/2016
Osaka Edion Arena #1

0. King Of Dark Title: Nobuhiro Shimatani (c), Mizuki Watase & Rekka Vs Kouki Iwasaki, Guanchulo & Daiki Shimomura
1. Naomi Yoshimura Debut Match: Keisuke Ishii, Akito & Yuki Ueno Vs KUDO, Soma Takao & Naomi Yoshimura
2. Naniwa Woman Saga: Saki Akai & Lady Beard Vs Aja Kong & LiLiCo
3. Iron Man Heavymetalweight Title – Battle Royal: Masahiro Takanashi (c) Vs Toru Owashi Vs Kazuki Hirata Vs Mad Paulie Vs Kuishinbo Kamen Vs Kikutaro Vs Dai Suzuki Vs Shoichi Uchida Vs Kenshin Chikano Vs Yoshihiko
4. Elementary School 3rd Grader – Yuni Debut Match: Shigehiro Irie, Yasu Urano & Yuni Vs Makoto Oishi, Shunma Katsumata & MAO
5. Special Tag Match: Masakatsu Funaki & Yukio Sakaguchi Vs Yoshihiro Takayama & Kazusada Higuchi
6. DDT Launch Pre-20th Anniversary Commemoration TLC (Takoyaki, Ladder & Chair) Special 6-Man Tag Match: Sanshiro Takagi, Kota Ibushi & Gota Ihashi Vs Dick Togo, Antonio Honda & Takashi Sasaki
7. DDT Extreme Title – Doyama Hardcore Match: Danshoku Dino (c) Vs Jun Kasai
8. KO-D Tag Team Titles: Daisuke Sasaki & Tetsuya Endo (c) Vs Konosuke Takeshita & Mike Bailey
9. KO-D Openweight Title: Shuji Ishikawa (c) Vs HARASHIMA
(card courtesy of https://dramaticddt.wordpress.com/)

Dramatic DDT has a full preview like usual if you wish to read more up on the matches/stips

Thauros fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Dec 3, 2016

NotQuiteQuentin
Jan 29, 2005

BIG OVER
College Slice

Thauros posted:

DDT has a big show at the larger Osaka arena that's bring broadcast near live tomorrow at 6:00 AM EST/11:00 AM GMT courtesy of mortenvh at http://www.psp-tv.com/r/PoD


DDT “OSAKA OCTOPUS 2016 ~IT’S NANIWABUSHI WRESTLING~”, 04/12/2016
Osaka Edion Arena #1

0. King Of Dark Title: Nobuhiro Shimatani (c), Mizuki Watase & Rekka Vs Kouki Iwasaki, Guanchulo & Daiki Shimomura
1. Naomi Yoshimura Debut Match: Keisuke Ishii, Akito & Yuki Ueno Vs KUDO, Soma Takao & Naomi Yoshimura
2. Naniwa Woman Saga: Saki Akai & Lady Beard Vs Aja Kong & LiLiCo
3. Iron Man Heavymetalweight Title – Battle Royal: Masahiro Takanashi (c) Vs Toru Owashi Vs Kazuki Hirata Vs Mad Paulie Vs Kuishinbo Kamen Vs Kikutaro Vs Dai Suzuki Vs Shoichi Uchida Vs Kenshin Chikano Vs Yoshihiko
4. Elementary School 3rd Grader – Yuni Debut Match: Shigehiro Irie, Yasu Urano & Yuni Vs Makoto Oishi, Shunma Katsumata & MAO
5. Special Tag Match: Masakatsu Funaki & Yukio Sakaguchi Vs Yoshihiro Takayama & Kazusada Higuchi
6. DDT Launch Pre-20th Anniversary Commemoration TLC (Takoyaki, Ladder & Chair) Special 6-Man Tag Match: Sanshiro Takagi, Kota Ibushi & Gota Ihashi Vs Dick Togo, Antonio Honda & Takashi Sasaki
7. DDT Extreme Title – Doyama Hardcore Match: Danshoku Dino (c) Vs Jun Kasai
8. KO-D Tag Team Titles: Daisuke Sasaki & Tetsuya Endo (c) Vs Konosuke Takeshita & Mike Bailey
9. KO-D Openweight Title: Shuji Ishikawa (c) Vs HARASHIMA
(card courtesy of https://dramaticddt.wordpress.com/)

Dramatic DDT has a full preview like usual if you wish to read more up on the matches/stips

do not expect the steiner bros. expecting the steiner bros has become a problem for ddt apparently.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

NotQuiteQuentin posted:

do not expect the steiner bros. expecting the steiner bros has become a problem for ddt apparently.

Huh?

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

quote:

DDT would like to remind its fans that even though there are a lot of foreign wrestlers in Osaka this weekend, none of them are the Steiner Brothers. So don’t come to this show expecting to see the Steiner Brothers. This cannot be stressed enough, it’s a regular problem at these big shows.

Asteroid Alert
Oct 24, 2012

BINGO!
It's a long running gag in the FAQ sections in the information pages of their larger shows. "Will the Steiners appear?" "no" modified to fit the location and the event, this one refering to the NXT show.

Knowing DDT this joke has some really obscure origin.

RealFoxy
May 11, 2011

I'm not making a fucking QCS thread for this but seriously can we take a harder stance on Kiwifarms freaks like this guy, Jesus Christ seriously, you used to be better at knocking these creeps down. I guess ADTRW mods aren't responsible like GBS mods are.

Adaptabullshit posted:

It's a long running gag in the FAQ sections in the information pages of their larger shows. "Will the Steiners appear?" "no" modified to fit the location and the event, this one refering to the NXT show.

Knowing DDT this joke has some really obscure origin.
Waiting for the payoff to be Antonio Steiner and Shanshiro Steiner to get squashed by the actual Steiner Bros in a Shoney's all you can eat death match buffet match

Thauros
Jan 29, 2003

hey this is on and the heavmyetalweight match just begun

Red
Apr 15, 2003

Yeah, great at getting us into Wawa.
I've only ever watched a handful of Genichiro Tenryu matches, but I generally love everything he does.

Are there recommended must-watches for him?

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Red posted:

I've only ever watched a handful of Genichiro Tenryu matches, but I generally love everything he does.

Are there recommended must-watches for him?

Here's a list of his 5 star matches

quote:

5 Star Match (1986) with Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Riki Choshu and Yoshiaki Yatsu on January 28
5 Star Match (1988) with Toshiaki Kawada vs. Stan Hansen and Terry Gordy on December 16
5 Star Match (1989) with Toshiaki Kawada and Samson Fuyuki vs. Jumbo Tsuruta, Yoshiaki Yatsu and Masanobu Fuchi on January 28
5 Star Match (1989) vs. Jumbo Tsuruta on June 5

Tenryu vs Hashimoto from the G-1 in '98 was great. I also remember thinking his match with Mutoh in 2001 was good, that was during Mutoh's big resurgence. Tenryu vs Kawada and Tenryu vs Kojima (2002) are also good.

Here's Tenryu vs Kawada http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4511qt

Here's Tenryu vs Kojima https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwmkQjekn1c

Tenryu vs Hashimoto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtDBnQCTlRY

Also, Tenryu Vs NAITCHA BOY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMBl8kpUvIU

Ditch
Jul 29, 2003

Backdrop Hunger
Yeah those are all really solid choices.

ctrl+f+tenryu on these pages for hours of fun:
http://theditch.biz/chron.html
http://theditch.us/090s.html
http://theditch.us/00-04.html

Tenryu is one of my two favorites ever so here is more (all of these own fyi):

Tenryu & Kitahara vs Koshinaka & Kimura: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?s535s06vu79tk3d

Tenryu & Kawada vs Hansen & Kea: http://www.mediafire.com/?to7w3xkt36g71ri

Tenryu & Fuchi vs Kawada & Araya: http://theditch.us/TenryuFuchiVsKawadaAraya6-30-01.avi

Tenryu & Akiyama vs Kobashi & Baby Shiozaki: http://www.mediafire.com/?aqpc7px47ru2daa

Red
Apr 15, 2003

Yeah, great at getting us into Wawa.

Holy poo poo, I had no idea this even existed. I was only aware of his two WWF deals.

Ditch
Jul 29, 2003

Backdrop Hunger
They had a better match in '92 (which is what Red is referring to): http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?xz4dag854bd48pv

Also, Flair wanted Tenryu brought in for Starrcade (1988 or possibly 1987) because he wanted a really stiff match.

Thauros
Jan 29, 2003

If you're in a mood to watch more 3 AM tag team wrestling after the NJPW Tag Finals, AJPW has a TL show at 2:50 EDT/7:50 GMT being streamed live in http://www.psp-tv.com/r/PoD.


All Japan Pro-Wrestling “2016 Sekai Seikyo Tag League”,
12/11/2016 [Sun] 17:00
EDION Arena Osaka, 2nd Stadium

() Ultimo Dragon & Yohei Nakajima vs. Mitsuya Nagai & Takeshi Minamino
() SUSHI & YO-HEY (DOVE) vs. Billyken Kid (FREE) & TORU (Doutonbori)
() Jake Lee vs. Yutaka Yoshie (FREE)
() Kento Miyahara vs. Koji Iwamoto (Sportiva)
() Suwama & Atsushi Aoki vs. Naoya Nomura & Yuma Aoyagi

() Tag League ~ B BLOCK : Zeus & The Bodyguard vs. Super Tiger & Hikaru Sato
() Tag League ~ B BLOCK : Jun Akiyama & Kendo Kashin vs. Takao Omori & Manabu Soya
card courtesy of puroresuspirit.net

Don't ask me what the the standings are, purolove doesn't have them posted and I ain't pol or stopspot.

Ishin
Dec 31, 2008

~the animatronic spirit of
so many forgotten waves
I will always love Tenryu's angry grandpa mode.

NilkNarf
Apr 24, 2005

...if you're into the blight.
In the time I've been visiting Ditch's archives, I don't think I've seen a Tenryu match I didn't like. I especially liked that tag match he and Jumbo had against Ted DiBiase and Stan Hansen (All Japan, 12-12-86). Really, I don't think the guy has ever lacked in chemistry with any opponent or partner he's ever had.

Ditch
Jul 29, 2003

Backdrop Hunger
When you think about great tag wrestlers, your mind goes to midcard 'tag division' Ricky Morton types. In contrast, Tenryu reliably made tag matches feel like legit main events in a way that is almost unthinkable in the US, and very much in a "throw random guys in there with him, it'll work" dynamic at times. Tenryu with three headliners? Epic (Jumbo/Tenryu vs Choshu/Yatsu; Tenryu/Hara vs Jumbo/Yatsu). Tenryu as backup to an outmatched midcarder? Epic (Hansen/Gordy vs Tenryu/Kawada). Tenryu and a lesser partner against a headliner and a midcarder or young lion? Even his smaller show tags could blow the roof off (see a couple of the ones I posted). And it's like, hey here's the 75th best tag match Tenryu was in and it's good enough to be most guys' top 10 if not top 5. Such an insanely huge catalog of great bouts, most of which are still criminally overlooked.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
When I first started reading about and watching Puro, Tenryu seemed to be a guy everyone liked a lot, yet he always seemed to get brought up less than people like Misawa, Kawada, and Kobashi. Maybe because his prime wasn't coinciding with the internet developing Puro discussion communities. Maybe because in the 90's people focused less on smaller Japanese companies. Not sure, but it's kinda unfortunate.

Asteroid Alert
Oct 24, 2012

BINGO!

El Gallinero Gros posted:

When I first started reading about and watching Puro, Tenryu seemed to be a guy everyone liked a lot, yet he always seemed to get brought up less than people like Misawa, Kawada, and Kobashi. Maybe because his prime wasn't coinciding with the internet developing Puro discussion communities. Maybe because in the 90's people focused less on smaller Japanese companies. Not sure, but it's kinda unfortunate.

Tenryu did have this special guest star role in the 90s after SWS collapsed and he started WAR. He did do a couple of good runs in NJPW (which was outshadowed by 90s AJPW, I assume) and also helped UWFi make a little money before folding.

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Ditch
Jul 29, 2003

Backdrop Hunger
1. Misawa/Kawada/Kobashi all vastly more athletic, and their best matches had more impressive highlights while also being world-class from a technical standpoint. Highspots were one of the big draws of puro when the alternative was late '90s WCW/WWF, so they caught on quick as the bootlegs became widespread.

2. Tenryu's athletic prime was in the '80s.

3. Tenryu's greatest hits are dispersed across more promotions and more decades, making his career very hard to follow.

4. Tenryu's matches tend not to be especially deep, complex, or technical.

So the consensus of Tenryu being below them is really to be expected.

It took me years of hunting for puro hidden gems before I came to fully appreciate Tenryu's career. My main goal isn't to have people prefer him to anyone in particular, but rather to have them watch the hidden gems because they're great in a way that's somewhat unique, and give Tenryu the love he deserves. The best analog I can think of is Ishii, whose fire and stiffness make him so consistent and able to pull great performances out of his opponents. Then have Ishii still doing this in like 2033.

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